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"CW" wrote in message ...
No, you both missed. An Atheist is one who does not believe in gods. No, YOU missed, CW, as did RHF. You were right up until the following point: "Anyone that believes in a god, no matter what the name of that god, is not an Atheist." I checked all eight of my dictionaries, consulted thesauri and books on word origins in English, and no mention was made of that last sentence. Not *one* of them mentioned anything along the lines of "Anyone that (sic) believes in a god, no matter what the name of that god (sic), is not an Atheist." If you can back up that statement with FACT, I'll bite. If not, your pseudologic is far too fishy for me. Please cite sources. 73, Steve Lawrence Burnsville, MN |
\A"the*ist\, n. [Gr. ? without god; 'a priv. + ? god: cf. F. ath['e]iste.]
1. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being. "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" spewed crap as usual |
"CW" wrote: | \A"the*ist\, n. [Gr. ? without god; 'a priv. + ? god: cf. F. ath['e]iste.] | 1. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme | intelligent Being. Fair 'nuff....but are you calling the Gulag - keepers "supreme intelligent Beings?" (grinning) 73, Steve Lawrence Burnsville, MN (Welllll, okay, maybe their masters....) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 |
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message om... (RHF) wrote in message . com... CW, "No, you both missed. An Atheist is one who does not believe in gods." Yes - That is True. No, it is not. Re - read what was written: RedOctober90 quoth: " I stay atheist... you never hear about " atheists mass slaughtering people over some "god". My reply merely pointed out that hardcore Marxist-Leninist governments were secular humanist in nature, which is to say that they were, as a part of their official policy, "atheists," and RedOctober90 is, therefore, in precisely the same company from which he was desperately attempting to distance himself, and that these governments, while in fact officially atheistic, managed to "mass slaughter" their best and brightest. Now, don't put words into my mouth, damnit. I was attempting to merely point out that, while RO90 was busy thumping his chest, his brain was gleefully asleep, inasmuch as he could not see the hypocrisy in his words. How could you have missed that one, guys? 73, Steve Lawrence Burnsville, Minnesota I didn't, Steve, but having made my point by agreeing with that post, then seeing the next post completely misunderstand the entire concept, I didn't think it worth my time to reply. I'm glad you did, though. The most fascinating thing I see in "Atheists" is that they have made a faith-based decision at least as profound as those that believe in God. They're saying "I'm absolutely positive that there is no God, my mind is made up." I can understand the "Agnostic" argument much more readily -- "I haven't seen enough evidence to believe in a God." But the atheist's belief that they are absolutely certain that there is not a God is (whether they admit it or not) a faith-based decision. -- Stinger |
"Stinger" wrote | The most fascinating thing I see in "Atheists" is that they have made a | faith-based decision at least as profound as those that believe in God. | They're saying "I'm absolutely positive that there is no God, my mind is | made up." When witnessing the wonders I can find in nature, even in my own backyard, I have to ask myself how anyone can make such a leap of faith. As I pointed out to a relative who claimed to be an Atheist (this was years ago; he's managed to recover of late).... "If you (an unbeliver) are right and I (a beliver) am wrong, you've got nothing to lose by believing." However, if I (a beliver) am right and you (an unbeliever) am wrong, you've got EVERYTHING to lose by not believing." I often think about the Ten Commandments monuments being torn down by unbelievers. If we struck the first one (I the Lord am your God, you will have no other gods before me), *just which one* of those commandments do folks find objectionable? Thou shalt not kill? Thou shalt not covet? I don't believe a monument hurts anyone - not even a monument to Islam, Buddhism, etc. etc. I wake up some mornings and wonder what will become of us as a nation, but I've still got hope. 73, Steve Lawrence Burnsville, MN --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 |
= = = Robert Beck wrote in message
= = = . .. Spain is about to prove that a terror attack can get countries to act as you wish. Thanks Spain .. FO&A, A New Domino Theory - by - al-Qaeda http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=3652 Tom Williams has translated an article by Yassin Musharbash that says that in December, 2003, in an Arabic language handbook. jtf ~ RHF .. |
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 04:57:03 GMT, Telamon
wrote: I read and listen to news outlets I don't agree with along with one's I do. Say what? |
"T Breslin" wrote in message ... We should deal with the terrorists. They'll just keep fighting. Let's see what they want. Nothing else has worked. "T Breslin," Don't pick your nose. .. .. .. .. Your head will collapse. -- Stinger |
T Breslin wrote: We should deal with the terrorists. They'll just keep fighting. Let's see what they want. Nothing else has worked. They want you dead. That'll work for them... Tell ya what, you go talk 'pretty' to 'em. Make a will before you go. Have your family let me know when the funeral is. |
