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U.S. military aircraft transmit Radio and TV Martí to Cuba
"Mike Terry" wrote in message
... Cuban-American lawmakers cheered Saturday as U.S. military aircraft transmitted Radio and TV Martí to Cuban audiences -- one of the Bush administration's new tactics to undermine the Castro regime. ''For the people of Cuba to get an unfiltered transmission of information is a great thing,'' said U.S. Senate candidate Mel Martínez, who co-chaired the presidential commission that recommended the flights. Martínez said White House staffers called to deliver the news that C-130 cargo planes had managed to override jamming efforts by the island's communist government. President Bush allocated $18 million in May to pay for the flights, though lawmakers said the frequency and timing of future broadcasts would remain classified. ''It's a wonderful day for the enslaved Cuban people, and I'm sure Castro is enraged and finding new and devious ways to block the transmissions,'' said U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Miami. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/9463711.htm?1c I expect that there are a lot of Americans, descendents of slaves, who would question whether the Cuban people are "enslaved." They may be poor, some even impoverished, and they live under Communist rule, but they are not enslaved. |
LewBob wrote: "Mike Terry" wrote in message ... Cuban-American lawmakers cheered Saturday as U.S. military aircraft transmitted Radio and TV Martí to Cuban audiences -- one of the Bush administration's new tactics to undermine the Castro regime. ''For the people of Cuba to get an unfiltered transmission of information is a great thing,'' said U.S. Senate candidate Mel Martínez, who co-chaired the presidential commission that recommended the flights. Martínez said White House staffers called to deliver the news that C-130 cargo planes had managed to override jamming efforts by the island's communist government. President Bush allocated $18 million in May to pay for the flights, though lawmakers said the frequency and timing of future broadcasts would remain classified. ''It's a wonderful day for the enslaved Cuban people, and I'm sure Castro is enraged and finding new and devious ways to block the transmissions,'' said U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Miami. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/9463711.htm?1c I expect that there are a lot of Americans, descendents of slaves, who would question whether the Cuban people are "enslaved." They may be poor, some even impoverished, and they live under Communist rule, but they are not enslaved. Semantics perhaps, but they are indeed 'enslaved' to Fidel's Communist rule. They cannot come and go freely, whenever and wherever they choose. They cannot operate freely in the global marketplace. I'm guessing that internet activity is also tightly controlled. Please, tell us what your definition of 'enslavement' is, so that we might pick both it and you apart. dxAce |
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 06:18 pm -0600 UTC, dxAce posted:
MM LewBob wrote: "Mike Terry" wrote in message ... Cuban-American lawmakers cheered Saturday as U.S. military aircraft transmitted Radio and TV Martí to Cuban audiences -- one of the Bush administration's new tactics to undermine the Castro regime. ''For the people of Cuba to get an unfiltered transmission of information is a great thing,'' said U.S. Senate candidate Mel Martínez, who co-chaired the presidential commission that recommended the flights. Martínez said White House staffers called to deliver the news that C-130 cargo planes had managed to override jamming efforts by the island's communist government. President Bush allocated $18 million in May to pay for the flights, though lawmakers said the frequency and timing of future broadcasts would remain classified. ''It's a wonderful day for the enslaved Cuban people, and I'm sure Castro is enraged and finding new and devious ways to block the transmissions,'' said U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Miami. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/9463711.htm?1c I expect that there are a lot of Americans, descendents of slaves, who would question whether the Cuban people are "enslaved." They may be poor, some even impoverished, and they live under Communist rule, but they are not enslaved. Semantics perhaps, but they are indeed 'enslaved' to Fidel's Communist rule. They cannot come and go freely, whenever and wherever they choose. Neither can the impoverished millions throughout latin america. Freedom requires means to do things. When you are desperately poor, you have freedom to starve, to be ill w/out health care, to have your children be illiterate. There is no convincing evidence than the lives of the average citizen would be better under a US dominated free market. Just ask a Salvadoran, Guatemalan or Nicaraguan. I think as an American, you can't go everywhere you want either, nor can you even phone Cuba, or smoke a Cuban cigar. They cannot operate freely in the global marketplace. The US operates freely in the global marketplace and bullies those who try to compete. Talk to a coffee, rice or cotton farmer for details. You could even ask a Canadian logger or wheat farmer. Richer countries want access to poorer countries' markets, their resources, so they can profit. Cuba won't play ball, and of course there is the Florida Cuban vote which might be thought of as important given Bushie's last election result. I'm guessing that internet activity