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Smokey March 21st 04 10:50 AM

CHEAP SONY 2010 REPAIR
 
If you are experiencing diminished or dead sensitivity on your once hot
SONY ICF-2010 radio you probably have popped the first RF stage. Static
discharges as well as overload from strong signals cause this. This is the
most vulnerable weakness in the '2010 and older models of the 2010 were
especially susceptible.. We will replace the defective components and return
your 2010 within 7 days for $25 plus shipping (actual shipping...NOT some
inflated amount like too many places are charging these days.) If the
problem is a more serious one we will return the radio to you for shipping
cost only unrepaired. This is not a "bait and switch" scheme where our $25
is a come-on that leads to higher hourly shop rates. It's honest. We will
repair it at the hourly rate but this special pertains only to the repair
described here and quite frankly you can do better sending your radio
elsewhere. However we have recently obtained a supply of rf stage components
that enable us to offer this inexpensive fix.

Sparks Radio Shop
8679 Pinkhurst Drive
Minocqua, WI 54548



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Volker Tonn March 21st 04 12:28 PM



Smokey wrote:

If you are experiencing diminished or dead sensitivity ...
...for $25 plus shipping ...
However we have recently obtained a supply of rf stage components
that enable us to offer this inexpensive fix.

Sparks Radio Shop
8679 Pinkhurst Drive
Minocqua, WI 54548



Ouch. Your commercial post to newsgroups is NOT WELCOME.
You will be reported for newsgroup abuse to your ISP.

This "repair" is done within 10 minutes by replacing a FET of less than
1.50US$.

Replacing the FET is a really easy job. At least it is highly
recommended to add 2 pairs of diodes to prevent further death of the FET
on static crashes. The needed diodes are less than 0.10US$ each and it
takes less than 2 minutes when the case is open.

So 25 US$ for a 15 minute unqualified job including less than US$ 2 on
material is not a good price.

I have 2-3 of the FETs as spare parts for mine. I bought a few of them
when I realized that my 2001D was deaf. I replaced the FET and added the
4 diodes. I had no problems using my 2001D on big antennas then.

The diode mod is factory done on newer production runs.

There are some websites showing how the repair and the mod is done...


Stinger March 21st 04 01:44 PM

V.T. -- use your head for something besides a hat-holder. If the guy didn't
know how to diagnose this common 2010 problem, he damn sure doesn't know how
to replace an FET (much less add diodes). He asked for info for cheap
repair (and got it).

-- Stinger

"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...


Smokey wrote:

If you are experiencing diminished or dead sensitivity ...
...for $25 plus shipping ...
However we have recently obtained a supply of rf stage components
that enable us to offer this inexpensive fix.

Sparks Radio Shop
8679 Pinkhurst Drive
Minocqua, WI 54548



Ouch. Your commercial post to newsgroups is NOT WELCOME.
You will be reported for newsgroup abuse to your ISP.

This "repair" is done within 10 minutes by replacing a FET of less than
1.50US$.

Replacing the FET is a really easy job. At least it is highly
recommended to add 2 pairs of diodes to prevent further death of the FET
on static crashes. The needed diodes are less than 0.10US$ each and it
takes less than 2 minutes when the case is open.

So 25 US$ for a 15 minute unqualified job including less than US$ 2 on
material is not a good price.

I have 2-3 of the FETs as spare parts for mine. I bought a few of them
when I realized that my 2001D was deaf. I replaced the FET and added the
4 diodes. I had no problems using my 2001D on big antennas then.

The diode mod is factory done on newer production runs.

There are some websites showing how the repair and the mod is done...




Michael Bryant March 21st 04 02:43 PM

From: Volker Tonn

Ouch. Your commercial post to newsgroups is NOT WELCOME.
You will be reported for newsgroup abuse to your ISP.


Dear Sir,

We don't need any steenkin' net nannies. The repair is a very common one that
many non-technical 2010 owners need. $25 for said repairs is several times
lower than I've seen any other repair facility say they could fix it for.

The info is needed.
The info is SW-related.
The fix is a good price for such a service.

If you can do nothing more than threaten people's ISPs for the provision of
Sw-related services, you should opt for silence.

Thank-you for your defenses in other areas, but that does not justify threats
against people that are SW-related.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

N8KDV March 21st 04 02:44 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: Volker Tonn


Ouch. Your commercial post to newsgroups is NOT WELCOME.
You will be reported for newsgroup abuse to your ISP.


