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Ken Wilson August 21st 04 03:14 PM

Radio Canada International
 
Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to RCanadaI because
of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is distorted.
13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more Hum.

I really enjoy Vinyl Cafe & Qirks / Quarks but I hate the audio .

73, Ken



dxAce August 21st 04 03:19 PM



Ken Wilson wrote:

Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to RCanadaI because
of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is distorted.
13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more Hum.


Sounds pretty good here. Good signal.

dxAce



dxAce August 21st 04 03:28 PM



dxAce wrote:

Ken Wilson wrote:

Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to RCanadaI because
of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is distorted.
13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more Hum.


Sounds pretty good here. Good signal.


I do hear a bit of hum on certain broadcast items though.



dxAce



Jack Painter August 21st 04 03:34 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

Ken Wilson wrote:

Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to RCanadaI

because
of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is

distorted.
13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more Hum.


Sounds pretty good here. Good signal.


I do hear a bit of hum on certain broadcast items though.

dxAce



Powerful, clear and excellent sounding signal here.

Jack
Virginia Beach VA



dxAce August 21st 04 03:40 PM



Jack Painter wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

Ken Wilson wrote:

Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to RCanadaI

because
of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is

distorted.
13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more Hum.

Sounds pretty good here. Good signal.


I do hear a bit of hum on certain broadcast items though.

dxAce



Powerful, clear and excellent sounding signal here.


I was using one of the R8B's and can detect a bit of hum when no audio is
being transmitted. I turned on the R7 and using the 8 kHz filter the hum is a
bit more apparent, but not really noticing any distortion.

dxAce



Ken Wilson August 21st 04 03:47 PM

The Hum is there @ 1440 on 13.655. The distortion went away around 1418. The
Hum at that time was more of a Buzz than a Hum.
Must just be my crappy receivers G

73, Ken

dxAce wrote in message
...


Jack Painter wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

Ken Wilson wrote:

Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to

RCanadaI
because
of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is

distorted.
13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more Hum.

Sounds pretty good here. Good signal.

I do hear a bit of hum on certain broadcast items though.

dxAce


Powerful, clear and excellent sounding signal here.


I was using one of the R8B's and can detect a bit of hum when no audio is
being transmitted. I turned on the R7 and using the 8 kHz filter the hum

is a
bit more apparent, but not really noticing any distortion.

dxAce





David August 21st 04 05:30 PM

RCI is on Sirius satellite a couple times a day via WRN and As It
Happens is carried on PRI via Sirius.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:14:55 -0400, "Ken Wilson"
wrote:

Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to RCanadaI because
of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is distorted.
13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more Hum.

I really enjoy Vinyl Cafe & Qirks / Quarks but I hate the audio .

73, Ken



Ken Wilson August 21st 04 06:30 PM

Does it have the same Hum on the signal as via the Sackville transmitters?

I am going to get a Sirius setup if the NHL can get their dispute with the
players Union settled.

73, Ken


David wrote in message
...
RCI is on Sirius satellite a couple times a day via WRN and As It
Happens is carried on PRI via Sirius.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:14:55 -0400, "Ken Wilson"
wrote:

Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to RCanadaI

because
of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is distorted.
13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more Hum.

I really enjoy Vinyl Cafe & Qirks / Quarks but I hate the audio .

73, Ken





uncle arnie August 21st 04 09:53 PM

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:14 am -0600 UTC, Ken Wilson
posted: %MM

Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to RCanadaI
because of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is
distorted. 13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more
Hum.

I really enjoy Vinyl Cafe & Qirks / Quarks but I hate the audio .

73, Ken


What are you listening with?
--
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Jack Painter August 21st 04 09:59 PM


"Ken Wilson" wrote in message
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The Hum is there @ 1440 on 13.655. The distortion went away around 1418.

The
Hum at that time was more of a Buzz than a Hum.
Must just be my crappy receivers G

73, Ken


At 1700 EDT I'm getting too many stronger stations on both sides to hear
13655 well.

Jack

dxAce wrote in message
...


Jack Painter wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


dxAce wrote:

Ken Wilson wrote:

Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to

RCanadaI
because
of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is
distorted.
13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more

Hum.

Sounds pretty good here. Good signal.

