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Sanjaya March 11th 04 01:05 AM

antenna mini plug
 
I want to connect a length of 22 AWG hookup wire
to my radio's antenna-in jack which takes a 1/8th in. mini-plug.
I can get the wire at Radio Shack, and the plug too,
but am confused about what to buy.
I'm guessing what I want is called a mono 2 conductor.
Solderless?
Not sure though.






Howard March 11th 04 03:56 AM

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:05:19 GMT, "Sanjaya"
wrote:

I want to connect a length of 22 AWG hookup wire
to my radio's antenna-in jack which takes a 1/8th in. mini-plug.
I can get the wire at Radio Shack, and the plug too,
but am confused about what to buy.
I'm guessing what I want is called a mono 2 conductor.
Solderless?
Not sure though.




Sounds like you might not have, or have ready access to, a soldering
iron. If that's the case then definitely go solderless, though the
only one RatShack has is "gold plated for better signal transfer" -
but the extra buck or so is less $$ than buying an iron & solder if
this this is the only use you would need it for. Also recommend you
use the stranded hookup wire - you'll find it easier to work with.

Gray Shockley March 11th 04 05:22 AM

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:05:19 -0600, Sanjaya wrote
(in message k.net):

I want to connect a length of 22 AWG hookup wire
to my radio's antenna-in jack which takes a 1/8th in. mini-plug.
I can get the wire at Radio Shack, and the plug too,
but am confused about what to buy.
I'm guessing what I want is called a mono 2 conductor.
Solderless?
Not sure though.



What radio?

A couple of the Sangeans take a stereo (3-conductor) plug (if you want to
preserve MW(am) reception).

/gray/


Sanjaya March 11th 04 10:06 AM

"Gray Shockley" wrote...
What radio?

A couple of the Sangeans take a stereo (3-conductor) plug (if you want to
preserve MW(am) reception).

/gray/


Degen DE1102 and yet to be purchased Tecsun PL-550.




Sanjaya March 11th 04 10:08 AM


"Howard" wrote...
Sounds like you might not have, or have ready access to, a soldering
iron. If that's the case then definitely go solderless, though the
only one RatShack has is "gold plated for better signal transfer" -
but the extra buck or so is less $$ than buying an iron & solder if
this this is the only use you would need it for. Also recommend you
use the stranded hookup wire - you'll find it easier to work with.


Correct... I'd like to do this without purchasing the iron and solder.
Thanks Howard.



RHF March 11th 04 10:54 AM

SANJAYA,

"Not sure though." Neither Am I :o)

Maybe first you should tell us what radio you are talking about.

Some radios use a 1/8" Mono-Jack for the External Antenna Input.

Some radios use a 1/8" Stereo-Jack for the External Antenna Input.

Still other radios have HI-Z Terminals and LO-Z Connectors.

SO - What is the Brand Name of your Radio ?

SO - What is the Model Number of your Radio ?


ABOUT SIMPLE RANDOM WIRE ANTENNAS and 'portable' Shortwave Radios:

INDOORS - If you are simply trying to use a 'short'
20Ft-30Ft InDoor 'extension' as a "Random Wire Antenna":
It is best to connect the Wire directly to the Radio's
Whip Antenna.
TIP: Usually I collapse the Whip Antenna and Connect
the Wire using an Alligator Clip to the Swivel Base of
the Whip Antenna, or the Protruding Tip of the Whip Antenna.

OUTSIDE - If you are trying to use an External Random Wire
Antenna that is located OutSide and is about 25Ft-45Ft.
Then it is better to use the External Antenna Jack of
the Radio with the appropriate connector to 'connect'
to the Radio's Jack or Terminal.
NOTE: If the Outside Random Wire Antenna is longer then
about 45Ft and over 15Ft in the Air; then an outside
Grounding Point is highly recommended for Safety.

PWA - The Third Option is "Portable Wire Antenna" (PWA)
that was created and written about by Tom Sevart [N2UHC].
READ - Three Ways to Use the "Portable Wire Antenna" (PWA)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/306

REMEMBER: "The Shortwave Antenna is 55.5% of the . . .
Radio/Receiver and Antenna/Ground Reception Equation"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/288
A Shortwave Antenna is "Equally" Important for Good Reception [.]


iane ~ RHF
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/502
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night...
You Can Hear Forever and Beyond - The Beyond !
..
..
= = = "Sanjaya" wrote in message
= = = thlink.net...

I want to connect a length of 22 AWG hookup wire to my
radio's antenna-in jack which takes a 1/8th in. mini-plug.

I can get the wire at Radio Shack, and the plug too,
but am confused about what to buy.

I'm guessing what I want is called a mono 2 conductor.
Solderless?

