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Michael Bryant wrote: From: JJ I agree with Dan, you are the type that screams and whines about Bush, but it they don't put some kind of contingency voting plan in place and something happens you will be one of the first to jump up and down, yell and scream about Bush not having a plan Well, JJ, in today's news Rice swears Bush doesn't have such a plan. I bet you won't fault him him for not having a contingency plan, right? What was your contingency plan after you got caught lying about having a PhD and lying about getting fired from Louisville Technical Institute? You also lied to me about never posting here again. dxAce |
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: JJ I agree with Dan, you are the type that screams and whines about Bush, but it they don't put some kind of contingency voting plan in place and something happens you will be one of the first to jump up and down, yell and scream about Bush not having a plan Well, JJ, in today's news Rice swears Bush doesn't have such a plan. I bet you won't fault him him for not having a contingency plan, right? No plans to postpone the elections. |
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"Dan" wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:41:34 +0900, "Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote: "Dan" wrote in message .. . On 13 Jul 2004 01:17:56 GMT, ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote: If there *is* an attack a day or two before the election - to the point where everyone is too distracted/upset/dead to vote, it will be a Good Thing to have a plan in place to delay it a week or two. Hey, the dead have been voting in Chicago for decades.. and in several southern states, as well. What's the big deal. My favorite Shoe cartoon went something like this: Senator Batson D. Belfry: My constituents give me their undying loyalty! Professor: Yeah, they keep voting for him long after they're dead.. I miss Shoe. Is it still running? It's still in Stars and Stripes.. |
Dan wrote: On 13 Jul 2004 20:22:59 GMT, ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote: From: Dan Wow, so there is one asshole that *doesn't* post from AOL! Whoopdefriggindo! What it means, asshole, is that if you had the intelligence to be able to read headers you'd realize that the vast majority of posters you accuse me of being aren't posting from AOL. But you really aren't that intelligent. No, actually, most of them are. diverd4777 and soames123 did. Funny how they seem to have gone missing now that "Michael Bryant" is posting again! The funniest darn thing that I ever, ever see here is Michael W. Bryant accusing others of not being intelligent. dxAce |
Bush never has a clue so why should he have a plan?
Vote for the Republican ticket of Smoke and Mirrors in 2004! John Barnard Dan wrote: On 13 Jul 2004 01:17:56 GMT, ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote: Geezus! You claim I'm every AOL (the largest ISP in the world!) poster in this newsgroup and you then claim Dems are paranoiacs for pointing out that Bush is laying plans to cancel the election? No, just every asshole AOL poster who just happens to post with your style of rants. No one is talking about "cancelling" the election, dumbass. If there *is* an attack a day or two before the election - to the point where everyone is too distracted/upset/dead to vote, it will be a Good Thing to have a plan in place to delay it a week or two. Remember, New York did this very thing and Democracy survived. If there is an attack a day or two before the election and there is *no* plan, you would be the first one here screaming how "Bush has no plan"! It's a good idea to have contingency plans, jackass. Hopefully, it won't be needed. Stop being so hysterical. Put down the crack pipe. Dan Grundig S800, S650, S700, YB400, YB550PE, S350 Degen DE1102, Kaito KA1102 Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440 E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936) |
Now there's a cartoon that I haven't seen in a long time! I always enjoyed
the "Perfessor" and co. John Barnard Brenda Ann Dyer wrote: "Dan" wrote in message ... On 13 Jul 2004 01:17:56 GMT, ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote: If there *is* an attack a day or two before the election - to the point where everyone is too distracted/upset/dead to vote, it will be a Good Thing to have a plan in place to delay it a week or two. Hey, the dead have been voting in Chicago for decades.. and in several southern states, as well. What's the big deal. My favorite Shoe cartoon went something like this: Senator Batson D. Belfry: My constituents give me their undying loyalty! Professor: Yeah, they keep voting for him long after they're dead.. |
The funniest darn thing that I ever, ever see here is Michael W. Bryant accusing others of not being intelligent. If you think MWB is so stupid then why do you continue to argue with him??? How long??? Get a life Steve!!! dxAce |
DeWayne wrote: The funniest darn thing that I ever, ever see here is Michael W. Bryant accusing others of not being intelligent. If you think MWB is so stupid then why do you continue to argue with him??? How long??? Get a life Steve!!! Let's get one thing straight here. I don't think MWB is stupid. I know MWB is stupid. Stupid is a guy who calls me on the phone, and sends an email whining about how he's been fired from his job when he really hasn't. That's stupid. But to answer your question: Just because. dxAce |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:21:00 -0400, dxAce wrote:
But to answer your question: Just because. Wow Steve. Just like Clinton. |
