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Brian Hill March 28th 04 05:43 PM

Read and Weep, The Truth Lies Here
 
Right on! Burr! Good points.

Brian

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Michael Bryant March 28th 04 07:55 PM

From: N8KDV

We waited for twelve years Fat Boy... better go study up!


Excellent point, Steve! Now, carefully detail how waiting a few more months
before invading would've hurt. Remember, the administration's answer was the
immediate threat of WMDs....

You've constantly lambasted my integrity, Steve. Why do you not require the
same integrity for your political heroes?


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N8KDV March 28th 04 08:00 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV


We waited for twelve years Fat Boy... better go study up!


Excellent point, Steve! Now, carefully detail how waiting a few more months
before invading would've hurt. Remember, the administration's answer was the
immediate threat of WMDs....

You've constantly lambasted my integrity, Steve. Why do you not require the
same integrity for your political heroes?


You must be the dumbest piece of **** on the planet boy.




Michael Bryant March 28th 04 08:02 PM

From: "Brian Hill"

I could care less about a BJ. but that Nuke/China crap ****ed me off!



OK, let's talk Chinese appeasement. What has GW done to stand up against the
Chinese shooting down our spy plane? Did you know that GW has implemented more
joint military liasons with the Chinese? What did GW do when the Chinese
recently re-asserted their claims to Taiwan? Did you know that GW's new Job
Creation czar is in China building a factory? Why does GW still support Chinese
inclusion in WTO, despite linkages to nuclear proliferation in Pakistan, Iran
and Libya?

You Republicans are blind to the fact that Bush is caving into China in the
hopes of securing preferntial trade agreements that will no doubt export more
US jobs to the PRC.

Wow. It does boggle.


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Michael Bryant March 28th 04 08:05 PM

From: N8KDV



We waited for twelve years Fat Boy... better go study up!


Excellent point, Steve! Now, carefully detail how waiting a few more months
before invading would've hurt. Remember, the administration's answer was

the
immediate threat of WMDs....

You've constantly lambasted my integrity, Steve. Why do you not require the
same integrity for your political heroes?


You must be the dumbest piece of **** on the planet boy.


Thanks, Steve. That sounds like an admission that you can't detail why waiting
a few months would've mattered.

I guess I beached the Snot!


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N8KDV March 28th 04 08:10 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV




We waited for twelve years Fat Boy... better go study up!


Excellent point, Steve! Now, carefully detail how waiting a few more months
before invading would've hurt. Remember, the administration's answer was

the
immediate threat of WMDs....

You've constantly lambasted my integrity, Steve. Why do you not require the
same integrity for your political heroes?


You must be the dumbest piece of **** on the planet boy.


Thanks, Steve. That sounds like an admission that you can't detail why waiting
a few months would've mattered.


Learn to read Fat Boy! That was not an admission of anything! It was an
observation! Allow me to make the observation again: You must be the dumbest piece
of **** on the planet boy!



Tracy Fort March 28th 04 08:11 PM

On 28 Mar 2004 18:55:06 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

From: N8KDV


We waited for twelve years Fat Boy... better go study up!


Excellent point, Steve! Now, carefully detail how waiting a few more months
before invading would've hurt. Remember, the administration's answer was the
immediate threat of WMDs....

You've constantly lambasted my integrity, Steve. Why do you not require the
same integrity for your political heroes?


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Because he knows that you never had or never will have any
integrity!

Tracy

N8KDV March 28th 04 08:13 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV




We waited for twelve years Fat Boy... better go study up!


Excellent point, Steve! Now, carefully detail how waiting a few more months
before invading would've hurt. Remember, the administration's answer was

the
immediate threat of WMDs....

You've constantly lambasted my integrity, Steve. Why do you not require the
same integrity for your political heroes?


You must be the dumbest piece of **** on the planet boy.


Thanks, Steve. That sounds like an admission that you can't detail why waiting
a few months would've mattered.


YOU can't detail why NOT waiting a few months would have mattered!

I beached a piece of ****!



Michael Bryant March 28th 04 08:17 PM

From: Tracy Fort

MWB:

You've constantly lambasted my integrity, Steve. Why do you not require the
same integrity for your political heroes?


Because he knows that you never had or never will have any
integrity!


OK, Tracy. But the question isn't my integrity. The question is the Bush
administration's integrity. And no lapse of integrity on my part ever killed
tens of thousands of people that zero to do with 9/11. And I'm not running for
President!!

If you're going to play, try to rise above the bar set by Steve/Snot.


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Brian Hill March 28th 04 08:18 PM


"Michael Bryant"

Thanks, Steve. That sounds like an admission that you can't detail why

waiting
a few months would've mattered.


