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Diverd4777 August 25th 04 11:46 AM

What lies matter, Kerry's or Bush's?
 
In article , "GMKPLANIT"
writes:



No matter what the alleged truth is about Kerry(and I have heard men who
were there who said he saved their lives) at least he went,at least he
volunteered ,so unlike that ****ing weasel ****ter Bush he knows what it is
like to be under fire. Bush is a ****ing **** end of ,in fact he could be
Robbies father ,if he had one.

G


- No Wait, , Wait..
Give Bush Credit where it's due..
When The Chips were down & America was under attack
- He kept right on schedule with the Photo Op...



Diverd4777 August 25th 04 12:09 PM

In article , "GMKPLANIT"
writes:


Establishing the facts 35 years later is complicated by fading
memories, sometimes ambiguous archival evidence and the bitterly
partisan nature of the presidential campaign.


No matter what the alleged truth is about Kerry(and I have heard men who
were there who said he saved their lives) at least he went,at least he
volunteered ,so unlike that ****ing weasel ****ter Bush he knows what it is
like to be under fire. Bush is a ****ing **** end of ,in fact he could be
Robbies father ,if he had one.


- Now wait, wait..
Give Credit where it's due...

When Pakistan captured the head of Al Quaedas communication network
(Mohammad Naeem Noor Khan )
- Turned him around , made him our covert agent (a mole)
and had him working for us
uncovering nests of terrorists
The White House
- Eager to show how slick they were
Immediatly revealed his name to the press..
- Efectivly shutting the counter espionage operation down
to gain
.. What.. Exactly...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...hesection=news
&thesubsection=world


- Nevermind..
Four More Years...




m II August 25th 04 05:53 PM

Diverd4777 wrote:

No matter what the alleged truth is about Kerry(and I have heard men who
were there who said he saved their lives) at least he went,at least he
volunteered ,so unlike that ****ing weasel ****ter Bush he knows what it is
like to be under fire. Bush is a ****ing **** end of ,in fact he could be
Robbies father ,if he had one.

G



- No Wait, , Wait..
Give Bush Credit where it's due..
When The Chips were down & America was under attack
- He kept right on schedule with the Photo Op...



That wasn't it at all. The book was just so good that it was hard to put
down.




mike

dxAce August 25th 04 06:01 PM



m II wrote:

Diverd4777 wrote:

No matter what the alleged truth is about Kerry(and I have heard men who
were there who said he saved their lives) at least he went,at least he
volunteered ,so unlike that ****ing weasel ****ter Bush he knows what it is
like to be under fire. Bush is a ****ing **** end of ,in fact he could be
Robbies father ,if he had one.

G



- No Wait, , Wait..
Give Bush Credit where it's due..
When The Chips were down & America was under attack
- He kept right on schedule with the Photo Op...


That wasn't it at all. The book was just so good that it was hard to put
down.


That new book about Kerry, Unfit For Duty?

It is indeed a pretty good read.

dxAce



dxAce August 25th 04 06:10 PM



dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

Diverd4777 wrote:

No matter what the alleged truth is about Kerry(and I have heard men who
were there who said he saved their lives) at least he went,at least he
volunteered ,so unlike that ****ing weasel ****ter Bush he knows what it is
like to be under fire. Bush is a ****ing **** end of ,in fact he could be
Robbies father ,if he had one.

G



- No Wait, , Wait..
Give Bush Credit where it's due..
When The Chips were down & America was under attack
- He kept right on schedule with the Photo Op...


That wasn't it at all. The book was just so good that it was hard to put
down.


That new book about Kerry, Unfit For Duty?


Actually it is "Unfit For Command", but he is indeed "Unfit For Duty".

LMAO


It is indeed a pretty good read.

dxAce



m II August 25th 04 06:29 PM

dxAce wrote:

Actually it is "Unfit For Command", but he is indeed "Unfit For Duty".

