Degen DE1102 questions
 

Is this radio as good as many claim or is it just the hype of a new radio?
Where can I find one and how much are they going for?

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gil wrote:
Is this radio as good as many claim or is it just the hype of a new
radio? Where can I find one and how much are they going for?

Gil:
It's mostly hype. The radio's claim to fame is the low price. The radio
will not compete with high level portables and shouldn't for the price. It
might make a great starter radio for someone.

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Funny you ask. I just got mine today. Let's just say that the jury is
STILL out, on this radio ;)

"gil" wrote in message
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Is this radio as good as many claim or is it just the hype of a new radio?
Where can I find one and how much are they going for?

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On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:08:52 GMT, "Brian Denley"
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gil wrote:
Is this radio as good as many claim or is it just the hype of a new
radio? Where can I find one and how much are they going for?

Gil:
It's mostly hype. The radio's claim to fame is the low price. The radio
will not compete with high level portables and shouldn't for the price. It
might make a great starter radio for someone.

If this $75 radio will not outperform my $1700 Drake R8B, it seems
hardly worth building.

Overwelmed by Stupidity wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:08:52 GMT, "Brian Denley"
wrote:

Gil:
It's mostly hype. The radio's claim to fame is the low price. The
radio will not compete with high level portables and shouldn't for
the price. It might make a great starter radio for someone.

If this $75 radio will not outperform my $1700 Drake R8B, it seems
hardly worth building.

You're so overwhelmed, you can't even read correctly. Perhaps the word
'portable' needs to be explained to you.

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Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

My feeling on the subject (which really gets some people's dander up
sometimes) is that my DE1102 will let me pick up more than 95% of what a
$5000 rig can get. If that 95% is enough for you, welcome to the club.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:07:08 GMT, "Brian Denley"
wrote:

Overwelmed by Stupidity wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:08:52 GMT, "Brian Denley"
wrote:

Gil:
It's mostly hype. The radio's claim to fame is the low price. The
radio will not compete with high level portables and shouldn't for
the price. It might make a great starter radio for someone.

If this $75 radio will not outperform my $1700 Drake R8B, it seems
hardly worth building.

You're so overwhelmed, you can't even read correctly. Perhaps the word
'portable' needs to be explained to you.

Sorry, I thought the sarcasm would have been quite evident. If you
would or have followed the DEGEN DE1102 posts on this forum, you would
have found people comparing this radio to the R-75 and Drake R8 and
being surprised that it did not perform as well. Please also note
again the name I posted under. Some people just never seem to
understand.

Overwelmed by Stupidity wrote:

Sorry, I thought the sarcasm would have been quite evident. If you
would or have followed the DEGEN DE1102 posts on this forum, you would
have found people comparing this radio to the R-75 and Drake R8 and
being surprised that it did not perform as well. Please also note
again the name I posted under. Some people just never seem to
understand.

My orignal comment was based on comparing that radio to a 'decent' portable
such as the Sony icf-7600. I made no attempt to compare it to a table top
receiver. I don't think the DE1102 is a very good radio (even though it is
cheap) and I wouldn't recommend it to someone starting in the hobby.

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Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

My feeling on the subject (which really gets some people's dander up
sometimes) is that my DE1102 will let me pick up more than 95% of what a
$5000 rig can get. If that 95% is enough for you, welcome to the club.

Corbin,
Your credibility factor is waning. Now if you want to get serious and start
posting some 'realDX' logs with this incredible DX machine, please feel free.

But of course, you can 'type' anything.;-)
I need to sell my junk and just buy one DE and I'll have it made. Can I hook
it to my A/D DX sloper wayyyyy up in the air or to wire 600ft. wire of my other
120ft. sloper without it overloading?

