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Little Red Book
I'm wondering how many of you out there still have your copy of
'Quotations From Chairman Mao Tse Tung' that was sent out by Radio Peking years ago? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
I'm wondering how many of you out there still have your copy of 'Quotations From Chairman Mao Tse Tung' that was sent out by Radio Peking years ago? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm - None of my Chinese Freinds, By God; - Most of them lost family when he took over; -While in College, I ran into some kids who were treated " Very poorly " by his kind; Got no use for Chairman Mao; he was one of the worst Butchers mankind has ever known... Dan ( Listening to BBC 12.095 ) |
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I'm wondering how many of you out there still have your copy of 'Quotations From Chairman Mao Tse Tung' that was sent out by Radio Peking years ago? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm Steve: Nah - as soon as I got my security clearance, I decided that it might not be a good idea to keep that around! That was back in the early seventies. -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
Brian Denley wrote: N8KDV wrote: I'm wondering how many of you out there still have your copy of 'Quotations From Chairman Mao Tse Tung' that was sent out by Radio Peking years ago? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm Steve: Nah - as soon as I got my security clearance, I decided that it might not be a good idea to keep that around! That was back in the early seventies. Never hampered mine, but then they did mention that they knew I got mail from those pesky commies and that I was a SWL. |
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Never hampered mine, but then they did mention that they knew I got mail from those pesky commies and that I was a SWL. -- Steve: Yeah I did get grilled about it as well. There was no doubt that they knew who got what mail back then. -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
Subject: Little Red Book
From: N8KDV Date: 4/18/2004 3:15 PM Central Daylight Time Message-id: I'm wondering how many of you out there still have your copy of 'Quotations From Chairman Mao Tse Tung' that was sent out by Radio Peking years ago? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm I can go one better than that, back in 1957-58 my father was stationed at Torrejon A.F.B. in Madrid, Spain. I was a swl and had a Hammarlund AACS receiver. I had sent a report to Radio Moscow and received a large envelope in the mail..........actually, the base security had the envelope and had my dad up in front of the base commander. Dad was the ncoic of the AACS (Airways and Air Communications Service) and was a teletype and crypto tech. Well, they wanted to know why his son was in contact with the Russians??? LOL!!!!!!! I got my ass chewed and so did dad. We laughed about years later. I still have the shiny cover book with lots of propaganda and a buck rogers looking rocket on the cover. All about the Soviet Unions prowess in technology, etc. Different times........... Les Locklear On The Gulf of Mexico Ten Tec RX-350D Various antennas Monitoring since ' 57 |
Subject: Little Red Book
From: Dan Date: 4/18/2004 9:33 PM Central Daylight Time Message-id: On 19 Apr 2004 01:51:19 GMT, (Llgpt) wrote: snip LOL!!!!!!! I got my ass chewed and so did dad. We laughed about years later. I still have the shiny cover book with lots of propaganda and a buck rogers looking rocket on the cover. All about the Soviet Unions prowess in technology, etc. Different times........... Wow, great story! I imagine the reaction would be pretty much the same today if you wrote to Iran or North Korea! Dan Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440, Grundig S650, S700, S800, YB400, YB550PE Degen DE1102, Kaito KA1102 Hallicrafters S-120 (1962) Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937) E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936) Nah, Ashcroft and his band of wacko's would probably send you to Guantanamo to await trial! Les Locklear On The Gulf of Mexico Ten Tec RX-350D Various antennas Monitoring since ' 57 |
m II wrote: Llgpt wrote: Nah, Ashcroft and his band of wacko's would probably send you to Guantanamo to await trial! What does this word 'trial' mean? I thought it was taken out of the Americanized version of English. You thought wrong! Yet again! Are you and Bryant related in some fashion? |
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Wow, great story! I imagine the reaction would be pretty much the same today if you wrote to Iran or North Korea! It's almost impossible to get a letter into North Korea from the US. You have to know someone that can do an end run around the postal hierarchy. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
starman wrote: Dan wrote: Wow, great story! I imagine the reaction would be pretty much the same today if you wrote to Iran or North Korea! It's almost impossible to get a letter into North Korea from the US. You have to know someone that can do an end run around the postal hierarchy. The route I've found that worked was to send the report to CRI in Beijing and have them forward the letter to Pyongyang... Got a QSL back in a few weeks. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
