Spielberg now filming The Crusades
 

Dave wrote:

Spielberg's Answer to Gibson's Passion: I'm Filming The Crusades

snipped the rest of an urban legend

This is a hoax.

See

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_spielberg_crusades.htm

Thought so . . .


In article , "Mark S. Holden"
writes:


Dave wrote:

Spielberg's Answer to Gibson's Passion: I'm Filming The Crusades

snipped the rest of an urban legend

This is a hoax.

See

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_spielberg_crusades.htm

Mark S. Holden wrote:

This is a hoax.

See

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_spielberg_crusades.htm

A movie like that would be REALLY detrimental to a certain GW Bush and
gang. Bush already called his invasion a Crusade. What a maroon.




mike

"m II" wrote in message
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Mark S. Holden wrote:

This is a hoax.

See

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_spielberg_crusades.htm

A movie like that would be REALLY detrimental to a certain GW Bush and
gang. Bush already called his invasion a Crusade. What a maroon.




mike

Its not stupid to call it a crusade. It just means to make a determined
attempt to achieve something which you believe in strongly.


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There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant
never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare
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"m II" wrote in message
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Mark S. Holden wrote:

This is a hoax.

See

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_spielberg_crusades.htm

A movie like that would be REALLY detrimental to a certain GW Bush and
gang. Bush already called his invasion a Crusade. What a maroon.



The Crusades, like the Inquistion, were among the darkest, most evil times
in all of Christendom, and were directly responsible for the Dark Ages. It
seems strange to me that before the Crusades, nearly all human knowledge was
concentrated in libraries built and maintained by Islam.. and Islam was the
far more civilised and forward-thinking... gotta wonder what happened..
maybe they are still REALLY ****ed about it??

Brian Hill wrote:

Its not stupid to call it a crusade. It just means to make a determined
attempt to achieve something which you believe in strongly.

The Arabs used to threaten misbehaving children with a visit by King
Richard. The crusaders were known to wipe out whole villages, killing
every living thing in them. Men, women, children, animals. Then they
stole whatever could be moved.

Most Arabs consider the Crusades as genocide.

It was a very unfortunate choice of words for Mr. Bush to use and I
believe he actually apologized for it's use.


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The Crusades were a series of wars by Western European Christians to
recapture the Holy Land from the Muslims. The Crusades began in 1095 and
ended in the mid- or late 13th century. The term Crusade was originally
applied solely to European efforts to retake from the Muslims the city
of Jerusalem, which was sacred to Christians as the site of the
crucifixion of Jesus Christ. It was later used to designate any military
effort by Europeans against non-Christians.

http://ragz-international.com/crusades.htm
=====================================

The Crusades, like the Inquistion, were among the darkest, most evil times
in all of Christendom, and were directly responsible for the Dark Ages. It
seems strange to me that before the Crusades, nearly all human knowledge was
concentrated in libraries built and maintained by Islam.. and Islam was the
far more civilised and forward-thinking... gotta wonder what happened..
maybe they are still REALLY ****ed about it??

You flunk history.

Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:

The Crusades, like the Inquistion, were among the darkest, most evil times
in all of Christendom, and were directly responsible for the Dark Ages. It
seems strange to me that before the Crusades, nearly all human knowledge was
concentrated in libraries built and maintained by Islam.. and Islam was the
far more civilised and forward-thinking... gotta wonder what happened..
maybe they are still REALLY ****ed about it??


I would think so. During the third crusade, Richard beheaded over two
thousand prisoners. The Christian invaders developed a reputation for
being lying *******s.

In one the last Crusades, the would be heroes didn't have many
resources, so they raided Constantinople instead. What a farce.



mike


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..let the cat out to reply..

It was a very unfortunate choice of words for Mr. Bush to use and I
believe he actually apologized for it's use.

I'm not in the business of defending any politician, but usage of the word
'crusade', or 'inquisition', or even 'holocaust' is not a socially
inappropriate thing to do. Those words were around long before their
'capitalized' versions became the names of those particular events, and have
been in safe, common and calm usage ever since.
But the MAIN point of any addition from me to this thread is as has already
been stated. It's a hoax.
Linus

"metonymy" wrote in message
...
The Crusades, like the Inquistion, were among the darkest, most evil
times
in all of Christendom, and were directly responsible for the Dark Ages.
It
seems strange to me that before the Crusades, nearly all human knowledge
was
concentrated in libraries built and maintained by Islam.. and Islam was
the
far more civilised and forward-thinking... gotta wonder what happened..
maybe they are still REALLY ****ed about it??

You flunk history.


Don't think so.. history was my best subject in HS.. with a B+ average. And
that was 30 years ago, before Columbus became a conquistador (note the small
'c') rather than an explorer. They also taught us in-depth about the rise
of Hitler, which at the time was still fresh in the minds of many adults,
including my own father, who had come to the US to get away from the Nazi's,
and is very dismayed at what is happening in our country now being very
closely parallel to what was happening there in the 30's...

Not just Islam. The Irish (of all people) had copied nearly everything they
could get their hands on from the Romans, from whom they learned to write.
Much of this information was saved in monasteries and, when bought back out
hundreds of years later, helped jump start civilization out of those dark
ages and into the renaissance. Kenneth Clark gives in his excellent
"Civilisation' a decription of how western knowlege and civilization hung by
a thread and was almost lost if not for the Irish.

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Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html
"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
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"m II" wrote in message
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Mark S. Holden wrote:

This is a hoax.

See

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_spielberg_crusades.htm

A movie like that would be REALLY detrimental to a certain GW Bush and
gang. Bush already called his invasion a Crusade. What a maroon.



