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AFRTS Pearl Harbour
10320 Khz AFRTS Pearl Harbour received at this QTH @ 0500 Zulu with clear
ID. Quite unusual, as this 3 Kw TX is 18,500 kilometers from here (11,500 miles) and both the short and long path lies over the poles and the auroral belt. At this time of the year the signal gets a greyline boost, as it is sunset in Hawaii and sunrise in Montagu. -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop |
10320 Khz AFRTS Pearl Harbour received at this QTH @ 0500 Zulu with clear
ID. Quite unusual, as this 3 Kw TX is 18,500 kilometers from here (11,500 miles) and both the short and long path lies over the poles and the auroral belt. At this time of the year the signal gets a greyline boost, as it is sunset in Hawaii and sunrise in Montagu. -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop That's a heckuva catch huh? I catch that at my QTH in Cincinnati, Ohio.....matter of fact I posted that in the last week. What receiver/receivers did you use and what antenna John? I wonder how far that is for me. {?} ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
"GO BEARCATS" wrote...
I wonder how far that is for me. {?} Try http://www.indo.com/distance Honolulu to Cincinnati 4434 miles (7137 km) |
John Plimmer wrote: 10320 Khz AFRTS Pearl Harbour received at this QTH @ 0500 Zulu with clear ID. Quite unusual, as this 3 Kw TX is 18,500 kilometers from here (11,500 miles) and both the short and long path lies over the poles and the auroral belt. At this time of the year the signal gets a greyline boost, as it is sunset in Hawaii and sunrise in Montagu. Currently being heard here at 1320 on 10320. About S5 on the R8B. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop |
John Plimmer wrote: 10320 Khz AFRTS Pearl Harbour received at this QTH @ 0500 Zulu with clear ID. Quite unusual, as this 3 Kw TX is 18,500 kilometers from here (11,500 miles) and both the short and long path lies over the poles and the auroral belt. At this time of the year the signal gets a greyline boost, as it is sunset in Hawaii and sunrise in Montagu. Are you able to hear AFN on 12579 or 4319 from Diego Garcia? Are they still active on either of those two frequencies? I've not seen any reports of them there for a very long time. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
RX is disconnected at the moment due to severe tropical thunderstorms.
Previously tried all the AFRTS frequencies but have not had Garcia. Sometimes get Guam Will check again when conditions improve and let you know. -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop "N8KDV" wrote in message ... John Plimmer wrote: 10320 Khz AFRTS Pearl Harbour received at this QTH @ 0500 Zulu with clear ID. Quite unusual, as this 3 Kw TX is 18,500 kilometers from here (11,500 miles) and both the short and long path lies over the poles and the auroral belt. At this time of the year the signal gets a greyline boost, as it is sunset in Hawaii and sunrise in Montagu. Are you able to hear AFN on 12579 or 4319 from Diego Garcia? Are they still active on either of those two frequencies? I've not seen any reports of them there for a very long time. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
Thanks for that
RX is Drake R8B and antenna is RF Systems DX1 Pro Also got a 250 watt MW station Radio Jacuipe, Bahia, Brazil, on my Kiwa MW Loop. That was 3,800 miles from the DX QTH -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop That's a heckuva catch huh? I catch that at my QTH in Cincinnati, Ohio.....matter of fact I posted that in the last week. What receiver/receivers did you use and what antenna John? I wonder how far that is for me. {?} ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
John Plimmer wrote: RX is disconnected at the moment due to severe tropical thunderstorms. Previously tried all the AFRTS frequencies but have not had Garcia. Sometimes get Guam Will check again when conditions improve and let you know. Thanks! |
I can "Never" get ANY AFRTS
Burp N8KDV wrote: John Plimmer wrote: RX is disconnected at the moment due to severe tropical thunderstorms. Previously tried all the AFRTS frequencies but have not had Garcia. Sometimes get Guam Will check again when conditions improve and let you know. Thanks! |
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So, send me some freq.'s and times and I'll see what I get. (Please)
Burr #6 Telamon wrote: AFRTS is mostly on USB. You won't hear it on AM. You live 60 miles to the south of me and I get it daily on several frequencies. Hawaii should be a piece of cake for you |
Try http://www.indo.com/distance
Honolulu to Cincinnati 4434 miles (7137 km) Thanks for the link sanjaya, I appreciate it. ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
Also got a 250 watt MW station Radio Jacuipe, Bahia, Brazil, on my Kiwa MW
Loop. That was 3,800 miles from the DX QTH I've read some great things about that Kiwa MW Loop, isn't that the pretty expensive antenna? Like $250-320? ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
Yes the Kiwa MW Loop is astonishingly effective. Often beats a well placed
1000 foot beverage. It is now discontinued, but I think it last sold new for $350. Now regularly sells used for $700 plus on eBay -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop "GO BEARCATS" wrote in message ... Also got a 250 watt MW station Radio Jacuipe, Bahia, Brazil, on my Kiwa MW Loop. That was 3,800 miles from the DX QTH I've read some great things about that Kiwa MW Loop, isn't that the pretty expensive antenna? Like $250-320? ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
Burr wrote: So, send me some freq.'s and times and I'll see what I get. (Please) The sked is he http://myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/radio/shortwave/ Remember that the day and night indications are for the transmitter site itself, not necessarily for your receiving location. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
It's 7:45 here and I'm trying both day and night from Hawaii, Nothing!!!
