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Old March 28th 04, 09:02 PM
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Michael Bryant wrote:

I just can't understand why Republicans find education, educators and culture
to be so subversive.


We find it subversive when we think of so-called educators such as yourself trying
to inculcate your bull scree into the minds of the children of the U.S.A.


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Old March 28th 04, 10:41 PM
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First off, Michael, if you don't see liberal bias in NPR, you're being
intellectually dishonest, because I know you're smart enough to recognize
it.

NPR was a great idea, and government grants were needed to get it off the
ground. Now, it can be heard pretty much anywhere in the USA.

Liberal bias at NPR springs from basically the same source you'll always see
from federal workers. Liberals like to grow government, and from the
federal worker (and federal funding) point of view, that's "good for the
company business." So, they cozy up to the liberal point-of-view.

However, as a conservative, I don't like my tax dollars supporting something
that I don't agree with. I have no problem with them being on the air -- I
just don't want to get the bill.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting has been given some very notable
donations in the past couple of years, and the need for feeding at the
public trough has passed. One such donation was more than their entire
budget for a few years.



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You dispute the fact that many educators are leftists? Get your head out

of
your
fat ass boy!


OK, I see. To you it's obvious that many educators are "leftists." Then

you
probably agree with the Secretary of Education branding the National

Education
Association as "terrorists," right, Steve?

"Tell the lie big, tell it enough times, and it becomes the truth." Do you

know
who said that, Steve?


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Old March 28th 04, 11:51 PM
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If you are going to Question "The Facts" MWB.
Then 'present' "The Facts" in their Entirety.


Maybe you should present YOUR facts in entirety. What percentage of NPR funding
comes from the government, RHF?

http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html


MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]
..
..

Here's NPR's current stories their working on.
Why don't you tell all of us bigoted educators which ones
represent propaganda from the OWLES ?
http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html


MWB - So 'now' You Do Admit In Your Own Words To Being A "bigoted educator".
..
..

NOTE: That the majority of Clear Channel's Programming is Music.
http://www.clearchannel.com/



Duh. I was talking about Clear Channel AM stations.
And you provide a statistic that lumps their AM & FM content together.


MWB - The very simple and honest 'fact' is that:

The Spoken Word - Is The Spoken Word [.]

Be It Spoken On AM Radio and/or FM Radio.
[ Or that matter Shortwave Radio. ]

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]


MWB - If We are ONLY 'taking' about "Clear Channel's AM Talk Radio"

Out of about 13,500 Total Radio Stations:
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/totals/bt031231.html

AM RADIO = 4794
FM RADIO = 6217
FM EDUCATIONAL = 2552 {NPR&PRI = Liberal Left Propaganda ~ 19%}
----------------------------------------------------
TOTAL 13563 (Clear Channel 600 {50% AM} ~ 4.5%)

The Liberal-Left has a 19% to 4.5% (4:1) "Advantage Over"
the Conservative-Right in Media Ownership.
..
..

I know you are a better arguer than this.
Please try harder.


MWB - Just Trying To Make It Easy Enought . . .
So You Can Still Stay In The Game )


Just the facts.


MWB - The Facts Speak For Themselves ~ RHF
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..
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Old March 29th 04, 04:10 AM
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From: (RHF)

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]
.


No, you don't understand, RHF. You think you do, but you don't. And you
continue to ignore the facts. The URLs I provided showed that only 2% of NPR
funding comes from the government and that it's a very small fraction of
"Billions of Dollars." You didn't even read them, did you?

Now, you make it sound that Clear Channel is just a shining example of
effective free enterprise capitalism. Hardly. Check out the sites for the real
facts of how Clear Channel's patronage and donations to Bush have been turned
into special advantages:

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/04/18_clear.html

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/radiogaga.html

Now, take the time to read them.





.

Here's NPR's current stories their working on.
Why don't you tell all of us bigoted educators which ones
represent propaganda from the OWLES ?
http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html


You didn't even attempt to point out which current NPR stories are part of the
leftist propaganda machine.



MWB - So 'now' You Do Admit In Your Own Words To Being A "bigoted educator".
.


Nope. I was mocking you calling anyone on the other side of the political
spectrum bigoted.

NOTE: That the majority of Clear Channel's Programming is Music.
http://www.clearchannel.com/


Yes, 50% of Clear Channel stations are FM. Most FM stations above the
educational basement of the FM band are music stations.

The vast majority of CC's AM channels are consertive talk stations. That's what
I claimed in the first place.

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]


Thanks for repeating that visual poetry. I guess someone could've missed it as
many times as you've repeated it.

TOTAL 13563 (Clear Channel 600 {50% AM} ~ 4.5%)

The Liberal-Left has a 19% to 4.5% (4:1) "Advantage Over"
the Conservative-Right in Media Ownership.


Your assumption is that ALL stations not owned by Clear Channel are, by
default, part of the liberal-left. Can you possibly back that up with any
additional documentation?

RHF, you're making it too easy.


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Stinger wrote:

First off, Michael, if you don't see liberal bias in NPR, you're being
intellectually dishonest, because I know you're smart enough to recognize
it.

NPR was a great idea, and government grants were needed to get it off the
ground. Now, it can be heard pretty much anywhere in the USA.

Liberal bias at NPR springs from basically the same source you'll always see
from federal workers. Liberals like to grow government, and from the
federal worker (and federal funding) point of view, that's "good for the
company business." So, they cozy up to the liberal point-of-view.

However, as a conservative, I don't like my tax dollars supporting something
that I don't agree with. I have no problem with them being on the air -- I
just don't want to get the bill.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting has been given some very notable
donations in the past couple of years, and the need for feeding at the
public trough has passed. One such donation was more than their entire
budget for a few years.


How about listening to NPR for at least a week while you take some notes
on the stories you think are examples of a liberal point of view. Then
we'll have something tangible to discuss on the subject of NPR and
liberalism. Otherwise it's just one more opinion on NPR without
documentation.


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