Just to say one thing to the americans : as long as you'll be so
arrogant and as long as you'll want to control the world and as long as you'll have no consideration for the others countries, don't be suprised to see so many people hate you and want to commit violence on you. When you will have understood this maybe things 'll get better. But i don't think it comes a day : it seems you act this way from the very begining of your history! Fortunately, all the americans aren't like this. Peace. Just stop saying pacifism is leftism too. It's untrue and means nothing. (RHF) wrote in message . com... = = = Robert Beck wrote in message = = = . .. Spain is about to prove that a terror attack can get countries to act as you wish. Thanks Spain . FO&A, A New Domino Theory - by - al-Qaeda http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=3652 Tom Williams has translated an article by Yassin Musharbash that says that in December, 2003, in an Arabic language handbook. jtf ~ RHF . |
french_student wrote:
Just to say one thing to the americans : as long as you'll be so arrogant and as long as you'll want to control the world and as long as you'll have no consideration for the others countries, don't be suprised to see so many people hate you and want to commit violence on you. When you will have understood this maybe things 'll get better. But i don't think it comes a day : it seems you act this way from the very begining of your history! Fortunately, all the americans aren't like this. Peace. Just stop saying pacifism is leftism too. It's untrue and means nothing. Yea, you're right, we should stop all our aid to other countries, bring all our military home from where they protecting the interest of other countries and let the rest of the world attempt to make it own it's own. We are tried of supporting much of the rest of the world. |
| T Breslin wrote:
| | We should deal with the terrorists. They'll just keep fighting. | Let's see what they want. Nothing else has worked. They want a monopoly on religion and political power. They want more suckers like you. They want to kill you, or, barring that, taxing you with the jiziya. Which one would you pick? Which of your children would you offer to them to serve as slaves? That's what they want. Are you willing to give them any of that? Sucker. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 |
"french_student" wrote in message om... | Just to say one thing to the americans : as long as you'll be so | arrogant and as long as you'll want to control the world and as long | as you'll have no consideration for the others countries, don't be | suprised to see so many people hate you and want to commit violence on | you. On the other hand, Jerome, go screw yourself. Hey, would you like to buy a French rifle? Never been fired, and dropped only once. For what it's worth, I'm not at all surprised to see so many people hating America and wanting to commit violence on us. They do it because they envy our way of life and our freedom, and because they are programmed by insane mullahs to hate. And "Americans" is a word which should be capitalized, you non - bathing, wine - sipping, snail - sucking ****. -- Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 |
"JJ" wrote: | Yea, you're right, we should stop all our aid to other countries, bring | all our military home from where they protecting the interest of other | countries and let the rest of the world attempt to make it own it's own. | We are tried of supporting much of the rest of the world. Let's start with the French, then eliminate foreign aid everywhere. I learned when I was five years old that we can't buy our friends. When will America learn? -- Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 |
Maybe it just proves democracy is working in Spain - and I might add,
without a judicial coup d'etat. It was a major issue in the campaign before the terrorist bombing, and it probably played little role in the outcome. Pete |
Pierre L wrote: Maybe it just proves democracy is working in Spain - and I might add, without a judicial coup d'etat. Are you claiming there was a judicial coup d'etat here, retard? All the Supreme Court did was tell Florida to uphold their frickin election law. Now come on back when you can come up with something better than your worn out crap about President Bush being 'selected'. Sheeeh! Damn Liberals! |
Pierre L wrote: Maybe it just proves democracy is working in Spain - and I might add, without a judicial coup d'etat. Are you claiming there was a judicial coup d'etat here, retard? All the Supreme Court did was tell Florida to uphold their frickin election law. Now come on back when you can come up with something better than your worn out crap about President Bush being 'selected'. Sheeeh! Damn Liberals! And apparently a damn Canadian Liberal at that! |
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:54:03 GMT, "Stephen M.H. Lawrence"
wrote: | T Breslin wrote: | | We should deal with the terrorists. They'll just keep fighting. | Let's see what they want. Nothing else has worked. They want a monopoly on religion and political power. They want more suckers like you. They want to kill you, or, barring that, taxing you with the jiziya. Which one would you pick? Which of your children would you offer to them to serve as slaves? That's what they want. Are you willing to give them any of that? Sucker. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 So offer up a solution. Keep bombing them right. Do you think they can make more? |
