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How Things Change
Wow. I haven't read this group in about 4 years (was a regular
back then), and it's rather interesting how things have changed. Back then, the big on topic discussion was the Satellit 800, and the big off topic discussion was the neo-nazis and white supremacists. Now, it seems that the 'ol 800 has dropped off the map, and the big off topic discussion is bush v. kerry in it's many forms. To be honest, I'm amazed that the group hasn't imploded, since it came very close to having all posters leave for yahoo groups for moderation purposes. I don't suppose any other old timers are around?? --Mike L. |
Wow. I haven't read this group in about 4 years (was a regular
back then), and it's rather interesting how things have changed It's my understanding that shortwave radio itself has also changed inbetween the time I stopped listening to it (due to equipment failure years ago) and the time I once again had the capability to listen to it (more recently). I don't suppose any other old timers are around?? It depends on what you mean by "old timers". If you mean on this newsgroup, then I'm not an old-timer, as I've only been on this newsgroup recently. If you mean shortwave listening, then I'm an "old timer" as I started listening to shortwave radio in either the late 60's or early 70's. I think it was more towards the early 70's as I think that's when I first regularly had access to a shortwave radio. around early 1971, if I recall correctly. |
Actually, I meant old-timer as far as the group goes.
I know that there are tons of old timers still around the hobby (judging by the crowd at Dayton every year). --Mike L. "Stereophile22" wrote in message ... Wow. I haven't read this group in about 4 years (was a regular back then), and it's rather interesting how things have changed It's my understanding that shortwave radio itself has also changed inbetween the time I stopped listening to it (due to equipment failure years ago) and the time I once again had the capability to listen to it (more recently). I don't suppose any other old timers are around?? It depends on what you mean by "old timers". If you mean on this newsgroup, then I'm not an old-timer, as I've only been on this newsgroup recently. If you mean shortwave listening, then I'm an "old timer" as I started listening to shortwave radio in either the late 60's or early 70's. I think it was more towards the early 70's as I think that's when I first regularly had access to a shortwave radio. around early 1971, if I recall correctly. |
"Michael Lawson" wrote in message ... Wow. I haven't read this group in about 4 years (was a regular back then), and it's rather interesting how things have changed. Back then, the big on topic discussion was the Satellit 800, and the big off topic discussion was the neo-nazis and white supremacists. Yes things have changed. Politics and pr0n seem to be the rule of the day in NG's since RH cleaned up all the mess' on 20 and 75 Meters. I guess all we need now is links to the new al-queda beheading video which is now up on www.ogrish.com (...er...whoops! sorry ;) |
Some would say Bush is a NeoNazi.
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:37:15 -0400, "Michael Lawson" wrote: Wow. I haven't read this group in about 4 years (was a regular back then), and it's rather interesting how things have changed. Back then, the big on topic discussion was the Satellit 800, and the big off topic discussion was the neo-nazis and white supremacists. Now, it seems that the 'ol 800 has dropped off the map, and the big off topic discussion is bush v. kerry in it's many forms. To be honest, I'm amazed that the group hasn't imploded, since it came very close to having all posters leave for yahoo groups for moderation purposes. I don't suppose any other old timers are around?? --Mike L. |
"David" wrote in message ... | Some would say Bush is a NeoNazi. And some would say that juggling hand grenades constitutes sensible recreation. 73, -- Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota (NOTE: My email address has only one "dot." You'll have to edit out the one between the "7" and the "3" in my email address if you wish to reply via email) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.752 / Virus Database: 503 - Release Date: 9/3/04 |
Yep, been here about 7 years. Really hasn't changed much. the topics of
discussion just move on to current ones. "Michael Lawson" wrote in message ... Wow. I haven't read this group in about 4 years (was a regular back then), and it's rather interesting how things have changed. Back then, the big on topic discussion was the Satellit 800, and the big off topic discussion was the neo-nazis and white supremacists. Now, it seems that the 'ol 800 has dropped off the map, and the big off topic discussion is bush v. kerry in it's many forms. To be honest, I'm amazed that the group hasn't imploded, since it came very close to having all posters leave for yahoo groups for moderation purposes. I don't suppose any other old timers are around?? --Mike L. |
David wrote: Some would say Bush is a NeoNazi. Only total idiots such as yourself. dxAce |
From: "CW" noadddress@spam free.com
Yep, been here about 7 years. Really hasn't changed much. the topics of discussion just move on to current ones. You seem to be making fewer overtly racist posts these days. I'll give Bush that, he seems to have refocused your, and others in this NG, racist hatred abroad. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A, Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nospam" to reply) |