William S Everhart 90512 wrote: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:21:00 -0400, dxAce wrote: But to answer your question: Just because. Wow Steve. Just like Clinton. Hardly. MWB is more like Clinton... he's a pathological liar. |
Michael Bryant wrote:
From: "MnMikew" No plans to postpone the elections. Weren't you saying, yesterday, that contingency plans were essential? Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A, Degen 1102, GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nospam" to reply) Dr. Rice didn't say they don't have contingency plans - she just said they don't plan to delay the election. Terrorism is already one of the main issues of the campaign, and a last minute pre election attack wouldn't be quite the surprise 9/11/01 or the attack in spain was. Would a last minute attack cause you to change your vote? Probably not. |
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:35:20 -0400, "Mark S. Holden"
wrote: Would a last minute attack cause you to change your vote? Probably not. Betcha it would. 9/11 boosted Bushy's ratings through the roof. |
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William S Everhart 90512 wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:35:20 -0400, "Mark S. Holden" wrote: Would a last minute attack cause you to change your vote? Probably not. Betcha it would. 9/11 boosted Bushy's ratings through the roof. People weren't thinking much about terrorism before 9/11/01. Now, they are, and the ones who are looking at the issues before deciding who to vote for will be mindful of the need for whoever is elected to do something about terrorism. |
Michael Bryant wrote: From: "DeWayne" From N8KDV The funniest darn thing that I ever, ever see here is Michael W. Bryant accusing others of not being intelligent. If you think MWB is so stupid then why do you continue to argue with him??? How long??? Get a life Steve!!! In that phone call I made to Steve, he actually pleaded with me to stay. I did no such thing. That's a fabrication on your part. You continue to state that, and I continue to counter by asking just when you're leaving. You also lied in that very same phone call, stating you had been fired by Louisville Technical Institute. You had not as a subsequent phone call proved. dxAce |
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: Dan As it stands now, the election could *not* be delayed, under *any* circumstances. Democrats would be screaming about "Bush trying to steal another election" or some such nonsense, because there are NO CONTINGENCY PLANS IN PLACE. Just more proof that the Bush administration's own flip-flops indicate a Presidency in disarray. First, they say we're looking at it as a contingency. Early yesterday, Rice tells the press that just ain't so. Then, today, when the opriginal letters are produced, they're back to saying that, well, yes, we were looking at how to deprive the states of their control over their elections. Lying and flip-flopping certainly characterizes this administration! You can't even spell original. Let alone come up with some facts to back up your idiotic claims. Yep, no lying or flip-flopping from Kerry. |
The states have no control over federal elections, dumbass. No one
is "depriving" anyone of anything. You are profoundly stupid, aren't you? Dan Pssssst, Dan, buddy -- you'd better check your facts again before you call names and sling insults. |
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:21:22 -0400, dxAce wrote:
In that phone call I made to Steve, he actually pleaded with me to stay. I'm beginning to think he really is gay. I did no such thing. That's a fabrication on your part. You continue to state that, and I continue to counter by asking just when you're leaving. You also lied in that very same phone call, stating you had been fired by Louisville Technical Institute. You had not as a subsequent phone call proved. dxAce What about you being GAY? You didn't deny THAT! |
bonos wrote: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:21:22 -0400, dxAce wrote: In that phone call I made to Steve, he actually pleaded with me to stay. I'm beginning to think he really is gay. I did no such thing. That's a fabrication on your part. You continue to state that, and I continue to counter by asking just when you're leaving. You also lied in that very same phone call, stating you had been fired by Louisville Technical Institute. You had not as a subsequent phone call proved. dxAce What about you being GAY? You didn't deny THAT! So, I'm not gay. Disappointed, 'tard? dxAce |
Dan wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 03:46:31 -0400, longwave wrote: From: Dan Bush was elected, you just don't like that fact. All of the post-election recounts proved this. Bush would not have been 'elected' if there had been a statewide recount in Florida. There were several, he won them all. 'Statewide' means all polling districts in the state. There was no statewide recount in Florida. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
Dan wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:44:40 -0400, longwave wrote: 'Statewide' means all polling districts in the state. There was no statewide recount in Florida. OIC, we're playing semantic games. There were several recounts of all of the contested counties in Florida. Bush won all of them. No one was demanding a "statewide" recount. Dan Another factor in Florida was the networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox, & MSNBC) forgot or didn't realize the Republican leaning western panhandle is in a different time zone than the rest of the state, so at 8 eastern, they announced the polls were closed and called the state for Gore. I've read estimates this resulted in a net loss of 7,500 to 10,000 votes for the Bush ticket. Bob Beckel, a political advisor for the Democrats estimated "up to 8,000". Florida wasn't nearly as close as most people think. |