Here a bump from time to time. I am 85 miles inland at the Ont. airport. I am using my Sony AN1 with my YB 400. I also tried these freq.'s at home on the Sat 800 and the Drake SW8 using a long wire. So far, I just can't get them. |
Burr wrote: It's 7:45 here and I'm trying both day and night from Hawaii, Nothing!!! Here a bump from time to time. I am 85 miles inland at the Ont. airport. I am using my Sony AN1 with my YB 400. I also tried these freq.'s at home on the Sat 800 and the Drake SW8 using a long wire. So far, I just can't get them. I'm going to have to come out there and build you an antenna system Cuzz. Trouble is... I may not leave sunny California again! |
Come On Out.
Give you a nice business and wish you well, we got to keep it in the family. For Sure!!! Burr N8KDV wrote: Burr wrote: It's 7:45 here and I'm trying both day and night from Hawaii, Nothing!!! Here a bump from time to time. I am 85 miles inland at the Ont. airport. I am using my Sony AN1 with my YB 400. I also tried these freq.'s at home on the Sat 800 and the Drake SW8 using a long wire. So far, I just can't get them. I'm going to have to come out there and build you an antenna system Cuzz. Trouble is... I may not leave sunny California again! |
PS: Been raining three days, cold and damp.
Burr N8KDV wrote: Burr wrote: It's 7:45 here and I'm trying both day and night from Hawaii, Nothing!!! Here a bump from time to time. I am 85 miles inland at the Ont. airport. I am using my Sony AN1 with my YB 400. I also tried these freq.'s at home on the Sat 800 and the Drake SW8 using a long wire. So far, I just can't get them. I'm going to have to come out there and build you an antenna system Cuzz. Trouble is... I may not leave sunny California again! |
Burr wrote: Come On Out. Give you a nice business and wish you well, we got to keep it in the family. For Sure!!! I may just do that Burr... perhaps in a week or two. I need a road trip! |
It is now discontinued, but I think it last sold new for $350.
Now regularly sells used for $700 plus on eBay ouch!!!!!!!! ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
GO BEARCATS wrote: It is now discontinued, but I think it last sold new for $350. Now regularly sells used for $700 plus on eBay ouch!!!!!!!! I don't really understand that. As I recall the reason for stopping production was that he moved and could no longer get the PVC pipe required for manufacture. If you ask me, PVC pipe can be shipped anywhere, so supply shouldn't be a problem. If he'd care to contact me with the particulars, I might just start building the darn things here! There is obviously a market. |
BURR,
For AFRTS at 10.320 MHz from Hawaii. Try one of these two Antennas SLOPER: * Simple "Sloper" cut to about 97 Feet, that is 'Bottom Fed' with an angle of 30 Degrees and an Apex of about 48 Feet. * Position the "Sloper" so that the 'Slope of the Antenna' is facing in the direction of Hawaii. * Coax Cable Feed-in-Line with a Matching Transformer and Ground Rod at the Bottom Feed Point would help a lot. DIPOLE: * Simple "Dipole" cut to about 47.7 Feet, that is 'Center Fed' * Each Arm of the Dipole would be 23.8 Feet * Height of the Dipole between 23.8 to 47.7 Feet * Position the "Dipole" so that the 'Arms of the Dipole' are Perpendicular to the direction of Hawaii. (Broadside) * Coax Cable Feed-in-Line with a Balun and Ground Rod. iane ~ RHF .. .. = = = Burr wrote in message = = = ... It's 7:45 here and I'm trying both day and night from Hawaii, Nothing!!! Here a bump from time to time. I am 85 miles inland at the Ont. airport. I am using my Sony AN1 with my YB 400. I also tried these freq.'s at home on the Sat 800 and the Drake SW8 using a long wire. So far, I just can't get them. .. |
N8KDV,
Last I heard "CS" was working on a new Loop Antenna design that was based on a Ferrite Rod Core, vice an open Air Core Loop. ~ RHF .. .. = = = N8KDV wrote in message = = = ... GO BEARCATS wrote: It is now discontinued, but I think it last sold new for $350. Now regularly sells used for $700 plus on eBay ouch!!!!!!!! I don't really understand that. As I recall the reason for stopping production was that he moved and could no longer get the PVC pipe required for manufacture. If you ask me, PVC pipe can be shipped anywhere, so supply shouldn't be a problem. If he'd care to contact me with the particulars, I might just start building the darn things here! There is obviously a market. |
JP,