Dear Sir,

We don't need any steenkin' net nannies. The repair is a very common one that
many non-technical 2010 owners need. $25 for said repairs is several times
lower than I've seen any other repair facility say they could fix it for.

The info is needed.
The info is SW-related.
The fix is a good price for such a service.

If you can do nothing more than threaten people's ISPs for the provision of
Sw-related services, you should opt for silence.

Thank-you for your defenses in other areas, but that does not justify threats
against people that are SW-related.


What about your threats Fat Boy...?

Still waiting for those posts...




Volker Tonn March 21st 04 03:20 PM


Michael Bryant schrieb:


If you can do nothing more than threaten people's ISPs for the provision of
Sw-related services, you should opt for silence.


Nobody asked for help on repair his 2010 this "Smokey" advertised. This
is against all newsgroup rules and well worth to complain. Done.


Burr March 21st 04 03:48 PM

You need to go back on the other side of the wall!!!!

Burr

Volker Tonn wrote:

Michael Bryant schrieb:


If you can do nothing more than threaten people's ISPs for the
provision of
Sw-related services, you should opt for silence.



Nobody asked for help on repair his 2010 this "Smokey" advertised. This
is against all newsgroup rules and well worth to complain. Done.



Volker Tonn March 21st 04 04:03 PM



Burr schrieb:

You need to go back on the other side of the wall!!!!


Back to your side?
No thanks. I love the freedom I have....
Too many fences around you (in the US). Some visible, most not.


Tracy Fort March 21st 04 04:52 PM

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 17:03:43 +0100, Volker Tonn
wrote:



Burr schrieb:

You need to go back on the other side of the wall!!!!


Back to your side?
No thanks. I love the freedom I have....
Too many fences around you (in the US). Some visible, most not.




OK...thats it...I've had enough! I'm reporting you to Creep ASAP.


hehe...

Tracy

Volker Tonn March 21st 04 07:21 PM



-=jd=- schrieb:


Someone asked for help - Smokey stepped up.


I saw no "" to another post.
Where and when did someone ask? 2 years ago...?


Of the replies posted, no-one else has a problem with it
(other than you).

I'm sure if (a very, very large *IF*) "Smokey's" ISP actually
pays any attention to your complaint, I'm sure that they
would do some cursory investigation before TOS'ing someone.
When they check the message thread you indicated, they will
see that most of the other posters do not agree with you.


That's not relevant.

They will probably then wonder (perhaps aloud), "This 'Volker
Tonn' dude's a bit touchy, isn't he?", and that will be that.


It's not my fault, others do not know basic newsgroup policies...
Any commercial advertisement to newsgroups other than a direct reply to
a specific post is UNWANTED SPAM.


I'd refrain from complaining to that same ISP again. As you
have a rather unusual posting name, they might remember you
as, "Oh... It's that Volker dude again trying to make a
mountain out of a mole-hill"...


Other than this "Smokey" I have no need to hide behind a nickname...


No offense intended, but realistically that's the way I see
it playing out. Other opinions may vary...

And remember, "Melvin Creep" has already claimed to be the
spokes-creep for the group. You should rag on his "Creepy"
arse for napping on the job. :-)


Oh ;-) Melvin is a 'registered troll[tm]'. I do not feed him.


Brian Hill March 21st 04 07:49 PM


Mr. Tonn! if your going to moderate, please do it in moderation!

P.S. That's a great price for the service. Keep up the good work Smokey.

Brian
--
Never under estimate the stimulation of eccentricity.

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/




Frank Dresser March 21st 04 09:17 PM


"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...


Ouch. Your commercial post to newsgroups is NOT WELCOME.
You will be reported for newsgroup abuse to your ISP.

This "repair" is done within 10 minutes by replacing a FET of less than
1.50US$.

Replacing the FET is a really easy job. At least it is highly
recommended to add 2 pairs of diodes to prevent further death of the FET
on static crashes. The needed diodes are less than 0.10US$ each and it
takes less than 2 minutes when the case is open.

So 25 US$ for a 15 minute unqualified job including less than US$ 2 on
material is not a good price.

[snip]

Hey, Volker! How much would you charge for doing the job?

Frank Dresser



Volker Tonn March 22nd 04 06:06 PM



Frank Dresser schrieb:


Hey, Volker! How much would you charge for doing the job?