is also tightly controlled. No. You can go to an internet cafe and surf where ever you want. Suggest you don't post about assumptions. The real problem is self righteousness and ignorance of things beyond your front door. |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... Please, tell us what your definition of 'enslavement' is, so that we might pick both it and you apart. Possibly you should know what real slavery is since it's so deeply rooted in your own country's history alongside segregation. |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... Please, tell us what your definition of 'enslavement' is, so that we might pick both it and you apart. Apparently you don't have the balls to finish your argument... |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Please, tell us what your definition of 'enslavement' is, so that we might pick both it and you apart. Apparently you don't have the balls to finish your argument... Apparently you don't have the balls to answer the question... dxAce A Navy Veteran who will not be voting for John Fraud Kerry. |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... Apparently you don't have the balls to answer the question... Apparently, you are hypocrite enough to ignore the true question in this thread so I'll repeat it. Please enlighten us with your definition of what true slavery since it's so deeply rooted in your country's history alongside segregation. You said you were going to pick apart a lot of things. So we're waiting to see what you have to say about that. |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Apparently you don't have the balls to answer the question... Apparently, you are hypocrite enough to ignore the true question in this thread so I'll repeat it. Please enlighten us with your definition of what true slavery since it's so deeply rooted in your country's history alongside segregation. Slavery and segregation are no longer legal in the USA. Has not been for quite some time. I think most folks have a pretty good idea of what 'true slavery' is. How about telling us how the NAZI's enslaved folks? Sorry you're not here... or... maybe not! dxAce |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... Slavery and segregation are no longer legal in the USA. Has not been for quite some time. Yes but the KKK still goes on strong in your country. Slavery and segregation might now be illegal but radical racism is still deeply rooted in large portions of your population. I think most folks have a pretty good idea of what 'true slavery' is. I hope so. Your country used it savagely for several decades. How about telling us how the NAZI's enslaved folks? Except for massive murder, they did about the same your soldiers did in the Iraki jails. Sorry you're not here... or... maybe not! Sorry but you are pathetically hypocrite and biased. |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Slavery and segregation are no longer legal in the USA. Has not been for quite some time. Yes but the KKK still goes on strong in your country. Slavery and segregation might now be illegal but radical racism is still deeply rooted in large portions of your population. Last I heard KKK membership is pretty minimal, heck, they hardly ever get anyone to show up at their rally's. I'm sure there are National Socialists still deeply rooted in Deutschland too. I think most folks have a pretty good idea of what 'true slavery' is. I hope so. Your country used it savagely for several decades. Like there aren't still countries practicing slavery? How about telling us how the NAZI's enslaved folks? Except for massive murder, they did about the same your soldiers did in the Iraki jails. Oh come on, they enslaved folks in their factories, did they not? It wasn't just murder. Come on, I know it's kind of illegal in Deutschland to talk about the NAZI's, but be honest. Sorry you're not here... or... maybe not! Sorry but you are pathetically hypocrite and biased. Yep, that's me! dxAce A Navy Veteran who will not be voting for John Fraud Kerry. |
Give it up, Dude.
We are a nation of slaves, too. We are addicted to TV and do whatever it tells us to do. We have the attention span of a gnat on amphetamine and blindly follow corrupt leadership straight into Hell. On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:18:01 -0400, dxAce wrote: LewBob wrote: "Mike Terry" wrote in message ... Cuban-American lawmakers cheered Saturday as U.S. military aircraft transmitted Radio and TV Martí to Cuban audiences -- one of the Bush administration's new tactics to undermine the Castro regime. ''For the people of Cuba to get an unfiltered transmission of information is a great thing,'' said U.S. Senate candidate Mel Martínez, who co-chaired the presidential commission that recommended the flights. Martínez said White House staffers called to deliver the news that C-130 cargo planes had managed to override jamming efforts by the island's communist government. President Bush allocated $18 million in May to pay for the flights, though lawmakers said the frequency and timing of future broadcasts would remain classified. ''It's a wonderful day for the enslaved Cuban people, and I'm sure Castro is enraged and finding new and devious ways to block the transmissions,'' said U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Miami. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/9463711.htm?1c I expect that there are a lot of Americans, descendents of slaves, who would question whether the Cuban people are "enslaved." They may be poor, some even impoverished, and they live under Communist rule, but they are not enslaved. Semantics perhaps, but they are indeed 'enslaved' to Fidel's Communist rule. They cannot come and go freely, whenever and wherever they choose. They cannot operate freely in the global marketplace. I'm guessing that internet activity is also tightly controlled. Please, tell us what your definition of 'enslavement' is, so that we might pick both it and you apart. dxAce |
