Serious Grundig FR200 Problem
 

Saturday, sunshine finally returned to SE Texas, so I thought I'd eat lunch, a
couple of mini pizzas and beer, while sitting on my porch and surfing SW on the
FR200 I'd recently bought "just because."

The upper band seemed open because, among other things, I heard 20 MHz WWV for
the first time in a long time. But I heard it in more than one place. Checking
further, I heard all the other readable stations in two places, 910 kHz apart.
(Before that, I thought the multiple broadcasts were simulcasts on different
frequencies.) So the high end wasn't that hot. Oh, and I heard 15 and 10 MHz
WWV stations in two places, too.

But a bad image problem in inexpensive radios is something I thought went away
with modern circuitry. It has excessive backlash in the tuning, too. I am
really disappointed in the receiver. I'd like to see a jWIN with the FR200's
features. The upside is that I could pick the signal that wasn't being
interfered with. G

Bill, K5BY

It sounds like a single conversion receiver, that has a 455kHz I.F. You are
hearing the opposite sideband response from the mixer.

Pete

"WShoots1" wrote in message
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Saturday, sunshine finally returned to SE Texas, so I thought I'd eat
lunch, a
couple of mini pizzas and beer, while sitting on my porch and surfing SW
on the
FR200 I'd recently bought "just because."

The upper band seemed open because, among other things, I heard 20 MHz WWV
for
the first time in a long time. But I heard it in more than one place.
Checking
further, I heard all the other readable stations in two places, 910 kHz
apart.
(Before that, I thought the multiple broadcasts were simulcasts on
different
frequencies.) So the high end wasn't that hot. Oh, and I heard 15 and 10
MHz
WWV stations in two places, too.

But a bad image problem in inexpensive radios is something I thought went
away
with modern circuitry. It has excessive backlash in the tuning, too. I am
really disappointed in the receiver. I'd like to see a jWIN with the
FR200's
features. The upside is that I could pick the signal that wasn't being
interfered with. G

Bill, K5BY

Bill:

This is the downside to inexpensive receivers;
You hear " everything " all over the dial.

The Jwin JX - m-14 I bought for $15 has the same problem;
local AM stations show up all over the dial.

BUT the Double reduction Sangean 606A does not have these problems.

Walking around with the Jwin in the A.M. I can pick up Radio Australia
and Radio Canada. Works for me.

The FR-200 Is probably a good set to have in an emergency. You won't have to
tune too far to hear whatever local station is broadcasting.

During the NE Blackout last summer, Whilst driving back from Midtown Manhattan,
sans stoplights ( Used to be a Cab Driver, no worries )

I could pick up all sorts of stuff on a single reduction set. Local stations
had kicked into Generator backup, BBC sailed in from Ascension & Antigua,
All with news that we had no electricity.

- So you all ready have the radio.

Suggest stocking up on Wine, Beer & candles

Dan





In article ,
(WShoots1) writes:


Saturday, sunshine finally returned to SE Texas, so I thought I'd eat lunch,
a
couple of mini pizzas and beer, while sitting on my porch and surfing SW on
the
FR200 I'd recently bought "just because."

The upper band seemed open because, among other things, I heard 20 MHz WWV
for
the first time in a long time. But I heard it in more than one place.
Checking
further, I heard all the other readable stations in two places, 910 kHz
apart.
(Before that, I thought the multiple broadcasts were simulcasts on different
frequencies.) So the high end wasn't that hot. Oh, and I heard 15 and 10 MHz
WWV stations in two places, too.

But a bad image problem in inexpensive radios is something I thought went
away
with modern circuitry. It has excessive backlash in the tuning, too. I am
really disappointed in the receiver. I'd like to see a jWIN with the FR200's
features. The upside is that I could pick the signal that wasn't being
interfered with. G

Bill, K5BY

Funny you mention this. The other day my VR-5000 was picking up WWV about
every 100 khz over a spread of about 10mhz. I freaked cause it is fairly
new. My R-75 wasn't doing it. I turned it off and back on again then it
was fine! Sorry, I realize this is of NO help to you. I just had to
mention the similarity...


"WShoots1" wrote in message
...
Saturday, sunshine finally returned to SE Texas, so I thought I'd eat
lunch, a
couple of mini pizzas and beer, while sitting on my porch and surfing SW
on the
FR200 I'd recently bought "just because."