Dan wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:44:40 -0400, longwave wrote: 'Statewide' means all polling districts in the state. There was no statewide recount in Florida. "Read It & Weep", indeed! http://www.nytimes.com/pages/politics/recount/ The New York Times is hardly a Bush supporter! Dan A legal recount is conducted by the election officers of a state, not a newspaper. It would have uncovered the election fraud that resulted in thousands of minority voters being disenfranchised. This is also mentioned on that NYT website you referred to. The only fair solution would have been a statewide re-vote in Florida with careful monitoring of each polling place. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
Dan wrote:
That's why we have machines read them in the first place: the ballot is either readable or it isn't. There's no ambiguity, no trying to "discern voter intent"! If your ballot can't be read, then too bad for you. Next time be more careful. Actually, in 2000 Florida it was "If your ballot can't be read, then we check to see if there are any signs that you might have wanted to vote for Gore, like this dent my fingernail just made in the card." And then they disenfranchised all the servicemen voting via absentee ballot. And they STILL couldn't make it look like Gore won. They've been using that very voting system in Cook County, Illinois (Chicago and 'burbs) for as long as I've been voting, which is a LONG time. Funny the card system wasn't challenged here. Apparently the way they knew the card system worked here and not in Florida is that the vote came out in favor of Gore here. -- DAMN tax cuts! They're letting money trickle down to people who spend it! WASHINGTON, July 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. government posted a larger-than- expected budget surplus in June, propped up by higher quarterly business tax receipts, a government report released on Tuesday showed. |
"clifto" wrote in message ... Dan wrote: That's why we have machines read them in the first place: the ballot is either readable or it isn't. There's no ambiguity, no trying to "discern voter intent"! If your ballot can't be read, then too bad for you. Next time be more careful. Actually, in 2000 Florida it was "If your ballot can't be read, then we check to see if there are any signs that you might have wanted to vote for Gore, like this dent my fingernail just made in the card." And then they disenfranchised all the servicemen voting via absentee ballot. And they STILL couldn't make it look like Gore won. They've been using that very voting system in Cook County, Illinois (Chicago and 'burbs) for as long as I've been voting, which is a LONG time. Funny the card system wasn't challenged here. Apparently the way they knew the card system worked here and not in Florida is that the vote came out in favor of Gore here. Facts like these are ignored by Liberals. Thats why you can't reason with them. They only see what they want to see. |
clifto wrote: Dan wrote: That's why we have machines read them in the first place: the ballot is either readable or it isn't. There's no ambiguity, no trying to "discern voter intent"! If your ballot can't be read, then too bad for you. Next time be more careful. Actually, in 2000 Florida it was "If your ballot can't be read, then we check to see if there are any signs that you might have wanted to vote for Gore, like this dent my fingernail just made in the card." And then they disenfranchised all the servicemen voting via absentee ballot. And they STILL couldn't make it look like Gore won. They've been using that very voting system in Cook County, Illinois (Chicago and 'burbs) for as long as I've been voting, which is a LONG time. Funny the card system wasn't challenged here. Apparently the way they knew the card system worked here and not in Florida is that the vote came out in favor of Gore here. Kerry has been saying that 1,000,000 blacks were disenfranchised in the 2000 election and that is an outright lie. Every single investigation into this has proven this allegation to be false. -- DAMN tax cuts! They're letting money trickle down to people who spend it! WASHINGTON, July 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. government posted a larger-than- expected budget surplus in June, propped up by higher quarterly business tax receipts, a government report released on Tuesday showed. |
= = = "Brian Hill" wrote in message
= = = ... "clifto" wrote in message ... Dan wrote: That's why we have machines read them in the first place: the ballot is either readable or it isn't. There's no ambiguity, no trying to "discern voter intent"! If your ballot can't be read, then too bad for you. Next time be more careful. Actually, in 2000 Florida it was "If your ballot can't be read, then we check to see if there are any signs that you might have wanted to vote for Gore, like this dent my fingernail just made in the card." And then they disenfranchised all the servicemen voting via absentee ballot. And they STILL couldn't make it look like Gore won. They've been using that very voting system in Cook County, Illinois (Chicago and 'burbs) for as long as I've been voting, which is a LONG time. Funny the card system wasn't challenged here. Apparently the way they knew the card system worked here and not in Florida is that the vote came out in favor of Gore here. Facts like these are ignored by Liberals. Thats why you can't reason with them. They only see what they want to see. BH, The Truth Be Known - There were more so called "Voting Errors" in Cook County (Chicago, IL) then in the whole State of Florida. ~ RHF .. |
