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Go After the Torturers' Officers!
http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff05012004.html
Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
You not at the tract this weekend???
Michael Bryant wrote: http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff05012004.html Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
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We will never know the truth about this. I am willing to bet there alot
worse things going on that we don't see pictures of. "Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff05012004.html Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
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"Jim Douglas" wrote: http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff05012004.html This is "America's best Political Newsletter" ? "The truth is that if the Commander-in-Chief--remember him?" Yeah right. Stopped reading it after the first paragraph. Very sophomoric. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
"Jim Douglas" wrote in message news:_URkc.5535$Ia6.620744@attbi_s03... We will never know the truth about this. I am willing to bet there alot worse things going on that we don't see pictures of. Yes every war has this stuff going on. Give people weapons and tell them to go to war, then get all surprised when we hear about stuff like this. Its war !! You would all be surprised at what your grandfathers and dads did to prisoners in past wars. Its called revenge for the death of your friends and comrades. Get a grip and kick CNN the **** out! -- 73 Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire! Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/ |
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Michael 'I lied about a PhD' Bryant wrote: From: "Brian Hill" You would all be surprised at what your grandfathers and dads did to prisoners in past wars. Its called revenge for the death of your friends and comrades. Get a grip and kick CNN the **** out! -- There's always been torture, so we should accept torture now. Pathetic excuse for logical reasoning. But, hey, look at the source.... Yep, look at the fact that you lied about having a PhD! |
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: "Brian Hill" You would all be surprised at what your grandfathers and dads did to prisoners in past wars. Its called revenge for the death of your friends and comrades. Get a grip and kick CNN the **** out! -- There's always been torture, so we should accept torture now. " You're right--there always has been torture. But unfortunately a lot of people who are now oh so worked up about these incidents (British and American) seemed perfectly content "accepting" far, far more widespread incidents of torture under Saddam's regime. Why do you suppose that's so? I'd suggest as we see the moral indignation piled high to the sky on this we ask those wielding the shovels: where were you when Saddam was driving nails into people's heads? |
"T. Early" wrote in message You're right--there always has been torture. But unfortunately a lot of people who are now oh so worked up about these incidents (British and American) seemed perfectly content "accepting" far, far more widespread incidents of torture under Saddam's regime. Why do you suppose that's so? I'd suggest as we see the moral indignation piled high to the sky on this we ask those wielding the shovels: where were you when Saddam was driving nails into people's heads? Thank you T. Brian |
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message There's always been torture, so we should accept torture now. I think you and your liberal cameras need to stay out of the war! I think eye for an eye. Got! It! Pathetic excuse for logical reasoning. But, hey, look at the source.... Your the one that's pathetic and can't deal with the ugly truth. That's the **** soldiers do to each other. Michael wants to sprinkle rose peddles on the battle field and have them throw Twinkies at each other. -- 73 Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire! Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/ |
"Michael Bryant" wrote in Condemning the CIA for teaching him those tricks in the 70's and early '80's. Unbelievable? |
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Michael Bryant wrote:
From: "Brian Hill" You would all be surprised at what your grandfathers and dads did to prisoners in past wars. Its called revenge for the death of your friends and comrades. Get a grip and kick CNN the **** out! -- There's always been torture, so we should accept torture now. Pathetic excuse for logical reasoning. But, hey, look at the source.... Hundreds of American Soldiers and many others have been killed by car bombs, suicide bombers, dying horrible deaths, and the world gets upset when some prisoners are abused. That dosen't excuse the abuse of these prisoners and the US military fools who did it should have know better, but get a grip, it isn't anything like the torture of dying others have experienced. This is nothing more than an opportunity to make play on something to make the US look bad to the rest of the world and bryant gets sucked right into it. |
Michael Bryant wrote:
The real patriots are those that fight wars with nobility, not juvenile forms of mistreatment. Real patriots respect our Constitution and the Geneva Convention. Real patriots fight wars to win. |
LW wrote:
ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote ... That we should go after the officers in charge of those who did wrong And I agree .. let's go after the officers of a few others who did wrong. REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of PanAm Flight 103! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the US Marine barracks in Lebanon! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the US military barracks in Saudi Arabia! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE! REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001! REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks! Let's go after thess officers first. And a few Muslim prisnors, who more than likely were responsible for some US Soldiers deaths, get abused, not tortured, and the world goes berserk and shouts how bad the US is. Did you hear this much outrage about all the the above Muslim acts that caused thousands of American deaths? |
"JJ" wrote in message ... Michael Bryant wrote: From: "Brian Hill" You would all be surprised at what your grandfathers and dads did to prisoners in past wars. Its called revenge for the death of your friends and comrades. Get a grip and kick CNN the **** out! -- There's always been torture, so we should accept torture now. Pathetic excuse for logical reasoning. But, hey, look at the source.... Hundreds of American Soldiers and many others have been killed by car bombs, suicide bombers, dying horrible deaths, and the world gets upset when some prisoners are abused. That dosen't excuse the abuse of these prisoners and the US military fools who did it should have know better, but get a grip, it isn't anything like the torture of dying others have experienced. This is nothing more than an opportunity to make play on something to make the US look bad to the rest of the world and bryant gets sucked right into it. You are correct JJ. It was foolish but this stuff happens in war and the people that exploit this stuff are assholes trying to make a buck all in a effort to keep the liberal media machine chugging away. |
"Stinger" wrote in message Brian, That statement is either unbelievably stupid, or unbelievably naieve. I'm going to give you the benefit of naieve (for now). -- Stinger What? Are you kidding me? Is it your opinion that there is a way to stop soldiers from doing things like this to one and other? Give me a break! I think your naive. |
"LW" wrote in message I remember watching as the twin towers were about to fall. People jumping to their death from hundreds of feet up - apparently because they had lost hope of being rescued, and could no longer stand the heat of the fires. God rest their souls. That sight was *truly sad*. Amen. Truly sad. -- 73 Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire! Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/ |
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... Brian Hill" wrote in message C "Stinger" wrote in message Brian, That statement is either unbelievably stupid, or unbelievably naieve. I'm going to give you the benefit of naieve (for now). -- Stinger What? Are you kidding me? Is it your opinion that there is a way to stop soldiers from doing things like this to one and other? Give me a break! I think your naive. Oops... Brian, you just went for the "unbelievably stupid" category, and made it with flying colors! Your statement "You want to know how to stop it? Don't have wars!" is such utter nonsense that I hardly know where to begin, but to actually try to defend that position requires an amazing lack of intellect combined with a skewed world view even the French would find hilarious. -- Stinger |
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "JJ" wrote in message ... Michael Bryant wrote: From: "Brian Hill" You would all be surprised at what your grandfathers and dads did to prisoners in past wars. Its called revenge for the death of your friends and comrades. Get a grip and kick CNN the **** out! -- There's always been torture, so we should accept torture now. Pathetic excuse for logical reasoning. But, hey, look at the source.... Hundreds of American Soldiers and many others have been killed by car bombs, suicide bombers, dying horrible deaths, and the world gets upset when some prisoners are abused. That dosen't excuse the abuse of these prisoners and the US military fools who did it should have know better, but get a grip, it isn't anything like the torture of dying others have experienced. This is nothing more than an opportunity to make play on something to make the US look bad to the rest of the world and bryant gets sucked right into it. You are correct JJ. It was foolish but this stuff happens in war and the people that exploit this stuff are assholes trying to make a buck all in a effort to keep the liberal media machine chugging away. Darn it, Brian... good post. -- Gotta put you back in the other category again :) -- Stinger |
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Michael 'I lied about a PhD' Bryant wrote: From: "Stinger" Oops... Brian, you just went for the "unbelievably stupid" category, and made it with flying colors! Your statement "You want to know how to stop it? Don't have wars!" is such utter nonsense that I hardly know where to begin, but to actually try to defend that position requires an amazing lack of intellect combined with a skewed world view even the French would find hilarious. Ok, I officially and openly apologize. Your posts in the last 24 hours have shown a wisdom and intellect that I find worthy of respect. After seeing the posts from you and JD, I know that there are some thoughtful Republicans in this NG. Maybe there is hope.... I doubt it! After all you did lie about that PhD! |
"Stinger" wrote in message . .. "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... Brian Hill" wrote in message C "Stinger" wrote in message Brian, That statement is either unbelievably stupid, or unbelievably naieve. I'm going to give you the benefit of naieve (for now). -- Stinger What? Are you kidding me? Is it your opinion that there is a way to stop soldiers from doing things like this to one and other? Give me a break! I think your naive. Oops... Brian, you just went for the "unbelievably stupid" category, and made it with flying colors! Your statement "You want to know how to stop it? Don't have wars!" is such utter nonsense that I hardly know where to begin, but to actually try to defend that position requires an amazing lack of intellect combined with a skewed world view even the French would find hilarious. -- Stinger I was being a smart ass stupid. The fact remains that this is part of war stupid. Your all fired up ready to make big examples of these troops. That's what ****es me off! |