The upper band seemed open because, among other things, I heard 20 MHz WWV
for
the first time in a long time. But I heard it in more than one place.
Checking
further, I heard all the other readable stations in two places, 910 kHz
apart.
(Before that, I thought the multiple broadcasts were simulcasts on
different
frequencies.) So the high end wasn't that hot. Oh, and I heard 15 and 10
MHz
WWV stations in two places, too.

But a bad image problem in inexpensive radios is something I thought went
away
with modern circuitry. It has excessive backlash in the tuning, too. I am
really disappointed in the receiver. I'd like to see a jWIN with the
FR200's
features. The upside is that I could pick the signal that wasn't being
interfered with. G

Bill, K5BY

Look on the bottom. See where it says "Made in China"? Grundigs are
made in GERMANY, not Asia......



On 08 Mar 2004 05:26:54 GMT, (WShoots1) wrote:

Saturday, sunshine finally returned to SE Texas, so I thought I'd eat lunch, a
couple of mini pizzas and beer, while sitting on my porch and surfing SW on the
FR200 I'd recently bought "just because."

The upper band seemed open because, among other things, I heard 20 MHz WWV for
the first time in a long time. But I heard it in more than one place. Checking
further, I heard all the other readable stations in two places, 910 kHz apart.
(Before that, I thought the multiple broadcasts were simulcasts on different
frequencies.) So the high end wasn't that hot. Oh, and I heard 15 and 10 MHz
WWV stations in two places, too.

But a bad image problem in inexpensive radios is something I thought went away
with modern circuitry. It has excessive backlash in the tuning, too. I am
really disappointed in the receiver. I'd like to see a jWIN with the FR200's
features. The upside is that I could pick the signal that wasn't being
interfered with. G

Bill, K5BY


Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

Larry W4CSC wrote:

Look on the bottom. See where it says "Made in China"? Grundigs are
made in GERMANY, not Asia......

Are you certain about that? I don't think Grundig has manufactured any radios in
Germany for some time now.

The FR200 may be badged Grundig, but it is indeed made by Eton in Asia.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

"N8KDV" wrote in message
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Larry W4CSC wrote:

Look on the bottom. See where it says "Made in China"? Grundigs are
made in GERMANY, not Asia......

Are you certain about that? I don't think Grundig has manufactured any
radios in
Germany for some time now.


Even as far back as the Sat 600, they were made primarily in Portugal..

Brenda Ann wrote:

"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Larry W4CSC wrote:

Look on the bottom. See where it says "Made in China"? Grundigs are
made in GERMANY, not Asia......

Are you certain about that? I don't think Grundig has manufactured any
radios in
Germany for some time now.


Even as far back as the Sat 600, they were made primarily in Portugal..

That's what I thought.

W4CSC & N8KDV,

IN-FACT: The Tecsun GREEN 88 "Emergency" Radio was 'originally'
"Designed" and "Manufactured" by Tecsun GEM in China (PRC).
G88E= http://www.tecsun.com.cn/product/green-88/green-88.htm

The "Grundig FR200 AM/FM/SW Emergency Radio" that is Sold
in the USA and Canada by Grundig North America (ETON Corp.)
is a 're-badged' Tecsun GREEN 88 "Emergency" Radio.
OVERVIEW= http://tinyurl.com/yrh8t
http://www.grundigradio.com/asp/Prod...ction=overview

Specifications for the "Grundig FR200 AM/FM/SW Emergency Radio".
SPECS= http://tinyurl.com/2fnse
http://etoncorp.com/asp/productspecs...ctnam e=fr200

Owner's Manual for the "Grundig FR200 AM/FM/SW Emergency Radio".
MANUAL= http://tinyurl.com/ywa7w
http://etoncorp.com/asp/productowner... uctname=fr200

"FAQs" for the "Grundig FR200 AM/FM/SW Emergency Radio".
FAQ= http://tinyurl.com/ywwqn
http://etoncorp.com/asp/products.asp...ductname=fr200

NEWS ITEM: Eton's Grundig FR200 Receives "Good Housekeeping's"
GOOD BUY Award the Grundig FR200 provides access to information
and light when its needed most.
GoTo= http://www.grundigradio.com/asp/december4.asp

eHAM "Review" of the Grundig FR200 / Tecsun Green 88
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2573

