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mike maghakian March 7th 04 06:13 AM

idiots
 
I can't believe the number of idiots in this group. Me included for trying
to help the people here.



Michael Bryant March 7th 04 06:44 AM

From: "mike maghakian"

I can't believe the number of idiots in this group. Me included for trying
to help the people here.


Do you have a specific act of idiocy that has resulted in this blanket
indictment?



Dxluver March 7th 04 09:37 AM

I can't believe the number of idiots in this group. Me included for trying
to help the people here.


Even though I don't know *exactly* what post or incident you're talking about.
I do agree with you....lol.

That's when you just ignore them like I do. Of course, if you choose. Great
info and page you have there Mike (I'm talking about the DX394.)

Some people just don't get it. That's a super little receiver when modded out.
Everyone talks about modding out their R75's and that's OK....lol.

Like I told you before, I'll be getting with you on that 394 here shortly,
between you and Tom actually. ;-)

N8KDV March 7th 04 12:42 PM



mike maghakian wrote:

I can't believe the number of idiots in this group. Me included for trying
to help the people here.


Yes, I suppose I'm an idiot for pointing out that you hadn't made an exciting
discovery, and that there was no mystery.

Guilty as charged.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



T. Early March 7th 04 04:36 PM


"mike maghakian" wrote in message
...
I can't believe the number of idiots in this group. Me included for

trying
to help the people here.

Well, I don't know about you, but I enjoy being an idiot in front of
total strangers. It's very stressful masking my idiocy day-in day-out
from people I know, and it's nice to have an outlet.



Jerry G. March 7th 04 06:16 PM

Dear Mike,

I'm glad you mentioned this first!

Maybe most of us are idiots, but what the hell...! These groups have been
most helpful to many people. Infact, there are many users (possibly idiots)
that frequent these groups who have degrees in everything from medicine to
engineering. But, there are idiots in every field.

So, I guess you're and idiot, me included, and all the others who come here
to figure-chat over a screen and keyboard (in a sort of way) with others in
almost every location in the world.

I hope we all learned something here...

--

Greetings,

Jerry Greenberg
===========


"mike maghakian" wrote in message
...
I can't believe the number of idiots in this group. Me included for trying
to help the people here.




Corbin Ray March 7th 04 07:43 PM

It's refreshing to find idiots who stay home and make posts from their
computers.

Most of the idiots I encounter seem to enjoy driving on the streets and
roads around me. The incredibly slow ones always seem to end up in front of
me, and the outrageously fast ones always seem to end up behind me.



Robert Beck March 8th 04 02:28 AM

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:13:18 -0800, "mike maghakian"
wrote:

I can't believe the number of idiots in this group. Me included for trying
to help the people here.


I like the ones who expect a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1500.00
radio and get mad when they find out that it does not.

John March 8th 04 02:36 AM

I don't know: I've seen the degen 1102 in action against a number of high
class radios and the 1102 could sure as hell hold up just as well as the
other $$$ ones.
-John
I like the ones who expect a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1500.00
radio and get mad when they find out that it does not.




Diverd4777 March 8th 04 03:17 AM

In article , "John"
writes:


I don't know: I've seen the degen 1102 in action against a number of high
class radios and the 1102 could sure as hell hold up just as well as the
other $$$ ones.
-John


- Quite true...

_ Still waiting to see what Sangean is coming out with..


GrtPmpkin32 March 8th 04 03:24 AM

I like the ones who expect a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1500.00
radio and get mad when they find out that it does not.


I don't know: I've seen the degen 1102 in action against a number of high
class radios and the 1102 could sure as hell hold up just as well as the
other $$$ ones


Perhaps some people expect such high-dollar performance from low-cost radios
because other people make claims like John's (not that he's 'wrong', it's his
opinion)... but I'd safely say that a Degen or Kaito 1102 radio would not
satisfy me nearly as fully as the Drake R8B did, or the Icom R75 does, and
while a lot of that qualification would necessarily be based on my listening
needs as opposed to someone else's, there's a basic feature and design gap as
well as price gap (which is why there's a price gap at all).
Now, I'm not at all saying that cheap radios equal cheap performance
*automatically* (most of us can testify to that based on our own experiences)
but a lower-priced radio that was not designed with features, filtering and
stability as a higher-priced radio will necessarily be different, and likely
inferior overall, to the higher priced radio.
But it's all relative.
It's just that sometimes, a person will read a claim of "this cheaper radio
works just as well as (big-rig-model-here) works" and accept it at face value,
not considering the many factors which would cause such a claim from one
reviewer or user.
I do have to say that it's neat to see the number of cheaper radios available
now which offer some surprisingly good listening for the buck. But many of
these models have limitations (naturally) that mid-to-higher-priced radios
don't have. The gap is narrowing, to be sure, but we're still a long way off
from a pocket radio acting like a Watkins-Johnson.
Linus

