= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
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From: (RHF)

If you are going to Question "The Facts" MWB.
Then 'present' "The Facts" in their Entirety.


Maybe you should present YOUR facts in entirety. What percentage of NPR funding
comes from the government, RHF?

http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]
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Here's NPR's current stories their working on.
Why don't you tell all of us bigoted educators which ones
represent propaganda from the OWLES ?
http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html

MWB - So 'now' You Do Admit In Your Own Words To Being A "bigoted educator".
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NOTE: That the majority of Clear Channel's Programming is Music.
http://www.clearchannel.com/



Duh. I was talking about Clear Channel AM stations.
And you provide a statistic that lumps their AM & FM content together.

MWB - The very simple and honest 'fact' is that:

The Spoken Word - Is The Spoken Word [.]

Be It Spoken On AM Radio and/or FM Radio.
[ Or that matter Shortwave Radio. ]

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]


MWB - If We are ONLY 'taking' about "Clear Channel's AM Talk Radio"

Out of about 13,500 Total Radio Stations:
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/totals/bt031231.html

AM RADIO = 4794
FM RADIO = 6217
FM EDUCATIONAL = 2552 {NPR&PRI = Liberal Left Propaganda ~ 19%}
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TOTAL 13563 (Clear Channel 600 {50% AM} ~ 4.5%)

The Liberal-Left has a 19% to 4.5% (4:1) "Advantage Over"
the Conservative-Right in Media Ownership.
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I know you are a better arguer than this.
Please try harder.

MWB - Just Trying To Make It Easy Enought . . .
So You Can Still Stay In The Game )


Just the facts.

MWB - The Facts Speak For Themselves ~ RHF
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Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
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From: (RHF)

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]
.

No, you don't understand, RHF. You think you do, but you don't. And you
continue to ignore the facts. The URLs I provided showed that only 2% of NPR
funding comes from the government and that it's a very small fraction of
"Billions of Dollars." You didn't even read them, did you?

Now, you make it sound that Clear Channel is just a shining example of
effective free enterprise capitalism. Hardly. Check out the sites for the real
facts of how Clear Channel's patronage and donations to Bush have been turned
into special advantages:

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/04/18_clear.html

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/radiogaga.html

Now, take the time to read them.





.

Here's NPR's current stories their working on.
Why don't you tell all of us bigoted educators which ones
represent propaganda from the OWLES ?
http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html

You didn't even attempt to point out which current NPR stories are part of the
leftist propaganda machine.



MWB - So 'now' You Do Admit In Your Own Words To Being A "bigoted educator".
.

Nope. I was mocking you calling anyone on the other side of the political
spectrum bigoted.

NOTE: That the majority of Clear Channel's Programming is Music.
http://www.clearchannel.com/


Yes, 50% of Clear Channel stations are FM. Most FM stations above the
educational basement of the FM band are music stations.

The vast majority of CC's AM channels are consertive talk stations. That's what
I claimed in the first place.

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]


Thanks for repeating that visual poetry. I guess someone could've missed it as
many times as you've repeated it.

TOTAL 13563 (Clear Channel 600 {50% AM} ~ 4.5%)

The Liberal-Left has a 19% to 4.5% (4:1) "Advantage Over"
the Conservative-Right in Media Ownership.

Your assumption is that ALL stations not owned by Clear Channel are, by
default, part of the liberal-left. Can you possibly back that up with any
additional documentation?

RHF, you're making it too easy.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

In article ,
ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote:

From: (RHF)

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]
.

No, you don't understand, RHF. You think you do, but you don't. And you
continue to ignore the facts. The URLs I provided showed that only 2% of NPR
funding comes from the government and that it's a very small fraction of
"Billions of Dollars." You didn't even read them, did you?

Now, you make it sound that Clear Channel is just a shining example of
effective free enterprise capitalism. Hardly. Check out the sites for the real
facts of how Clear Channel's patronage and donations to Bush have been turned
into special advantages:

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/04/18_clear.html

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/radiogaga.html

Now, take the time to read them.

Just to save you some time...

The first is a hate Bush site serving up BS with an attitude.

The second is, if it is a socialist idea it's good, if it is a
capitalistic idea it¹s bad. One word - Communists.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote:

From: (RHF)

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]
.

No, you don't understand, RHF. You think you do, but you don't. And you
continue to ignore the facts. The URLs I provided showed that only 2% of NPR
funding comes from the government and that it's a very small fraction of
"Billions of Dollars." You didn't even read them, did you?

Now, you make it sound that Clear Channel is just a shining example of
effective free enterprise capitalism. Hardly. Check out the sites for the real
facts of how Clear Channel's patronage and donations to Bush have been turned
into special advantages:

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/04/18_clear.html

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/radiogaga.html

Now, take the time to read them.

Just to save you some time...

The first is a hate Bush site serving up BS with an attitude.

