"Amos-n-Andy" coming in CD!!! *Soon*
 

I won't beat the subject in the ground anymore unless anyone wants to talk
about an episode or something, but I gotta tell you. If you just read 'some' of
that link Frank provided.........
http://www.midcoast.com/~lizmcl/aa.html

then listen to say maybe three or four shows, you'll be hooked IMO. That's how
it happened with me. That link took me forever to read and I read fast, but it
was late and I had a little bit of meds in me. But if you learn the way each
character acts and their quirks from that link and then listen to three or four
shows, you'll be hooked and at midnight wherever you are, you will have it
tuned to 7.415 WBCQ-they throw out a good signal so that won't be a problem.

Here's a snippet from an email I got today from Ed.
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Recordings of my re-creations are NOT publicly available yet, so there's yet
another mis-statement!
NOT TRUE!!!
Soon I'll have CD's of all the programs I've done so far available on the open
market for purchase, but right now they're not.
And as far as being "racially insensitive" is concerned, that kind of thinking
exactly what's RUINED comedy in this country!
Hollywood and the entertainment industry in general is so concerned about being
"politically correct" these days that they've KILLED real comedy in the
country! Now nothing's funny!
That kind of criticism makes my blood boil!
In fact, That's exactly why I stick to the past. Then the values were right on
target. Comedy was REAL comedy; if you didn't want to listen to it, you didn't
HAVE to!
If someone doesn't like A&A, they can damn well turn off their radio. They
don't have to ruin it for everyone else.
Ed
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If anyone in here hasn't gave 'Amos-n-Andy' a chance and listened to it, you
should, it has everything that comedy nowadays doesn't have. It has the funny
but yet at times emotional, in an 'innocence' that just doesn't come through in
todays comedy, NONE.

Thanks for reading and any support for 'A&A' is greatly appreciated.

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Hey Frank, you said this.
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The song brings up the racial insensititivity issue, though. It's debatable
if Amos 'n' Andy was racially insensitive, but there's no doubt that the
source of the music, the movie "Birth of a Nation" was racially insensitive.
*******************
What was so racially insensitive about it? Do you a sound byte of it or can
you 'tell me.' {?} That was 'racially insensitive but Diceman/Murphy/ and the
little fat former preacher psycho that died (I forget his name) EVERY comedian
*I* hear is WAYYYYYYYY more racially 'insensitive' than ANYTHING I have ever
heard on A&A.

I'm curious as to your reply...lol.

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Hey Frank, you said this.
****************
The song brings up the racial insensititivity issue, though. It's
debatable
if Amos 'n' Andy was racially insensitive, but there's no doubt that the
source of the music, the movie "Birth of a Nation" was racially
insensitive.
*******************
What was so racially insensitive about it? Do you a sound byte of it or
can
you 'tell me.' {?} That was 'racially insensitive but Diceman/Murphy/
and the
little fat former preacher psycho that died (I forget his name) EVERY
comedian
*I* hear is WAYYYYYYYY more racially 'insensitive' than ANYTHING I have
ever
heard on A&A.

I'm curious as to your reply...lol.


I saw "Birth of a Nation" years ago and calling it racially insensitive is
putting it lightly. It's racist. If I recall, it's about the Civil War era
South, it portrays Blacks in racial stereotypes and the KKK as heroes.

"Birth of a Nation" a silent movie, and the music must have come from a
music score written for the movie.

It's also boring. But it was considered to be one of the most amazing
films of it's day, so I suppose the previous films were even more boring.

I'm sure Google can come with more on "Birth of a Nation".

I don't mind insensitive movies. The best movie I've seen recently was a
heavily edited version of "Head of the Family", which was shown by a local
TV horror movie host. This movie is insensitive to Bikers, Bimbos,
Sleazeballs and, most of all, Human Freaks. I can highly recommend it.

Frank Dresser

I don't mind insensitive movies. The best movie I've seen recently was a
heavily edited version of "Head of the Family", which was shown by a local
TV horror movie host.

So you *are* big or *not* big on racially insensitive. I get mixed feelings
reading your post. {?}


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Here's Ed's reply to that song being 'insensitive.' LOL
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Once again, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about!
"The Perfect Song" was written as a dreamy song to be sung. I have a copy of
the words and music somewhere, and there's nothing in those words that is
"racially insensitive"! They are dreamy, philosophical in nature, so I really
can't see what he's talking about!
If he means that the movie BIRTH OF A NATION portrayed negroes as slaves, well
then THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS, during the birth of this nation! They were brought
over here to this country to be SLAVES, to work on the southern cotton
plantations like it or not!
Apparently, he's criticizing the movie because it was historically accurate!
The movie may have USED the song to enhance the action in it, but that doesn't
mean that the composer of the song was "racially insensitive"!