Dan wrote: On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:21:37 -0400, longwave wrote: A legal recount is conducted by the election officers of a state, not a newspaper. It would have uncovered the election fraud that resulted in thousands of minority voters being disenfranchised. This is also mentioned on that NYT website you referred to. The only fair solution would have been a statewide re-vote in Florida with careful monitoring of each polling place. No, the fair solution is the one that happened. You follow the rules that everyone agrees to *before the election*. You don't change the rules later to try to change the outcome, with endless recounts using different methods each time. A statewide re-vote in Florida was within the rules. Jeb Bush was against it for obvious reasons. It would have uncovered the fraud that disenfranchised thousands of voters. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
"RHF" wrote in message The Truth Be Known - There were more so called "Voting Errors" in Cook County (Chicago, IL) then in the whole State of Florida. ~ RHF Yep! Now what if the right wined as much as the left we would all need ear plugs. :) Brian Hill |
Brian Hill wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message The Truth Be Known - There were more so called "Voting Errors" in Cook County (Chicago, IL) then in the whole State of Florida. I seem to recall mention in the Chicago Tribune of over a hundred ballot boxes going missing for a few days there, yes. But like I said, there was no dispute over the "errors" because the vote came out in favor of Gore. Yep! Now what if the right wined as much as the left we would all need ear plugs. :) "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." (Ecclesiastes 10:2) -- DAMN tax cuts! They're letting money trickle down to people who spend it! WASHINGTON, July 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. government posted a larger-than- expected budget surplus in June, propped up by higher quarterly business tax receipts, a government report released on Tuesday showed. |
longwave wrote:
A statewide re-vote in Florida was within the rules. Jeb Bush was against it for obvious reasons. It would have uncovered the fraud that disenfranchised thousands of voters. He saved the taxpayers a lot of money, a statewide re-vote would have just confirmed again that Bush won and by even a larger margin. |
= = = longwave wrote in message
= = = ... Dan wrote: On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:21:37 -0400, longwave wrote: A legal recount is conducted by the election officers of a state, not a newspaper. It would have uncovered the election fraud that resulted in thousands of minority voters being disenfranchised. This is also mentioned on that NYT website you referred to. The only fair solution would have been a statewide re-vote in Florida with careful monitoring of each polling place. No, the fair solution is the one that happened. You follow the rules that everyone agrees to *before the election*. You don't change the rules later to try to change the outcome, with endless recounts using different methods each time. A statewide re-vote in Florida was within the rules. LW - NOT ! A Re-Vote would have had to be "Ordered" by a Florida Court. NO Florida Court 'ordered' a Re-Vote or found evidence for a Re-Vote. Florida Courts did find 'justification' for a Vote "Re-Count". .. .. Jeb Bush was against it for obvious reasons. LW - He Acted within 'existing' Florida State Law at the time of the Election [.] .. .. It would have uncovered the fraud that disenfranchised thousands of voters. LW - One More Liberal LIE and DISTORTION by the Democrats. .. .. |
= = = dxAce wrote in message
= = = ... clifto wrote: Dan wrote: That's why we have machines read them in the first place: the ballot is either readable or it isn't. There's no ambiguity, no trying to "discern voter intent"! If your ballot can't be read, then too bad for you. Next time be more careful. Actually, in 2000 Florida it was "If your ballot can't be read, then we check to see if there are any signs that you might have wanted to vote for Gore, like this dent my fingernail just made in the card." And then they disenfranchised all the servicemen voting via absentee ballot. And they STILL couldn't make it look like Gore won. They've been using that very voting system in Cook County, Illinois (Chicago and 'burbs) for as long as I've been voting, which is a LONG time. Funny the card system wasn't challenged here. Apparently the way they knew the card system worked here and not in Florida is that the vote came out in favor of Gore here. Kerry has been saying that 1,000,000 blacks were disenfranchised in the 2000 election and that is an outright lie. DR ACE, John 'ff' Kerry is counting every African-American who has been "Turned OFF" by the USofA's Election System that is limited to the two political parties: Democrat and Republican. [ Their attitude being that 'they' don't represent "US". ] Using that same 'logic' President George "W" Bush could claim that 10 Million European-Americans were disenfranchised in the 2000 election. ~ RHF .. .. Every single investigation into this has proven this allegation to be false. -- DAMN tax cuts! They're letting money trickle down to people who spend it! WASHINGTON, July 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. government posted a larger-than- expected budget surplus in June, propped up by higher quarterly business tax receipts, a government report released on Tuesday showed. |
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