I was wondering because of all of the trouble picking up signals with the
natural environment were in, could it be possible that satellites shortwave
satellites solved this problem? While still being a wireless radio signal?

About a year ago I thought about XM radio. And I thought to myself if it
would ever carry shortwave stations?
And their is the Internet way to access radio? But it is not as fun
listening to radio through the Internet. You have to start up your PC, the
log on, then search for what you want to hear and it might not be live.

I guess for a city person as myself, I dream to someday live up on a
mountain and have the whole horizon to listen to.

73

"S R" wrote in message
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I guess for a city person as myself, I dream to someday live up on a
mountain and have the whole horizon to listen to.

Yes, the bug has bitten deep into you, and it will never let go. After
almost 50 years I just can't stay away from the SW bands. Part of the bug's
venom is the thrill of digging a signal out of the fading, noise and
clutter, and the days when some distant station you never heard before
suddenly shows up in the passband. Satellite broadcasting brings you the
content, but not the medium. For most die-hard SWLs, the medium is the
attraction; the content is only the reward at the end of the journey. Better
equipment and listening locations will only benefit those who take time to
learn the patience and skills. For them, the view from the top is
breathtaking, because they participated in the climb. Satellite listening is
less exciting than watching someone reading a newspaper.

"PM"

I'm glad there is more people like me out there. I will eventually get
satellite radio for my car, but I will always prefer shortwave radio.

Erik

"Paul_Morphy" wrote in message
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"S R" wrote in message
...

I guess for a city person as myself, I dream to someday live up on a
mountain and have the whole horizon to listen to.

Yes, the bug has bitten deep into you, and it will never let go. After
almost 50 years I just can't stay away from the SW bands. Part of the
bug's
venom is the thrill of digging a signal out of the fading, noise and
clutter, and the days when some distant station you never heard before
suddenly shows up in the passband. Satellite broadcasting brings you the
content, but not the medium. For most die-hard SWLs, the medium is the
attraction; the content is only the reward at the end of the journey.
Better
equipment and listening locations will only benefit those who take time to
learn the patience and skills. For them, the view from the top is
breathtaking, because they participated in the climb. Satellite listening
is
less exciting than watching someone reading a newspaper.

"PM"

I have short-wave in my car and on a recent trip through the mountains I
lost all the local stations so some quick tuning first to the 20 meter ham
band for a listen then to the VOA and it carried me through a long nights
drive. 9 hours in total darkness the week before Christmas. Have the best of
all worlds and go with SW in the car and a good antenna.

"Erik Chait" wrote in message
...
I'm glad there is more people like me out there. I will eventually get
satellite radio for my car, but I will always prefer shortwave radio.

Erik

"Paul_Morphy" wrote in message
...

"S R" wrote in message
...

I guess for a city person as myself, I dream to someday live up on a
mountain and have the whole horizon to listen to.

Yes, the bug has bitten deep into you, and it will never let go. After
almost 50 years I just can't stay away from the SW bands. Part of the
bug's
venom is the thrill of digging a signal out of the fading, noise and
clutter, and the days when some distant station you never heard before
suddenly shows up in the passband. Satellite broadcasting brings you the
content, but not the medium. For most die-hard SWLs, the medium is the
attraction; the content is only the reward at the end of the journey.
Better
equipment and listening locations will only benefit those who take time
to
learn the patience and skills. For them, the view from the top is
breathtaking, because they participated in the climb. Satellite
listening
is
less exciting than watching someone reading a newspaper.

"PM"

If you've got room for a C band satellite dish, you can pick up some shortwave
programming. If I recall correctly, since I haven't had the rig on for a
month, you can listen to RAI (Italy), DW (Germany), VOA, R. Marti, R. Sawa (all
USA).

A smaller Ku band dish may present similar results, but I don't have a Ku band
feed horn yet.