Or will a string of ten ft. of wire work and I should get rid of my antennas
also. {?}

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Hello Gil,
I own the 1102 and quite a number of other SW portables. For the
price of $100 it is a good deal and well up to the job of catching
most of the major SW broadcasts aimed at the USA and Europe. It has
some nice features such as re-chargable batteries included in the box
which can be re-charged when used with the adaptor supplied (note the
adaptor is a 220v unit but most suplliers on eBay will includ a 110v
convertor at no extra cost). I have run up about 200 hours of
listening on my 1102 and have found it to be a capable little addition
to my SW receiver collection, not the best receiver you can buy but
certainly one of the best for a $100. I've no axe to grind, I have no
shares in Degen/Kaito etc and I am no expert on SW receivers but I am
a keen listener and my 1102 is great for that. If you have the money
you'll easily find much better receivers but it will be hard to find a
comparable receiver for a $100.
Goo0d luck with whatever you buy,
Regards,
Alan
mi"gil" wrote in message nk.net...
Is this radio as good as many claim or is it just the hype of a new radio?
Where can I find one and how much are they going for?

Hello Brian,
Just a quick note to say that my 1102 is now preferred by me to my
Sony ICF-7600G, ATS909 and my my Grundig Yatchboy. The 1102 is not
the best but for a $100 new it's a great deal.
Regards,
Alan
"Brian Denley" wrote in message news:CAt7c.56170$_w.900795@attbi_s53...
Overwelmed by Stupidity wrote:

Sorry, I thought the sarcasm would have been quite evident. If you
would or have followed the DEGEN DE1102 posts on this forum, you would
have found people comparing this radio to the R-75 and Drake R8 and
being surprised that it did not perform as well. Please also note
again the name I posted under. Some people just never seem to
understand.

My orignal comment was based on comparing that radio to a 'decent' portable
such as the Sony icf-7600. I made no attempt to compare it to a table top
receiver. I don't think the DE1102 is a very good radio (even though it is
cheap) and I wouldn't recommend it to someone starting in the hobby.

Hello,
I agree with you on that point. The trouble with these SW groups is
that some folk will "trash" any receiver that is not theirs, it's
always the same. Anything that might be good/better/value for money
and they come on here telling everyone such and such is rubbish, so
and so is junk with no evidence or any reasonable/subjective approach
to the receiver in question. The best SW receiver I have used was in
the navy, I could listen almost anything out there but as I am not
able to buy this stuff I settle for the what I can afford, a Degen
1102 (plus a few others) which lets me listen to most stuff of
interest to me. I feel a bit sorry for some folk....now where's me
1102........
Regards,
Alan
"Corbin Ray" wrote in message ...
My feeling on the subject (which really gets some people's dander up
sometimes) is that my DE1102 will let me pick up more than 95% of what a
$5000 rig can get. If that 95% is enough for you, welcome to the club.

I have run up about 200 hours of
listening on my 1102 and have found it to be a capable little addition
to my SW receiver collection, not the best receiver you can buy but
certainly one of the best for a $100.

Yes, my thoughts exactly. I would not compare the DE1102 (or my KA1102) to a
Drake R8 or other high-end tabletop radio, but for a small portable
shortwave, it's a good deal for the price.

Jackie

"Jackie" wrote in message
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I have run up about 200 hours of
listening on my 1102 and have found it to be a capable little addition
to my SW receiver collection, not the best receiver you can buy but
certainly one of the best for a $100.

Yes, my thoughts exactly. I would not compare the DE1102 (or my KA1102) to
a
Drake R8 or other high-end tabletop radio, but for a small portable
shortwave, it's a good deal for the price.

Jackie


Actually, I would qualify it even further. The KA1102's niche is as a
unique "Walkman"-type radio for use with light stereo headphones on-the-go.
It really excels in that application.

However, if you're going to put it on a nightstand and listen via the
speaker, you would be much better off with a YB400 or an ATS-909 (both of
which are more expensive than a KA1102 -- but well worth it in terms of
better audio quality).

-- Stinger

"Stinger" wrote in message
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Actually, I would qualify it even further. The KA1102's niche is as a
unique "Walkman"-type radio for use with light stereo headphones
on-the-go.
It really excels in that application.