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Still have mine - showed it to an acquaintance just this past Saturday and have it in front of me right now. Did you know that we could have requested a leather-bound copy and we would have gotten it for free? I wonder if it was red leather? My copy (red plastic cover) is the "Second Edition 1967" with a forward dated December 16, 1966 written by Mao's good buddy Lin Piao. We all know what Mao did to his good buddy just a few years later. I was still in college when I had my "visit" from the FBI. I had thought of naming my cat Meow tse Tung, but then changed my mind. Don't you miss the good old days when all you had to do to hear the communist countries was to tune almost anywhere on the dial and hear about the "US imperialists and their lackeys and running dogs?" Now it seems all we get is the "Hallelujah" boys ("Hallelujah, send me money!"). We have IF "filters," "filter" cigarettes, and spam "filters." No one was able to invent a "communist filter." Has anyone invented a "religious(?) broadcaster filter?" Lawrence N8KDV wrote in message ... I'm wondering how many of you out there still have your copy of 'Quotations From Chairman Mao Tse Tung' that was sent out by Radio Peking years ago? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... [snip] Don't you miss the good old days when all you had to do to hear the communist countries was to tune almost anywhere on the dial and hear about the "US imperialists and their lackeys and running dogs?" Now it seems all we get is the "Hallelujah" boys ("Hallelujah, send me money!"). We have IF "filters," "filter" cigarettes, and spam "filters." No one was able to invent a "communist filter." Has anyone invented a "religious(?) broadcaster filter?" Lawrence The communists were evangelists with a different theology. Frank Dresser |
Frank White wrote: In article , says... I'm wondering how many of you out there still have your copy of 'Quotations From Chairman Mao Tse Tung' that was sent out by Radio Peking years ago? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm I have Marx's "The Communist Manifesto" and "Das Kapital"; does that count? How's your credibility, btw? No, those are not copies of Mao's book. |
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says... Frank White wrote: In article , says... I'm wondering how many of you out there still have your copy of 'Quotations From Chairman Mao Tse Tung' that was sent out by Radio Peking years ago? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm I have Marx's "The Communist Manifesto" and "Das Kapital"; does that count? No, those are not copies of Mao's book. Ah. My bad. How's your credibility, btw? .... Still no response on that point, I see. "Then my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light; split the night. And broke the sound... of silence." FW |
Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: In article , says... I'm wondering how many of you out there still have your copy of 'Quotations From Chairman Mao Tse Tung' that was sent out by Radio Peking years ago? Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm I have Marx's "The Communist Manifesto" and "Das Kapital"; does that count? No, those are not copies of Mao's book. Ah. My bad. How's your credibility, btw? Pretty damn good as far as I know! How's yours? |
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"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... Don't you miss the good old days when all you had to do to hear the communist countries was to tune almost anywhere on the dial and hear about the "US imperialists and their lackeys and running dogs?" Now it seems all we get is the "Hallelujah" boys ("Hallelujah, send me money!"). Lawrence The communists were evangelists with a different theology. Frank Dresser The communist countries were on the air with a political agenda which could be argued (successfully, by our side, as it has turned out). (Everyone on the air has some agenda; that's why they're on the air.) (Even I have an agenda!) The communist broadcasters were nice to the individual listeners, not only never asking for anything (except for you to listen), but actually sending you gifts and information (some of it interesting) about their countries. The so-called "religious" broadcasters have, in my opinion, a very evil agenda. They espouse a subject which cannot be argued (no one ever "wins" a religious argument; look how many have been killed in the attempt) and constantly ask overtly and covertly for MONEY (which is used for more broadcasts to ask for more money, ad infinitum). Can you imagine a "religious broadcaster" sending you anything without asking for something in return? The amount you are asked to send is always much more than the value of the trinket he sends you! (They are masters in the art of making people feel guilty if they don't send money!) Incidentally, if the broadcaster is successful in fooling enough gullible people to send him their money, he can manage to live rather a