"Stinger" wrote in message ... "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "JJ" wrote in message ... Michael Bryant wrote: From: "Brian Hill" You would all be surprised at what your grandfathers and dads did to prisoners in past wars. Its called revenge for the death of your friends and comrades. Get a grip and kick CNN the **** out! -- There's always been torture, so we should accept torture now. Pathetic excuse for logical reasoning. But, hey, look at the source.... Hundreds of American Soldiers and many others have been killed by car bombs, suicide bombers, dying horrible deaths, and the world gets upset when some prisoners are abused. That dosen't excuse the abuse of these prisoners and the US military fools who did it should have know better, but get a grip, it isn't anything like the torture of dying others have experienced. This is nothing more than an opportunity to make play on something to make the US look bad to the rest of the world and bryant gets sucked right into it. You are correct JJ. It was foolish but this stuff happens in war and the people that exploit this stuff are assholes trying to make a buck all in a effort to keep the liberal media machine chugging away. Darn it, Brian... good post. -- Gotta put you back in the other category again :) -- Stinger Thank You. I wish you would try to grasp what it is I'm trying to say though. |
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: "Stinger" Oops... Brian, you just went for the "unbelievably stupid" category, and made it with flying colors! Your statement "You want to know how to stop it? Don't have wars!" is such utter nonsense that I hardly know where to begin, but to actually try to defend that position requires an amazing lack of intellect combined with a skewed world view even the French would find hilarious. Ok, I officially and openly apologize. Your posts in the last 24 hours have shown a wisdom and intellect that I find worthy of respect. After seeing the posts from you and JD, I know that there are some thoughtful Republicans in this NG. Maybe there is hope.... Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Thanks, Michael. Sometimes I think you have a caricature of conservatives that just doesn't add up to what most of us really are. We really do want to take care of the poor, educate the unskilled and illiterate, protect the environment, and so on, but we simply disagree with liberals that more (or larger) government is the answer to these problems. - Stinger |
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Michael 'I lied about my PhD' Bryant wrote: From: Tracy Fort I heard on the shortwave today that the palestinians killed 5 or 6 children in a terrorist attack. I guess that's OK in your book. I think the Israelis should nuke the **** out of palestine and d the US should help! Tracy, It's very obvious that you are totally uninformed. Nuking the Palestinians would mean nuking the Jewish settlements in Palestine. How do you propose the Israelis nuke Palestininans without killing the Jewish settlers? Duh! Have you ever taken an IQ test? Well you took apparently took a PhD test and failed it Fat Boy! |
Michael 'I lied about a PhD' Bryant wrote: From: "Stinger" We really do want to take care of the poor, educate the unskilled and illiterate, protect the environment, and so on, but we simply disagree with liberals that more (or larger) government is the answer to these problems. I think you need to be careful when you speak for all neo-cons. Can you show me one example of where the Bush administration has made "big government" smaller? Well he kinda did a number on your pal Saddam's government you Marxist sympathiser. |
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Michael 'I lied about a PhD' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Well you took apparently took a PhD test and failed it Fat Boy! Nope. Try again. This time try to find an original thought. Here's a $10 bet saying you can't. You sure seem to want to bet a lot! Guess that's why you didn't have any money (besides spending it on drugs) when you got canned (resigned, or however you spin it!) from Weber State. |
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Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Well you took apparently took a PhD test and failed it Fat Boy! Nope. Try again. This time try to find an original thought. Here's a $10 bet saying you can't. But you lied abut the PhD Fat Boy... keep your $10.... I know it's tough at the 7-11. Well, first, you know I'm a teacher. Not a very good one, obviously. You make fun of that fact daily. I don't work at a 7-11, but unlikr you, I do work. And secondly, thanks for proving that you wouldn't know an original thought if it hit you in the head! Pathetically boggling! Take a bath, dude! Got you all worked up again Fat Boy... your spelling is showing. Calm down, take your Fat Boy meds, and don't have a 'grabber'. |
Michael 'I lied about a PhD' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Can you show me one example of where the Bush administration has made "big government" smaller? Well he kinda did a number on your pal Saddam's government you Marxist sympathiser. Which required an increase in the size of big government spending that Bush had pledged to reduce! Your intelligence is absolutely pathetic. I'd ask Grand Valley State for a refund if I were you. Did you get one from Wayne State? |
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