David wrote: Give it up, Dude. We are a nation of slaves, too. We are addicted to TV and do whatever it tells us to do. Not me... Doooooooooooooood. I rarely ever watch TV. We have the attention span of a gnat on amphetamine and blindly follow corrupt leadership straight into Hell. Speaking for yourself? That's good David, very good. Now, get back to me when you find your very first clue. dxAce |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... Oh come on, they enslaved folks in their factories, did they not? It wasn't just murder. Come on, I know it's kind of illegal in Deutschland to talk about the NAZI's, but be honest. Ah but I'm not in Germany. I'm not even on that continent. And I'm not German. But I do know what a self-righteous lying hypocrite is and you fit the definition perfectly. It's too bad that you waste your limited intelligence that way. |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Oh come on, they enslaved folks in their factories, did they not? It wasn't just murder. Come on, I know it's kind of illegal in Deutschland to talk about the NAZI's, but be honest. Ah but I'm not in Germany. I'm not even on that continent. And I'm not German. But I do know what a self-righteous lying hypocrite is and you fit the definition perfectly. It's too bad that you waste your limited intelligence that way. Well, if my intelligence is so limited, why would you care how I choose to waste it, 'tard? Got radio? dxAce |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... Well, if my intelligence is so limited, why would you care how I choose to waste it, 'tard? Because you evidently don't have a single clue and the few neurons that still compute in your fat head are too busy spewing out your customary radical rightwing rubbish. Got radio? Got a clue? |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Well, if my intelligence is so limited, why would you care how I choose to waste it, 'tard? Because you evidently don't have a single clue and the few neurons that still compute in your fat head are too busy spewing out your customary radical rightwing rubbish. No, it is indeed evident that I have several clues... ....and my head is certainly not fat... ....and I certainly don't spew rubbish! Got a radio? Tell us all about it. dxAce A Navy Veteran who will definitely not be voting for John Fraud Kerrry. |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... No, it is indeed evident that I have several clues... ...and my head is certainly not fat... ...and I certainly don't spew rubbish! Self-serving and not factual which is usual perspective on things. A Navy Veteran who will definitely not be voting for John Fraud Kerrry. Will instead vote for draft dodging George Warmonger Bush. |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... No, it is indeed evident that I have several clues... ...and my head is certainly not fat... ...and I certainly don't spew rubbish! Self-serving and not factual which is usual perspective on things. A Navy Veteran who will definitely not be voting for John Fraud Kerrry. Will instead vote for draft dodging George Warmonger Bush. One can't both 'dodge the draft' and be a member of the National Guard at the same time. As I stated before, 'tard, get back to me when you can actually find a clue. dxAce Navy and National Guard Veteran who will not be voting for John Fraud Kerry. |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... One can't both 'dodge the draft' and be a member of the National Guard at the same time. Yes it's possible when your father is a big shot who gets your name listed for figuration purpose only. See you got shafted cause you actually had to serve while Bush didn't. Please come back when you find ONE occurence where your dear fraudulently elected president displayed ONE factual action of true personal courage instead of going about his usual cowardly business of wasting young american lives by sending them abroad to kill thousands of Irakis and destroy their country to "liberate" them. |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... One can't both 'dodge the draft' and be a member of the National Guard at the same time. Yes it's possible when your father is a big shot who gets your name listed for figuration purpose only. No, it is not. One cannot 'dodge the draft' and be a member of the National Guard at the same time. You are a bit confused. I'm not surprised. Many are. See you got shafted cause you actually had to serve while Bush didn't. Bush did serve, perhaps not in the same capacity, but he did serve. And I certainly don't consider myself to have gotten 'the shaft'. You ever serve your country? Please come back when you find ONE occurence where your dear fraudulently elected president displayed ONE factual action of true personal courage instead of going about his usual cowardly business of wasting young american lives by sending them abroad to kill thousands of Irakis and destroy their country to "liberate" them. As far as I'm concerned he did display personal courage. He flew a fighter jet. I sure would not desire to do so! You keep trying, Joe. I'm sure you'll get your head on straight yet. dxAce |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... You