John March 8th 04 04:10 AM

yes..this is also true, I'm just saying from what I saw...the degen 1102 was
a fairly nice radio for its price.
all valid points though
-John
Perhaps some people expect such high-dollar performance from low-cost

radios
because other people make claims like John's (not that he's 'wrong', it's

his
opinion)... but I'd safely say that a Degen or Kaito 1102 radio would not
satisfy me nearly as fully as the Drake R8B did, or the Icom R75 does, and
while a lot of that qualification would necessarily be based on my

listening
needs as opposed to someone else's, there's a basic feature and design gap

as
well as price gap (which is why there's a price gap at all).
Now, I'm not at all saying that cheap radios equal cheap performance
*automatically* (most of us can testify to that based on our own

experiences)
but a lower-priced radio that was not designed with features, filtering

and
stability as a higher-priced radio will necessarily be different, and

likely
inferior overall, to the higher priced radio.
But it's all relative.
It's just that sometimes, a person will read a claim of "this cheaper

radio
works just as well as (big-rig-model-here) works" and accept it at face

value,
not considering the many factors which would cause such a claim from one
reviewer or user.
I do have to say that it's neat to see the number of cheaper radios

available
now which offer some surprisingly good listening for the buck. But many of
these models have limitations (naturally) that mid-to-higher-priced radios
don't have. The gap is narrowing, to be sure, but we're still a long way

off
from a pocket radio acting like a Watkins-Johnson.
Linus




Brian Denley March 8th 04 04:12 AM

GrtPmpkin32 wrote:
I like the ones who expect a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1500.00
radio and get mad when they find out that it does not.


but we're still a long way off from a pocket radio acting like
a Watkins-Johnson.
Linus


Linus:
Hell we're still a long way off from a pocket radio acting like a Sony 2010.
--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



Waterperson77 March 8th 04 05:48 AM

Most of the idiots I encounter seem to enjoy driving on the streets and
roads around me. The incredibly slow ones always seem to end up in front of
me, and the outrageously fast ones always seem to end up behind me.


I think I got you beat on that one. There were a few idiots here in one car who
would get behind me and speed up super-fast , so that I had to speed up to
avoid a wreck, and then they would pass me and pull in front of me and go
super-slow so that I had to pass them to avoid a wreck, and then they would
speed up super-fast behind me, then super slow in front of me (on the freeway).



Waterperson77 March 8th 04 05:51 AM

I like the ones who expect a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1500.00
radio and get mad when they find out that it does not.


Well, that's probably close to me.

I never expect ed a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1,500 radio, but I did
expect the $500.00 I spent for an IC-R3 to perform like a $500.00 radio.

which as I found out I was an idiot for expecting that.



Dxluver March 8th 04 09:01 AM

but I'd safely say that a Degen or Kaito 1102 radio would not
satisfy me nearly as fully as the Drake R8B did, or the Icom R75 does,


Shoot, I KNOW (just by looking at the specs) it wouldn't hear what I already
have here (receiver wise)...so why buy.

I already have my little ones. DX399 /Bell&Howell / OMG transistor radio that
is *very* tiny. Those are just the 'little' ones.

Hey, if they want to spend the money and like it, fine. I'd rather have a
good Hammarlund or another tube radio myself.

Dxluver March 8th 04 09:16 AM

It's just that sometimes, a person will read a claim of "this cheaper radio
works just as well as (big-rig-model-here) works" and accept it at face
value,
not considering the many factors which would cause such a claim from one
reviewer or user.


I agree. The only 'cheap' radio (money wise) and I have no idea why they are
cheap that I own is my GE P780 that Brenda Ann sent me. Maybe because there is
no wal wart and it is strictly BCB and it just has two screws on the back, one
for the external wire and the ground. It takes six (I think) D cell batteries.

But for basically $48-50 and that includes shipping, you can have one of..if
not the best made (like a tank) BCB radios. I liked and was so impressed with
my first one that I'm getting a second.

Put it this way, so far, no loop has really improved a signal on it yet and
it'd be the perfect radio if all he** broke loose, nuclear or whatnot to have
with you. Plus you could actually use it for self defense, you hit someone
with it and it's all over. Then you can listen about it on the radio. ;-)

But that's my 'cheapie story'.....and I feel extremely fortunate to have two of
them. If any of you are into BCB dxing and can get one in here or on ebay, do
yourself a favor and grab it, you won't be dissapointed.
**no FM or TV or shortwave, just BCB**

Jim Hackett March 8th 04 02:56 PM

I feel for ya. I know someone who has one :(
"Waterperson77" wrote in message
...
I like the ones who expect a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1500.00
radio and get mad when they find out that it does not.


Well, that's probably close to me.

I never expect ed a $50.00 radio to perform like a $1,500 radio, but I

did
expect the $500.00 I spent for an IC-R3 to perform like a $500.00 radio.

which as I found out I was an idiot for expecting that.





longwave March 8th 04 10:18 PM

Waterperson77 wrote:

Most of the idiots I encounter seem to enjoy driving on the streets and
roads around me. The incredibly slow ones always seem to end up in front of
me, and the outrageously fast ones always seem to end up behind me.


I think I got you beat on that one. There were a few idiots here in one car who
would get behind me and speed up super-fast , so that I had to speed up to
avoid a wreck, and then they would pass me and pull in front of me and go
super-slow so that I had to pass them to avoid a wreck, and then they would
speed up super-fast behind me, then super slow in front of me (on the freeway).


After experiencing several events like that, I now carry a camcorder in
the car. I also have a bumper sticker on the rear window which reads,
"Smile for the camera".


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