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Dan April 6th 04 12:38 AM

In article ,
"Brian Hill" wrote:

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
Ultimately, there's a chance something wonderful may happen if the old

line
international broadcasters go away. The international broadcast bands

will
be nearly empty, and they won't be refilled any faster than the other
currently underutilixed SW bands. Hobby broadcasters could start
broadcasting, and the governments might not even care if there's no
international broadcasting to be interfered with.

Frank Dresser


You may have something there Frank. Lets hope. I cant see the short-wave
medium going away. There's always someone going to use it.


Good point. It may end up like CB. Unlicensed and uncared for,
because (relatively speaking) no one is listening.

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig Satellit 650, Satellit 700, YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)

Brian Hill April 6th 04 01:19 AM


"Dan" wrote in message news:me-

Good point. It may end up like CB. Unlicensed and uncared for,
because (relatively speaking) no one is listening.

Dan



Gee Dan. I hope it doesn't get that bad.


--
73 Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant
never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare
to die.

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/




Frank Dresser April 6th 04 01:43 AM


"Dan" wrote in message
...
In article ,

Good point. It may end up like CB. Unlicensed and uncared for,
because (relatively speaking) no one is listening.

Dan


That's about it. What would happen if the governments abandon the SW
broadcast bands? How much effort would the government agencies make
tracking down and prosecuting unlicensed broadcasters? Enforcement depends,
not only on the law, but on how many important toes get stepped on. I'll
guess they will have more important things to do with their time and budgets
unless the pirates interfere with the established broadcasters, TV, radio
amateurs or whatever.

I suppose they could even legitimize hobby SW broadcasting and charge a
reasonable licence fee. Treat the SW broadcast bands like a national park.

Frank Dresser



m II April 6th 04 02:12 AM

WShoots1 wrote:

Certainly shortwave broadcasting should continue to serve third world
countries.

I wish Venezuela had a government shortwave station on the air.


I think The States will be attacking there via Columbia very shortly.
Venezuela is the fifth largest producer of oil in the world. Bush is
trying to tie the Spain bombings to Venezuelan funding. With his record
of dishonesty, not many will believe him .



mike

m II April 6th 04 02:18 AM

Paul_Morphy wrote:

The Richard Clarke book is a case in point. Although it is selling well, it
is not changing many peoples' minds about the role of the government before
and after 9/11. People who were inclined to think the government failed find
support in the book, but people who think the government is doing a fine job
don't believe it.


The people who think the government is doing a fine job won't be buying
the book at all.



I do miss the old days, though. There was nothing so enervating as listening
to R. Tirana, when Albania hated everybody.



I used to think enervating meant something like invigorating, or
energizing. Then I found out it meant the OPPOSITE of what I thought...



mike

LewBob April 6th 04 02:46 AM

"B Banton" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:27:56 GMT, "LewBob"
wrote:

Our local Cable and PBS each carry BBC
and Deutsche Welle every evening. (digital cable
service carries BBCWorld 24/7) Shortwave is obsolete.
Unfortunatly.


Not entirely obsolete. Having recently visited Cuba (legally as a working
journalist), I listen to Radio Havana almost every night. Got a chance to
meet three of the folks working there during my stay in Havana.

Fascinating
country. Wonderful people. All they need is a little freedom and
opportunity.


Oh is that all. Just a "little freedom and opportunity".


I could go into considerable -- off topic -- discussion about the Cuban
people, but I will try to be concise.

Considering that Cuba is (and always has been) a Third World country, the
people are remarkably well educated, spirited and welcoming. They are
ingenious at making do with what they have and keeping mechanical things
working. They live under a totalitarian regime that suppresses all
opposition -- as best it can -- and the socialist system provides free
freedoms and little opportunity for advancement, therefore no incentives to
improve productivity and no hope of improving their lifestyles.

Restricted though they are, they manage to subsist at a higher level that
the average citizens in almost any other Third World country.

If Castro would allow them a few freedoms, e.go. to travel, to own, buy and
sell cars and property, to change jobs, I believe the Cuban people would
amaze a lot of onlookers with their abilities and passions.

Yeah, just a little freedom and opportunity.



grenner April 6th 04 02:58 AM

How does one forget the Radio Tirana interval signal titled

"With Pick Axe and Rifle"

Those were the shortwave days.

Greg
"Harris" wrote in message
...
Dan wrote:

Yeah. Radio Moscow on the old Cuba relay on 11840 calling us "running
dog capitalists" was fun. Now VOR has commercials!


Not to forget Radio Peking and Radio Tirana!

Art Harris




WShoots1 April 6th 04 06:22 AM

I think The States will be attacking there via Columbia very shortly.
Venezuela is the fifth largest producer of oil in the world.

Also, It's a member of OPEC and has the sweetest crude in the world.

But back to your statement: Regarding Haiti, Kerry is pro-democratic government

but, regarding Venezuela, he is anti-democratic government.The difference is
that Haiti has no oil.

Speaking of FM stations, Venezuela has them, but they are privately-owned. So,
Prez Chavez allows unlicensed pro-government stations to operate.

Which reminds me... The FCC is illegally controlling intRAstate radiation. But
the FCC has, as has the IRS, the guns.

Bill, K5BY

David April 6th 04 02:26 PM

Cops (especially narcs and detectives) have been using cellphones for
many years due to security issues.

The funny thing is Nextel may have to reconfigure their whole system
to make room for cop radios on 800.

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 16:01:46 -0400, "Corbin Ray"
wrote:

This is a time of change throughout the broadcasting industry. My local
small-town police force, who I thought would be broadcasting VHF forever,
skipped right by trunking, and now our entire town's communications is
handled through Nextel. As a former newsperson, this breaks my heart,
especially when I have several scanners that won't be a whole lot of use to
me from now on.



David April 6th 04 02:27 PM

The people who think the government is doing a good job aren't the
type who are likely to read anything.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 01:18:29 GMT, m II
wrote:

Paul_Morphy wrote:

The Richard Clarke book is a case in point. Although it is selling well, it
is not changing many peoples' minds about the role of the government before
and after 9/11. People who were inclined to think the government failed find
support in the book, but people who think the government is doing a fine job
don't believe it.


The people who think the government is doing a fine job won't be buying
the book at all.



I do miss the old days, though. There was nothing so enervating as listening
to R. Tirana, when Albania hated everybody.



I used to think enervating meant something like invigorating, or
energizing. Then I found out it meant the OPPOSITE of what I thought...



mike




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