lavish lifestyle, according to his wishes, whether it be Mercedes-Benzes, BMW's, or young women at his beck-and-call in his "compound." Anyone who thinks he or she can "buy" his/her way into "heaven" (or that these so-called "holy men" will help them do so) is, in my opinion, very foolish. Their "shows" aren't even entertaining! I don't wish to impugn any sincere religious person (I am one myself) and there have been some decent religious broadcasters (HCJB for one); I can only hope that the current crop of so-called "holy men" get off the shortwaves and take to the internet where we in the hobby can easily ignore them. Of course, maybe I'm in the wrong profession. Maybe I should become a "religious broadcaster." After all, my lifestyle won't be complete until I have a Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A and a tower antenna. A very tall tower. Hallelujah! Anybody want to send me money? Lawrence |
"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... The communist countries were on the air with a political agenda which could be argued (successfully, by our side, as it has turned out). Arguements didn't run down the communist countries, it was containment and economics. (Everyone on the air has some agenda; that's why they're on the air.) (Even I have an agenda!) The communist broadcasters were nice to the individual listeners, not only never asking for anything (except for you to listen), but actually sending you gifts and information (some of it interesting) about their countries. Of course they were nice. They were nice to anyone they weren't pointing a gun at, or under their jackboots. The so-called "religious" broadcasters have, in my opinion, a very evil agenda. They espouse a subject which cannot be argued (no one ever "wins" a religious argument; look how many have been killed in the attempt) Look how many people have died argueing with the Communists and Nazis in the previous century! Not just in warfare, but in internal supression!! No SW broadcaster Hall of Fame would be complete without Mao, Stalin and Hitler! This year Fidel Castro will kill more people to keep ahold of power than Doctor Scott. and constantly ask overtly and covertly for MONEY (which is used for more broadcasts to ask for more money, ad infinitum). Can you imagine a "religious broadcaster" sending you anything without asking for something in return? Many religious broadcasters send free literature. They do usually request, not demand, money, as they don't have their own source of involuntary revenue. Religious broadcasters also have no way of keeping donors inside their religions, unlike the emigration restrictions and the Berlin wall of the communist countries. The amount you are asked to send is always much more than the value of the trinket he sends you! Brother Stair's radios and satellite receivers aren't a bad deal. But Brother Stair makes no small scams. (They are masters in the art of making people feel guilty if they don't send money!) They should try harder. I don't send money, and I listen without guilt! Incidentally, if the broadcaster is successful in fooling enough gullible people to send him their money, he can manage to live rather a lavish lifestyle, according to his wishes, whether it be Mercedes-Benzes, BMW's, or young women at his beck-and-call in his "compound." Didn't Fidel Castro make the Forbes 500? Anyone who thinks he or she can "buy" his/her way into "heaven" (or that these so-called "holy men" will help them do so) is, in my opinion, very foolish. That's hardly unique to religion. Fool/Money/Parted. Their "shows" aren't even entertaining! The are very entertaining!! I don't wish to impugn any sincere religious person (I am one myself) and there have been some decent religious broadcasters (HCJB for one); I can only hope that the current crop of so-called "holy men" get off the shortwaves and take to the internet where we in the hobby can easily ignore them. They're on the internet! They're on TV! They're in the newspapers! They're on the radio! They're everywhere ideas are presented. And they will be, as long as the First Amendment is around. Of course, maybe I'm in the wrong profession. Maybe I should become a "religious broadcaster." After all, my lifestyle won't be complete until I have a Watkins-Johnson WJ-8711A and a tower antenna. A very tall tower. I think most of the scam religious broadcasters are wannabees. Be careful you don't end up standing at an intersection carrying a sign reading "Will Preach for Food". Hallelujah! Anybody want to send me money? Not me! Lawrence Frank Dresser |
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Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: snip How's your credibility, btw? Pretty damn good as far as I know! How's yours? Better than yours, I think. Much better. Let's cut to the chase here. You said that my suggestion (that Duyba may have run into the Air Forces' HUMAN RELIABIILTY PROGRAM and that's why his military records are incomplete, leading to charges he was AWOL) was untrue. And basically you called me a liar. If you are claiming he was AWOL then indeed you are a liar. |
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message ...