LMAO


Love MAO? That explains everything! How long have you been a mole?





mike

MnMikew August 25th 04 06:30 PM


"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...
In article , "GMKPLANIT"
writes:
- No Wait, , Wait..

Give Bush Credit where it's due..
When The Chips were down & America was under attack
- He kept right on schedule with the Photo Op...

You're right. He could have run around the room like a chicken with his head
cut off like Kerry would most likely do.

Flush the Johns in '04!



dxAce August 25th 04 06:37 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Actually it is "Unfit For Command", but he is indeed "Unfit For Duty".

LMAO


Love MAO? That explains everything! How long have you been a mole?


I'm fairly certain you do love your ass off, 'tardo.

dxAce



m II August 25th 04 06:51 PM

dxAce wrote:

Actually it is "Unfit For Command", but he is indeed "Unfit For Duty".

LMAO


Love MAO? That explains everything! How long have you been a mole?



I'm fairly certain you do love your ass off, 'tardo.



The *rest* of us have heard of Chairman Mao. We think world politics and
YOU think ass. Says something. Why hasn't the shortwave experience
broadened your horizons?



mike

dxAce August 25th 04 06:55 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Actually it is "Unfit For Command", but he is indeed "Unfit For Duty".

LMAO

Love MAO? That explains everything! How long have you been a mole?



I'm fairly certain you do love your ass off, 'tardo.


The *rest* of us have heard of Chairman Mao. We think world politics and
YOU think ass. Says something. Why hasn't the shortwave experience
broadened your horizons?


It certainly hasn't broadened yours, 'tardo. You seem to know very little
about it other than what you seem to fabricate.

dxAce



m II August 25th 04 07:06 PM

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:


dxAce wrote:


Actually it is "Unfit For Command", but he is indeed "Unfit For Duty".

LMAO

Love MAO? That explains everything! How long have you been a mole?


I'm fairly certain you do love your ass off, 'tardo.


The *rest* of us have heard of Chairman Mao. We think world politics and
YOU think ass. Says something. Why hasn't the shortwave experience
broadened your horizons?



It certainly hasn't broadened yours, 'tardo. You seem to know very little
about it other than what you seem to fabricate.

dxAce




Who's tending the 'shine, Steve? You don't want ANOTHER visit from the
Feds, do you? That lightnin' sure dun burn real good dont it?


mike

Ernie August 25th 04 07:48 PM

You forgot to mention right after the photo op the HOLE the asshole went and
hid in for hours while America was being attacked!

Secret Service procedures my ass....Just another lie he was caught in the
next day by the press....BUSH RAN AND HID

Cant argue with the truth!
"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...
In article , "GMKPLANIT"
writes:



No matter what the alleged truth is about Kerry(and I have heard men who
were there who said he saved their lives) at least he went,at least he
volunteered ,so unlike that ****ing weasel ****ter Bush he knows what it

is
like to be under fire. Bush is a ****ing **** end of ,in fact he could be
Robbies father ,if he had one.

G


- No Wait, , Wait..
Give Bush Credit where it's due..
When The Chips were down & America was under attack
- He kept right on schedule with the Photo Op...






MnMikew August 25th 04 08:39 PM


"Ernie" wrote in message
...
You forgot to mention right after the photo op the HOLE the asshole went

and
hid in for hours while America was being attacked!

Secret Service procedures my ass....Just another lie he was caught in the
next day by the press....BUSH RAN AND HID


What an idiot.



Ernie August 25th 04 10:54 PM

Your momma dont think so BOY
"MnMikew" wrote in message
...

"Ernie" wrote in message
...
You forgot to mention right after the photo op the HOLE the asshole went

and
hid in for hours while America was being attacked!

Secret Service procedures my ass....Just another lie he was caught in

the
next day by the press....BUSH RAN AND HID


What an idiot.






Telamon August 26th 04 05:10 AM

In article ,
"MnMikew" wrote:

"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...
In article , "GMKPLANIT"
writes:
- No Wait, , Wait..