I can see how it would fit neatly into that niche. My KA1102 is barely
larger than my Yaesu VX-5R handi-talkie, which is pocket-sized. Now that
it's warming up outside, I'm going to take my KA1102 out with me when I go
walking and biking.

Jackie

However, if you're going to put it on a nightstand and listen via the
speaker, you would be much better off with a YB400 or an ATS-909 (both of
which are more expensive than a KA1102 -- but well worth it in terms of
better audio quality).

Had both the YB400 and the 909....how does the 1102 compare to them in
performance?

Gil
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"Jackie" wrote in message
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I have run up about 200 hours of
listening on my 1102 and have found it to be a capable little addition
to my SW receiver collection, not the best receiver you can buy but
certainly one of the best for a $100.

Yes, my thoughts exactly. I would not compare the DE1102 (or my KA1102)
to
a
Drake R8 or other high-end tabletop radio, but for a small portable
shortwave, it's a good deal for the price.

Jackie


Actually, I would qualify it even further. The KA1102's niche is as a
unique "Walkman"-type radio for use with light stereo headphones
on-the-go.
It really excels in that application.

However, if you're going to put it on a nightstand and listen via the
speaker, you would be much better off with a YB400 or an ATS-909 (both of
which are more expensive than a KA1102 -- but well worth it in terms of
better audio quality).

-- Stinger

Alan J Giddings wrote:
Hello Brian,
Just a quick note to say that my 1102 is now preferred by me to my
Sony ICF-7600G, ATS909 and my my Grundig Yatchboy. The 1102 is not
the best but for a $100 new it's a great deal.
Regards,
Alan


Alan:
You find it superior because it costs less? I tried one for three days and
found it to be a rather cheap feeling radio with VERY pedestrian
performance. The price means nothing to me if the performance isn't
decent...and it wasn't.

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Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"gil" wrote in message link.net...

Had both the YB400 and the 909....how does the 1102 compare to them in
performance?

Gil

Gil,

I have a DX-398 (a 909) and an 1102 and ears wise, when the 1102 is
using its included wire it performs very well compared to the 398
(909). The 398 will handle MUCH more antenna and what that does for
you is not for me to say.

The DX-398 has a better speaker and sound, but it should for the price
and it is comparatively much bigger than the 1102.

The 1102 seems to do better on batteries for me.

I don't think you can go wrong with either, it is just a matter of
money in my book.

acs
http://homepage.mac.com/chevyorange

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"Brian Denley" wrote:

You find it superior because it costs less? I tried one for three days and
found it to be a rather cheap feeling radio with VERY pedestrian
performance. The price means nothing to me if the performance isn't
decent...and it wasn't.

I would have to say that you had a lemon. I just received a Kaito
KA1102 (same radio), and it's performance is really quite amazing.

Now before you think "he has no experience", let me say that I also have
an original Drake R8, a Grundig Satellit 650, a Radio Shack DX-440 and
several antique tube receivers.

The 1102 is a great compact portable, that really excels when using
headphones. It's general performance is equal to the DX-440, but of
course the DX-440 sounds better thru it's speaker, which is to be
expected. Thru headphones they are nearly identical.

Keep in mind the DX-440 weighs about 5 pounds including it's 6 "D"
batteries, is about 3 times bigger, and cost $150 when new. The 1102
was $80 including shipping.

It's a great addition to a collection, and IMO can't be beat as a travel
portable.

Dan

Dan wrote:


I would have to say that you had a lemon. I just received a Kaito
KA1102 (same radio), and it's performance is really quite amazing.

It's a great addition to a collection, and IMO can't be beat as a
travel portable.

Dan

Dan:
I put it up against my Sony portable because that's what I use as a travel
radio. The Sony (SW55) had much better weak signal sensitivity (it also
costs much more!) and so I was dissapointed. But my main problem with these
Chinese portables is that they remind me of the Japanese portables of many
years ago: poor quality control. Japanese radios now have excellent quality
and hopefully it's only a matter of time until the Chinese manufacturers get
it right. Until then I will look elsewhere for a smaller travel radio:
maybe the SW1 or SW100.

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