Hined sight is 20/20 Michael and I don't think anybody really believes it
would have been a bad idea to wait. I'm sure GW ponders that daily, but
sometimes you just have to make a desicion whether its popular or not.



N8KDV March 28th 04 08:22 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: Tracy Fort


MWB:

You've constantly lambasted my integrity, Steve. Why do you not require the
same integrity for your political heroes?


Because he knows that you never had or never will have any
integrity!


OK, Tracy. But the question isn't my integrity. The question is the Bush
administration's integrity. And no lapse of integrity on my part ever killed
tens of thousands of people that zero to do with 9/11. And I'm not running for
President!!

If you're going to play, try to rise above the bar set by Steve/Snot.


The bar has to be set low for you Fat Boy, otherwise you'd never make it over!

These are the Big Leagues Fat Boy, not the Special Olympics of Debate!



Brian Hill March 28th 04 08:23 PM


"N8KDV" wrote in message

We did have the support of our allies Fat Boy.... But I know, they just

weren't the
right allies were they Fat Boy.

Excuses, excuses, excuses, that's all the left cabn come up with!



Ditto!



Michael Bryant March 28th 04 08:24 PM

From: N8KDV

YOU can't detail why NOT waiting a few months would have mattered!


I already advanced a claim, which is more than you've done. To recap: Waiting a
few more months would've allowed us to find out that there were no WMDs or, if
they were found, our NATO allies would've gone it at our side as they did in
1991 under GH Bush.

BTW, I truly respect GH Bush. He's my idea of a decent Republican. He wasn't
perfect, but no one is. His son is an entirely different matter. A solid case
of replicative genetic fading....


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Michael Bryant March 28th 04 08:26 PM

From: Tracy Fort


Wasn't meant to be comparable! It shows that your boy Clinton was a
liar and it was proved. You can't call Bush a liar because nobody has
proven that WMD's don't exist.


LOL. It's obvious you've never studied logic!!


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N8KDV March 28th 04 08:29 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV


YOU can't detail why NOT waiting a few months would have mattered!


I already advanced a claim, which is more than you've done. To recap: Waiting a
few more months would've allowed us to find out that there were no WMDs or, if
they were found, our NATO allies would've gone it at our side as they did in
1991 under GH Bush.

BTW, I truly respect GH Bush. He's my idea of a decent Republican. He wasn't
perfect, but no one is. His son is an entirely different matter. A solid case
of replicative genetic fading....


You have experience with that genetic fading don't you Fat Boy?



N8KDV March 28th 04 08:30 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: Tracy Fort


Wasn't meant to be comparable! It shows that your boy Clinton was a
liar and it was proved. You can't call Bush a liar because nobody has
proven that WMD's don't exist.


LOL. It's obvious you've never studied logic!!


Yeah, we know you studied it! But did you pass? (Obviously not).



Tracy Fort March 28th 04 08:31 PM

On 28 Mar 2004 19:17:39 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

From: Tracy Fort


MWB:

You've constantly lambasted my integrity, Steve. Why do you not require the
same integrity for your political heroes?


Because he knows that you never had or never will have any
integrity!


OK, Tracy. But the question isn't my integrity. The question is the Bush
administration's integrity. And no lapse of integrity on my part ever killed
tens of thousands of people that zero to do with 9/11. And I'm not running for
President!!

If you're going to play, try to rise above the bar set by Steve/Snot.


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You brought your integrity into this....not me! You have no reason to
question Bush's integrity. You can't prove that anyone in Washington
lied can you? We can all prove that Clinton lied. Are you having a
problem understanding this?

Why do you propose we wait a few more months? What would it
prove? We should have went months earlier! We waited and waited. If we
would have kept waiting, we would still be waiting.



Tracy

Michael Bryant March 28th 04 08:31 PM

From: "Brian Hill"

Hined sight is 20/20 Michael and I don't think anybody really believes it
would have been a bad idea to wait. I'm sure GW ponders that daily, but
sometimes you just have to make a desicion whether its popular or not.



First, Brian, thank you for an attempting reasonable discourse and avoiding the
juvenile taunts and obscenities that are the only recourse of some others.

My problem is that waiting would've been good. I think we both see tyhqat. But
lying to us about an immediate WMD threat was a pretty big integrity lapse. One
that has resulted in tens of thousands of deaths. At that point, it transcends
any question of popularity.

Again, thank you for your demeanor. I know we disagree, but I respect your
opinions.




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Tracy Fort March 28th 04 08:34 PM

On 28 Mar 2004 19:24:55 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

From: N8KDV


YOU can't detail why NOT waiting a few months would have mattered!


I already advanced a claim, which is more than you've done. To recap: Waiting a
few more months would've allowed us to find out that there were no WMDs or, if
they were found, our NATO allies would've gone it at our side as they did in
1991 under GH Bush.