Give Bush Credit where it's due..
When The Chips were down & America was under attack
- He kept right on schedule with the Photo Op...

You're right. He could have run around the room like a chicken with his head
cut off like Kerry would most likely do.


Kerry would never behave like that. He said that on 9/11 he sat there
for about 40 minutes unable to think when the passenger jets hit the
twin towers. Then he heard another plane hit the Pentagon.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce August 26th 04 10:16 AM



Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"MnMikew" wrote:

"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...
In article , "GMKPLANIT"
writes:
- No Wait, , Wait..
Give Bush Credit where it's due..
When The Chips were down & America was under attack
- He kept right on schedule with the Photo Op...

You're right. He could have run around the room like a chicken with his head
cut off like Kerry would most likely do.


Kerry would never behave like that. He said that on 9/11 he sat there
for about 40 minutes unable to think when the passenger jets hit the
twin towers. Then he heard another plane hit the Pentagon.


And it was just not only 'he' who sat there for around 40 minutes 'unable to
think'. Wasn't he in Daschel's office with other Dems for a 'leadership' meeting?
As I recall what was said, Kerry stated that 'we' sat there unable to think, and
as it turned out due to the time span of aircraft hitting the WTC, and then
ultimately hitting the Pentagon that it had to be around 40 minutes or so.

The 'we sat there unable to think' quote is directly attributable to Kerry.

dxAce



Mike Terry August 29th 04 06:47 AM

Sorry, you are posting to the wrong newsgroup, this one is about shortwave
radio



Mike Terry August 31st 04 10:12 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Slartibartfast"


, which makes me wonder about the veracity of
the contents.



Actually this thread is nothing to do with shortwave radio (imho) so is
posted to the wrong newsgroup. I suggest alt.politics.



Mike Terry August 31st 04 10:15 PM


"Kameron Spesial" wrote in message
Don - Thanks for the political rap but this is the shortwave
newsgroup.


Well said Kameron, absolutely right.

73s

Mike



longwave September 5th 04 07:05 AM

Dan wrote:

On 4 Sep 2004 10:33:15 -0700,
(DonQuijote1954) wrote:

"Did Bush lie to us or simply he didn't tell us the truth?"

Well, I admit that's a bit of a loaded question, but since the media
insists on not using the word "lie"...


Neither. We acted on bad information. Slight difference there.

Dan


One of the most important responsibilities of any president is to
question what others tell him. Bush wasn't smart enough to ask the right
questions about the intelligence reports.


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Michael Bryant September 5th 04 11:27 AM

From: "Lloyd" NoLloyd@nospam

Lest you forget, our country suffered the greatest loss of civilian lives
since World War Two. What would you have our President do? Toss in a white
flag of surrender as Al Gore would have done?


Why not attack some country, then, that had something to do with 9/11?

Or is the death of any Muslim good enough for you?


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A,
Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll,
Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nospam" to reply)

dxAce September 5th 04 12:48 PM



longwave wrote:

Dan wrote:

On 4 Sep 2004 10:33:15 -0700,
(DonQuijote1954) wrote:

"Did Bush lie to us or simply he didn't tell us the truth?"

Well, I admit that's a bit of a loaded question, but since the media
insists on not using the word "lie"...


Neither. We acted on bad information. Slight difference there.

Dan


One of the most important responsibilities of any president is to
question what others tell him. Bush wasn't smart enough to ask the right
questions about the intelligence reports.


Well, in that case, neither was Kerry.

dxAce



RHF September 5th 04 03:22 PM

= = = ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ...
From: "Lloyd" NoLloyd@nospam


Lest you forget, our country suffered the greatest loss of civilian lives
since World War Two. What would you have our President do? Toss in a white
flag of surrender as Al Gore would have done?


Why not attack some country, then, that had something to do with 9/11?


MWB - Have you forgotten Afghanistan ?
..
..
Or is the death of any Muslim good enough for you ?


Maybe... MWB - Have You 'converted' to Islam ?
..
..
Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A,
Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll,
Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nospam" to reply)


~ RHF
..