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: "CW" noadddress@spam free.com Yep, been here about 7 years. Really hasn't changed much. the topics of discussion just move on to current ones. You seem to be making fewer overtly racist posts these days. I'll give Bush that, he seems to have refocused your, and others in this NG, racist hatred abroad. Hey Mr. Fabricator! Have you ever reported him to his ISP? B.H. |
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writes: You seem to be making fewer overtly racist posts these days. I'll give Bush that, he seems to have refocused your, and others in this NG, racist hatred abroad. Yes, that would be towards the people who hate us and want to kill us if they can't "convert" us! Dan - And if we really screw up this War On Terror ( as appears to be the case) they will reverse the Head Scarf rule in France And Kill The Journalists . . . - Among others . . . http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...how/840006.cms |
Since I have that twit killfiled, the only way I read his remarks are by
someone else's quotation. He started this bit about me being a racist years ago. I asked him then for proof. Of course, he could not provide any then('course, he still thinks I'm a white guy) and he can't know. "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: "CW" noadddress@spam free.com Yep, been here about 7 years. Really hasn't changed much. the topics of discussion just move on to current ones. You seem to be making fewer overtly racist posts these days. I'll give Bush that, he seems to have refocused your, and others in this NG, racist hatred abroad. Hey Mr. Fabricator! Have you ever reported him to his ISP? B.H. |
"CW" no adddress@spam free.com wrote in message ... Since I have that twit killfiled, the only way I read his remarks are by someone else's quotation. He started this bit about me being a racist years ago. I asked him then for proof. Of course, he could not provide any then('course, he still thinks I'm a white guy) and he can't know. I know CW. He's something else. I don't know what but he is. B.H. |
On 06 Sep 2004 02:23:01 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote: Makin a whole bunch of unhappy people and in the process - more terrorists. Hey - but it's all black and white for you. Right - Lt. Dan? Sort of like making hot-water even hotter... So what? You're crazy dude. |
On 5 Sep 2004 22:42:40 -0500, Dan wrote:
What do you want us to do - not fight back so they will like us? Yes - exactly. Now you've got it. |
"Kameron Spesial" wrote in message ... On 5 Sep 2004 22:42:40 -0500, Dan wrote: What do you want us to do - not fight back so they will like us? Yes - exactly. Now you've got it. I can't beleive you said that. You really don't know whats going on. Do you? READ MY LIPS " THEY DON"T CARE IF WE FIGHT OR NOT BECAUSE THEY"RE STILL GOING TO TRY AND KILL US" Got it? B.H. |
Brian Hill wrote:
What do you want us to do - not fight back so they will like us? Yes - exactly. Now you've got it. I can't beleive you said that. You really don't know whats going on. Do you? READ MY LIPS " THEY DON"T CARE IF WE FIGHT OR NOT BECAUSE THEY"RE STILL GOING TO TRY AND KILL US" Got it? Are you a member of the American Taliban? You've been as brainwashed as those hardcore nasties. Same coin, different sides. There's a poor shepherd over there saying exactly the SAME words you said. Did the same people get to him? Starting animosities and wars is a fine art in certain circles. Find who benefits from all this warmongering and you'll solve the puzzle. mike |
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m II wrote: Brian Hill wrote: What do you want us to do - not fight back so they will like us? Yes - exactly. Now you've got it. I can't beleive you said that. You really don't know whats going on. Do you? READ MY LIPS " THEY DON"T CARE IF WE FIGHT OR NOT BECAUSE THEY"RE STILL GOING TO TRY AND KILL US" Got it? Are you a member of the American Taliban? You've been as brainwashed as those hardcore nasties. Same coin, different sides. He might be related to the 3,000 permanently brainwashed people from New York city from a few years back or the people flying jet airliners at the time or maybe the people in the parking garage below the twin towers a few years before that or the frigate in the gulf hit by a missile or one of a few bombed embassies over the years or... well, maybe you get the picture by now, most people have. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Dan wrote:
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 04:05:52 GMT, Kameron Spesial wrote: On 5 Sep 2004 22:42:40 -0500, Dan wrote: What do you want us to do - not fight back so they will like us? Yes - exactly. Now you've got it. You're insane. Even on a personal level, if someone doesn't like me, that's *their* problem, not mine. I'm not going to go around changing my behaviour, trying to please everyone. You can *not* negotiate with people who want only to kill you. The Islamic dirtbags don't like us because we are not Islamic. It's as simple as that. Their entire "religion" is based on converting "infidels" - that is, people like you and me. If they can't convert us, they are told to kill us. That's it. There is no "getting along", there is no "live and let live". You are referring to the Islamic extremist ideology which is a small minority of the Islamic religion. These extremists have hijacked their religion from the hundreds of millions of Islamic moderates throughout the world. If the extremists are to be controlled, it will require the efforts of the moderates to take back their religion. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
= = = longwave wrote in message