"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message om... The communist countries were on the air with a political agenda which could be argued (successfully, by our side, as it has turned out). Arguments didn't run down the communist countries, it was containment and economics. Information and education were really what brought down the communists. I met some individuals from Czechoslovakia and Hungary during the "cold war" and while they had some potent arguments for the merits of their system, their failings, once exposed to them and to their people, outweighed any advantages their system might have offered. Once their people really knew about the outside world, they themselves brought down their governments and their failed system. "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others." Were the communists a scourge of mankind? Of course they were (20,000,000 Russians killed by Stalin, among other atrocities), but their system at least started out with some noble purpose. It just worked out exactly the opposite of what its founders envisioned. (This is a poor point here in this argument, but how many Americans [native, black, etc.] have been killed with the tacit acceptance of the government?) The "religious" broacasters have no noble purpose. Just MONEY. Anyone who thinks he or she can "buy" his/her way into "heaven" (or that these so-called "holy men" will help them do so) is, in my opinion, very foolish. That's hardly unique to religion. Fool/Money/Parted. But these "religious" broadcasters prey (no pun intended) on it. That is their sole (again, no pun ...) reason for existence. Their "shows" aren't even entertaining! They are very entertaining!! Maybe they give you a good laugh but I can tell you that, among other things, they are ruining the shortwave hobby (as well as being inherently evil). I have given shortwave receivers as gifts to four individuals, three youngsters and one adult. I have shown them how to use these radios, as much as one can do in an hour or two. After a month or somewhat more, they all had the same complaint: nothing but "religious" shows on shortwave. Sure I tell them where to tune, but the complaint persists. No shortwave converts here. Regardless of what anyone says or even believes, this ("religious" broadcasts), more than anything else I can think of, is very damaging to the hobby, in my opinion. These hucksters are not interested in shortwave, or even, again in my opinion, in true religious beliefs. They only want MONEY! Sorry for the diatribe, but I really feel strongly about this. I love listening to the shortwaves for the fun of it (there is still something magical about it that the internet can never replace) and for the information it brings about countries that I shall never have the opportunity to visit. Are the opinions biased? Certainly they are, but all human opinions are biased in one way or another. At least these foreign broadcasts have mostly a decent purpose behind them, whether or not you believe in their system (I have no use whatsoever for Fidel Castro, but look at the record: he has outlasted nine US presidents [and who knows, he may outlast George W. Bush]. If there have been any assassination attempts by his own people against him, I am unaware of them. (Of course they wouldn't make that a headline on Radio Havana!) You and I don't like him, all the refugees don't either, but maybe some of his people do! I have just as much contempt for the "religious" broadcasters as I do for Castro. Again my apologies. You certainly have every right to believe the way you do (and you don't need my "permission" to do so). Lawrence |
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says... Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: snip How's your credibility, btw? Pretty damn good as far as I know! How's yours? Better than yours, I think. Much better. Let's cut to the chase here. You said that my suggestion (that Duyba may have run into the Air Forces' HUMAN RELIABIILTY PROGRAM and that's why his military records are incomplete, leading to charges he was AWOL) was untrue. And basically you called me a liar. I responded by provided cites from - and a URL to - a newspaper article from a fairly reputable paper saying exactly the same thing as I had. I also pointed out that even a cursory search of Google ("human reliablity program' air force) indicated that the program did exist and did functioned as outlined in the article. You shut up at that point. But silence isn't enough. I need you to either specify why you said my original statement was untrue so that I can expand my knowledge on this subject and be able to reach an informed decision. Or I need a 'Oops' from you. That's it. All I want. I don't get either, that tells me all I need to know regarding the true state of your credibility. And whether I regard you as a vauled fellow poster or a troll. Your move. I maintain that my credibility is stellar. I see. Your refusal puts the lie to your statement, I'm afraid. But at least your true nature is clear, now. FW |