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Apparently, he's criticizing the movie because it was historically accurate!

What a silly thing to say.
D.W. Griffith's Birth Of A Nation is an important film for a number of reasons,
but historical accuracy is hardly one of them.
The film portrays the KKK as kind, decent, heroic men, and negroes as idiots
REGARDLESS of slave status. It is widely criticized for this flaw, but also
widely accepted and understood to be an important film. D.W. Griffith thought
the way a lot of people still think to this day. Doesn't make his work useless,
but flawed in some very distasteful ways.
By the way, my great grandmother was actually IN Birth of a Nation, so I became
somewhat familiar with this film from an early age. Even as a kid I knew what
was inaccurate and racist, and what was fascinating and accurate, about it.
Linus

"GO BEARCATS" wrote in message
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I don't mind insensitive movies. The best movie I've seen recently was a
heavily edited version of "Head of the Family", which was shown by a
local
TV horror movie host.

So you *are* big or *not* big on racially insensitive. I get mixed
feelings
reading your post. {?}




Generally, I don't think any of the stereotypes are particularly funny, but
not because they are insensitive, but because they get played out so
quickly. The lamest stereotype around now is southern yokel. That guy
stopped being funny about the tenth time Earnest T. Bass showed up.

I would think there's some real comedy potential with the Gangsta' Rappa'
character, but I haven't seen much.

Frank Dresser

"GO BEARCATS" wrote in message
...
Here's Ed's reply to that song being 'insensitive.' LOL
.....................

Once again, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about!
"The Perfect Song" was written as a dreamy song to be sung. I have a copy
of
the words and music somewhere, and there's nothing in those words that is
"racially insensitive"! They are dreamy, philosophical in nature, so I
really
can't see what he's talking about!
If he means that the movie BIRTH OF A NATION portrayed negroes as slaves,
well
then THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS, during the birth of this nation! They were
brought
over here to this country to be SLAVES, to work on the southern cotton
plantations like it or not!
Apparently, he's criticizing the movie because it was historically
accurate!
The movie may have USED the song to enhance the action in it, but that
doesn't
mean that the composer of the song was "racially insensitive"!


Well, I did call the movie racially insensitive and racist. That's a fact,
just as much as it's a fact that slavery was racist. My real critisism of
the movie is that it is boring. I don't remember much more of it, but I do
remember it does portray blacks as either subservient or a threat. I
suppose they could have put in a token negro hero for balance, but then the
movie would have been even worse, because it would have been even more
boring.

I don't know much of anything about the song, I just know it was written for
a racially insensitive, boring movie. I also know the critisism of Amos 'n'
Andy centers around it's presumed racial insensitivity. Yes, I did say
presumed. Presumed by people other than me. I really don't have a strong
opinion of Amos 'n' Andy one way or another. But it does seem strange that
a song from that movie was chosen for the original Amos 'n' Andy.

I'm not critisizing Ed's recreations of Amos 'n' Andy. I don't listen to
them. I don't think many shortwave listeners listen, either. I do know
there's plenty of fans of old time radio out there, but I don't think SW
radio reaches the bulk of them. I think the internet is a good place to
reach the OTR fans.

Ed does seem to take obvservations and comments as critisisms of his show.
I wonder if he's just a little sensitive.

Frank Dresser

"-=jd=-" wrote in message
...


Dave Chappell - "Chappell's Show" on comedy central. It is one show that I
would not have anticipated I would find entertaining as Rap/Hip-Hop is
simply not my cup of tea. However, for skit comedy - he is incredibly
funny. His hilarious parodies of the Gangsta/Rappa/Playa/Hater are too
funny to miss.



-=jd=-


Oh, the hack writers haven't gotten ahold of that one, yet. Is Dave
Chappell a white guy doing it in blackface? That would be almost enough to
get me to buy a cable hookup.

Frank Dresser

What a silly thing to say.

I don't know Pumpkin, I've never saw it, so I can't comment on it. I'll
cut-n-paste your remarks and send it to him and post his reply.

I don't know. {?}

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I wonder if he's just a little sensitive.



Why sure Frank. But he's fair. One in here emailed me and said he had heard Ed
years ago and that the characters didn't sound good (didn't sound like the
originals -like Ed prides himself in and has worked hard to sound *just like
them*.