Telamon September 5th 04 08:55 PM

In article ,
longwave wrote:

Dan wrote:

On 4 Sep 2004 10:33:15 -0700,
(DonQuijote1954) wrote:

"Did Bush lie to us or simply he didn't tell us the truth?"

Well, I admit that's a bit of a loaded question, but since the media
insists on not using the word "lie"...


Neither. We acted on bad information. Slight difference there.

Dan


One of the most important responsibilities of any president is to
question what others tell him. Bush wasn't smart enough to ask the right
questions about the intelligence reports.


I think Bush has learned a lesson on accepting what is in intelligence
reports.

I have certainly learned a lesson on what Kerry would have me believe.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Kameron Spesial September 5th 04 10:05 PM

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:55:58 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
longwave wrote:

Dan wrote:

On 4 Sep 2004 10:33:15 -0700,
(DonQuijote1954) wrote:

"Did Bush lie to us or simply he didn't tell us the truth?"

Well, I admit that's a bit of a loaded question, but since the media
insists on not using the word "lie"...

Neither. We acted on bad information. Slight difference there.

Dan


One of the most important responsibilities of any president is to
question what others tell him. Bush wasn't smart enough to ask the right
questions about the intelligence reports.


I think Bush has learned a lesson on accepting what is in intelligence
reports.

I have certainly learned a lesson on what Kerry would have me believe.


I'm a Bush supporter but I've got to give Telamon the big wet
raspberry. Why would anyone consider your arguments? You only take
the "right", republican side - no matter what. Until you can show
some objectivity you're just a big idiot.

Telamon September 5th 04 11:09 PM

In article ,
Kameron Spesial wrote:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:55:58 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
longwave wrote:

Dan wrote:

On 4 Sep 2004 10:33:15 -0700,
(DonQuijote1954) wrote:

"Did Bush lie to us or simply he didn't tell us the truth?"

Well, I admit that's a bit of a loaded question, but since the
media insists on not using the word "lie"...

Neither. We acted on bad information. Slight difference
there.

Dan

One of the most important responsibilities of any president is to
question what others tell him. Bush wasn't smart enough to ask the
right questions about the intelligence reports.


I think Bush has learned a lesson on accepting what is in
intelligence reports.

I have certainly learned a lesson on what Kerry would have me
believe.


I'm a Bush supporter but I've got to give Telamon the big wet
raspberry. Why would anyone consider your arguments? You only take
the "right", republican side - no matter what. Until you can show
some objectivity you're just a big idiot.


Well, an idiot might not consider my arguments but any rational person
would. You just keep burning your hand on the stove. My choice is to not
vote for the guy that lies about Vietnam war and provides support to our
enemies.

Well, you have just displayed your ignorance and of course made yourself
out to look like a moron since I am not a Republican. I have stated
here a number of times that I am an independent conservative voter.

Now I'll leave it to you to figure out why I will vote for Bush over
Kerry.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Kameron Spesial September 5th 04 11:30 PM

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 22:09:49 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
Kameron Spesial wrote:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:55:58 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
longwave wrote:

Dan wrote:

On 4 Sep 2004 10:33:15 -0700,
(DonQuijote1954) wrote:

"Did Bush lie to us or simply he didn't tell us the truth?"

Well, I admit that's a bit of a loaded question, but since the
media insists on not using the word "lie"...

Neither. We acted on bad information. Slight difference
there.

Dan

One of the most important responsibilities of any president is to
question what others tell him. Bush wasn't smart enough to ask the
right questions about the intelligence reports.

I think Bush has learned a lesson on accepting what is in
intelligence reports.

I have certainly learned a lesson on what Kerry would have me
believe.


I'm a Bush supporter but I've got to give Telamon the big wet
raspberry. Why would anyone consider your arguments? You only take
the "right", republican side - no matter what. Until you can show
some objectivity you're just a big idiot.