One of the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas just sold on eBay for only $426 with 18 Bidders. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3087601351 For more information on the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna goto: KIWA-MW-LOOP= http://www.kiwa.com/kiwaloop.html "Please Note: We have discontinued manufacturing the Kiwa MW Loop Antenna due to the unavailability of PVC pipe at our new location." hth ~ RHF .. .. = = = "John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Yes the Kiwa MW Loop is astonishingly effective. Often beats a well placed 1000 foot beverage. It is now discontinued, but I think it last sold new for $350. Now regularly sells used for $700 plus on eBay -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop "GO BEARCATS" wrote in message ... Also got a 250 watt MW station Radio Jacuipe, Bahia, Brazil, on my Kiwa MW Loop. That was 3,800 miles from the DX QTH I've read some great things about that Kiwa MW Loop, isn't that the pretty expensive antenna? Like $250-320? ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
FO&A,
In-the-News: For Sale (FS) / For Auction (FA) "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna" is currently listed on eBay. Item # 3090264887 Please Note: That this is not my Auction. SEARCH = Consumer Electronics : Radios : CB/HAM/Shortwave for 'kiwa' KIWA= http://tinyurl.com/2fcqq fyi ~ RHF .. .. = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... JP, One of the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas just sold on eBay for only $426 with 18 Bidders. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3087601351 For more information on the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna goto: KIWA-MW-LOOP= http://www.kiwa.com/kiwaloop.html "Please Note: We have discontinued manufacturing the Kiwa MW Loop Antenna due to the unavailability of PVC pipe at our new location." hth ~ RHF . . = = = "John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Yes the Kiwa MW Loop is astonishingly effective. Often beats a well placed 1000 foot beverage. It is now discontinued, but I think it last sold new for $350. Now regularly sells used for $700 plus on eBay -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop "GO BEARCATS" wrote in message ... Also got a 250 watt MW station Radio Jacuipe, Bahia, Brazil, on my Kiwa MW Loop. That was 3,800 miles from the DX QTH I've read some great things about that Kiwa MW Loop, isn't that the pretty expensive antenna? Like $250-320? ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
FO&A,
Another Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna just sold on eBay for $430. Source eBay Auction # 3093937050 with 22 Bidders. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3093937050 ~ RHF .. .. = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... FO&A, In-the-News: For Sale (FS) / For Auction (FA) "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna" is currently listed on eBay. Item # 3090264887 Please Note: That this is not my Auction. SEARCH = Consumer Electronics : Radios : CB/HAM/Shortwave for 'kiwa' KIWA= http://tinyurl.com/2fcqq fyi ~ RHF . . = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... JP, One of the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas just sold on eBay for only $426 with 18 Bidders. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3087601351 For more information on the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna goto: KIWA-MW-LOOP= http://www.kiwa.com/kiwaloop.html "Please Note: We have discontinued manufacturing the Kiwa MW Loop Antenna due to the unavailability of PVC pipe at our new location." hth ~ RHF . . = = = "John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Yes the Kiwa MW Loop is astonishingly effective. Often beats a well placed 1000 foot beverage. It is now discontinued, but I think it last sold new for $350. Now regularly sells used for $700 plus on eBay -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop "GO BEARCATS" wrote in message ... Also got a 250 watt MW station Radio Jacuipe, Bahia, Brazil, on my Kiwa MW Loop. That was 3,800 miles from the DX QTH I've read some great things about that Kiwa MW Loop, isn't that the pretty expensive antenna? Like $250-320? ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
RHF wrote:
FO&A, Another Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna just sold on eBay for $430. That's reasonable assuming it's working (no reason it wouldn't be that I know of). They work about as well as you can get a single loop to work, balanced and aimable to a fine degree, stable regeneration to narrow the bandwidth. For about $600 you can set up two active whips and an ANC-4 and do better than a single loop (or set up a whip and an active broadband loop with an ANC-4, so they can be co-located). So that would be an upper limit on what the Kiwa might bring, but below that it would still make sense. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
FO&A,