That's exactly what I'm saying. To ensure fair elections in November 2004,
the US should ask to United Nations to send special election observers. It has worked in other banana republics. Pete "N8KDV" wrote in message ... Pierre L wrote: Maybe it just proves democracy is working in Spain - and I might add, without a judicial coup d'etat. Are you claiming there was a judicial coup d'etat here, retard? All the Supreme Court did was tell Florida to uphold their frickin election law. Now come on back when you can come up with something better than your worn out crap about President Bush being 'selected'. Sheeeh! Damn Liberals! |
"Bill Everhart" wrote: | Hey - there were bribes. You're right. But not by all the French | people. Nope. Just a few idiots. Just like some dicks in | Halliburton (sp) took a little extra pocket change - from their own | countrymen. Wow. It boggles the mind you pock marked SOB. Just | added that last sentence for fun. Just a few idiots, eh? You've revealed your ancestry well, satell****. Where are you going to go when you run away? I bet you'd *love* Angola! Again - you'd fit right in. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 |
"N8KDV" wrote | Are you claiming there was a judicial coup d'etat here, retard? | | All the Supreme Court did was tell Florida to uphold their frickin election | law. What really amazes me is this: Red Diaper Doper Babies **** themselves, over and over, and mention of the soldiers', sailors', airmen and womens', and Marines' votes....apparently didn't count. Shuck and jive! Shuck and jive! Dance for us, you goddamned Reds! 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 |
"Bill Everhart" wrote | So offer up a solution. Keep bombing them right. Do you think they | can make more? Two words, dumb****: Neutron Weapons. Enhanced Radiation devices which leave no radionuclides behind. If a ****ant nation messes with us, the US can simply launch the weapons, then, when the population dies off, send folks to repopulate. So, yes, not only should we keep bombing them, we should use the RIGHT weapons. Got that, Willie? Shall I spell it out for you? Kill them all, and let God sort them out. Religion of peace, my ass. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 |
"Bill Everhart" wrote: | I'm not quoting any statistics. I just judge marriage by the people I | know. Just here on my street in your typical white suburban (ouch | Kerry) neighborhood there's lots of divorce. Even at my church. The | kids get F'd. Trust me. I play a game of football or something with | them and you'd thing I just bought 'em a Corvette (we'll stay away | from trucks for the time being). They're aching for family. It | really sux. Okay, fair 'nuff, and yeah, I see some of the same. When I was dating the woman I'm lucky to now call my wife, I stopped over at her apartment for dinner one night (goddamn, what a mooch I was! I'm going to have to get her some flowers and a backrub for all of the times she fed me, but I digress)....anyway, I stopped to visit with the woman I love, and a little girl in the apartment next door and above hers, leaned over and looked at me, and asked, "Are you my daddy?" Talk about heartbreaking - thank God you play football with those kids, because maybe you'll be able to make them feel they are worth something. Parents ignore their children - *some* parents, but I'm not convinced that's the rule, as these things go. But I've searched my heart and brain for an answer - how do we fix the problem? I'm not willing to move to another country, because I've seen so many other countries and remain convinced that this is the best one on the face of the Earth, so I have to wonder, what's the solution? I don't believe it's big government, because for all of the money we throw at schools, things just seem to get worse. I harken back to the days of yore when most families had one parent at home - usually the Mom - and the kids had someone to *talk* to. My wife points out that, 'way back in the Twenties, convenience foods like peanut butter and cheese spread were created, she believes, so that kids could look after themselves while Mom and Dad went out for multiple serial nights on the town, so I don't know if I'd argue for going back to the "good old days." 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 |
In article ,
(french_student) wrote: Just to say one thing to the americans : as long as you'll be so arrogant and as long as you'll want to control the world and as long as you'll have no consideration for the others countries, don't be suprised to see so many people hate you and want to commit violence on you. When you will have understood this maybe things 'll get better. But i don't think it comes a day : it seems you act this way from the very begining of your history! Fortunately, all the americans aren't like this. Peace. Just stop saying pacifism is leftism too. It's untrue and means nothing. (RHF) wrote in message . com... = = = Robert Beck wrote in message = = = . .. Spain is about to prove that a terror attack can get countries to act as you wish. Thanks Spain As long as you are willing to wear that yellow stripe down your back no one will be willing to listen what you have to say. We want freedom and we want to give the rest of the world the same chance for it that we have had. Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear. I hope you will understand we will not back down from a challenge like the Spanish have. Blowing up a train here will just elicit a stronger response from us. Freedom is worth fighting for and we will not stop. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