The second is, if it is a socialist idea it's good, if it is a
capitalistic idea it¹s bad. One word - Communists.

Can it be true? The liberals tied into socialism? Communism?

Perhaps our 'left wing educator' Michael Bryant can explain it to us.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ...

From: (RHF)

MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]
.

The Tax Advantages of these "Foundations" ARE Corporate America.

The Systems of Power and Control ARE the Means of Media Manipulation.
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No, you don't understand, RHF. You think you do, but you don't.
And you continue to ignore the facts.

Well 'we' all know what sanitized information is published by the
Government and 'quasi' government entities like NPR, PRI and PBS.
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The URLs I provided showed that only 2% of NPR funding comes
from the government and that it's a very small fraction of
"Billions of Dollars." You didn't even read them, did you?

"Such grants are awarded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting,
the National Science Foundation, and the National Endowments
for the Arts and the Humanities, and typically represent only
2% of total."

And these are more 'quasi' government entities:
THE Corporation for Public Broadcasting
THE National Science Foundation
THE National Endowments for the Arts and the Humanities

The "Ying and Yang" of [The Secret] Government.
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Now, you make it sound that Clear Channel is just a
shining example of effective free enterprise capitalism.

MWB - Did I make that 'claim' NO !

Hardly. Check out the sites for the real facts of how
Clear Channel's patronage and donations to Bush have
been turned into special advantages:

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/04/18_clear.html

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/radiogaga.html

MWB - I would not take the time to read an EXTREAMIST Neo-Nazi,
White Supremist, or Islam-O-Fascist Website.

So then why would I want to read an Equally Absurb Ultra-Liberal
Left-Wing website like you have CITED as EVIDENCE.

* One Thing is Crystal Clear:
Clear Channel is a Subsidiary of Bush, Inc
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/04/18_clear.html

* Here are the 'connections' between CLEAR CHANNEL and
the BUSH FAMILY.
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/radiogaga.html
NOTE: Take Back The Media is a cooperative project by 'progressive'
American Citizens. [TRANSLATION: 'progressive' = Ultra-Liberal]

MWB - When you Cite websites like these as "Proof". I have to
start questioning either your Academic Qualifications or your
Educational Integrity for the presentation of an Un-Biased and
an Objective View Point for an Honest Discussion by Rational
People of Reasonable Intelligence.
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Now, take the time to read them.

MWB - I Shall Decline You Offer.

FWIW: When I Listen to Coast-to-Coast AM, Dreamland and other programs.
I do so for their Entertainment Value; and thus can maintain
my Objectivity while seeking out some kernel-of-truth or small
basis-of-fact.

MWB - Are You Loosing? Have You Lost? - Your Objectivity?
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.

Here's NPR's current stories their working on.
Why don't you tell all of us bigoted educators which ones
represent propaganda from the OWLES ?
http://www.npr.org/about/place/corps...inancials.html

You didn't even attempt to point out which current NPR stories are part of the
leftist propaganda machine.



MWB - So 'now' You Do Admit In Your Own Words To Being A "bigoted educator".
.

Nope. I was mocking you calling anyone on the other side of the political
spectrum bigoted.


I will repeat something that is often said:
Good People Can Disagree on Important Issues…
- A Discussion Will Be Had
- A Decision Will Be Made
and these Good People will continue
to work together for their common good.

The Problem with the Liberal Left is that they do not see
the Conservative Right as Good People. The Liberal Left has
a major precetual problem in that they view the Conservative
Right as both Bad and Evil; which translates into the HATE of
the Convervative Right by the Liberal Left. Yes "HATE" does
exist in America Today and it is the Single Minded HATE of the
Liberal Left for the Conservative Right.

There is no clearer 'proof' of this HATE by the Liberal Left
for the Conservative Right; then John 'f' Kerry's "Open Mic"
Comments that were recently broadcast and published.
http://news.bostonherald.com/nationa...articleid=1347.


NOTE: That the majority of Clear Channel's Programming is Music.
http://www.clearchannel.com/


Yes, 50% of Clear Channel stations are FM. Most FM stations above the
educational basement of the FM band are music stations.

The vast majority of CC's AM channels are consertive talk stations. That's what
I claimed in the first place.

MWB - But you paint a picture of Clear Channel as being the
Dominant Voice (50%+) of the Total AM Radios Stations.
However a simple and very honest look at the numbers clearly shows
that at best using 100% of its AM Radio Stations Clear Channel
could only add up to about 5% maximum.

MWB - No one disputes that market forces produce a diversity of
content in the area of musically entertainment that is offered
on both AM and FM Radio.

MWB - You or I may not like the majority of what is being played.
But between the Stations, Advertisers and the Listeners the Market
Dynamics Decide on what gets played on the Air.