FWIW: Tecsun has a 'newer' GREEN (Environmentally Friendly) Radio;
the Tecsun Green 138 has many good features and full coverage
from 3.2 MHz to 22 MHz.
Note - NO Gap between 7.6-9.2 MHz as with the Green 88.
http://www.tecsun.com.cn/product/138/138-1.htm

The Tecsun GREEN 138 has a Slightly 'smaller' Vertical Format.
Note - More Portable at 88% of the Size and Weight of the Green 88.
The 'style' of this Tecsun Green 138 Emergency Radio sort of looks
like one of the old GE Portable Radio Models 7-2810G (AM & FM),
P-975A/B P977B (AM & FM) , GE Globestar 10 (AM & SW) from the
1960s and 1970s.


jm2cw ~ RHF
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N8KDV wrote in message ...
Larry W4CSC wrote:

Look on the bottom. See where it says "Made in China"? Grundigs are
made in GERMANY, not Asia......

Are you certain about that? I don't think Grundig has manufactured any radios in
Germany for some time now.

The FR200 may be badged Grundig, but it is indeed made by Eton in Asia.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

All of my other radios were made in China and not even the $9.99 B&H has an
image problem.

I'd take it back to Shack where I got it, but they wouldn't understand what I
was talking about. A guy at RS HQ in Fort Worth used to be responsive, but only
about stuff that were made directly for Shack.

Oh well... It should come in handy during an emergency, i.e., when the
commercial mains are off and I'm out of AA's.

I guess I'll go back to the B&H for SW band surfing.

Bill, K5BY

The Chinese crap with Grundig's name on them are no more a Grundig
radio than the Japanese crap with Hammond's name on them are Hammond
Organs.

Hammond Organs have tubes and tone wheels powered by Tesla's
synchronous motors....(c;



On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 03:26:01 -0500, N8KDV
wrote:



Larry W4CSC wrote:

Look on the bottom. See where it says "Made in China"? Grundigs are
made in GERMANY, not Asia......

Are you certain about that? I don't think Grundig has manufactured any radios in
Germany for some time now.

The FR200 may be badged Grundig, but it is indeed made by Eton in Asia.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm




Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

The Chinese crap with Grundig's name on them are no more a Grundig
radio than the Japanese crap with Hammond's name on them are Hammond
Organs.

Yes, when I bought a Grundig Yacht Boy 400PE in the fall, I thought it was the
good old German radio company. I was in for quite a surprise when I opened
it.

Linda
Pennsylvania

On 11 Mar 2004 16:22:47 GMT, (Love2camp5) wrote:

The Chinese crap with Grundig's name on them are no more a Grundig
radio than the Japanese crap with Hammond's name on them are Hammond
Organs.

Yes, when I bought a Grundig Yacht Boy 400PE in the fall, I thought it was the
good old German radio company. I was in for quite a surprise when I opened
it.

Linda
Pennsylvania

Your first clue it wasn't a Grundig was when you lifted it. You could
easily pick it up with ONE hand. Even Grundig portables were
TWO-handed devices....(c;



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

CSC: Hammond Organs have tubes and tone wheels powered by Tesla's
synchronous motors....(c;

LOL Yep! Real Hammond organs are unique instruments, not synthesizers of other
instruments' sounds. Here's a neat site for Hammond organ lovers:

http://theatreorgans.com/

Then click on the upper right link.

73,
Bill, K5BY

Last European Grundig was assembled in Portugal-
Satellit 700 until around 1995 .
Grundig (Germany) was owned by Philips for a few years and they lost an
arm and a leg -very big and costly mistake.
Grundig (Germany) is still around last I heard, making broadcasting
equipment for studios. How sad...

AP,

READ: Grundig AG (Germany) SOLD TO ALBA (UK) & BEKO (TR)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundi...os/message/287

fyi ~ RHF
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= = = (Arthur Pozner) wrote in message
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Last European Grundig was assembled in Portugal-
Satellit 700 until around 1995 .
Grundig (Germany) was owned by Philips for a few years and they lost an
arm and a leg -very big and costly mistake.
Grundig (Germany) is still around last I heard, making broadcasting
equipment for studios. How sad...

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