Not sure though.

..

Sanjaya March 11th 04 11:15 AM

"RHF" wrote...

[snippage]
SO - What is the Brand Name of your Radio ?

SO - What is the Model Number of your Radio ?


Degen DE1102 and Tecsun PL-550
I want to use the Portable Shortwave Antenna
idea http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc/portablewire.html
and modify it the way you described in a reply you made
my post "Antenna Wire" in February.

On Feb. 15th RHF wrote...

1. For "PWA" Antenna try using
RadioShack Catalog # 278-1218
UL Recognized Hookup Wire Ninety Foot (90Ft)
Spool of Stranded 22 AWG Insulated Wire.

2. Measure the Maximum Diameter of your radio's Whip Antenna.
Most Pet Stores sell clear Plastic Tubing in short 2.5Ft to 4Ft
lengths. Buy a piece that is 1/8" -1/4" larger Inside Diameter
then the Whip Antenna. Cut this to the "Length" of the Top of your
Radio or the "Length" of One to Two Sections of the Whip Antenna.

3. READ: Three Ways to Use the "Portable Wire Antenna" (PWA)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...na/message/306

NOTE: To use this as both an AM/MW Ferrite Rod Coupling Coil;
and a Shortwave and FM Whip Antenna Coupling Coil. Leave a One
Foot Tag Line 'short piece' of Wire for a direct Ground or
Radio Connection. Then start at one end with 10-15 Turns of wire
(about a One Inch long area) that is wrapped close and tight
'Side-by-Side' followed by 15-25 turns that are Spaced about
1/4" to 1/2" apart over the remaining Length of the Plastic Tubing.


iane ~ RHF




Eddie Thomas March 11th 04 02:26 PM

Hi, if its a sangean model or similar it would take a 1/8" stereo mini plug
instead of the mono plug. This is because of the way that the internal am
loopstick is wired to the jack. for details go to:
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze20h45/r...n/909tech.html


"Sanjaya" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I want to connect a length of 22 AWG hookup wire
to my radio's antenna-in jack which takes a 1/8th in. mini-plug.
I can get the wire at Radio Shack, and the plug too,
but am confused about what to buy.
I'm guessing what I want is called a mono 2 conductor.
Solderless?
Not sure though.








Love2camp5 March 11th 04 04:11 PM

3. READ: Three Ways to Use the "Portable Wire Antenna" (PWA)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...na/message/306


I thought that message article might be interesting, but I cannot find it. Am
I doing something wrong???

Thanks,
Linda

Sanjaya March 11th 04 09:28 PM


"Eddie Thomas" wrote in message news:CG_3c.4217$bP2.38971@attbi_s53...
Hi, if its a sangean model or similar it would take a 1/8" stereo mini plug
instead of the mono plug. This is because of the way that the internal am
loopstick is wired to the jack. for details go to:
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze20h45/r...n/909tech.html


Thanks Eddie.
It's a Degen DE1102 radio with mono connection to the antenna jack.
I'm going to use the antenna with that and with a Tecsun PL-550 if
and when I get that radio too. I can buy stereo plug also if the
Tecsun requires it, since I'm looking at the solderless mono plug
for the antenna coupled to the Degen.




RHF March 11th 04 11:47 PM

= = = (Love2camp5) wrote in message
= = = ...

3. READ: Three Ways to Use the "Portable Wire Antenna" (PWA)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...na/message/306

I thought that message article might be interesting,
but I cannot find it. Am I doing something wrong ? ? ?

Thanks,
Linda



LINDA,

The revised Link/URL is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/306

hth ~ RHF

..

WShoots1 March 12th 04 06:25 AM

I was wondering why the ring had to be grounded in a stereo plug when the shell
of a mono plug would do the same thing. From that site is a real answer:

How do I disable the internal MW antenna?

Using a 1/8" stereo connector, ground the ring terminal to the sleeve. Or
else use a 1/8" mono connector. The FAQ author much prefers the former method
as this can be controlled by a SPST switch to disable and reenable the internal
antenna, thus saving the antenna jack inside the radio from wear.

The external antenna jumper that came with my DX-392 has a mono plug. I can't
use the MW loop inside my metal mobilehome. So the plug just stays plugged in.

Bill, K5BY

Dxluver March 12th 04 09:31 AM

TIP: Usually I collapse the Whip Antenna and Connect
the Wire using an Alligator Clip to the Swivel Base of
the Whip Antenna, or the Protruding Tip of the Whip Antenna.


Hmmm, never thought about the swivel base. I usually use the far end tip,
seems like though the base would be sturdier and better. I'll give it a try
and see.