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says... Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: snip How's your credibility, btw? Pretty damn good as far as I know! How's yours? Better than yours, I think. Much better. Let's cut to the chase here. You said that my suggestion (that Duyba may have run into the Air Forces' HUMAN RELIABIILTY PROGRAM and that's why his military records are incomplete, leading to charges he was AWOL) was untrue. And basically you called me a liar. If you are claiming he was AWOL then indeed you are a liar. You don't know what I said? You are functionally illiterate and having someone read the messages off the newsgroup for you? FW |
Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: snip How's your credibility, btw? Pretty damn good as far as I know! How's yours? Better than yours, I think. Much better. Let's cut to the chase here. You said that my suggestion (that Duyba may have run into the Air Forces' HUMAN RELIABIILTY PROGRAM and that's why his military records are incomplete, leading to charges he was AWOL) was untrue. And basically you called me a liar. I responded by provided cites from - and a URL to - a newspaper article from a fairly reputable paper saying exactly the same thing as I had. I also pointed out that even a cursory search of Google ("human reliablity program' air force) indicated that the program did exist and did functioned as outlined in the article. You shut up at that point. But silence isn't enough. I need you to either specify why you said my original statement was untrue so that I can expand my knowledge on this subject and be able to reach an informed decision. Or I need a 'Oops' from you. That's it. All I want. I don't get either, that tells me all I need to know regarding the true state of your credibility. And whether I regard you as a vauled fellow poster or a troll. Your move. I maintain that my credibility is stellar. I see. Your refusal puts the lie to your statement, I'm afraid. But at least your true nature is clear, now. How so? ****Wad |
Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: snip How's your credibility, btw? Pretty damn good as far as I know! How's yours? Better than yours, I think. Much better. Let's cut to the chase here. You said that my suggestion (that Duyba may have run into the Air Forces' HUMAN RELIABIILTY PROGRAM and that's why his military records are incomplete, leading to charges he was AWOL) was untrue. And basically you called me a liar. If you are claiming he was AWOL then indeed you are a liar. You don't know what I said? You are functionally illiterate and having someone read the messages off the newsgroup for you? You just proved you are full of ****! ****Wad |
Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: snip How's your credibility, btw? Pretty damn good as far as I know! How's yours? Better than yours, I think. Much better. Let's cut to the chase here. You said that my suggestion (that Duyba may have run into the Air Forces' HUMAN RELIABIILTY PROGRAM and that's why his military records are incomplete, leading to charges he was AWOL) was untrue. And basically you called me a liar. If you are claiming he was AWOL then indeed you are a liar. You don't know what I said? You are functionally illiterate and having someone read the messages off the newsgroup for you? Again, you are full of ****... ****Wad |
Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: snip How's your credibility, btw? Pretty damn good as far as I know! How's yours? Better than yours, I think. Much better. Let's cut to the chase here. You said that my suggestion (that Duyba may have run into the Air Forces' HUMAN RELIABIILTY PROGRAM and that's why his military records are incomplete, leading to charges he was AWOL) was untrue. And basically you called me a liar. I responded by provided cites from - and a URL to - a newspaper article from a fairly reputable paper saying exactly the same thing as I had. I also pointed out that even a cursory search of Google ("human reliablity program' air force) indicated that the program did exist and did functioned as outlined in the article. You shut up at that point. But silence isn't enough. I need you to either specify why you said my original statement was untrue so that I can expand my knowledge on this subject and be able to reach an informed decision. Or I need a 'Oops' from you. That's it. All I want. I don't get either, that tells me all I need to know regarding the true state of your credibility. And whether I regard you as a vauled fellow poster or a troll. Your move. I maintain that my credibility is stellar. I see. Your refusal puts the lie to your statement, I'm afraid. But at least your true nature is clear, now. Frankie, you've proved you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground! You get back to me sometime down the road when you'd like to talk DX. Until then you are a non-entity. You listening? I thought not! ****Wad |
Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: In article , says... Frank White wrote: snip How's your credibility, btw? Pretty damn good as far as I know! How's yours? Better than yours, I think. Much better. Let's cut to the chase here. You said that my suggestion (that Duyba may have run into the Air Forces' HUMAN RELIABIILTY PROGRAM and that's why his military records are incomplete, leading to charges he was AWOL) was untrue. And basically you called me a liar. I responded by provided cites from - and a URL to - a newspaper article from a fairly reputable paper saying exactly the same thing as I had. I also pointed out that even a cursory search of Google ("human reliablity program' air force) indicated that the program did exist and did functioned as outlined in the article. You shut up at that point. But silence isn't enough. I need you to either specify why you said my original statement was untrue so that I can expand my knowledge on this subject and be able to reach an informed decision. Or I need a 'Oops' from you. That's it. All I want. I don't get either, that tells me all I need to know regarding the true state of your credibility. And whether I regard you as a vauled fellow poster or a troll. Your move. I maintain that my credibility is stellar. I see. Your refusal puts the lie to your statement, I'm afraid. But at least your true nature is clear, now. ****Wad Listen to me here real good ****Wad... You are full of ****! As soon as you can show me that you have the frickin DX credentials that I have, someday I might just believe you here in this group. Until then I'd sneak back into whatever stinkin hole you happen to live in and wait your ****in turn. I've probably put in more damn time behind the dial tuning around, and turned in more damn reports to numerous DX publications over the years than your sorry ****in ass ever thought of doing, and unless you can prove otherwise I suggest that YOU take your sorry Troll Ass back under the bridge... And Fat Boy.. the same message is out to you... |
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"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message ... Information and education were really what brought down the communists. I met some individuals from Czechoslovakia and Hungary during the "cold war" and while they had some potent arguments for the merits of their system, their failings, once exposed to them and to their people, outweighed any advantages their system might have offered. Once their people really knew about the outside world, they themselves brought down their governments and their failed system. OK, you're right about that. The propaganda war was central to the success of the conatainment strategy. I've no doubt that, had the communists actually been able to entirely close off and censor their countries, they could have created their own dark age. "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others." Were the communists a scourge of mankind? Of course they were (20,000,000 Russians killed by Stalin, among other atrocities), but their system at least started out with some noble purpose. It just worked out exactly the opposite of what its founders envisioned. Well, the Bolsheviks lost their moral superiority, probably sometime before they decided to murder the Czar's family. But that's the sort of thing true believers will do. The Communists, at least at the start, were every bit as much a bunch of true believers as the Christians during the Dark Ages or as the fanatic Muslims are now. But the real evil of true believer orthodoxy is the limitation of people's choices. Life is unpredictable, even for people we like to think are "smart". Let a religion or party choose the one true path, and that path will certainly end up being wrong. But those in charge of the true path will never blame their doctrine, they'll blame the people. (This is a poor point here in this argument, but how many Americans [native, black, etc.] have been killed with the tacit acceptance of the government?) I don't know the number. But influential people dehuminized Blacks and Indians, and the government followed along. The shame is these people didn't get Constitutional protection from the get go. The "religious" broacasters have no noble purpose. Just MONEY. That depends which religious broadcasters you're talking about. There's a large number of standard theology evangalists on the radio. I think the style and content of EWTN's broadcasts are somewhat similiar in character and tone to the some of the calmer old propaganda broadcasts. The Christian Scientists run their newspaper and ran thier SW station as part of their religious mission. However, guys like Brother Stair get most of the attention. And while I certainly believe Brother Stair is an old reprobate con-artist, I can't prove it. That's hardly unique to religion. Fool/Money/Parted. But these "religious" broadcasters prey (no pun intended) on it. That is their sole (again, no pun ...) reason for existence. But people have the choice! And it's never been easier to do the research. They are very entertaining!! Maybe they give you a good laugh but I can tell you that, among other things, they are ruining the shortwave hobby They are adding to the hobby. The religious broadcasters do sell radios and add listeners. The programs may feature a different sort of propaganda, but none of these programs are forcing any of the old line broadcasters to go away. (as well as being inherently evil). The extreme religious broadcasters may very well be evil. But, again, we have plenty of choices. A theocracy, or other government of true believers, would be far more evil. I have given shortwave receivers as gifts to four individuals, three youngsters and