Another "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna" is for Auction on eBay Item Number 3095847397 with a Starting Bid is $295. [ Closes 16 Mayo 2004 @ 16:34 PDT ] fyi ~ RHF .. .. = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... FO&A, Another Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna just sold on eBay for $430. Source eBay Auction # 3093937050 with 22 Bidders. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3093937050 ~ RHF . . = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... FO&A, In-the-News: For Sale (FS) / For Auction (FA) "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna" is currently listed on eBay. Item # 3090264887 Please Note: That this is not my Auction. SEARCH = Consumer Electronics : Radios : CB/HAM/Shortwave for 'kiwa' KIWA= http://tinyurl.com/2fcqq fyi ~ RHF . . = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... JP, One of the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas just sold on eBay for only $426 with 18 Bidders. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3087601351 For more information on the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna goto: KIWA-MW-LOOP= http://www.kiwa.com/kiwaloop.html "Please Note: We have discontinued manufacturing the Kiwa MW Loop Antenna due to the unavailability of PVC pipe at our new location." hth ~ RHF . . = = = "John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Yes the Kiwa MW Loop is astonishingly effective. Often beats a well placed 1000 foot beverage. It is now discontinued, but I think it last sold new for $350. Now regularly sells used for $700 plus on eBay -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop "GO BEARCATS" wrote in message ... Also got a 250 watt MW station Radio Jacuipe, Bahia, Brazil, on my Kiwa MW Loop. That was 3,800 miles from the DX QTH I've read some great things about that Kiwa MW Loop, isn't that the pretty expensive antenna? Like $250-320? ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
FO&A,
FYI - Two more "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas" are now available on eBay. eBay Auction Item # 5700077228 - Bidders: 8 - Opening Bid $193.61 - Closing On: 21 May 2004 at 14:59:57 PDT eBay Auction Item # 5700379822 - Bidders: "0" Zero ? ? ? - Current Bid: $295.00 - Closing On: 23 May 2004 18:06:42 PDT FWIW: This is just a "For Your Information" (FYI) Posting for those who are looking for one of these now 'discontinued' "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas". NOTE: These are NOT my eBay Auctions and I am NOT 'promoting' these items For Sale. ~ RHF .. .. = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... FO&A, Another Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna just sold on eBay for $430. Source eBay Auction # 3093937050 with 22 Bidders. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3093937050 ~ RHF . . = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... FO&A, In-the-News: For Sale (FS) / For Auction (FA) "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna" is currently listed on eBay. Item # 3090264887 Please Note: That this is not my Auction. SEARCH = Consumer Electronics : Radios : CB/HAM/Shortwave for 'kiwa' KIWA= http://tinyurl.com/2fcqq fyi ~ RHF . . = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... JP, One of the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas just sold on eBay for only $426 with 18 Bidders. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3087601351 For more information on the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna goto: KIWA-MW-LOOP= http://www.kiwa.com/kiwaloop.html "Please Note: We have discontinued manufacturing the Kiwa MW Loop Antenna due to the unavailability of PVC pipe at our new location." hth ~ RHF . . = = = "John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Yes the Kiwa MW Loop is astonishingly effective. Often beats a well placed 1000 foot beverage. It is now discontinued, but I think it last sold new for $350. Now regularly sells used for $700 plus on eBay -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop "GO BEARCATS" wrote in message ... Also got a 250 watt MW station Radio Jacuipe, Bahia, Brazil, on my Kiwa MW Loop. That was 3,800 miles from the DX QTH I've read some great things about that Kiwa MW Loop, isn't that the pretty expensive antenna? Like $250-320? ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
FO&A,
These Two "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas" both recently SOLD on eBay: Source eBay Auction # 5700077228 with 18 Bidders for $410 on 5/21/04. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5700077228 Source eBay Auction # 5700379822 with 11 Bidders for $585 on 5/23/04. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5700379822 FWIW: This is just a "For Your Information" (FYI) Posting for those who are looking for one of these now 'discontinued' "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas". NOTE: These are NOT my eBay Auctions and I am NOT 'promoting' these items For Sale. ~ RHF |
Yeah, they have good reviews. It would be great if we could see the circuit