Sanjaya March 12th 04 09:52 AM

"RHF" wrote...
SANJAYA,

So what do the Degen DE1102 and Tecsun PL-550 use for their
External Antenna Input:
Mono 1/8" Jack ?
Stereo 1/8" Jack ?


Except for the Sangean ATS-909 which is by 'design' Capable of
using a larger/longer (over 35 Feet) outside External Antennas.


FWIW: In general most 'portable' Shortwave Radios function at
their best with a medium length outside External Antenna that is
about 30-35 Long.


IMHO: The Portable Wire Antenna (PWA) is the better choice for
most 'portable' Shortwave Radios; especially when the outside
External Antenna is over 70 Feet long.


READ - "More On - Building the 'Portable Wire Antenna' (PWA)"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/826
.
.
REMEMBER: "The AM/MW and Shortwave Antenna is 55.5% . . .
of the Radio/Receiver and Antenna/Ground Reception Equation"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/288
A Shortwave Antenna is "Equally" Important for Good Reception [.]



Hi RHF.

The Degen DE1102 has a mono 1/8 inch input.

I don't have the PL-550 yet, I might get one...
so I don't know it's input, or if it's designed for long
external antennas. It does have an antenna attenuator
knob though.

I'm guessing the DE1102 is not, by design, capable of using
a longer than 35 foot external antenna.
I'm going to make the PWA and was going to make it over 35 feet...
the perimeter of my listening room 48 ft + the windings on the tube...
50 feet approximately, plus another foot of wire for the mono
plug to connect to the radio.

Thanks for your input. I wasn't very clear in my earlier posts,
so I hope this helps clear up what I'm trying to do.





Love2camp5 March 12th 04 01:17 PM

LINDA,

The revised Link/URL is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/306

hth ~ RHF


Thanks for that revised link....now I am getting the message that "you are not
a member of this group..."

Could anyone here who can access that post, please copy and paste that message
and either post it here or email it to me?

Thanks,
Linda

Temporary FL@L&ER March 15th 04 05:45 AM

Just join the group via YahooGroups. You can get to it via the main
Yahoo menu. After you get there it is simple enough.

On 12 Mar 2004 13:17:31 GMT, (Love2camp5) wrote:

LINDA,

The revised Link/URL is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/306

hth ~ RHF


Thanks for that revised link....now I am getting the message that "you are not
a member of this group..."

Could anyone here who can access that post, please copy and paste that message
and either post it here or email it to me?

Thanks,
Linda




Use the usual techniques to reply via email.

Molon Labe!

Sanjaya March 15th 04 09:12 PM

Ok, I have a portable SW radio with 1/8 inch mono antenna jack input.
I have 22 AWG hookup wire from RS.
I have a solderless 1/8 mono mini plug.
The mini plug has a sheath covering 2 screw "posts" where the wire
hooks up. One post goes to the center, the other goes to the outside
of the plug.
Which post gets the wire?



N8KDV March 15th 04 09:15 PM



Sanjaya wrote:

Ok, I have a portable SW radio with 1/8 inch mono antenna jack input.
I have 22 AWG hookup wire from RS.
I have a solderless 1/8 mono mini plug.
The mini plug has a sheath covering 2 screw "posts" where the wire
hooks up. One post goes to the center, the other goes to the outside
of the plug.
Which post gets the wire?


My guess would be the post going to the center.



Sanjaya March 16th 04 09:47 PM

Anyone?

"Sanjaya" wrote...
Ok, I have a portable SW radio with 1/8 inch mono antenna jack input.
I have 22 AWG hookup wire from RS.
I have a solderless 1/8 mono mini plug.
The mini plug has a sheath covering 2 screw "posts" where the wire
hooks up. One post goes to the center, the other goes to the outside
of the plug.
Which post gets the wire?





John Miller March 16th 04 10:10 PM

Sanjaya wrote:
Anyone?


"Sanjaya" wrote...
The mini plug has a sheath covering 2 screw "posts" where the wire
hooks up. One post goes to the center, the other goes to the outside
of the plug.
Which post gets the wire?


Conventionally, the antenna goes to the center, or tip.

--
John Miller
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

In a medium in which a news piece takes a minute and an "in-depth" piece
takes two minutes, the simple will drive out the complex.
-Frank Mankiewicz


Sanjaya March 16th 04 10:17 PM

"John Miller" wrote in message ...
Sanjaya wrote:
Anyone?


"Sanjaya" wrote...
The mini plug has a sheath covering 2 screw "posts" where the wire
hooks up. One post goes to the center, the other goes to the outside
of the plug.
Which post gets the wire?


Conventionally, the antenna goes to the center, or tip.


Thanks John!




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