I do hear a bit of hum on certain broadcast items though.

dxAce


Powerful, clear and excellent sounding signal here.


I was using one of the R8B's and can detect a bit of hum when no audio

is
being transmitted. I turned on the R7 and using the 8 kHz filter the hum

is a
bit more apparent, but not really noticing any distortion.

dxAce







dxAce August 21st 04 10:03 PM



Jack Painter wrote:

"Ken Wilson" wrote in message
...
The Hum is there @ 1440 on 13.655. The distortion went away around 1418.

The
Hum at that time was more of a Buzz than a Hum.
Must just be my crappy receivers G

73, Ken


At 1700 EDT I'm getting too many stronger stations on both sides to hear
13655 well.


RCI is not currently using 13655 at 1700 EDT (2100 GMT).

dxAce



dxAce August 21st 04 10:05 PM



dxAce wrote:

Jack Painter wrote:

"Ken Wilson" wrote in message
...
The Hum is there @ 1440 on 13.655. The distortion went away around 1418.

The
Hum at that time was more of a Buzz than a Hum.
Must just be my crappy receivers G

73, Ken


At 1700 EDT I'm getting too many stronger stations on both sides to hear
13655 well.


RCI is not currently using 13655 at 1700 EDT (2100 GMT).


Try 17765.



dxAce



Jack Painter August 21st 04 10:27 PM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


RCI is not currently using 13655 at 1700 EDT (2100 GMT).


Try 17765.


S9+ w/ 10db+30db attenuation there. I have rarely seen the s-meter in the
red with all the attenuation I can add. What in the world is their power?

Jack



dxAce August 21st 04 10:35 PM



Jack Painter wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


RCI is not currently using 13655 at 1700 EDT (2100 GMT).


Try 17765.


S9+ w/ 10db+30db attenuation there. I have rarely seen the s-meter in the
red with all the attenuation I can add. What in the world is their power?


Most likely 250 kw. They have at least 6 250 kw transmitters at Sackville,
amongst other lesser power units (100 kw).

dxAce



Ken Wilson August 21st 04 11:18 PM


uncle arnie wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:14 am -0600 UTC, Ken Wilson
posted: %MM

What are you listening with?
--


I was using a Ten-Tec RX340 & a Kenwood R-5000. Same results from both. No I
did not have the noise blanker on. No Hum on the other stations either.

I find it hard to believe I am the only one who thinks their transmitter
quality stinks. Reminds me of one of the religious stations on the lower
bands. HHHHHUUUUUMMMMMM.

Ken KG4BIG



dxAce August 21st 04 11:23 PM



Ken Wilson wrote:

uncle arnie wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:14 am -0600 UTC, Ken Wilson
posted: %MM

What are you listening with?
--


I was using a Ten-Tec RX340 & a Kenwood R-5000. Same results from both. No I
did not have the noise blanker on. No Hum on the other stations either.

I find it hard to believe I am the only one who thinks their transmitter
quality stinks.


I did hear some hum Ken, but overall it did not sound too bad at all. And that
was on the R8, R8B, two of em at the moment, and the R7.

I was listening on 17765 in the previous hour for a bit also and didn't notice
anything abnormal.

dxAce



Telamon August 21st 04 11:41 PM

In article ,
"Ken Wilson" wrote:

Am I the only one who is getting ready to stop listening to RCanadaI because
of the horrible broadcast quality. Hum is terrible & audio is distorted.
13.655 mhz is strongest here in KY but that means I hear more Hum.

I really enjoy Vinyl Cafe & Qirks / Quarks but I hate the audio .


That's odd as they normally sound good here with no hum.

Sometimes noise on the AC power can get into the antenna-radio system
and mess up certain frequencies. I have had power strips with built in
filters that have caused problems instead of making things better.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Ken Wilson August 22nd 04 12:49 AM


Telamon wrote in message

....
That's odd as they normally sound good here with no hum.

Sometimes noise on the AC power can get into the antenna-radio system
and mess up certain frequencies. I have had power strips with built in
filters that have caused problems instead of making things better.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Maybe the problem is here on my end. The Hum was on all 3 freq.
9.515....13.655....& 17.800. Also I don't hear it on any other
stations...well other than the ones I mentioned before.

Oh well enough of that I guess.