In article . net,
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote: "Bill Everhart" wrote | So offer up a solution. Keep bombing them right. Do you think they | can make more? Two words, dumb****: Neutron Weapons. Enhanced Radiation devices which leave no radionuclides behind. If a ****ant nation messes with us, the US can simply launch the weapons, then, when the population dies off, send folks to repopulate. So, yes, not only should we keep bombing them, we should use the RIGHT weapons. Got that, Willie? Shall I spell it out for you? Kill them all, and let God sort them out. Religion of peace, my ass. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 Ah, a true fascist pig! You don't see many of those any more. Leonard -- "Everything that rises must converge" --Flannery O'Connor |
"Leonard Martin" wrote: | Ah, a true fascist pig! You don't see many of those any more. | | Leonard Ahh, here we have the crimp - cut logic of the Liberal. Your argument is rather lacking. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 |
In article
, Leonard Martin wrote: In article . net, "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote: "Bill Everhart" wrote | So offer up a solution. Keep bombing them right. Do you think | they can make more? Two words, dumb****: Neutron Weapons. Enhanced Radiation devices which leave no radionuclides behind. If a ****ant nation messes with us, the US can simply launch the weapons, then, when the population dies off, send folks to repopulate. So, yes, not only should we keep bombing them, we should use the RIGHT weapons. Got that, Willie? Shall I spell it out for you? Kill them all, and let God sort them out. Religion of peace, my ass. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 3/18/04 Ah, a true fascist pig! You don't see many of those any more. Leonard Don't see many whack jobs like you around either. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Bill Everhart wrote:
Here's a joke for you on topic - How come there were only 600 Mexicans at the Alamo? They only had two chevy pickups to get there in. |
Telamon wrote in message ...
I wish any country continued success combating terrorists anywhere they raise their heads and hope for your sake the new administration does well for Spain. Thank you for your sentiment. We, in Spain also hope that you in US are able to fight the terrorists that threaten you. All countries of civilization face similar threat here from fanatics, and no matter our disagreements in other areas, we in Spain will come to help USA in an instant if anyone attacks you like those ******* fanatics on Sept. 11. |
I'm not sure you are right on your points. Spain and every country nearby
can easily be monovered it by a short plane or train ride. To my line of thinking this makes it EASIER for radical organisations to carry out their dasterly acts. I'm here in Australia that means we are the furtherest away from the two largest (westernised) populaution masses of the world. To get here it's a good LONG plane ride!!!! Most Aussies see taking a plane trip as a thing you do for a holiday not like jumping in a taxi to go to work. With that siad we also live here each day with a country made up of every natioanlity you can poke a stick at. We live here in a country that is largely NEW as we are originally settled be convicts. Thus WHITE people here are some where in the history of are imported. Yes a TRUE Aussie is Either Born here or of Aboriginal decent. I've had the miss fortune of seeing here some people that are still in the mind that they should bring the crap from their mother country here too.... This is where the buck stops and any Aussie will bail you up. The point from me is we here live every day with a "pack of allsorts" as our people. This leads to a great and rich culture when walking down the street. They all live here under the banner of Australains. The only rule here is check your greevances at the gate or **** off!!! |
"Peter Tate" wrote : | The only rule here is | check your greevances at the gate or **** off!!! Everybruce: Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you amen! Fourth Bruce:Bruce: Crack tube! Any questions? Second Bruce: New-Bruce, are you a Poofter? Fourth Bruce: Are you a Poofter? Michael: No! Fourth Bruce: No. Right, I just want to remind you of the faculty rules: Rule One! Everybruce: No Poofters! Fourth Bruce: Rule Two, no member of the faculty is to maltreat the Abbos in any way at all -- if there's anybody watching. Rule Three? Everybruce: No Poofters!! Fourth Bruce: Rule Four, now this term, I don't want to catch anybody not drinking. Rule Five, Everybruce: No Poofters! Fourth Bruce: Rule Six, there is NO ... Rule Six. Rule Seven, Everybruce: No Poofters!! Fourth Bruce: Right, that concludes the readin' of the rules, Bruce. First Bruce: This here's the wattle, the emblem of our land. You can stick it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand. Everybruce: Amen! First Bruce: Right, let's get some Sheilas. (chuckling) 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 5/18/04 |
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