BTW, I truly respect GH Bush. He's my idea of a decent Republican. He wasn't
perfect, but no one is. His son is an entirely different matter. A solid case
of replicative genetic fading....


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Bull****! Those Europeans pussys would have never agreed. Also, If we
had waited a few more months, do you think Sadam would have changed
his mind and led us right to the WMD's? They were never any intentions
to cooperate on his part. More time would have served no one's purpose
but Sadam!

Tracy

Tracy Fort March 28th 04 08:35 PM

On 28 Mar 2004 19:26:25 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

From: Tracy Fort



Wasn't meant to be comparable! It shows that your boy Clinton was a
liar and it was proved. You can't call Bush a liar because nobody has
proven that WMD's don't exist.


LOL. It's obvious you've never studied logic!!


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Logic proves nothing in this case....It's obvious that you lack a
brain. Steve has proven that logically time after time!

Tracy

Michael Bryant March 28th 04 08:35 PM

From: Tracy Fort

You are comparing Apples to Oranges. What did we get out of Vietnam?
50000 dead men...and for what?


Great point, Tracy!

LBJ made up lies about the Tonkin Gulf incident to justify VN escalation. Seems
like both cases call out for us being very skeptical on presidents that attempt
to justify use of the military invasion before other options are fully
explored. We should also hold Presidents to a higher standard when they're
using that very conflict as reasons for re-election.

Wouldn't you agree, Tracy?


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N8KDV March 28th 04 08:36 PM



Tracy Fort wrote:

On 28 Mar 2004 19:17:39 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

From: Tracy Fort


MWB:

You've constantly lambasted my integrity, Steve. Why do you not require the
same integrity for your political heroes?


Because he knows that you never had or never will have any
integrity!


OK, Tracy. But the question isn't my integrity. The question is the Bush
administration's integrity. And no lapse of integrity on my part ever killed
tens of thousands of people that zero to do with 9/11. And I'm not running for
President!!

If you're going to play, try to rise above the bar set by Steve/Snot.


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You brought your integrity into this....not me! You have no reason to
question Bush's integrity. You can't prove that anyone in Washington
lied can you? We can all prove that Clinton lied. Are you having a
problem understanding this?

Why do you propose we wait a few more months? What would it
prove? We should have went months earlier! We waited and waited. If we
would have kept waiting, we would still be waiting.



Tracy


You hit the nail right on the head there!



N8KDV March 28th 04 08:42 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: Tracy Fort


You are comparing Apples to Oranges. What did we get out of Vietnam?
50000 dead men...and for what?


Great point, Tracy!

LBJ made up lies about the Tonkin Gulf incident to justify VN escalation. Seems
like both cases call out for us being very skeptical on presidents that attempt
to justify use of the military invasion before other options are fully
explored. We should also hold Presidents to a higher standard when they're
using that very conflict as reasons for re-election.


12 years is 12 years Fat Boy... how long should we have waited?

12 years and 1 month? 12 years and 2 months?

We waited far to long as it was!


Soames123 March 28th 04 09:00 PM

Go to Google
Type in " Miserable Failure "
;-)

http://clinton.senate.gov/




Tracy Fort March 28th 04 09:12 PM



Our military is the best in history, and is made up of some really
****ed off people that are going to throw Bush out in 2004,
hallelujah, praise the Lord.


Your military and mine must be 2 different ones. I talk to MY military
every night when I go to work. I have yet to find a Kerry supporter.

Tracy

Burr March 28th 04 09:23 PM

Steve, Don't get so strong with your statements!!!

That's just not the way Gentleman speck to each other.

I think you owe Mike a apology!!!

Please,

Burr


N8KDV March 28th 04 09:41 PM



Burr wrote:

Steve, Don't get so strong with your statements!!!

That's just not the way Gentleman speck to each other.

I think you owe Mike a apology!!!


An apology? For what? The large piece of excrement continues to email
me! He lies, he fabricates, he has mental issues. What can I say.



N8KDV March 28th 04 10:49 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

Your opinion, only. I think it would've taken Saddam (two Ds) quite some time
to wipe out as many as we did in the first 60 days.


With jackasses such as yourself Bryant we would have never fought the second world
war... the American Revolution, or a whole host of other things this country might
have been involved in in the fight for freedom.

You are a lucky inheritor of that freedom. You have the luxury today of sitting on
your extremely fat ass, exercising your jaw muscles and contributing very little to
America, and especially to its educational capabilities other than attempting to
instill your socialist ideals into those you ostensibly try to instruct.

It boggles the mind!



Michael Bryant March 28th 04 11:07 PM

From: N8KDV

You are a lucky inheritor of that freedom. You have the luxury today of
sitting on
your extremely fat ass, exercising your jaw muscles and contributing very
little to
America, and especially to its educational capabilities other than attempting
to
instill your socialist ideals into those you ostensibly try to instruct.