MWB - Then Why Does the Liberal-Left 'question' these same
Marketing Dynamics when it comes to "AM" Talk Radio. 'ibtm'
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MWB, The Classic Bigotry and Self-Righteous-Bias of the Liberal-Left:

BAD - Capitalist Corporate Advertising (AM Radio & Clear Channel)

GOOD - Tax Free Foundations Sponsership (FM Radio, NPR, PRI and PBS)
[ TAX FREE and Charitable Contributions = In-Direct Government
Support woth Billions of Dollars. ]


Thanks for repeating that visual poetry. I guess someone
could've missed it as many times as you've repeated it.

Every Run a Stop Sign . . .
after You Know, That You Know, That You Saw It )
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TOTAL 13563 (Clear Channel 600 {50% AM} ~ 4.5%)

The Liberal-Left has a 19% to 4.5% (4:1) "Advantage Over"
the Conservative-Right in Media Ownership.

Your assumption is that ALL stations not owned by Clear Channel are, by
default, part of the liberal-left. Can you possibly back that up with any
additional documentation?

MWB - Did I Say That - NOT !

One Understand for the FCC Data that: FM EDUCATIONAL = 2552
out of a TOTAL = 13563 {NPR&PRI = Liberal Propaganda ~ 19%}

MWB - Lets Stick To The Facts )
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RHF, you're making it too easy.

MWB - Your Life Is Always 'easier' When You 'ENJOY" What You Do ;-)


fir... RHF
= For I Remain... RHF [.]
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Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

From: (RHF)

MWB - When you Cite websites like these as "Proof". I have to
start questioning either your Academic Qualifications or your
Educational Integrity for the presentation of an Un-Biased and
an Objective View Point for an Honest Discussion by Rational
People of Reasonable Intelligence.


In other words, only right-wing sources are acceptable. Rather than labeling
these sources leftist, why don't you attempt to disprove a single fact in them.
But, that clearly seems beyond your limited capabilities.

Now, take the time to read them.

MWB - I Shall Decline You Offer.

Yep, just as I expected. You won't risk your conservatively-pure mind being
contaminated by facts you can't answer.

The rest of your drivel deserves no response. If you really believe that the
predominant hate force in America is liberals, why do the conservatives,
yourself included, spread so much hate in this very newsgroup.

Ooopps, I forgot. That would require objectivity on your part and you seem to
lack that ability.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

Michael 'I'm a Fabricator' Bryant wrote:

From: (RHF)

MWB - When you Cite websites like these as "Proof". I have to
start questioning either your Academic Qualifications or your
Educational Integrity for the presentation of an Un-Biased and
an Objective View Point for an Honest Discussion by Rational
People of Reasonable Intelligence.


In other words, only right-wing sources are acceptable. Rather than labeling
these sources leftist, why don't you attempt to disprove a single fact in them.
But, that clearly seems beyond your limited capabilities.

Now, take the time to read them.

MWB - I Shall Decline You Offer.

Yep, just as I expected. You won't risk your conservatively-pure mind being
contaminated by facts you can't answer.

He did provide you with facts Fat Boy. Obviously more facts than your left leaning
brain can handle.

The rest of your drivel deserves no response. If you really believe that the
predominant hate force in America is liberals, why do the conservatives,
yourself included, spread so much hate in this very newsgroup.

Huh? Feel the love! We're just trying to correct your left leaning, outrageous
claim making, fabricating ways!

ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message ...
From: (RHF)

MWB - When you Cite websites like these as "Proof". I have to
start questioning either your Academic Qualifications or your
Educational Integrity for the presentation of an Un-Biased and
an Objective View Point for an Honest Discussion by Rational
People of Reasonable Intelligence.


In other words, only right-wing sources are acceptable. Rather than labeling
these sources leftist, why don't you attempt to disprove a single fact in them.
But, that clearly seems beyond your limited capabilities.


MWB,

I would not stick my head in Hitlers Toilet Bowl and
therefore, I would NOT stick my head in Stalins Toilet Bowl.

These websites are simply internet toilet bowls.
[ Would You Expect Me to Try Suicide - On Your Recommendation. ]
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..
Now, take the time to read them.

MWB - I Shall Decline You Offer.

Yep, just as I expected. You won't risk your conservatively-pure mind being
contaminated by facts you can't answer.

The rest of your drivel deserves no response. If you really believe that the
predominant hate force in America is liberals, why do the conservatives,
yourself included, spread so much hate in this very newsgroup.

Ooopps, I forgot. That would require objectivity on your part and you seem to
lack that ability.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)


MWB - At Each Point in One of Own little 'debates' when you start
Name Calling and can no long deal with the Facts and Issues.

I must simply conclude: You Lose. -&- i win, I Win. I WIN !
..
Dear Friends and Neighbors of the Rec.Radio.Shortwave NewsGroup:
This Series of the MWB & RHF 'tit-4-tat' Show is over )
But Wait.... a 'new' show has already begun ;-}
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~ RHF
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