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![]() Michael 'I know I lie, but I cain't help it' Bryant wrote: From: (LW) Neo indicates "new". I'm not new to conservatism. Been here forever. Till the "other side" can produce something better than Clintons and Gores and Kerrys and Kennedys, I'll be right here. Real, oldtime, conservatives were opposed to unrestrained spending, US foreign adventurism and violations of the Constitution. Neo-cons don't mind those things, at all, as long as they work to increase their political hold on the country. Real, oldtime, educators would never have thought to lie about their academic credentials. |
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![]() "Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: (LW) Neo indicates "new". I'm not new to conservatism. Been here forever. Till the "other side" can produce something better than Clintons and Gores and Kerrys and Kennedys, I'll be right here. Real, oldtime, conservatives were opposed to unrestrained spending, US foreign adventurism and violations of the Constitution. Neo-cons don't mind those things, at all, as long as they work to increase their political hold on the country. How can I put this diplomatically and in a non-judgmental manner? OK....you have no idea what you are talking about here. |
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![]() "Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: "T. Early" Real, oldtime, conservatives were opposed to unrestrained spending, US foreign adventurism and violations of the Constitution. Neo-cons don't mind those things, at all, as long as they work to increase their political hold on the country. How can I put this diplomatically and in a non-judgmental manner? OK....you have no idea what you are talking about here. A response with neither analysis or evidence. And an obvious lie about judgementalism. I think you can do better. I did. I just didn't feel like repeating it. See my post somewhat earlier about your misconceptions regarding the term neo-con. You know, basic stuff like what the word means ![]() |
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![]() "LW" wrote in message m... ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote ... How come all you neocons that are so busy rationalizing a moral base for torture are ignoring the words of your own leader? All neocons? Painting with a rather wide brush here, yes? What *exactly* is a "neocon"? From Ask Jeeves: Neoconservative - A "neocon" is more inclined than other conservatives toward vigorous government in the service of the goals of traditional morality and pro-business policies. Tends to favor a very strong foreign policy of America as well. |
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![]() "Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message ... "LW" wrote in message m... ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote ... How come all you neocons that are so busy rationalizing a moral base for torture are ignoring the words of your own leader? All neocons? Painting with a rather wide brush here, yes? What *exactly* is a "neocon"? From Ask Jeeves: Neoconservative - A "neocon" is more inclined than other conservatives toward vigorous government in the service of the goals of traditional morality and pro-business policies. Tends to favor a very strong foreign policy of America as well. This is OK, but any definition that makes the "strong foreign policy" aspects of neo-conservatism an afterthought is less than adequate. It is the dissatisfaction with the left's appeasement of the Soviet Union that was at the core of the origins of the neoconservative movement. Since the -true- neoconservative is a former liberal (something I haven't been able to get through Mr. Bryant's head), the part about "vigorous government" is pretty close since many neocons are closer to liberals on domestic policy. |
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