I'm a professional pipe-installer/ plumber. The company I work for
charges about EUR 35,- for 1 hour real hard work....
Beeing realistic a repair would cost 17 US$ (parts included) it would
give you an hourly income of US$ 40 or more easily, handling the
shipping (UPS pick up service or similar) included. Costs of shipping
are seperately.
I don't do radio repair by profession and I will not charge for helping
a friend other than the parts cost.
So come to me with your 2010 in one hand and a six-pack of coke-classic
in the other hand. Lets have a nice talk and let's drink a coke while I
change the blown FET and add some diodes...
I live in Berlin/ Germany. A little search will bring up my cell-phone
number to you...

Volker


Rob Mills March 22nd 04 06:54 PM


"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...

I'm a professional pipe-installer/ plumber.


Do you promise that you won't use the same soldering that you use for
plumbing. : )

Cheer's, RM~



Volker Tonn March 22nd 04 07:12 PM



Rob Mills schrieb:


Do you promise that you won't use the same soldering that you use for
plumbing. : )


Not the same soldering as for plumbing? What else?
Just curious ;-)

Volker


Frank Dresser March 22nd 04 08:25 PM


"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...


Rob Mills schrieb:


Do you promise that you won't use the same soldering that you use for
plumbing. : )


Not the same soldering as for plumbing? What else?
Just curious ;-)

Volker


Here, in the US, copper pipe is soldered together. The plumbing solder used
to be something like 50-50 tin/lead with an acid flux core. Kit
manufacturers, such as Heathkit, would warn the kit builders not to use any
acid core solder. They clearly explained that the acid flux would leave a
corrosive residue which would damage the electronics. The guarantee was
void on any kit assembled with acid flux solder. The warnings were so
prominent that I'm sure kit builders will remember them long after they have
forgotten the resistor color code.

Lead based plumbing solder is now banned in the US. The new plumbing solder
has bismuth or something in it. The acid flux core is still there.

Frank Dresser



Frank Dresser March 22nd 04 08:26 PM


"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...


I'm a professional pipe-installer/ plumber. The company I work for
charges about EUR 35,- for 1 hour real hard work....
Beeing realistic a repair would cost 17 US$ (parts included) it would
give you an hourly income of US$ 40 or more easily, handling the
shipping (UPS pick up service or similar) included. Costs of shipping
are seperately.
I don't do radio repair by profession and I will not charge for helping
a friend other than the parts cost.
So come to me with your 2010 in one hand and a six-pack of coke-classic
in the other hand. Lets have a nice talk and let's drink a coke while I
change the blown FET and add some diodes...
I live in Berlin/ Germany. A little search will bring up my cell-phone
number to you...

Volker


That sounds like a very good deal, but I don't have a 2010 nor do I think
I'll be in Germany anytime soon. Anyway, I do all my own radio repairs.
I'll fix up a radio for someone I know, but I don't want to deal with the
general public. Some people are just plain nuts!! And considering the time
a repair person might waste making some nut happy, I sure can understand why
a repair person would charge more than a minimal rate in order to avoid
taking a loss on the whole business.

Mmmmm. That Coke offer sounds tempting, though.

Frank Dresser



Volker Tonn March 22nd 04 09:37 PM



Frank Dresser schrieb:

"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...


Rob Mills schrieb:


Do you promise that you won't use the same soldering that you use for
plumbing. : )


Not the same soldering as for plumbing? What else?
Just curious ;-)

Volker


...
Here, in the US, copper pipe is soldered together. The plumbing solder used
to be something like 50-50 tin/lead with an acid flux core....


Hi Frank.
You didn't see my smilie? Hmmm?
In germany soldering for copper is somewhat 70/30 tin/lead -much more
tighter than 50/50. 50/50 is only used for repairs on old lead-pipes
wich are no longer used for new pipes since decades here and it has the
flux core in it and looks like VERY thick electronics solder. It's very
tricky to solder this over head. I learned to handele this more than 20
years ago... :-)
On copper we use acid flux with very fine solder gravel in it wich is
brought to the copper skin with a brush before putting the copper things
together. You will have the copper tinplated when heated only without
adding any additional solder.
For electronics I prefer thin electronics solder with 0.5mm (0.02") in
diameter with my temperatur regulated soldering station. Also have 1.0mm
in use for bigger parts like cable connectors or repairs on car-electrics.

