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Drifter June 30th 04 08:15 PM

hay Steve; ant question?????
 
built your 10:1 balum about 2 months ago. use it
on a long wire, about 110 ft from the house/ down
the middle of the back yard. works great. now for
the question! picked up a dx-ultra/alpha delta at
the last hamfest. new in the bag for $50. not bad.
this ant is made to run as an inverted V. coax off
the center. if i hang the center about 10 ft above
my roof off a tripod, and run the 2 legs to the left
and right side of my back yard/ the long wire will
be about 10 ft below the center and the legs will
go off to the sides about 35 degrees. (whew!) the
question is will the long wire have any affect on
the inverted V? i know for transmit this would be
bad/ how bout only receive? hope i explained this
so you can understand what i mean...
thanks Steve...
Drifter...

dxAce June 30th 04 10:41 PM



Drifter wrote:

built your 10:1 balum about 2 months ago. use it
on a long wire, about 110 ft from the house/ down
the middle of the back yard. works great. now for
the question! picked up a dx-ultra/alpha delta at
the last hamfest. new in the bag for $50. not bad.
this ant is made to run as an inverted V. coax off
the center. if i hang the center about 10 ft above
my roof off a tripod, and run the 2 legs to the left
and right side of my back yard/ the long wire will
be about 10 ft below the center and the legs will
go off to the sides about 35 degrees. (whew!) the
question is will the long wire have any affect on
the inverted V? i know for transmit this would be
bad/ how bout only receive? hope i explained this
so you can understand what i mean...
thanks Steve...
Drifter...


I don't think it will have much effect if the wires on the dipole cross
the wire at pretty much right angles.

Though there could still be a bit of residual pick up I don't think
you'd notice it.

Do some experimentation if you can by disconnecting and/or dropping the
wire and see what happens.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B



RSMTMN June 30th 04 11:10 PM

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:41:07 -0400, dxAce wrote:



Drifter wrote:

built your 10:1 balum about 2 months ago. use it
on a long wire, about 110 ft from the house/ down
the middle of the back yard. works great. now for
the question! picked up a dx-ultra/alpha delta at
the last hamfest. new in the bag for $50. not bad.
this ant is made to run as an inverted V. coax off
the center. if i hang the center about 10 ft above
my roof off a tripod, and run the 2 legs to the left
and right side of my back yard/ the long wire will
be about 10 ft below the center and the legs will
go off to the sides about 35 degrees. (whew!) the
question is will the long wire have any affect on
the inverted V? i know for transmit this would be
bad/ how bout only receive? hope i explained this
so you can understand what i mean...
thanks Steve...
Drifter...


I don't think it will have much effect if the wires on the dipole cross
the wire at pretty much right angles.

Though there could still be a bit of residual pick up I don't think
you'd notice it.

Do some experimentation if you can by disconnecting and/or dropping the
wire and see what happens.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

why would anyone listen to a horses ass such as yourself?

redrum July 1st 04 12:03 AM

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:10:37 GMT,RSMTMN
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:41:07 -0400, dxAce wrote:



Drifter wrote:

built your 10:1 balum about 2 months ago. use it
on a long wire, about 110 ft from the house/ down
the middle of the back yard. works great. now for
the question! picked up a dx-ultra/alpha delta at
the last hamfest. new in the bag for $50. not bad.
this ant is made to run as an inverted V. coax off
the center. if i hang the center about 10 ft above
my roof off a tripod, and run the 2 legs to the left
and right side of my back yard/ the long wire will
be about 10 ft below the center and the legs will
go off to the sides about 35 degrees. (whew!) the
question is will the long wire have any affect on
the inverted V? i know for transmit this would be
bad/ how bout only receive? hope i explained this
so you can understand what i mean...
thanks Steve...
Drifter...


I don't think it will have much effect if the wires on the dipole cross
the wire at pretty much right angles.

Though there could still be a bit of residual pick up I don't think
you'd notice it.

Do some experimentation if you can by disconnecting and/or dropping the
wire and see what happens.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

why would anyone listen to a horses ass such as yourself?


He's got alot of technical knowledge but he seems to have the social
skills of a Neanderthal. Typical ham, probably a loner who can't
communicate on a one to one basis. No family because he can't relate
to anyone else except himself. That's why he uses radio and this
medium to communicate with others. If he insulted people in real life
the way he does here he would be put in his place with a good shot to
the face.

Dale Parfitt July 1st 04 12:06 AM


why would anyone listen to a horses ass such as yourself?


Let's hear your answer.

W4OP



Jim Douglas July 1st 04 12:51 AM

Right, he posts an adult answer then you reply with this teenage girl
remark!

"RSMTMN" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:41:07 -0400, dxAce wrote:



Drifter wrote:

built your 10:1 balum about 2 months ago. use it
on a long wire, about 110 ft from the house/ down
the middle of the back yard. works great. now for
the question! picked up a dx-ultra/alpha delta at
the last hamfest. new in the bag for $50. not bad.
this ant is made to run as an inverted V. coax off
the center. if i hang the center about 10 ft above
my roof off a tripod, and run the 2 legs to the left
and right side of my back yard/ the long wire will
be about 10 ft below the center and the legs will
go off to the sides about 35 degrees. (whew!) the
question is will the long wire have any affect on
the inverted V? i know for transmit this would be
bad/ how bout only receive? hope i explained this
so you can understand what i mean...
thanks Steve...
Drifter...


I don't think it will have much effect if the wires on the dipole cross
the wire at pretty much right angles.

Though there could still be a bit of residual pick up I don't think
you'd notice it.

