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Air Force One callsign when not AF1?
I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's
casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000" (or 29000)? If anyone hears it on Wednesday or Friday, please post a followup to this query. I'm not in its flight path so won't be able to listen for it myself. Patty |
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In article , Patty Winter wrote:
I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000" (or 29000)? By definition any airplane with the president of the U.S. on board uses the callsign "Air Force One". The "flying office" of the president is called Air Force One, but it does not use that callsign when the president is not in it. I assume they have real callsigns, (there are two of them) not just 28000 and 29000. However N28000 used to be registered to someone else. I'm sure they have callsigns besides Air Force One that they use when they don't want to announce their presence, Let's face it, "Bagdad tower, this is Air Force One, 25 miles out at 10,000 feet on course 180.", is not something they would want to say over unencrypted VHF radio. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson |
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: In article , Patty Winter wrote: I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000" (or 29000)? The "flying office" of the president is called Air Force One, but it does not use that callsign when the president is not in it. Yes, I know. That's why I don't think the plane will actually be using the callsign AF1 despite news reports to that effect, and therefore why I posted my query. I live near Moffett Field and have heard the planes come in under the AF1 callsign numerous times. Part of the final approach that a 747 takes to Moffett is easy for me to see, so I usually run outside with the binocs when it happens. One of the shuttle carrier 747s was in town for the airshow recently, but I missed its entrance and exit. Should've left the 2010 on more. :-) And Steve (in another posting), you're right--it is 28000. I'm seeing some live shots of it on the ground at Point Mugu. Patty |
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Patty Winter wrote: In article , Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: In article , Patty Winter wrote: I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000" (or 29000)? The "flying office" of the president is called Air Force One, but it does not use that callsign when the president is not in it. Yes, I know. That's why I don't think the plane will actually be using the callsign AF1 despite news reports to that effect, and therefore why I posted my query. I live near Moffett Field and have heard the planes come in under the AF1 callsign numerous times. Part of the final approach that a 747 takes to Moffett is easy for me to see, so I usually run outside with the binocs when it happens. One of the shuttle carrier 747s was in town for the airshow recently, but I missed its entrance and exit. Should've left the 2010 on more. :-) And Steve (in another posting), you're right--it is 28000. I'm seeing some live shots of it on the ground at Point Mugu. Yes, and Peter Jennings referred to it as Special Air Mission 28000. |
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Air force 1 is based in andrews and is part of the 84 or 89 th special
airlift wing. If you run a google search for usaf special misison wing, you might be able to get the hull numbers and such about af 1 "dxAce" wrote in message ... Patty Winter wrote: In article , Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: In article , Patty Winter wrote: I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000" (or 29000)? The "flying office" of the president is called Air Force One, but it does not use that callsign when the president is not in it. Yes, I know. That's why I don't think the plane will actually be using the callsign AF1 despite news reports to that effect, and therefore why I posted my query. I live near Moffett Field and have heard the planes come in under the AF1 callsign numerous times. Part of the final approach that a 747 takes to Moffett is easy for me to see, so I usually run outside with the binocs when it happens. One of the shuttle carrier 747s was in town for the airshow recently, but I missed its entrance and exit. Should've left the 2010 on more. :-) And Steve (in another posting), you're right--it is 28000. I'm seeing some live shots of it on the ground at Point Mugu. Yes, and Peter Jennings referred to it as Special Air Mission 28000. |
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On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 13:30:28 -0700, Steve Silverwood
wrote: In article , says... In article , Patty Winter wrote: I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000" (or 29000)? By definition any airplane with the president of the U.S. on board uses the callsign "Air Force One". Wrong, it is Air Forece One only if it is an Aircraft operated by the USAF, on the Helicopter (which is operated by the Maries) , it is Marine 1, on the C2 it was Navy One, on an army aircraft, it would be Army 1... The "flying office" of the president is called Air Force One, but it does not use that callsign when the president is not in it. I assume they have real callsigns, (there are two of them) not just 28000 and 29000. However N28000 used to be registered to someone else. I'm sure they have callsigns besides Air Force One that they use when they don't want to announce their presence, Let's face it, "Bagdad tower, this is Air Force One, 25 miles out at 10,000 feet on course 180.", is not something they would want to say over unencrypted VHF radio. Correct. When not using the official designation, it's "SAM 28000" instead. |
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Helos enroute to airports with the President on board for transfer to the
plane called Airforce One/Two are called Marine One/Two. "Steve Silverwood" wrote in message t... In article , says... In article , Patty Winter wrote: I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000" (or 29000)? By definition any airplane with the president of the U.S. on board uses the callsign "Air Force One". The "flying office" of the president is called Air Force One, but it does not use that callsign when the president is not in it. I assume they have real callsigns, (there are two of them) not just 28000 and 29000. However N28000 used to be registered to someone else. I'm sure they have callsigns besides Air Force One that they use when they don't want to announce their presence, Let's face it, "Bagdad tower, this is Air Force One, 25 miles out at 10,000 feet on course 180.", is not something they would want to say over unencrypted VHF radio. Correct. When not using the official designation, it's "SAM 28000" instead. -- -- //Steve// Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS Fountain Valley, CA Email: |
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Patty Winter wrote: I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000" (or 29000)? If anyone hears it on Wednesday or Friday, please post a followup to this query. I'm not in its flight path so won't be able to listen for it myself. It may use the designation SAM 28000 (Special Air Mission). It may be possible to hear the flight on VHF and/or UHF ATC frequencies. I'll be listening on 11175 USB myself. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
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dxAce wrote: Patty Winter wrote: I keep hearing that "Air Force One" will be carrying Pres. Reagan's casket between California and Washington, D.C., but it won't really be using that callsign, will it? Won't it just be "Air Force 28000" (or 29000)? If anyone hears it on Wednesday or Friday, please post a followup to this query. I'm not in its flight path so won't be able to listen for it myself. It may use the designation SAM 28000 (Special Air Mission). It may be possible to hear the flight on VHF and/or UHF ATC frequencies. I'll be listening on 11175 USB myself. ABC News is reporting that President Reagan's body will be flown on Air Force One (though I doubt that callsign will be used, it is always a possibility) to Washington today via the Pt. Mugu Naval Air Station which is near Oxnard, CA. It was reported ealier that the aircraft will be tail #28000. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
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