one adult. I have shown them how to use these radios, as much as one can do in an hour or two. After a month or somewhat more, they all had the same complaint: nothing but "religious" shows on shortwave. Sure I tell them where to tune, but the complaint persists. No shortwave converts here. Regardless of what anyone says or even believes, this ("religious" broadcasts), more than anything else I can think of, is very damaging to the hobby, in my opinion. I doubt more than 5% of the public ever cared for SW radio, and the interest probably peaked in the prewar, preTV era. Is there any reason to think that your friends would have any interest in SW, no matter what the programming? After all, Radio Nederland and the BBC, among others, can still be heard most of the time. Shortwave broadcasting has gone through several changes in the US. Ignoring the spark era, the first broadcast era was centered around several domestic SW stations, most of which simulcast programming from a local station. The propaganda era started with WW2 and started decling with the fall of the Berlin Wall. Now we're in the religious broadcaster era. It seems likely that the small number of listeners from one era would find another one a disapointment. For example, a prewar listener who liked hearing local radio content from across the country might very well find the propaganda broadcasters annoying. Why not, that's not what got him into the hobby! And the hobby never had much appeal to most people anyway. These hucksters are not interested in shortwave, or even, again in my opinion, in true religious beliefs. They only want MONEY! Maybe. Let's be glad they can't be theocrats. Sorry for the diatribe, but I really feel strongly about this. I love listening to the shortwaves for the fun of it (there is still something magical about it that the internet can never replace) and for the information it brings about countries that I shall never have the opportunity to visit. Are the opinions biased? Certainly they are, but all human opinions are biased in one way or another. At least these foreign broadcasts have mostly a decent purpose behind them, whether or not you believe in their system The purpose wasn't entirely decent, at least in the case of the communist propaganda broadcasters. I'm sure they employed decent people, but they were there to put a pleasant face on a bad system. A system which would put the world into a Dark Age of orthodoxy every bit as stifleing as the ones the theocrats cooked up. (I have no use whatsoever for Fidel Castro, but look at the record: he has outlasted nine US presidents [and who knows, he may outlast George W. Bush]. If there have been any assassination attempts by his own people against him, I am unaware of them. (Of course they wouldn't make that a headline on Radio Havana!) You and I don't like him, all the refugees don't either, but maybe some of his people do! No doubt, and they can go straight to Walterboro if their current bearded guru kicks the bucket! I have just as much contempt for the "religious" broadcasters as I do for Castro. Castro's worse. He limits choices to keep himself in power, including the ultimate limitations of the prision and the firing squad. Brother Stair says "If you don't believe me, stop listening!!" Again my apologies. You certainly have every right to believe the way you do (and you don't need my "permission" to do so). Nothing to apologize for! Lawrence Frank Dresser |
FW - Speaking of Credibility - Your are Incredibility :o)
Most of the sources on the internet relate back to the Spokane Spokesman-Review as the primary source of this Incredibility INFERENCE and INNUENDO with 'relation' to the "Human Reliability Program" and its application to personal that would have access to Nuclear Weapons. http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian...es/000811.html PLEASE NOTE: All these sources clearly state that there is NO Documentation {NO Evidence} related to George "W" Bush and the "Human Reliability Program". http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...e=200431401040 The BIG LIE - These so called 'reporters' then go on to IMPLY that this must be part of a Cover-Up and that in-fact George "W" Bush must have moved from Texas to Alabama and then went AWOL to 'avoid' the "Human Reliability Program". ACTUALLY {A Little Known Fact} : As an F-102 Delta Dagger Jet "Interceptor" Pilot George "W" Bush http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/AC/airc...fo/closeup.jpg Was use to fly routine Air Defense Missions that employed the use of 'conventional' Rockets and Air-to-Air Missiles to intercept and knock out of the sky Russian Bombers. http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/resea...ghter/f102.htm NOTE: The F-102 was NOT equipped with Canons {Guns}. http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/AC/airc.../info/info.htm RECORDS: Records do show Bush had a ‘‘secret" security clearance for Cold War fighter-interceptor missions which routinely carried Conventional Warheads and Weapons (Non nuclear weapons). While the type of aircraft that GW Bush flew was 'capable' of Carrying Nuclear-Tipped Missiles. That was NOT their mission [.] http://www.strategic-air-command.com...delta_dart.htm TBL: Non