Thanks for proving that you, too, are a liar and a fabricator.


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N8KDV March 28th 04 11:09 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV


You are a lucky inheritor of that freedom. You have the luxury today of
sitting on
your extremely fat ass, exercising your jaw muscles and contributing very
little to
America, and especially to its educational capabilities other than attempting
to
instill your socialist ideals into those you ostensibly try to instruct.


Thanks for proving that you, too, are a liar and a fabricator.


Can you document that Fat Boy? LOL!



N8KDV March 28th 04 11:12 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV


You are a lucky inheritor of that freedom. You have the luxury today of
sitting on
your extremely fat ass, exercising your jaw muscles and contributing very
little to
America, and especially to its educational capabilities other than attempting
to
instill your socialist ideals into those you ostensibly try to instruct.


Thanks for proving that you, too, are a liar and a fabricator.


The only thing that's been proven today is that the Fat Boy knows how to email me!

Get your mental house in order you worthless fat piece of ****!



Michael Bryant March 28th 04 11:16 PM

From: N8KDV

The only thing that's been proven today is that the Fat Boy knows how to
email me!

Get your mental house in order you worthless fat piece of ****!


Keep it up, it's all being recorded for posterity. And for future judicial
proceedings.


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N8KDV March 28th 04 11:21 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV


The only thing that's been proven today is that the Fat Boy knows how to
email me!

Get your mental house in order you worthless fat piece of ****!


Keep it up, it's all being recorded for posterity. And for future judicial
proceedings.


Yeah right Fat Boy! More petty threats from the Master himself.

How many times have I heard your crap anyway?

Haul your other fat ass lawyer relatives off the couch and send 'em to the
courthouse! I'm sure there is a Judge in Kentucky who needs another good
laugh!


Michael Bryant March 28th 04 11:27 PM

From: N8KDV

How many times have I heard your crap anyway?

Haul your other fat ass lawyer relatives off the couch and send 'em to the
courthouse! I'm sure there is a Judge in Kentucky who needs another good
laugh!


Actually, you were the one promising a judicially-ordered EPO against me!
Memory fading?

Your posts will provide an excellent defense.


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Dan March 28th 04 11:30 PM

In article ,
ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote:

Keep it up, it's all being recorded for posterity. And for future judicial
proceedings.


Everything is automatically recorded by Google. But you're smart
enough to know that already, right?

As for "future judicial proceedings", good luck with that! What are
you going to do, file suit because someone on usenet said you were fat?

Dan

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Michael Bryant March 28th 04 11:38 PM

From: Dan

Everything is automatically recorded by Google. But you're smart
enough to know that already, right?


Sure. Google does have some flaws, though. It is possible to have posts
removed.


As for "future judicial proceedings", good luck with that! What are
you going to do, file suit because someone on usenet said you were fat?

Dan


No, Steve's threatened an EPO against me. This should help if he ever has the
integrity to carry out his threat!

Me being overweight seems like a far smaller handicap than those Steve is
struggling with.


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Brian Hill March 28th 04 11:48 PM

Stinger I'm glad you have a strong typing finger. Do you think they'll get
it?

Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop.
Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This
is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop-heart. Make the ******* chase you.
He will follow.

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Stinger March 28th 04 11:53 PM

Nah. But I just couldn't resist.

-- Stinger


"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...
Stinger I'm glad you have a strong typing finger. Do you think they'll get
it?

Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic

cop.
Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This
is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop-heart. Make the ******* chase

you.
He will follow.

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/





N8KDV March 28th 04 11:56 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV


How many times have I heard your crap anyway?

Haul your other fat ass lawyer relatives off the couch and send 'em to the
courthouse! I'm sure there is a Judge in Kentucky who needs another good
laugh!


Actually, you were the one promising a judicially-ordered EPO against me!
Memory fading?


It's a PPO Fat Boy! Not an EPO!

Your posts will provide an excellent defense.


There is NO DEFENSE for willingly sending unsolicited email Fat Boy! Wake up
one of your fat lawyer relatives and talk to them about it!



N8KDV March 29th 04 12:00 AM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: Dan


Everything is automatically recorded by Google. But you're smart
enough to know that already, right?


Sure. Google does have some flaws, though. It is possible to have posts
removed.

As for "future judicial proceedings", good luck with that! What are
you going to do, file suit because someone on usenet said you were fat?

Dan


No, Steve's threatened an EPO against me. This should help if he ever has the
integrity to carry out his threat!


It's a PPO Fat Boy... Memory failing you again? Pot will do that to you!

Makes your breasts grow too! 43 DDD these days?




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