Well, an idiot might not consider my arguments but any rational person
would. You just keep burning your hand on the stove. My choice is to not
vote for the guy that lies about Vietnam war and provides support to our
enemies.

Well, you have just displayed your ignorance and of course made yourself
out to look like a moron since I am not a Republican. I have stated
here a number of times that I am an independent conservative voter.

Now I'll leave it to you to figure out why I will vote for Bush over
Kerry.



So show us how you hate Bush's immigration stance and his belief that
a 7 trillion dollar debt is OK. Be ****ed that he's not a war
veteran. It's OK. I understand those things and still support him.
But show us a little objectivity once in awhile and maybe the lefties
will listen to you now and then.

MnMikew September 7th 04 05:57 PM


"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: "Lloyd" NoLloyd@nospam


Lest you forget, our country suffered the greatest loss of civilian lives
since World War Two. What would you have our President do? Toss in a

white
flag of surrender as Al Gore would have done?


Why not attack some country, then, that had something to do with 9/11?

Or is the death of any Muslim good enough for you?

Answer us this Bryant, where is the outrage from the Muslim community about
9/11 and now Russia? Hummmm, silence.



nojunk@this_address.com (Mike Pearson September 7th 04 10:15 PM

MnMikew wrote:

where is the outrage from the Muslim community about
9/11 and now Russia?


Just because Fox News, Newsmax, and WorldNetDaily didn't report it
doesn't mean that it didn't happen:

http://www.masnet.org/news.asp?id=1620

--
Mike
NAR #70953 - Sr/HPR Level-1 ~ BEMRC - NAR Section #627
NO Junk Email, please! Real email to: amphoto [at] blarg [dot] net.
WANTED: Experienced Kamikaze Pilot

MnMikew September 7th 04 10:26 PM


"Mike Pearson see .sig" wrote in message
...
MnMikew wrote:

where is the outrage from the Muslim community about
9/11 and now Russia?


Just because Fox News, Newsmax, and WorldNetDaily didn't report it
doesn't mean that it didn't happen:

http://www.masnet.org/news.asp?id=1620

Big deal. Time for action. Time for the so-called moderate Muslims to step
up to the plate and do something about it. They need to establish a TIT line
(turn in terrorists) like we have TIP (turn in poachers). :-)



Michael Bryant September 14th 04 03:25 PM

From: Kameron Spesial

Whoa, you are one scary dude. Irrational thinking, paranoia, and just
downright stupidity. Easy to see why you always take one side. I
actually feel sorry for you.



Yep, if Bush actually believed any of the demented thinking expressed by
conservatives in this NG, his defeat would be assured.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A,
Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll,
Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nospam" to reply)

dxAce September 14th 04 03:32 PM



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: Kameron Spesial


Whoa, you are one scary dude. Irrational thinking, paranoia, and just
downright stupidity. Easy to see why you always take one side. I
actually feel sorry for you.



Yep, if Bush actually believed any of the demented thinking expressed by
conservatives in this NG, his defeat would be assured.


Well, obviously Kerry believes the demented thinking expressed by Liberals in
this NG, thereby ensuring his defeat.

Something to think about, Fat Boy.

dxAce



MnMikew September 14th 04 06:10 PM


"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: Kameron Spesial


Whoa, you are one scary dude. Irrational thinking, paranoia, and just
downright stupidity. Easy to see why you always take one side. I
actually feel sorry for you.



Yep, if Bush actually believed any of the demented thinking expressed by
conservatives in this NG, his defeat would be assured.

How are you going to explain Kerrys defeat in Nov.?



Telamon September 15th 04 04:40 AM

In article ,
ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote:

From: Kameron Spesial


Whoa, you are one scary dude. Irrational thinking, paranoia, and just
downright stupidity. Easy to see why you always take one side. I
actually feel sorry for you.



Yep, if Bush actually believed any of the demented thinking expressed by
conservatives in this NG, his defeat would be assured.


Well thank God no one else is as confused as you are but that is what
happens you your life is one big festering lie.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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