ever serve your country? I never got shafted by my country like you dude. As far as I'm concerned he did display personal courage. He flew a fighter jet. I sure would not desire to do so! You gotta be joking right? Courage? What a ridiculous and pathetic farce. |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... You ever serve your country? I never got shafted by my country like you dude. I'm not really clear on how I 'got shafted'. I certainly got paid, I got fed, I got housed, I got to see many things around the world that most will never see, I got a college education, and I have pride in what I did and accomplished. It was an experience I would never wish to give up, nor forget. Perhaps you might elaborate on just how you think *I* got shafted. dxAce |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... Perhaps you might elaborate on just how you think *I* got shafted. Your challenged brain can't even understand any other point of view but your radical right wing propaganda so why should I try? |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Perhaps you might elaborate on just how you think *I* got shafted. Your challenged brain can't even understand any other point of view but your radical right wing propaganda so why should I try? Can't do it can you? I'm not surprised. dxAce |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... Can't do it can you? Oh yes I can. It's just that you can't compute it at all. I'm not surprised. Me neither. |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Can't do it can you? Oh yes I can. It's just that you can't compute it at all. Then give it a try, 'tard. dxAce |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... Then give it a try, 'tard. Nope. No more wasting of my time on you. Instead I'll send a hefty contribution to Kerry's campain. |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Then give it a try, 'tard. Nope. No more wasting of my time on you. Instead I'll send a hefty contribution to Kerry's campain. Make sure you spell 'campaign' properly on the check. Been fun playin' with ya today, 'tard. dxAce |
"dxAce" wrote in message
... Been fun playin' with ya today, 'tard. No sweat. I had great fun as well making you display your utter stupidity. |
Joe wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Been fun playin' with ya today, 'tard. No sweat. I had great fun as well making you display your utter stupidity. "Nope. No more wasting of my time on you". Having trouble today making up your mind (sic)? dxAce |
DxAss wrote:
They cannot come and go freely, whenever and wherever they choose. Another example of how "Free" US citizens are. http://www.pakistantimes.net/2004/07/23/wire5.htm Chess legend Fischer faces possible 60 day detention in Japan Pakistan Times Wire Service TOKYO (Japan): Fugitive US chess legend Bobby Fischer could be held up to 60 days in detention while Japanese authorities decide whether to deport him for immigration violation, a justice ministry official said Friday. Fischer, 61, wanted by the United States since the early 1990s for breaking an economic embargo on Yugoslavia, was arrested at Tokyo's Narita airport on July 13 for violating immigration law as he tried to catch a flight to Manila. The United States revoked Fischer's passport last December. He faces up to 10 years in prison if he is found guilty. -- He was playing Chess in country the US government didn't like, 10 Years In Jail for You. This is Steve's Idea of Freedom. I support dxAce completely in this. Fischer deserves the DEATH penalty. He was actually caught on video tape playing CHESS against the wishes of the United States government. A country, if it is to survive as a nation, can *NOT* have it's citizens playing chess anywhere and anytime they see fit. Fischer and all the other rogue chess players should be sent, at the very minimum, to Abu Graib Torture Centre, where they will be taught to respect rightful American Government Authority. This disease of disrespect, so rampant in our Chess playing population, must be nipped in the bud before infecting other, still law abiding groups. Imagine outlaw CHECKER gangs. Mobs of vandalizing BRIDGE players and murderous Monopoly enclaves come to mind. Death to Fischer! It's for the good of all. Bless America and may God continue to guide the President's hand against the evil Islamic hordes who most likely invented this game of Satan that has so twisted the souls of unfortunates like the now Demonic Fischer. mike |
I am a bit tired of the USA trying to force hard capitalism and
American style this.. American style that.. on everyone in the world. |
RedOctober90 wrote: I am a bit tired of the USA trying to force hard capitalism and American style this.. American style that.. on everyone in the world. That's a bit like complaining about the BBC World Service trying to force British style this.. and British style that..on everyone in the world. dxAce |
dxAce wrote:
RedOctober90 wrote: I am a bit tired of the USA trying to force hard capitalism and American style this.. American style that.. on everyone in the world. That's a bit like complaining about the BBC World Service trying to force British style this.. and British style that..on everyone in the world. dxAce Not at all. The BBC is a broadcaster, the USA is a violent, corporate run fascist state. See the difference? mike |