Even better is all the foreign TV signals you can pick up .... F R E E .

jw
wb9uai

In article ,
(J999w) wrote:

If you've got room for a C band satellite dish, you can pick up some shortwave
programming. If I recall correctly, since I haven't had the rig on for a
month, you can listen to RAI (Italy), DW (Germany), VOA, R. Marti, R.
Sawa (all
USA).

A smaller Ku band dish may present similar results, but I don't have a Ku band
feed horn yet.

Even better is all the foreign TV signals you can pick up .... F R E E .

jw
wb9uai

Could someone direct me to some information on how to recieve these C and KU
band signals. ie: harware and frequency info. (satellite for dummies)

thanks
Norm
Yar NS Can

"NDeveau" wrote in message
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Could someone direct me to some information on how to recieve these C and
KU
band signals. ie: harware and frequency info. (satellite for dummies)

http://www.google.com Search for 'c band satellite' and 'ku band satellite.'

"PM"

I am a dealer in FTA (Free To Air) satellite systems and would be glad to
answer any questions about the satellite hobby either here or by e-mail.
In short, here are most of the satellites viewable from most of North
America. http://www.lyngsat.com/america.shtml When you get there, click
on any satellite for a list of what is on it. For example, click on
"Intelsat Americas 5" to bring up a list of what is on it. Up until a few
days ago, this was Telstar 5, but Intelsat bought part of their fleet.

Notice that some of the MHz frequencies have 4 digits, while the ones in the
lower part of the list have 5. The 4 digit ones are C-band, the 5 digit
ones are Ku. C-band generally requires a 7.5 foot dish, with 10 feet being
optimum. Ku generally requires a 39" dish, but for a true hobbyist you can
get most things with a 30" one. A large C-band dish can get both C and Ku
with the proper feed assembly. Ku feeds are cheap, $10-$20 can get you a
good one.

In the list, anything that is in light yellow, white or gray is free. A
key to the color code is at the bottom of the page.

Less than $200 will get you a turn key Ku digital FTA system consisting of a
30" dish, LNBF, blind search receiver and cable. For C-band, the best bet
is to find abandoned dishes in your own location. All receivers are both C
and Ku, it is the dish size and feedhorn assembly that determines which is
received. Blind search means the receiver is smart enough to find the
signals without your having to know the frequencies and symbol rates listed
in the chart. You do not have to go through the tedious process of
entering them into the receiver, the receiver finds them and stores them
into channel memories (typical capacity ~3000 channels) entirely on it's
own. You can of course manually enter them if you want to.

Lee Richardson, owner
Mech-Tech
Evansville, Indiana





Could someone direct me to some information on how to recieve these C and
KU
band signals. ie: harware and frequency info. (satellite for dummies)

thanks
Norm
Yar NS Can

If you've got the room ... 6' or bigger dishes can be had for free (or at least
cheaply). Just up the road there is a 6' solid dish pointed into a row of very
tall bushes, oviously not used in a long time. The other way, there is a closed
restaurant with TWO mesh dishes on the roof.

Look and you shall find.

I also found Radio Greece on C band digital last night.

jw
wb9uai

Interesting! My son recently purchased stock in the satellite radio cause
there seems to be a sense
that the FCC won't be monitoring and enforcing their rules there. Could it
be that all the noise about
FCC enforcement would cause XM to become the next FM? Is FM going the way of
AM?

My question, who has satellite radio? What are the costs involved? Is it
worth it?
"S R" wrote in message
...
I was wondering because of all of the trouble picking up signals with the
natural environment were in, could it be possible that satellites
shortwave
satellites solved this problem? While still being a wireless radio
signal?

About a year ago I thought about XM radio. And I thought to myself if it
would ever carry shortwave stations?
And their is the Internet way to access radio? But it is not as fun
listening to radio through the Internet. You have to start up your PC,
the
log on, then search for what you want to hear and it might not be live.

I guess for a city person as myself, I dream to someday live up on a
mountain and have the whole horizon to listen to.

73