Sequitur = Nuclear Weapons = "Human Reliability Program" http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/f-102.htm Hello FW - To use your own words: oops, Oops. OOPS ! FW - Nice Try... but you are just trying to Blow Smoke on "4-20" Day. FW a 'short wave' Good Bye to you ~ RHF .. .. = = = (Frank White) wrote in message = = = ... In article , says... Frank White wrote: snip How's your credibility, btw? Pretty damn good as far as I know! How's yours? Better than yours, I think. Much better. Let's cut to the chase here. You said that my suggestion (that Duyba may have run into the Air Forces' HUMAN RELIABIILTY PROGRAM and that's why his military records are incomplete, leading to charges he was AWOL) was untrue. And basically you called me a liar. I responded by provided cites from - and a URL to - a newspaper article from a fairly reputable paper saying exactly the same thing as I had. I also pointed out that even a cursory search of Google ("human reliablity program' air force) indicated that the program did exist and did functioned as outlined in the article. You shut up at that point. But silence isn't enough. I need you to either specify why you said my original statement was untrue so that I can expand my knowledge on this subject and be able to reach an informed decision. Or I need a 'Oops' from you. That's it. All I want. I don't get either, that tells me all I need to know regarding the true state of your credibility. And whether I regard you as a vauled fellow poster or a troll. Your move. FW PS: Shortwave .. |
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Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Listen to me here real good ****Wad... You are full of ****! As soon as you can show me that you have the frickin DX credentials that I have, someday I might just believe you here in this group. It's nice to see that Steve Lare can find someone else to act like an asshole with while I'm gone! It's truly insightful to see how Republicans, like Steve, treat other people. Very insigtful. So damn 'insigtful' you can't spell it! Wipe the crap outta your eyes Fat Boy and get your ass to work! |
Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Listen to me here real good ****Wad... You are full of ****! As soon as you can show me that you have the frickin DX credentials that I have, someday I might just believe you here in this group. It's nice to see that Steve Lare can find someone else to act like an asshole with while I'm gone! It's truly insightful to see how Republicans, like Steve, treat other people. It's truly insightful to see how hopeless academics lie about their credentials! |
Dear Frank,
Well at least we've had an interesting discussion, agreeing on some points and disagreeing on others. That's what makes the world go around and as long as no one holds a gun to the other's head, telling him he must believe "his way," everything is fine. I, like most people, always hated the communists (and all other totalitarian regimes) and I believe that the "religious broadcasters," while they do not actually hold a gun to your head, use an unarguable agenda which they use to further themselves and themselves only. (As I said, there are certainly some legitimate religious broadcasters.) Plus I still feel they are ruining the hobby. (Sure they sell radios; big deal. It's just another profit-making venture for them. The more people who listen to their broadcasts, the more money they can get!) "Brother" Stair appears to be an obvious "wacko" and sexual pervert. By the way, DO NOT go to church; if you do, you are definitely and positively under the influence of Satan. As the "church age" is over, you should not support your church in any way. Harold Camping says so. By the way, Harold would like you to send him some money. I really feel that these people and others like them who constitute the "now-mainstream" SW "religious" broadcasters are inherently evil. This is my opinion. I'm afraid that you and I are going to have to "agree to disagree" on that point. However, as I said, it certainly has been interesting. You are obviously a very reasoned and thoughtful person. We need more (many more) like you. Lawrence P.S. I never actually read Mao's "Little Red Book." |
I have Marx's "The Communist Manifesto" and "Das Kapital";
Ah, "Das Kapital", the 2nd best selling book in history. |
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: N8KDV Listen to me here real good ****Wad... You are full of ****! As soon as you can show me that you have the frickin DX credentials that I have, someday I might just believe you here in this group. It's nice to see that Steve Lare can find someone else to act like an asshole with while I'm gone! It's truly insightful to see how Republicans, like Steve, treat other people. Very insigtful. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) Michael, First off, you should spellcheck your trolls. (" Very insigtful.") -- As you have been fond of finding fault in others', I knew you'd appreciate this. Second, your observation about how "Republicans" act is hilarious (as usual -- one word, Mike -- "demographics"). And third, F.W. really WAS full of **** that time. Heheh. -- Stinger |
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