diagram so we could homebrew them, perhaps the schematic is no longer a comany secret and they might let us have it? Richard "RHF" wrote in message m... FO&A, These Two "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas" both recently SOLD on eBay: Source eBay Auction # 5700077228 with 18 Bidders for $410 on 5/21/04. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5700077228 Source eBay Auction # 5700379822 with 11 Bidders for $585 on 5/23/04. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5700379822 FWIW: This is just a "For Your Information" (FYI) Posting for those who are looking for one of these now 'discontinued' "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas". NOTE: These are NOT my eBay Auctions and I am NOT 'promoting' these items For Sale. ~ RHF . . = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... FO&A, FYI - Two more "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas" are now available on eBay. eBay Auction Item # 5700077228 - Bidders: 8 - Opening Bid $193.61 - Closing On: 21 May 2004 at 14:59:57 PDT eBay Auction Item # 5700379822 - Bidders: "0" Zero ? ? ? - Current Bid: $295.00 - Closing On: 23 May 2004 18:06:42 PDT FWIW: This is just a "For Your Information" (FYI) Posting for those who are looking for one of these now 'discontinued' "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas". NOTE: These are NOT my eBay Auctions and I am NOT 'promoting' these items For Sale. ~ RHF . . = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... FO&A, Another Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna just sold on eBay for $430. Source eBay Auction # 3093937050 with 22 Bidders. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3093937050 ~ RHF . . = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... FO&A, In-the-News: For Sale (FS) / For Auction (FA) "Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna" is currently listed on eBay. Item # 3090264887 Please Note: That this is not my Auction. SEARCH = Consumer Electronics : Radios : CB/HAM/Shortwave for 'kiwa' KIWA= http://tinyurl.com/2fcqq fyi ~ RHF . . = = = (RHF) wrote in message = = = . com... JP, One of the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antennas just sold on eBay for only $426 with 18 Bidders. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3087601351 For more information on the Kiwa MW Air-Core Loop Antenna goto: KIWA-MW-LOOP= http://www.kiwa.com/kiwaloop.html "Please Note: We have discontinued manufacturing the Kiwa MW Loop Antenna due to the unavailability of PVC pipe at our new location." hth ~ RHF . . = = = "John Plimmer" wrote in message ... Yes the Kiwa MW Loop is astonishingly effective. Often beats a well placed 1000 foot beverage. It is now discontinued, but I think it last sold new for $350. Now regularly sells used for $700 plus on eBay -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s. RX Drake R8B, SW8 BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop "GO BEARCATS" wrote in message ... Also got a 250 watt MW station Radio Jacuipe, Bahia, Brazil, on my Kiwa MW Loop. That was 3,800 miles from the DX QTH I've read some great things about that Kiwa MW Loop, isn't that the pretty expensive antenna? Like $250-320? ~*~*Monitoring The AirWaves~*~ *****GO BEARCATS***** Hammarlund HQ129X /Heathkit Q Multiplier Hammarlund HQ140X Multiple GE P-780's(GREAT BCB Radios) RCA Victor *Strato- World* RCA Victor RJC77W-K(Walnut Grain) 1942 Zenith Wave Magnet 6G 601M Cathedral/ Ross#2311/Rhapsody-MultiBand DX100/394/398/399/402 OMGS Transistor Eight/Realistic 12-1451 Henry Kloss Model One/Bell+Howell ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Alpha Delta DX Sloper 57ft. 600ft. 12AWG. (non-terminated) 120ft. 12 AWG Sloper 2 Radio Shack Loop Antennas Radio Shack Amplified Antenna 30X30 DiamondLoop(six section 830pf Cap) * Diamond Loop mounted to Lazy Susan TurnTable* |
Richard wrote:
Yeah, they have good reviews. It would be great if we could see the circuit diagram so we could homebrew them, perhaps the schematic is no longer a comany secret and they might let us have it? It's in the manual that comes with the loop. You're paying for mechanical construction as much as anything, which minizes the received electrical field, which in turn deepens the nulls; and gives you the ability to aim the thing with precision as well. The particular regen circuit is very stable in addition, which must be from selection of components. As I said once, you do better up around this price range feeding an ANC-4 with two antennas with some goodly separation; I use McKay Dymek DA100E's. If they're big antennas, there's no need for them to be active, I guess. A loop (eg. Wellbrook ALA1530) and a whip can be co-located and combined in an ANC-4 instead. The ANC-4 trick gives you a V shaped null that you sweep from one endfire to the other. In the case of the loop+whip, endfire is in the plane of the loop. At endfire both legs of the V coincide; at broadside they open to a line. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
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