Do some experimentation if you can by disconnecting and/or dropping the
wire and see what happens.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

why would anyone listen to a horses ass such as yourself?




Drifter July 1st 04 01:52 AM

thanks Steve. see what you mean. if it appears there is
an interaction, i could drop the long wire 10 ft and clear
the V by 20 ft, and still have the long wire 20 ft off the
ground. if i can get the grand kids over this weekend, we'll
give her a try. the long wire is tied off to a pulley, so
i can take her up or down. thanks Steve, have a great 4th...
Drifter...

dxAce July 1st 04 02:29 AM



Drifter wrote:

thanks Steve. see what you mean. if it appears there is
an interaction, i could drop the long wire 10 ft and clear
the V by 20 ft, and still have the long wire 20 ft off the
ground. if i can get the grand kids over this weekend, we'll
give her a try. the long wire is tied off to a pulley, so
i can take her up or down. thanks Steve, have a great 4th...
Drifter...


Have a great weekend.



RHF July 1st 04 10:56 AM

= = = Drifter wrote in message
= = = ...
built your 10:1 balum about 2 months ago. use it
on a long wire, about 110 ft from the house/ down
the middle of the back yard. works great. now for
the question! picked up a dx-ultra/alpha delta at
the last hamfest. new in the bag for $50. not bad.
this ant is made to run as an inverted V. coax off
the center. if i hang the center about 10 ft above
my roof off a tripod, and run the 2 legs to the left
and right side of my back yard/ the long wire will
be about 10 ft below the center and the legs will
go off to the sides about 35 degrees. (whew!) the
question is will the long wire have any affect on
the inverted V? i know for transmit this would be
bad/ how bout only receive? hope i explained this
so you can understand what i mean...
thanks Steve...
Drifter...



DRIFTER,

"the legs will go off to the sides about 35 degrees."

Naturally looking from the Side your Inverted "V" is an Inverted "V".

Question: Looking from the Top/Bottom is your Antenna "Flat"
(in a Straight Line) or is it also "V"ed ?

iwtk ~ RHF

..

Road Rage July 1st 04 11:57 AM

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:29:23 -0400, dxAce wrote:



Drifter wrote:

thanks Steve. see what you mean. if it appears there is
an interaction, i could drop the long wire 10 ft and clear
the V by 20 ft, and still have the long wire 20 ft off the
ground. if i can get the grand kids over this weekend, we'll
give her a try. the long wire is tied off to a pulley, so
i can take her up or down. thanks Steve, have a great 4th...
Drifter...


Have a great weekend.



Stick a bottle rocket up yer arse ****** Your comments are not
welcome in this group.


Drifter July 1st 04 12:09 PM

antenna is V- ed. not in a straight line. the limited
instruction that came with the ant shows a picture of
a V inline/ straight. i know what your thinking; me too.
i contacted alpha-delta and ask about this, they said
i could mount it center up and legs at 90 degrees with
almost no lose of receive eff. it almost becomes a
double sloper at less than 90 degrees. been a long time
that i played with ant. the alpha-delta will be 40 ft and
the long wire will be lowered to 20 ft. like Steve said-
play with and see what ya get. almost ready to retire here,
so, i got time before the winter returns..
thanks really high frequency. let you guys know how i
make out here...
Drifter...

dxAce July 1st 04 12:20 PM



Road Rage wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 21:29:23 -0400, dxAce wrote:



Drifter wrote:

thanks Steve. see what you mean. if it appears there is
an interaction, i could drop the long wire 10 ft and clear
the V by 20 ft, and still have the long wire 20 ft off the
ground. if i can get the grand kids over this weekend, we'll
give her a try. the long wire is tied off to a pulley, so
i can take her up or down. thanks Steve, have a great 4th...
Drifter...


Have a great weekend.



Stick a bottle rocket up yer arse ****** Your comments are not
welcome in this group.


And another new ID with no history on Google.



Drifter July 1st 04 04:00 PM

complaint filed with rcn.

RHF July 2nd 04 07:45 AM

= = = Drifter wrote in message
= = = ...

antenna is V- ed. not in a straight line. the limited
instruction that came with the ant shows a picture of
a V inline/ straight. i know what your thinking; me too.
i contacted alpha-delta and ask about this, they said
i could mount it center up and legs at 90 degrees with
almost no lose of receive eff. it almost becomes a
double sloper at less than 90 degrees. been a long time
that i played with ant. the alpha-delta will be 40 ft and
the long wire will be lowered to 20 ft. like Steve said-
play with and see what ya get. almost ready to retire here,
so, i got time before the winter returns..
thanks really high frequency. let you guys know how i
make out here...
Drifter...

..

DRIFTER,

If as you describe your current Antenna set-up with the Top-Fed
Double Sloper laid out in a Horizontal "V". IIRC the reception
pattern of this Antenna configuration tends to be 'directional'
from the Apex of the "V" towards the End-Tips.

~ RHF

..

Drifter July 2nd 04 11:40 AM

some thing to ponder. the legs will be about
80 to 90 degrees apart. from 40ft high to 10ft low on
a 60 degree slop. i'll fire another email to alpha-delta
and check on the directional pattern of this set-up. i
had given some thought to the side to side and end to end
of a long wire. guess i'll get an education on this one.
it all seemed easy back in the 50s/60s when i was a kid with
a new ticket. (lot easier to climb back then too). going to
rely on Steve and the gang here. and a little web surf and
see if someone somewhere used this config.
thanks reallyhighfreq- gives me more to think about...
Drifter...


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