In article sezWc.49145$X12.26094@edtnps84,
m II wrote:

clifto wrote:
m II wrote:

Not at all. The BBC is a broadcaster, the USA is a violent, corporate
run fascist state. See the difference?


You need to escape and seek asylum in an understanding nation like Cuba.

Nope. I hate totalitarian states with dictatorships. It's disgusting to
see how little regard you have for your Bill of Rights and Constitution.
Your freedoms are being eroded quicker than ever before.

Everything your founding fathers warned against is being done to you Now
and from within. Wake up!

What the hell do you know about being awake since you just in some drug
induced dream in the New York city area.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:18:01 -0400, dxAce wrote:



LewBob wrote:

"Mike Terry" wrote in message
...
Cuban-American lawmakers cheered Saturday as U.S. military aircraft
transmitted Radio and TV Martí to Cuban audiences -- one of the Bush
administration's new tactics to undermine the Castro regime.

''For the people of Cuba to get an unfiltered transmission of information
is
a great thing,'' said U.S. Senate candidate Mel Martínez, who co-chaired
the
presidential commission that recommended the flights.

Martínez said White House staffers called to deliver the news that C-130
cargo planes had managed to override jamming efforts by the island's
communist government.

President Bush allocated $18 million in May to pay for the flights, though
lawmakers said the frequency and timing of future broadcasts would remain
classified.

''It's a wonderful day for the enslaved Cuban people, and I'm sure Castro
is
enraged and finding new and devious ways to block the transmissions,''
said
U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Miami.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/9463711.htm?1c


I expect that there are a lot of Americans, descendents of slaves, who would
question whether the Cuban people are "enslaved." They may be poor, some
even impoverished, and they live under Communist rule, but they are not
enslaved.

Semantics perhaps, but they are indeed 'enslaved' to Fidel's Communist rule.

They cannot come and go freely, whenever and wherever they choose.

They cannot operate freely in the global marketplace.

I'm guessing that internet activity is also tightly controlled.

Please, tell us what your definition of 'enslavement' is, so that we might pick
both it and you apart.

Walk through any US airport. If you can't see it, you're not
looking.

Take a picture of a tall building. Feel the boot on your neck?


dxAce

wrote:

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:18:01 -0400, dxAce wrote:



LewBob wrote:

"Mike Terry" wrote in message
...
Cuban-American lawmakers cheered Saturday as U.S. military aircraft
transmitted Radio and TV Martí to Cuban audiences -- one of the Bush
administration's new tactics to undermine the Castro regime.

''For the people of Cuba to get an unfiltered transmission of information
is
a great thing,'' said U.S. Senate candidate Mel Martínez, who co-chaired
the
presidential commission that recommended the flights.

Martínez said White House staffers called to deliver the news that C-130
cargo planes had managed to override jamming efforts by the island's
communist government.

President Bush allocated $18 million in May to pay for the flights, though
lawmakers said the frequency and timing of future broadcasts would remain
classified.

''It's a wonderful day for the enslaved Cuban people, and I'm sure Castro
is
enraged and finding new and devious ways to block the transmissions,''
said
U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Miami.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/9463711.htm?1c


I expect that there are a lot of Americans, descendents of slaves, who would
question whether the Cuban people are "enslaved." They may be poor, some
even impoverished, and they live under Communist rule, but they are not
enslaved.

Semantics perhaps, but they are indeed 'enslaved' to Fidel's Communist rule.

They cannot come and go freely, whenever and wherever they choose.

They cannot operate freely in the global marketplace.

I'm guessing that internet activity is also tightly controlled.

Please, tell us what your definition of 'enslavement' is, so that we might pick
both it and you apart.

Walk through any US airport. If you can't see it, you're not
looking.

Take a picture of a tall building. Feel the boot on your neck?

And that is 'slavery'?

You're not to bright, are you?

dxAce

Telamon wrote:

Everything your founding fathers warned against is being done to you Now
and from within. Wake up!


What the hell do you know about being awake since you just in some drug
induced dream in the New York city area.

I hate it when I'm found out. Keep up the good work.




mike

Mike Pearson see .sig wrote:
clifto wrote:
From the book: "John Kerry's service record indicates that on February 18,
1966, he enlisted in the United States Naval Reserves, status 'inactive',
not in the U.S. Navy. These details are conveniently left out of all
pro-Kerry biographies. Douglas Brinkley records that Kerry entered
Offer Candidate School in Newport, Rhode Island; however, again he fails
to note that Kerry was seeking to be an officer of the U.S. Naval Reserve."

So he took part in a "delayed enlistment program", where you sign up,
are placed on inactive reserve status, and several months to a year
later go to active duty. Why are these guys making such a big deal of
it?

