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Old April 11th 04, 08:02 PM
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Subject: John Kerry's hypocrisy proves his contempt for voter intelligence
From: Duane
Date: 4/11/2004 1:20 PM Central Daylight Time
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Kerry does not like off shore companies: Oh Really?

Just came across a bit of information regarding Kerry and his claim of
the Bush administration sending jobs abroad. Well, it seems that the
Heinz Corporation, owned by Kerry's wife, has 79 plants where it
manufacturers products and 57 of the 79 are located in countries
outside of the U.S. How many U.S. jobs are lost here?

Factories located at: Taipei, Taiwan (makes Heinz baby foods) Dublin,
Ireland; Paris, France; Dovarmenez, France; Lisbon, Portugal; Madrid,
Spain; Milan, Italy; Monguzzo, Italy; Athens, Greece; Warsaw, Poland;
Pudliszki, Poland; Wodzislaw, Poland; Miedzychod, Poland; Moscow,
Russia; Georgievisk, Russia; Cairo, Egypt; Tel Aviv, Israel; Haifa,
Isreal; Elst, The Netherlands and 6 other plants there; Brussels,
Belgium; Dusseldorf, Germany; Seesen, Germany; Turnhout, Belgium;
Rovereto, Italy; Chateaurenand, France; North York, Ontario, Canada;
Wheatley, Ontario, Canada; Caracas,Venezuela; San Jose, Costa Rica;
Johannesburg, South Africa; Gaborone, Botswana; Harare, Zimbabwe;
Cheguta, Zimbabwe; Wellington, South Africa; Melbourne, Victoria,
Australia; Republic of Singapore; Auckland, New Zealand; Tokyo, Japan;
Guangzhov, People's Republic of China (makes infant cereal); Qingdao,
People's Republic of China (makes infant foods, ketchup, mayonnaise &
puree); Inchon, South Korea (makes Heinz products and StarKist);
Bangkok, Thailand; Mumbai, India; Jakarta, Indonesia; Surabaya,
Indonesia; Manila, Philippines; Wanchai, Hong Kong.

Also recently purchased from Bordens these products: Classico Pasta
Sauce; Aunt Millies Pasta Sauce; Mrs. Grass Receipt Soups; Wylers
Bouillons & Soups.

Think of the conflict of interest a President would have who's wife
owns business interests in all of these countries and others. Pass it
on!!!!



And, EG & G Corp. that is owned by George S. Bush and Saudi's, Halliburton/KBR
etc. how many divisions in how many countries?

This is too easy! Pass it on.

Les
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Old April 11th 04, 08:11 PM
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Duane wrote:

A bunch of BS that has been debunked at:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp

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Old April 11th 04, 08:21 PM
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In article , Duane
wrote:

Kerry does not like off shore companies: Oh Really?

Just came across a bit of information regarding Kerry and his claim of
the Bush administration sending jobs abroad. Well, it seems that the
Heinz Corporation, owned by Kerry's wife, has 79 plants where it
manufacturers products and 57 of the 79 are located in countries
outside of the U.S. How many U.S. jobs are lost here?

snip list

Also recently purchased from Bordens these products: Classico Pasta
Sauce; Aunt Millies Pasta Sauce; Mrs. Grass Receipt Soups; Wylers
Bouillons & Soups.

Think of the conflict of interest a President would have who's wife
owns business interests in all of these countries and others. Pass it
on!!!!


Almost any large corporation is multinational so the point would be?

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Old April 11th 04, 08:48 PM
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In article ,
(Mike Pearson see .sig) wrote:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp

Depends on how you look at it. She has multimillions of dollars from
that corporation although she does not have a controlling interest in
the multinational company. So the distinction has now merit since she
and John benefit from it.

John Kerry benefits from the profits of a multinational corporation
through his wife. So your point is?

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Old April 11th 04, 09:22 PM
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Telamon wrote:

In article ,
(Mike Pearson see .sig) wrote:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp

Depends on how you look at it. She has multimillions of dollars from
that corporation although she does not have a controlling interest in
the multinational company. So the distinction has now merit since she
and John benefit from it.


