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Air America down the crapper
Dam Commie's, Good for them ! http://drudgereport.com/flash5.htm
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John Lyder wrote: Dam Commie's, Good for them ! http://drudgereport.com/flash5.htm LOL... it's just too damn funny! |
"N8KDV" wrote in message ... John Lyder wrote: Dam Commie's, Good for them ! http://drudgereport.com/flash5.htm LOL... it's just too damn funny! They appear to be doing about as well as Franken's "Stuart Smalley" movie.... "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and, doggone it, people like me!" Guess not. Does this mean Caribbean music will be back on the NYC outlet? Or just that everyone on Air America will "volunteer" their services :) |
:) :) what a bunch of nimrod morons !!
ROTFL -John "N8KDV" wrote in message ... John Lyder wrote: Dam Commie's, Good for them ! http://drudgereport.com/flash5.htm LOL... it's just too damn funny! |
Quoth "John Lyder" in
: Dam Commie's, Good for them ! What's Communist about Air America? I've listnened to them. They sound like real patriots to me. http://drudgereport.com/flash5.htm Typically information-free Drudge. Here's the whole Tribune story so far: Air America Radio chief resigns By John Cook Tribune staff reporter May 6, 2004, 6:01 PM CDT In yet another sign of trouble for Air America Radio, the liberal talk network entering its fifth chaotic week on the air, co-founder and chairman Evan Cohen resigned Thursday, as did vice-chairman and investor Rex Sorensen. The company also failed to make its scheduled payroll Wednesday, leaving its staff roughly 100 radio personalities, writers, and producers unpaid until Thursday. "We're on a wild ride," said Jon Sinton, the network's president, acknowledging that Air America has suffered "the typical bumps and bruises faced by any start-up." "But the bottom line," he said, "is that we are on the air to stay." The departures of Cohen, a former Republican political operative from Guam who was among the network's initial investors, and Sorenson, an investor who owns radio stations in Guam, mark the second executive shake-up at the fledgling network in as many weeks. Last week, co-founder and CEO Mark Walsh resigned (he remains a senior adviser to the network) and programming chief Dave Logan was forced out. Replacements for Walsh and Cohen have yet to be named. Asked when those executive positions would be filled, Sinton replied: "I wouldn't hold my breath." ======= Sounds like a start-up company having cashflow trouble. Also sounds like their staff needs trimming by about 3/4. But it doesn't sound Communist. -- "I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S. |
That and perhaps they will re-apply for there old jobs at Saturday Night
Live, since half the cast is walking. Does this mean Caribbean music will be back on the NYC outlet? Or just that everyone on Air America will "volunteer" their services :) |
Tom Betz wrote: Quoth "John Lyder" in : Dam Commie's, Good for them ! What's Communist about Air America? I've listnened to them. They sound like real patriots to me. Yeah, like that 'patriot' who's told you about how he got scratched in Vietnam and now he's like a hero or something... And how he threw his medals/ribbons/balls or whatever over the White House fence. They sound like that don't they? |
John Lyder wrote: That and perhaps they will re-apply for there old jobs at Saturday Night Live, since half the cast is walking. Walking cast.... LOL! |
"Tom Betz" wrote in message 0... Sounds like a start-up company having cashflow trouble. Also sounds like their staff needs trimming by about 3/4. But it doesn't sound Communist. I can't agree with the start-up analogy. They are hardly a bunch of people who started in a garage with a dream and found themselves in over their heads before working out the angles. They had a considerable period of time to scope out this entire concept, get people on board who knew what they were doing, and apply rational business principles before beginning the entire operation. Apparently they did not. The people behind it should have known better -before- getting their feet wet. The fact that they are having this much trouble this early on bodes badly because it calls into question the initial knowledge behind the entire enterprise. Frankly, I initially wrote off the carping from some conservative broadcasters as sour grapes, but it's sure beginning to look like they were right. |
