Marketing.

Remember "Radar Ranges"?

Why is the sonicare toothbrush so called, except to attempt a
connection with true ultra-sonic cleaners and the way they work?


I don't remember the ""radar ranges". although I'm sure thre was such stufff.

however, you did make very good points here.

"Stereophile22" wrote in message
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Marketing.

Remember "Radar Ranges"?

Why is the sonicare toothbrush so called, except to attempt a
connection with true ultra-sonic cleaners and the way they work?


I don't remember the ""radar ranges". although I'm sure thre was such
stufff.

however, you did make very good points here.



Excerpt from the site below:

The first Raytheon commercial microwave oven was the 1161 Radarange, which
was marketed in 1954. Rated at 1600 watts, it was so large and expensive
that it was practical only for restaurant and institutional use.
In 1967, Amana, a division of Raytheon, introduced its domestic Radarange
microwave oven, marking the beginning of the use of microwave ovens in home
kitchens. Although sales were slow during the first few years, partially due
to the oven's relatively expensive price tag, the concept of quick microwave
cooking had arrived. In succeeding years, Litton and a number of other
companies joined the countertop microwave oven market. By the end of 1971,
the price of countertop units began to decrease and their capabilities were
expanded.

http://www.ideafinder.com/history/in...s/story068.htm

Microwaves, also known as Super High Frequency (SHF) signals, have wavelengths
approximately in the range of 30 cm (1 GHz) to 1 mm (300 GHz).

This is a pathetic attempt to avoid the real issue and turn the argument another way
to avoid the statement they were unable to dispute.

Saying microwaves magically start at 1000 Mhz, and saying 999 Mhz is not, and 800
Mhz is not, is bull**** talk.

Regardless of where you want to call it, the FACT remains that Microwave Ovens were
manufactured that cooked your food with frequencies in the 800 Mhz region.

So, since we can cook food and heat at 800 Mhz, and since cell phones are using the
same frequency range, we can make a definite connection here.

Any attempt to shift the discussion to one about where we now want to classify the
word "microwaves" to be appropriate is just childish and ignorant, and nothing more
than diversion from the point about cell phones being dangerous.

LEGAL exposure to certain RF in Russia can be different than the LEGAL limits in the
US. As if RF follows any of these laws, or as if a cell phone is not going to harm
you just because you change the definition of what can be legally called microwaves.

What was considered low blood pressure a decade ago, is now being called high blood
pressure in an attempt to sell more medication and make more money. Just the AMA
changing the imaginary boundary line did not make us all suddenly have high blood
pressure, just as your changing what is now considered microwaves has no effect on
this issue either.

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If there's nothing that offends you in your community, then you know you're not
living in a free society.

If there is nothing that offends you in your community, then you ALSO know you're
not living in a dictatorship either.

This is a stupid play on words that is meaningless!

You can NEVER have any society in which nothing offends anyone! Not under ANY
government.

Idiots.

Truth wrote:

Regardless of where you want to call it, the FACT remains that Microwave Ovens were
manufactured that cooked your food with frequencies in the 800 Mhz region.

So, since we can cook food and heat at 800 Mhz, and since cell phones are using the
same frequency range, we can make a definite connection here.


Three things:

1) You need to recheck the frequency of the magnetrons in microwave
ovens.
2) You need to recompare the power levels between microwave ovens and
cell phones (*cough* 0.3 W v. 1500 W, a factor of 5000 difference
*cough*)
3) *Plonk*

So, since we can cook food and heat at 800 Mhz, and since cell phones are
using the
same frequency range, we can make a definite connection here.

since we will die if we walk into a blast furnace we has best not even light
a candle.
great logic

Any attempt to shift the discussion to one about where we now want to
classify the
word "microwaves" to be appropriate is just childish and ignorant, and
nothing more
than diversion from the point about cell phones being dangerous.

cell phones don't even make good blunt instrument any more, just too light.


LEGAL exposure to certain RF in Russia can be different than the LEGAL
limits in the
US. As if RF follows any of these laws, or as if a cell phone is not
going to harm
you just because you change the definition of what can be legally called
microwaves.

your wild allegations are unsupported by any credible sources.


What was considered low blood pressure a decade ago, is now being called
high blood
pressure in an attempt to sell more medication and make more money.

an unwarranted assumption

Just the AMA
changing the imaginary boundary line did not make us all suddenly have
high blood
pressure, just as your changing what is now considered microwaves has no
effect on
this issue either.


since the dawn if time he earth has been drenched in radio waves and
radiation. since the advent of electromagnetic telecommunications and power
grid distribution mans lifespan has dramatically increased. therefore radio
waves are good for you.

"Truth" wrote in message ...

So, since we can cook food and heat at 800 Mhz, and since cell phones are
using the
same frequency range, we can make a definite connection here.

Where is the scientific data on this? Cite? Link?


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Idiots.

Find me a cellphone which puts out the gigawattage of a microwave, as opposed
to the fractional miliwattage of an average cellphone, and maybe I will refrain
from calling you a hypocrite for calling those who understand basic physics
'idiots'.
Linus

Microwave ovens use a frequency of around 2.45 GHz, much higher than the 800
MHz cellphones, however close to the 2.5 GHz cordless phones. It's not
necessarily the frequency that one should be concerned about, but rather the
relative RF power density levels produced by each device and its proximity to
biological systems. Because cell phones/cordless phones emit such a small
power density levels, there is no observable biological effect, i.e. heating
tissue. Microwave ovens on the other hand are purposefully designed to heat
media in via HUGH amounts of RF deposition in the oven chamber via more than
1000 watts.

The distinction between a cordless phone/cellular phone and a microwave
oven can not be more clear. It like a match stick burning at a distance of
several feet and a roaring fireplace fire at the same distance...one will not
have any effect on you, the other will certainly warm your skin. Its as simple
as that.

Bruce.

Stereophile22 wrote:

Marketing.

Remember "Radar Ranges"?

Why is the sonicare toothbrush so called, except to attempt a
connection with true ultra-sonic cleaners and the way they work?



I don't remember the ""radar ranges". although I'm sure thre was such stufff.

I remeber very well the "Amana Radar Range" being advertised on TV.

Microwave ovens use a frequency of around 2.45 GHz, not 800 MHz like
cellphones, however close to the 2.5 GHz cordless phones. It's not necessarily
the frequency that one should be concerned about, but rather the relative RF
power density levels produced by each device and its proximity to biological
systems. Because cell phones/cordless phones emit such a small
power density levels, there is no observable biological effect, i.e. heating
tissue. Microwave ovens on the other hand are purposefully designed to heat
media in via HUGH amounts of RF deposition in the oven chamber via more than
1000 watts. It takes hugh amounts of RF to heat tissue because the effect is
so inefficient being we are mostly water. Long chain molecues are more
efficient at absorbing RF, but again it takes very large amounts of RF to
produce any heating effect from friction caused by vibrating the long chain
molecules together.

The distinction between a cordless phone/cellular phone and a microwave
oven cannot be more clear. It like a match stick burning at a distance of
several feet and a roaring fireplace fire at the same distance...one will not
have any effect on you, the other will certainly warm your skin. Its as simple
as that.

Bruce.