She is far from "owning" the company as the original poster stated in
the message that he forwarded. (She holds less than 4%, and is not on
the board or otherwise involved in the running of the company.) His
message makes it sound as if she is the actual owner, involved in
day-to-day operations. The Heinz company has been trying to debunk this
stuff, too. They make ketchup and pickles, and are not involved in
politics.

John Kerry benefits from the profits of a multinational corporation
through his wife. So your point is?


The point is that she is a common stockholder (and not even a very big
one), and the relationship that the forwarded (and thoroughly debunked)
message impliues does not, in fact, exist.


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In article ,
Telamon writes:

Troll Troll Troll Yer Boat . . .

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp

Dan ( Struggling to buy the products mentioned in the Web Site Below )

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Old April 12th 04, 07:27 AM
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In article ,
(Mike Pearson see .sig) wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
(Mike Pearson see .sig) wrote:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp

Depends on how you look at it. She has multimillions of dollars from
that corporation although she does not have a controlling interest in
the multinational company. So the distinction has now merit since she
and John benefit from it.


She is far from "owning" the company as the original poster stated in
the message that he forwarded. (She holds less than 4%, and is not on
the board or otherwise involved in the running of the company.) His
message makes it sound as if she is the actual owner, involved in
day-to-day operations. The Heinz company has been trying to debunk this
stuff, too. They make ketchup and pickles, and are not involved in
politics.

John Kerry benefits from the profits of a multinational corporation
through his wife. So your point is?


The point is that she is a common stockholder (and not even a very big
one), and the relationship that the forwarded (and thoroughly debunked)
message impliues does not, in fact, exist.


No you are missing the point. They sold their stock or own stock and
made money. Kerry benefited by the sale or the holding of the stock. You
don't have to control the company to benefit.

The premiss of my argument is that he benefits from a multinational
company that creates job overseas. Who controls the company is a fine
point without merit.

Kerry and his wife should take the capital out of Heinz and put it into
a company that creates jobs in the US. That is if he was true to his
word, which apparently he is not.

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Ventura, California
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Old April 13th 04, 11:03 PM
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Your full of **** Duane.....Look it up you ****ing ignorant asshole

Go suck on Dubya your daddy a while


"Duane" wrote in message
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Kerry does not like off shore companies: Oh Really?

Just came across a bit of information regarding Kerry and his claim of
the Bush administration sending jobs abroad. Well, it seems that the
Heinz Corporation, owned by Kerry's wife, has 79 plants where it
manufacturers products and 57 of the 79 are located in countries
outside of the U.S. How many U.S. jobs are lost here?

Factories located at: Taipei, Taiwan (makes Heinz baby foods) Dublin,
Ireland; Paris, France; Dovarmenez, France; Lisbon, Portugal; Madrid,
Spain; Milan, Italy; Monguzzo, Italy; Athens, Greece; Warsaw, Poland;
Pudliszki, Poland; Wodzislaw, Poland; Miedzychod, Poland; Moscow,
Russia; Georgievisk, Russia; Cairo, Egypt; Tel Aviv, Israel; Haifa,
Isreal; Elst, The Netherlands and 6 other plants there; Brussels,
Belgium; Dusseldorf, Germany; Seesen, Germany; Turnhout, Belgium;
Rovereto, Italy; Chateaurenand, France; North York, Ontario, Canada;
Wheatley, Ontario, Canada; Caracas,Venezuela; San Jose, Costa Rica;
Johannesburg, South Africa; Gaborone, Botswana; Harare, Zimbabwe;
Cheguta, Zimbabwe; Wellington, South Africa; Melbourne, Victoria,
Australia; Republic of Singapore; Auckland, New Zealand; Tokyo, Japan;
Guangzhov, People's Republic of China (makes infant cereal); Qingdao,
People's Republic of China (makes infant foods, ketchup, mayonnaise &
puree); Inchon, South Korea (makes Heinz products and StarKist);
Bangkok, Thailand; Mumbai, India; Jakarta, Indonesia; Surabaya,
Indonesia; Manila, Philippines; Wanchai, Hong Kong.

Also recently purchased from Bordens these products: Classico Pasta
Sauce; Aunt Millies Pasta Sauce; Mrs. Grass Receipt Soups; Wylers
Bouillons & Soups.

Think of the conflict of interest a President would have who's wife
owns business interests in all of these countries and others. Pass it
on!!!!




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