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"T. Early" wrote: "Tom Betz" wrote in message 0... Sounds like a start-up company having cashflow trouble. Also sounds like their staff needs trimming by about 3/4. But it doesn't sound Communist. I can't agree with the start-up analogy. They are hardly a bunch of people who started in a garage with a dream and found themselves in over their heads before working out the angles. They had a considerable period of time to scope out this entire concept, get people on board who knew what they were doing, and apply rational business principles before beginning the entire operation. Apparently they did not. The people behind it should have known better -before- getting their feet wet. The fact that they are having this much trouble this early on bodes badly because it calls into question the initial knowledge behind the entire enterprise. Frankly, I initially wrote off the carping from some conservative broadcasters as sour grapes, but it's sure beginning to look like they were right. This thing won't run past next December. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Tom Betz wrote: Quoth "John Lyder" in : Dam Commie's, Good for them ! What's Communist about Air America? I've listnened to them. They sound like real patriots to me. http://drudgereport.com/flash5.htm Typically information-free Drudge. Here's the whole Tribune story so far: Air America Radio chief resigns By John Cook Tribune staff reporter May 6, 2004, 6:01 PM CDT In yet another sign of trouble for Air America Radio, the liberal talk network entering its fifth chaotic week on the air, co-founder and chairman Evan Cohen resigned Thursday, as did vice-chairman and investor Rex Sorensen. The company also failed to make its scheduled payroll Wednesday, leaving its staff roughly 100 radio personalities, writers, and producers unpaid until Thursday. "We're on a wild ride," said Jon Sinton, the network's president, acknowledging that Air America has suffered "the typical bumps and bruises faced by any start-up." "But the bottom line," he said, "is that we are on the air to stay." The departures of Cohen, a former Republican political operative from Guam who was among the network's initial investors, and Sorenson, an investor who owns radio stations in Guam, mark the second executive shake-up at the fledgling network in as many weeks. Last week, co-founder and CEO Mark Walsh resigned (he remains a senior adviser to the network) and programming chief Dave Logan was forced out. Replacements for Walsh and Cohen have yet to be named. Asked when those executive positions would be filled, Sinton replied: "I wouldn't hold my breath." ======= Sounds like a start-up company having cashflow trouble. Also sounds like their staff needs trimming by about 3/4. But it doesn't sound Communist. Not working for pay sounds communist to me. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Telamon wrote:
Sounds like a start-up company having cashflow trouble. Also sounds like their staff needs trimming by about 3/4. But it doesn't sound Communist. Not working for pay sounds communist to me. The real communist credo was 'working for NO pay'. Those *******s ruined the lives of countless millions..that's if they didn't kill them outright. http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MEGA.HTM mike |
m II wrote: The real communist credo was 'working for NO pay'. Those *******s ruined the lives of countless millions..that's if they didn't kill them outright. http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MEGA.HTM mike Or as the old Soviet joke went, "We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us." |
John Lyder wrote:
Dam Commie's, Good for them ! http://drudgereport.com/flash5.htm It looks like the backers decided it's not going to make it and bailed to avoid tossing good money after bad. They might last to the election, but I wouldn't bet on it unless they find ways to cut costs dramatically. Since it's not a defense program, I think that's unlikely. |
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Larry Ozarow wrote:
Or as the old Soviet joke went, "We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us." So true. I remember a couple.. A Russian is explaining the the difference in systems to a Westerner. He explains "In the Capitalist West, you see, it's a dog eat dog scenario, whereas HERE, it's exactly the OTHER way around." There was a car race in which there was only an American car and a communist Russian car competing. The propaganda was important for both countries. The race was run, with the Americans winning. In the Russian newspapers the next morning, the headline read "Russian car finishes second from first, American finishes second from LAST!" ...and it was still 'pravda' mike |
And who are these conservative broadcasters you're talking about?