His reply was something to the affect of "the guy is absolutely right" but then
went on to explain why he sounded like that back then, it was fifteen years ago
if I remember right.

So he is fair, and yes he is sensitive. ;-)

Sorry Linus about the reply to your post, I put Pumpkin, I've been up all night
I forgot your name is Linus.:-)

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A search at the US Copyright Office shows that several dozen
Amos'n'Andy shows still have renewed copyrights on them. The
Amos'n'Andy Show has been available on CD for quite some time and can
be purchased from: http://www.radiospirits.com/

A search at the US Copyright Office shows that several dozen
Amos'n'Andy shows still have renewed copyrights on them. The
Amos'n'Andy Show has been available on CD for quite some time and can
be purchased from: http://www.radiospirits.com/



Sorry Gary, been through this before. I don't know how to actually answer it
because 'A&A' is a difficult program to say "there ares shows or "there are
cd's."

Bottom line: there is NO ONE in th wwwwwwwwworld that does what he does when it
comes to "Amos-n-Andy"....no one.

I will cut-n-paste what you said and will give you the reply. It will be my
last in doing this.:-)

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I will cut-n-paste what you said and will give you the reply. It will be my
last in doing this.:-)

Here it is Gary. Remember, this is from Ed. I knew he'd have the answer. If you
talk about "Amos-n-Andy" you better know what you're talking about, because I
know he does. ;-)
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OK , here's your ammunition: HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT!
Radio Spirits has Amos n Andy broadcasts that were on CBS in the 40's and are a
HALF-HOUR LONG! Some of them feature guest movie actors, etc. with a live
orchestra and live audience applauding and laughing in chorus.
I have some of those programs in my own collection.
However, they were NOT THE FIRST FIFTEEN-MINUTE versions of A&A, which were
NEVER RECORDED!
This guy's just a "CRANK"! He just wants to pick apart everything I'm doing,
because he's a typical politically-correct LIBERAL!!!
He's an example of why Amos n Andy is not being broadcast anywhere on any radio
stations. It's precisely this attitude which has poisoned the atmosphere for
Amos n Andy.
Yet it's OK for the low-lives who dominate television and radio and CD's these
days to use foul language, use sexual references, swear and take the name of
our Lord our God in vain and even to kill each other (as in "Ice Tea killing
his rap rival recently out of jealousy)...........NONE of which Amos n Andy are
guilty of!
Amos n Andy are God-fearing people. They never use foul language, nor do they
take the name of the Lord in vain. They don't use drugs or alcohol. They never
refer to sex; they only fall in love with a woman, and Amos is faithful to Ruby
Taylor, even though Andy can't get his act together, but that's part of the
comedy in the ongoing story.
This guy's a "crank"!
And as far as copyrights are concerned, these programs I'm doing have been
ruled IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, so once again, this guy's FULL of it!
Ed

GO BEARCATS wrote:

Here it is Gary. Remember, this is from Ed. I knew he'd have the answer. If you
talk about "Amos-n-Andy" you better know what you're talking about, because I
know he does. ;-)
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OK , here's your ammunition: HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT!
Radio Spirits has Amos n Andy broadcasts that were on CBS in the 40's and are a
HALF-HOUR LONG! Some of them feature guest movie actors, etc. with a live
orchestra and live audience applauding and laughing in chorus.
I have some of those programs in my own collection.
However, they were NOT THE FIRST FIFTEEN-MINUTE versions of A&A, which were
NEVER RECORDED!

Well, even Ed isn't entirely correct, the early A&A shows were recorded
for syndication. This is from Elizibeth McLeod's web site, who knows
more about A&A than anyone on the planet, including Mr Ed. "Arrangements
were made with Marsh Laboratories of Chicago to make advance recordings
of each episode on 12" 78rpm discs -- which would be distributed to
subscribing stations for airing in synchronization with the live
broadcast from WMAQ."
So the shows were recorded, however as explained in an earlier post, the
recordings were to be destroyed after use, and that is why only a few
(less than sixty) are known to survive.

Sorry I misunderstood the real topic. My concern was that I, myself,
had recently received an email from the copyright holder of an old tv
series that I was selling on ebay. Problem was, I purchased the set I
had from a reliable video store and was only selling the set I
purchased. I wasn't making any copies but was threatened by a big
lawsuit. Just wanted to give a friendly warning but now see I didn't
understand what you were talking about. My apologies.