73 es DX Ken




Telamon August 22nd 04 06:50 AM

In article ,
"Ken Wilson" wrote:

Telamon wrote in message

...
That's odd as they normally sound good here with no hum.

Sometimes noise on the AC power can get into the antenna-radio system
and mess up certain frequencies. I have had power strips with built in
filters that have caused problems instead of making things better.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Maybe the problem is here on my end. The Hum was on all 3 freq.
9.515....13.655....& 17.800. Also I don't hear it on any other
stations...well other than the ones I mentioned before.

Oh well enough of that I guess.

I encourage you to look into it a little more. No sense letting
something like this spoil your listening. If you have a decent portable
radio (on batteries of course) you could check if the hum is heard on
the portable. If it is then it's real. If not then is could be an
interaction of the AC power, your radio and antenna. I have had this
happen only on specific frequencies with the radio plugged into a
problem AC power strip filter.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Ron Hardin August 22nd 04 08:58 AM

The usual hum source is nonbypassed diodes in the wall wart, which
provide a nice RF ground when they conduct and none when they don't,
thus changing the antenna system 120 times a second when there's an
instant that they're all not conducting at once.

Even if you ground the radio yourself, they still change the antenna
system, though usually it matters less the more grounded the radio is.

One test is whether the hum changes if you hold a hand on the radio,
improving its RF ground a bit.

The fix is a wall wart with bypassed diodes, or NiMH batteries, which
are good enough these days so you don't really need the wall wart.
Just swap a battery set when needed.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Gray Shockley August 22nd 04 09:28 AM

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 02:58:27 -0500, Ron Hardin wrote
(in article ):

The usual hum source is nonbypassed diodes in the wall wart, which
provide a nice RF ground when they conduct and none when they don't,
thus changing the antenna system 120 times a second when there's an
instant that they're all not conducting at once.

Even if you ground the radio yourself, they still change the antenna
system, though usually it matters less the more grounded the radio is.

One test is whether the hum changes if you hold a hand on the radio,
improving its RF ground a bit.

The fix is a wall wart with bypassed diodes,


I've got six or seven wallwarts from TadioShack and have never had a
problem.

or NiMH batteries, which
are good enough these days so you don't really need the wall wart.
Just swap a battery set when needed.



Absolutely, we use NiMH on my wife's radios which are liable to be
anywhere in the entire household.

Except: I just don't like doing that with AA's cuz they're so small (in
"playtime") that I don't like jerking them in and out so often.

So I use a "C" cell "battery holder" from RShack and one of their $3
cords and plug the thing into external DC power.

Ron's probably already figured out why I specify "C" cells rather than
"D" but in case anyone is wondering, 2 or 3 sets of rechargeable "D"
cells cost a buncha $$$. If ya got no problems with spending $$$, find
out who is a good electrician in your area and get him/her to run you a
dedicated and filtered/shielded outlet(s) for your radio gear (and
another for your computer gear as long as you're going to the bother
[grin]).


++ Gray //



Ron Hardin August 22nd 04 10:25 AM

Gray Shockley wrote:
So I use a "C" cell "battery holder" from RShack and one of their $3
cords and plug the thing into external DC power.


Add a fuse to the line; they can start a fire if something shorts at the radio end.

Presumably it matters less if the batteries are internal to the radio.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

uncle arnie August 23rd 04 04:09 AM

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 04:18 pm -0600 UTC, Ken Wilson
posted: %MM


uncle arnie wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:14 am -0600 UTC, Ken Wilson
posted: %MM

What are you listening with?
--


I was using a Ten-Tec RX340 & a Kenwood R-5000. Same results from both. No
I did not have the noise blanker on. No Hum on the other stations either.

I find it hard to believe I am the only one who thinks their transmitter
quality stinks. Reminds me of one of the religious stations on the lower
bands. HHHHHUUUUUMMMMMM.

Ken KG4BIG


Good receivers. Pretty weird. I can hear RCI signals with no hum in north
central Cda (not in the target area even for CBC northern service), but
there's no interference to speak of with all services buried and no
tranmissitters between us and the north pole, underpopulated US for 1000's
of miles to the south, 700 miles west to anything substantial and nothing
of consequence until Newfoundland and Europe to the east.
--
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