Because Kerry's Viet Nam record is replete with reports of him doing
whatever he could to minimize his proximity to battle. I have no problem
with that in itself, but if he's then going to criticize Bush for joining
the National Guard to avoid battle, he's a hypocrite.

Personally, if I'd had a ghost of a chance of being able to fly the
world's best airframes like Bush did, I'd have joined the Podunk Possum
Posse to get in the pilot's seat.

--
If Kerry can't cope with the "Republican Attack Machine",
how can he hope to deal with Al Qaeda?

clifto wrote:

Mike Pearson see .sig wrote:
clifto wrote:
From the book: "John Kerry's service record indicates that on February 18,
1966, he enlisted in the United States Naval Reserves, status 'inactive',
not in the U.S. Navy. These details are conveniently left out of all
pro-Kerry biographies. Douglas Brinkley records that Kerry entered
Offer Candidate School in Newport, Rhode Island; however, again he fails
to note that Kerry was seeking to be an officer of the U.S. Naval Reserve."

So he took part in a "delayed enlistment program", where you sign up,
are placed on inactive reserve status, and several months to a year
later go to active duty. Why are these guys making such a big deal of
it?

Because Kerry's Viet Nam record is replete with reports of him doing
whatever he could to minimize his proximity to battle. I have no problem
with that in itself, but if he's then going to criticize Bush for joining
the National Guard to avoid battle, he's a hypocrite.

But the delayed enlistment has absolutely *nothing* to do with anything;
the authors of that book are, as usual, raising a red-herring and making
is sound like something sinister.

How does Kerry's volunteering to go back to Vietnam for a 2nd tour and
asking for swift boat duty on that tour constitute "minimizing his
proximity to battle"? Compare that to GWB's "NO" box checked next to
the "Volunteer for overseas duty?" box on his paperwork.



Personally, if I'd had a ghost of a chance of being able to fly the
world's best airframes like Bush did, I'd have joined the Podunk Possum
Posse to get in the pilot's seat.

Of the 875 F-102A production models that entered service, 259 were lost
in accidents that killed 70 Air Force and ANG pilots, an accident rate
far above the other aircraft in service at the time. By December of
1969 all F102's had been removed from service in Southeast Asia (they
had been flown as a part of the ANG's "Palace Alert" program) and were
used for domestic air defense by the ANG. It was hardly the
state-of-the-art machine that you think it was at that time.


--
Mike
NAR #70953 - Sr/HPR Level-1 ~ BEMRC - NAR Section #627
NO Junk Email, please! Real email to: amphoto [at] blarg [dot] net.
WANTED: Experienced Kamikaze Pilot

In article ,
(Mike Pearson see .sig) wrote:

clifto wrote:

Mike Pearson see .sig wrote:
clifto wrote:
From the book: "John Kerry's service record indicates that on February
18,
1966, he enlisted in the United States Naval Reserves, status
'inactive',
not in the U.S. Navy. These details are conveniently left out of all
pro-Kerry biographies. Douglas Brinkley records that Kerry entered
Offer Candidate School in Newport, Rhode Island; however, again he fails
to note that Kerry was seeking to be an officer of the U.S. Naval
Reserve."

So he took part in a "delayed enlistment program", where you sign up,
are placed on inactive reserve status, and several months to a year
later go to active duty. Why are these guys making such a big deal of
it?

Because Kerry's Viet Nam record is replete with reports of him doing
whatever he could to minimize his proximity to battle. I have no problem
with that in itself, but if he's then going to criticize Bush for joining
the National Guard to avoid battle, he's a hypocrite.

But the delayed enlistment has absolutely *nothing* to do with anything;
the authors of that book are, as usual, raising a red-herring and making
is sound like something sinister.

How does Kerry's volunteering to go back to Vietnam for a 2nd tour and
asking for swift boat duty on that tour constitute "minimizing his
proximity to battle"? Compare that to GWB's "NO" box checked next to
the "Volunteer for overseas duty?" box on his paperwork.

You are mistaken. Bush checked the box "NO" next to " Volunteer for
overseas war atrocities."

Kerry checked the box "Yes" next to that line.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Mike Pearson see .sig wrote:

Of the 875 F-102A production models that entered service, 259 were lost
in accidents that killed 70 Air Force and ANG pilots, an accident rate
far above the other aircraft in service at the time. By December of
1969 all F102's had been removed from service in Southeast Asia (they
had been flown as a part of the ANG's "Palace Alert" program) and were
used for domestic air defense by the ANG. It was hardly the
state-of-the-art machine that you think it was at that time.


The f-104 was pretty bad too. Almost three hundred of them crashed. It
earned the nickname the 'Widowmaker'. Is that the price of the lowest
bidder winning or a case of delivering faulty goods?




mike