Volker


Frank Dresser March 24th 04 12:29 AM


"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...


Frank Dresser schrieb:


Hi Frank.
You didn't see my smilie? Hmmm?


Of course not! :-)

In germany soldering for copper is somewhat 70/30 tin/lead -much more
tighter than 50/50. 50/50 is only used for repairs on old lead-pipes
wich are no longer used for new pipes since decades here and it has the
flux core in it and looks like VERY thick electronics solder. It's very
tricky to solder this over head. I learned to handele this more than 20
years ago... :-)


Lead pipe hasn't been used in the US for decades, either. Except in
Chicago, where it was required by code for the hook up from the underground
water main to the house. Chicago dropped the lead pipe requirement less
than 20 years ago.

I'm a bit surprised that lead alloy solder is still used in Germany for
drinking water pipes. I thought the Europeans had been more agressive in
their concerns about lead. As far as I know, lead base paints had been
banned first in Europe, and there is more concern about disposing electronic
items with lead alloy solder there.

The bismuth alloy plumbing solder I've used was solid core.

The 50/50 solder you describe sounds exactly like the kind of acid flux core
solder we kitbuilders were warned not to use.

On copper we use acid flux with very fine solder gravel in it wich is
brought to the copper skin with a brush before putting the copper things
together. You will have the copper tinplated when heated only without
adding any additional solder.



Yes, that sort of flux is commonly available here. It works well. And
copper pipes are always cleaned, then fluxed with external flux before
soldering. Solid core solder is prefered for plumbing because it doesn't
feed in so quickly, but acid core solder produces just as good a joint.
Acid core solder is better for general purpose work, such as soldering sheet
metal with a torch. If a handyman has only one roll of solder, it's
probably acid core.



For electronics I prefer thin electronics solder with 0.5mm (0.02") in
diameter with my temperatur regulated soldering station. Also have 1.0mm
in use for bigger parts like cable connectors or repairs on car-electrics.

Volker


For rosin core, I just buy the thin stuff. I don't like having extra spools
of solder around. Good thing I read the warning about acid core solder!

Frank Dresser




Volker Tonn March 24th 04 06:02 PM



Frank Dresser schrieb:

"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...

Hi Frank.
You didn't see my smilie? Hmmm?



Of course not! :-)


Hi Frank.
We are going way too off topic....
When you come to Berlin one day we may have an extended talk in my
living room. You're invited for a coke at least.
I have to push my vocabulary used by handcraftsmen... ;-)
You may bookmark the reply adress of this(!) posting for private mail.

regards,
Volker


CW March 26th 04 09:43 PM

Be warned. They drink Coke just like beer, room temperature. :)

"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
When you come to Berlin one day we may have an extended talk in my
living room. You're invited for a coke at least.
I have to push my vocabulary used by handcraftsmen... ;-)
You may bookmark the reply adress of this(!) posting for private mail.

regards,
Volker




Volker Tonn March 27th 04 10:29 AM



CW schrieb:

Be warned. They drink Coke just like beer, room temperature. :)


I have a microwave oven ;-)
I don't know about beer because I do not drink beer. It does not taste
to me... But Coke has to have 2-4 degrees Celsius(!).

On our honeymoon trip of 5500 miles through southwest US in summer of
'87 we had to get crushed ice twice a day on the gas-stations to keep
our Coke real cold. :-)



CW March 27th 04 11:15 PM

Cold Coke and no beer? Are you a traitor? :) :)


"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...


CW schrieb:

Be warned. They drink Coke just like beer, room temperature. :)


I have a microwave oven ;-)
I don't know about beer because I do not drink beer. It does not taste
to me... But Coke has to have 2-4 degrees Celsius(!).

On our honeymoon trip of 5500 miles through southwest US in summer of
'87 we had to get crushed ice twice a day on the gas-stations to keep
our Coke real cold. :-)





Volker Tonn March 28th 04 03:48 PM



CW schrieb:
Cold Coke and no beer? Are you a traitor? :) :)


A traitor of what?
For sure I like a good wine or a pure whiskey (without ice and coke)
sometimes.. :-)
I do driving a lot for buisiness and privately and like driving. And I
do never drink _and_ drive. So I drink alcohol very seldom.
Just got my "new" used Volkswagen T4-van on friday.... :-)



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