The Crusades, like the Inquistion, were among the darkest, most evil times
in all of Christendom, and were directly responsible for the Dark Ages. It
seems strange to me that before the Crusades, nearly all human knowledge
was
concentrated in libraries built and maintained by Islam.. and Islam was
the
far more civilised and forward-thinking... gotta wonder what happened..
maybe they are still REALLY ****ed about it??

"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
...

"m II" wrote in message
news:emncc.6657$Sh4.6610@edtnps84...
Mark S. Holden wrote:

This is a hoax.

See


http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_spielberg_crusades.htm

A movie like that would be REALLY detrimental to a certain GW Bush
and
gang. Bush already called his invasion a Crusade. What a maroon.



The Crusades, like the Inquistion, were among the darkest, most evil
times
in all of Christendom, and were directly responsible for the Dark
Ages. It
seems strange to me that before the Crusades, nearly all human
knowledge was
concentrated in libraries built and maintained by Islam.. and Islam
was the
far more civilised and forward-thinking... gotta wonder what
happened..
maybe they are still REALLY ****ed about it??

Sorry BA, this is inaccurate. I'm not sure about the libraries part,
but the "Dark Ages" preceded the Crusades, and there were certain
positive cultural results from the Crusades (trade, written history).

"m II" wrote in message
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Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:

The Crusades, like the Inquistion, were among the darkest, most
evil times
in all of Christendom, and were directly responsible for the Dark
Ages. It
seems strange to me that before the Crusades, nearly all human
knowledge was
concentrated in libraries built and maintained by Islam.. and
Islam was the
far more civilised and forward-thinking... gotta wonder what
happened..
maybe they are still REALLY ****ed about it??


I would think so. During the third crusade, Richard beheaded over
two
thousand prisoners. The Christian invaders developed a reputation
for
being lying *******s.

In one the last Crusades, the would be heroes didn't have many
resources, so they raided Constantinople instead. What a farce.



Just for the record--and not that it reflects on any of your other
statements--that was the Fourth Crusade. I believe there were at
least eight, and it didn't have anything to do with lack of resources.
Reserve your scorn for situations that we can understand today.

Brian Denley wrote:

Not just Islam. The Irish (of all people) had copied nearly everything they
could get their hands on from the Romans, from whom they learned to write.
Much of this information was saved in monasteries and, when bought back out
hundreds of years later, helped jump start civilization out of those dark
ages and into the renaissance. Kenneth Clark gives in his excellent
"Civilisation' a decription of how western knowlege and civilization hung by
a thread and was almost lost if not for the Irish.


I don't think they had the plagues in Ireland either. That helped a lot.
This is a good book concerning Ireland and saving of knowledge.



http://www.centuryone.com/1849-3.html



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..let the cat out to reply..

T. Early wrote:

Sorry BA, this is inaccurate. I'm not sure about the libraries part,
but the "Dark Ages" preceded the Crusades, and there were certain
positive cultural results from the Crusades (trade, written history).

A lot of people consider the Renaissance to be the end of the dark ages.
That was around the time Columbus set sail. The time between the
collapse of the Roman Empire (400 AD roughly?) to 1500 is the likely
range for the 'dark ages'



mike



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..let the cat out to reply..

A lot of people consider the Renaissance to be the end of the dark ages.
That was around the time Columbus set sail. The time between the
collapse of the Roman Empire (400 AD roughly?) to 1500 is the likely
range for the 'dark ages'

Nobody, except you, considers the Renaissance to be the end of the dark
ages. Please stop cross-posting this inane (and inaccurate) crap to
neworleans.general. Nobody here cares.

No, don't bother to respond, I've just kill-filed you along with the
other cross-posting spammers.

metonymy wrote:

A lot of people consider the Renaissance to be the end of the dark
ages. That was around the time Columbus set sail. The time between
the collapse of the Roman Empire (400 AD roughly?) to 1500 is the
likely range for the 'dark ages'


Nobody, except you, considers the Renaissance to be the end of the dark
ages. Please stop cross-posting this inane (and inaccurate) crap to
neworleans.general. Nobody here cares.

No, don't bother to respond, I've just kill-filed you along with the
other cross-posting spammers.


Looks like I shoved the middle ages into the catagory. A reference I
looked at said the dark ages were roughly from 400 to 800 AD. The brain
is rotting. The MIDDLE ages ended around 1500.




mike

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 20:00:40 GMT, m II
wrote:

The brain
is rotting.




mike

We figured that out when you first started posting here!

You Maroon!

Look I can spell like you.

Tracy

In article ,
Dave wrote:

On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:28:34 -0400, T. Early wrote:

"m II" wrote in message
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Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:

The Crusades, like the Inquistion, were among the darkest, most
evil times
in all of Christendom, and were directly responsible for the Dark
Ages. It
seems strange to me that before the Crusades, nearly all human
knowledge was
concentrated in libraries built and maintained by Islam.. and
Islam was the
far more civilised and forward-thinking... gotta wonder what
happened..
maybe they are still REALLY ****ed about it??


I would think so. During the third crusade, Richard beheaded over
two
thousand prisoners. The Christian invaders developed a reputation
for
being lying *******s.

In one the last Crusades, the would be heroes didn't have many
resources, so they raided Constantinople instead. What a farce.



Just for the record--and not that it reflects on any of your other
statements--that was the Fourth Crusade. I believe there were at
least eight, and it didn't have anything to do with lack of resources.
Reserve your scorn for situations that we can understand today.

Christianity long ago left the 14th century behind. Islam never did.

So why did you start this OT thread and include neworleans.general where
is is OT also? Just curious.

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