There are a lot of extreme-right-wing wack jobs claiming to be conservative but they are lying (about everything). They are the most bitter and humorless collection of pathetic yakes I have ever seen. It's like somebody found a piece of Joe Pyne and cloned him. Like most start-ups in the media, I suggest you enjoy AAR while you can. If you really want a leftie to fear, I suggest you check out Ed Schultz. On Fri, 7 May 2004 01:07:01 -0400, "T. Early" wrote: "Tom Betz" wrote in message . 70... Sounds like a start-up company having cashflow trouble. Also sounds like their staff needs trimming by about 3/4. But it doesn't sound Communist. I can't agree with the start-up analogy. They are hardly a bunch of people who started in a garage with a dream and found themselves in over their heads before working out the angles. They had a considerable period of time to scope out this entire concept, get people on board who knew what they were doing, and apply rational business principles before beginning the entire operation. Apparently they did not. The people behind it should have known better -before- getting their feet wet. The fact that they are having this much trouble this early on bodes badly because it calls into question the initial knowledge behind the entire enterprise. Frankly, I initially wrote off the carping from some conservative broadcasters as sour grapes, but it's sure beginning to look like they were right. |
"David" wrote in message ... And who are these conservative broadcasters you're talking about? There are a lot of extreme-right-wing wack jobs claiming to be conservative but they are lying (about everything). They are the most bitter and humorless collection of pathetic yakes I have ever seen. It's like somebody found a piece of Joe Pyne and cloned him. I really wasn't making a comment on the "believability" of these guys--only that some of the predicitons I'd heard about Air America, and originally discounted, seem to be coming true. But since you brought it up, and having read some of your "thoughts" on the issues, I bow to your greater experience with bitterness and humorlessness. |
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"John Lyder" wrote ...
Dam Commie's, Good for them ! http://drudgereport.com/flash5.htm Who needsa buncha Kommie-Krats anyway. RUSH RULES ! ! ! ! NEIL BOORTZ RULES ! ! ! ! MICHAEL REAGAN RULES ! ! ! http://www.boortz.com/ (Check out the "boo gah shah" clip.) http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html http://www.reagan.com/ |
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: (LW) Who needsa buncha Kommie-Krats anyway. So, you still won't say why you auctioned your radios off? For an RNC donation of course! |
"Tom Betz" wrote in message 0... Sounds like a start-up company having cashflow trouble. Also sounds like their staff needs trimming by about 3/4. But it doesn't sound Communist. Fire 'em all, and give the network to Alex Jones. AJ may be prone to peculiar thought processes, but he's at least twice the talk show host of anyone they have on the air now. Frank Dresser |
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "Tom Betz" wrote in message 0... Sounds like a start-up company having cashflow trouble. Also sounds like their staff needs trimming by about 3/4. But it doesn't sound Communist. Fire 'em all, and give the network to Alex Jones. AJ may be prone to peculiar thought processes, but he's at least twice the talk show host of anyone they have on the air now. Frank Dresser AJ for President! |
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"MnMikew" wrote in message ... AJ for President! That's an excellent idea! Just imagine what the Alex Jones show would be like once the Jones administration started up. President Jones is evil! President Jones is a tool of the Illuminati! President Jones worships Satan! And Alex Jones could be even more sure of his facts than he is now, once he gets a high level source in the White House. Frank Dresser |
"T. Early" wrote in message ... I can't agree with the start-up analogy. They are hardly a bunch of people who started in a garage with a dream and found themselves in over their heads before working out the angles. They had a considerable period of time to scope out this entire concept, get people on board who knew what they were doing, and apply rational business principles before beginning the entire operation. Apparently they did not. The people behind it should have known better -before- getting their feet wet. The fact that they are having this much trouble this early on bodes badly because it calls into question the initial knowledge behind the entire enterprise. It looks like the backers of Air America have decided switching horses in the middle of the stream is better than the alternative: The Los Angeles Times reports: "Company President Jon Sinton told the Chicago Tribune...that Cohen resigned because other investors weren't happy with how he handled a financial dispute with affiliate stations in Los Angeles and Chicago, which resulted in the network's going off the air in those cities, with no replacements yet lined up." The Times also reports, "Air America also missed its payroll this week by one day, for what insiders called technical reasons." http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradi.../aa050804a.htm "Technical reasons"? Way to go! They may not have the first clue on how to run a radio network, but they sure know how to speak and yet not say anything! I haven't paid alot of attention to the small brokered stations around here in Chicago lately, but a few weeks ago, it did sound like there was airtime available in the afternoon. One station was playing oldies without advertising. I'd think they could have gotten Al Franken back on the air, at least. Frankly, I initially wrote off the carping from some conservative broadcasters as sour grapes, but it's sure beginning to look like they were right. The backround stories on Air America are far more interesting than their programming. Their on-air hosts sounded "overcoached". Frank Dresser |