m II wrote: dxAce wrote: RedOctober90 wrote: I am a bit tired of the USA trying to force hard capitalism and American style this.. American style that.. on everyone in the world. That's a bit like complaining about the BBC World Service trying to force British style this.. and British style that..on everyone in the world. dxAce Not at all. The BBC is a broadcaster, the USA is a violent, corporate run fascist state. See the difference? Well, actually as far as I know, Cuba is in violation of various treaties covering broadcasting... The USA is merely trying to get its message out in the face of Cuban jamming. dxAce |
dxAce wrote:
No, it is not. One cannot 'dodge the draft' and be a member of the National Guard at the same time. However, when you petition your draft board for a deferment and get turned down, so you're pretty sure you're going to get drafted, you can decide to enlist in the Navy Reserves. From the book: "John Kerry's service record indicates that on February 18, 1966, he enlisted in the United States Naval Reserves, status 'inactive', not in the U.S. Navy. These details are conveniently left out of all pro-Kerry biographies. Douglas Brinkley records that Kerry entered Offer Candidate School in Newport, Rhode Island; however, again he fails to note that Kerry was seeking to be an officer of the U.S. Naval Reserve." -- Both Kerry and Edwards announced their candidacy near the beginning of September, 2003, so let's only count votes before then. From January, 2003, to August, 2003, Senator Edwards didn't vote 69 out of 320 opportunities (~22%) and Senator Kerry didn't vote 182 out of 320 opportunities (~57%). http://www.mwilliams.info/archives/001349.php |
m II wrote:
Not at all. The BBC is a broadcaster, the USA is a violent, corporate run fascist state. See the difference? You need to escape and seek asylum in an understanding nation like Cuba. -- Both Kerry and Edwards announced their candidacy near the beginning of September, 2003, so let's only count votes before then. From January, 2003, to August, 2003, Senator Edwards didn't vote 69 out of 320 opportunities (~22%) and Senator Kerry didn't vote 182 out of 320 opportunities (~57%). http://www.mwilliams.info/archives/001349.php |
clifto wrote:
From the book: "John Kerry's service record indicates that on February 18, 1966, he enlisted in the United States Naval Reserves, status 'inactive', not in the U.S. Navy. These details are conveniently left out of all pro-Kerry biographies. Douglas Brinkley records that Kerry entered Offer Candidate School in Newport, Rhode Island; however, again he fails to note that Kerry was seeking to be an officer of the U.S. Naval Reserve." So he took part in a "delayed enlistment program", where you sign up, are placed on inactive reserve status, and several months to a year later go to active duty. Why are these guys making such a big deal of it? I did that myself with the Air Force. It has the benefit of giving you an earlier time-in-service date for promotions and stuff, and keeping you away from the Army's draft notices. I was on inactive status with the US Air Force Reserve from May to August, 1972, then went to basic training and onto active duty status with the US Air Force until May, 1984 when I got out with a full 12 years time in service. It was very commonly done, especially for someone who wanted to finish school or something without the Army's draft hanging over your head; you are already committed to (and on inactive reserve status with) the branch you desired, and don't have to play games if the Army decided to send you a notice. Most officers become "reserve officers" and are granted an active commission. These guys that wrote the book you are quoting from are purely playing games with the language in an attempt to fool those who don't know any better and make something that is common (and innocent, and accepted) look like something sneaky and underhanded. When people ask me I don't go into the big explanation about the delayed enlistment and inactive reserve service; I just say that I was in the Air Force from August 1972 to May 1984, and usually don't bother to mention that chunk of time; it was really meaningless in a military context. The *only* thing I did was sign a contract indicating my intent to go to active duty at a specific date; there were no drills involved, uniforms, haircuts, or anything else. I was still in school, then I enjoyed most of my summer vacation before going downtoen to Whiehall Street for my final induction. -- Mike NAR #70953 - Sr/HPR Level-1 ~ BEMRC - NAR Section #627 NO Junk Email, please! Real email to: amphoto [at] blarg [dot] net. WANTED: Experienced Kamikaze Pilot |
I am a bit tired of the USA trying to force hard capitalism and
American style this.. American style that.. on everyone in the world. I've never understood this argument. I don't for one agree with all of the Bush administration's policies...but at the same time why do people complain when American companies bring their products to foreign markets? Are the Japanese trying to force their culture on us by selling all their cars here? If people don't like it, they won't buy the products...but people overseas WANT American products. No one is forcing it on them. |
clifto wrote:
m II wrote: Not at all. The BBC is a broadcaster, the USA is a violent, corporate run fascist state. See the difference? You need to escape and seek asylum in an understanding nation like Cuba. Nope. I hate totalitarian states with dictatorships. It's disgusting to see how little regard you have for your Bill of Rights and Constitution. Your freedoms are being eroded quicker than ever before. Everything your founding fathers warned against is being done to you Now and from within. Wake up! mike |
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