How much listening are you doing? Except for Franken (who's not half
bad) and Garafolo (who pretty much sucks) the rest of the shows seem pretty competent and well done. Franken is entertaining at times and shows promise but is a tad less audience empathetic and tends to experiment too much. It certainly is a refreshing change of pace from all the Right Wingers parroting Ed Gillespie bullet points over and over like some kind of Nazi propaganda channel. On Sat, 08 May 2004 18:06:31 GMT, "Frank Dresser" wrote: "T. Early" wrote in message ... I can't agree with the start-up analogy. They are hardly a bunch of people who started in a garage with a dream and found themselves in over their heads before working out the angles. They had a considerable period of time to scope out this entire concept, get people on board who knew what they were doing, and apply rational business principles before beginning the entire operation. Apparently they did not. The people behind it should have known better -before- getting their feet wet. The fact that they are having this much trouble this early on bodes badly because it calls into question the initial knowledge behind the entire enterprise. It looks like the backers of Air America have decided switching horses in the middle of the stream is better than the alternative: The Los Angeles Times reports: "Company President Jon Sinton told the Chicago Tribune...that Cohen resigned because other investors weren't happy with how he handled a financial dispute with affiliate stations in Los Angeles and Chicago, which resulted in the network's going off the air in those cities, with no replacements yet lined up." The Times also reports, "Air America also missed its payroll this week by one day, for what insiders called technical reasons." http://radio.about.com/cs/latestradi.../aa050804a.htm "Technical reasons"? Way to go! They may not have the first clue on how to run a radio network, but they sure know how to speak and yet not say anything! I haven't paid alot of attention to the small brokered stations around here in Chicago lately, but a few weeks ago, it did sound like there was airtime available in the afternoon. One station was playing oldies without advertising. I'd think they could have gotten Al Franken back on the air, at least. Frankly, I initially wrote off the carping from some conservative broadcasters as sour grapes, but it's sure beginning to look like they were right. The backround stories on Air America are far more interesting than their programming. Their on-air hosts sounded "overcoached". Frank Dresser |
"David" wrote in message ... How much listening are you doing? I haven't done any listening since Air America stopped broadcasting in Chicago. I was a semi-regular before that. Except for Franken (who's not half bad) and Garafolo (who pretty much sucks) the rest of the shows seem pretty competent and well done. Franken is entertaining at times and shows promise but is a tad less audience empathetic and tends to experiment too much. Franken is a good writer, and performs his own stuff reasonably well. I think his real difficulty was having a good conversation with the callers. I don't think his partner added much to the show. I found Liz Whatever particularly annoying. She'd toss out lame wisecracks and keep trying to get the joke to click while the others were trying to talk to a caller or each other. I thought most of the other hosts were, talent-wise, maybe about as good as the average Limbaugh clone. That's not terrible, and guys like Michael Medved and Sean Hannity somehow manage to get alot of listeners. But some of the obligitary Bush/Republican bashing sounded forced. Maybe I'd have liked the shows better if the hosts were allowed to present themselves as interesting individuals. It also seemed to me that they were trying to patch styleistic elements of Limbaugh's, Hannity's and Stern's shows into their own. At times, it sounded clunky. Chuck D had his interesting moments. On one of weekend night shows, he was talking about illiteracy in the black community. Not just reading illiteracy, but the problems which occur for people who don't even know the meaning of a large percentage of words in standard english. For the moment, he wasn't bashing the Republicans or praising some fix-it presented by the Democratic Party. He was describing a problem which most Americans are, at best, vaguely aware of. It was the most thoughtful thing I'd heard on Air America. It certainly is a refreshing change of pace from all the Right Wingers parroting Ed Gillespie bullet points over and over like some kind of Nazi propaganda channel. There's an audience for the Limbaugh clones, so maybe there's an audience for their flip sides. Neither side seems engaging to me. The Air America hosts seemed a bit less strident to me during the last week of April, but I wasn't listening much then. Frank Dresser |
Frank Dresser wrote:
Chuck D had his interesting moments. On one of weekend night shows, he was talking about illiteracy in the black community. Not just reading illiteracy, but the problems which occur for people who don't even know the meaning of a large percentage of words in standard english. For the moment, he wasn't bashing the Republicans or praising some fix-it presented by the Democratic Party. He was describing a problem which most Americans are, at best, vaguely aware of. It was the most thoughtful thing I'd heard on Air America. Chuck D is an interesting guy. I was a big fan of Public Enemy as a teenager, and a lot of their rap while angry was right on. D is highly intelligent and knows what he's talking about in my view. |
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