= = = ... Dan wrote: On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 04:05:52 GMT, Kameron Spesial wrote: On 5 Sep 2004 22:42:40 -0500, Dan wrote: What do you want us to do - not fight back so they will like us? Yes - exactly. Now you've got it. You're insane. Even on a personal level, if someone doesn't like me, that's *their* problem, not mine. I'm not going to go around changing my behaviour, trying to please everyone. You can *not* negotiate with people who want only to kill you. The Islamic dirtbags don't like us because we are not Islamic. It's as simple as that. Their entire "religion" is based on converting "infidels" - that is, people like you and me. If they can't convert us, they are told to kill us. That's it. There is no "getting along", there is no "live and let live". You are referring to the Islamic extremist ideology which is a small minority of the Islamic religion. These extremists have hijacked their religion from the hundreds of millions of Islamic moderates throughout the world. If the extremists are to be controlled, it will require the efforts of the moderates to take back their religion. LW, The so called 'moderates' have not been able to "Take-Back-Control" of the Democrat or Republican Parties in the USofA. The Islam-O-Fascist are more 'extreme', committed and deadly than either the Liberal Democrats or the Conservative Republicans. So What Real Chance ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Do the 'moderate' Muslams have against the Islam-O-Fascist ? iwtk ~ RHF .. |
Dan wrote:
The idea of a "Moderate Islamic" state is absurd. They are not a "small minority" of Muslims. They are a growing majority of Muslims in the Mid East, if not the world. The more they get attacked by the GI Joe wannabes the more of them there's going to be. If it was happening to YOU, Wouldn't YOU fight back to stop all the 'pre-emptive' actions by an international bully? Dump Bush before he alienates even more of the world. There's no difference between now and the Russians in Afghanistan and we CHEERED the Afghanis every time they got a Russian tank. Lack of any coherent foreign policy is the direct cause of all this garbage, not some underfed goat herder half way around the world. mike |
"Dan" wrote in message ... On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 04:05:52 GMT, Kameron Spesial wrote: If they can't convert us, they are told to kill us. Sounds positively Christian, doesn't it? |
"m II" wrote in message news:oiS_c.118709$X12.32674@edtnps84... Brian Hill wrote: What do you want us to do - not fight back so they will like us? Yes - exactly. Now you've got it. I can't beleive you said that. You really don't know whats going on. Do you? READ MY LIPS " THEY DON"T CARE IF WE FIGHT OR NOT BECAUSE THEY"RE STILL GOING TO TRY AND KILL US" Got it? Are you a member of the American Taliban? You've been as brainwashed as those hardcore nasties. Same coin, different sides. There's a poor shepherd over there saying exactly the SAME words you said. Did the same people get to him? Starting animosities and wars is a fine art in certain circles. Find who benefits from all this warmongering and you'll solve the puzzle. mike Whatever Mike Shaking Head B.H. |
"m II" wrote in message So..you ARE an American Taliban. Nice going, fundamentalist. mike Survivalist. And I didn't start the war. Now go hide under the bed. -- 73 and good DXing. Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire! Zumbrota, Southern MN Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/ |
m II wrote: Dan wrote: Yes I would fight back. We *are* fighting back, because WE WERE attacked by an "international bully"! Congratulations! You now understand what this war is all about. I'm stupid. Yes, you certainly are. dxAce |
"m II" wrote in message I'm stupid. tou·ché!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! B.H. |
Dan wrote:
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 14:46:48 GMT, m II wrote: Dan wrote: The idea of a "Moderate Islamic" state is absurd. They are not a "small minority" of Muslims. They are a growing majority of Muslims in the Mid East, if not the world. The more they get attacked by the GI Joe wannabes the more of them there's going to be. If it was happening to YOU, Wouldn't YOU fight back to stop all the 'pre-emptive' actions by an international bully? Yes I would fight back. We *are* fighting back, because WE WERE attacked by an "international bully"! Congratulations! You now understand what this war is all about. Dan Try to get it through your head that we were attacked by a relatively small minority of Islamic fanatics. The moderate majority of Muslims must be encouraged to take on the fanatics within their religion if this kind of terrorism is to be defeated. The west can not do it alone. It must be done within the Muslim community. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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i have been hanging around probably six years. everything looks the same
to me. if you really need good advise on radio the older guys will come out of the woodwork. you can get a good four or five replies before the thread goes flying off topic. this group wont implode because most of us suck. everyone hates everyone else and each of us cant wait to ridicule another for their off topic post. the ones who dont take an active part in the carnage and slaughter that goes on here all hold the coats for the active contestants. their short posts of support to various sides bolsters their egos and keeps the cycle strong. meanwhile the few adults scan for on topic posts to reply to and maintain enough real legitimate traffic to rationalise the groups existence in the first place! oh! what a wonderful mechanism this group is! so dynamic and finely tuned as to support itself on its own irrelevancy. like a feed-back loop! like a bull**** powered oscillator that pits apathy against hatred to heterodyne together! the tone you hear is not noise, it is the life, the pulse of rec.radio. shortwave! ............ you know you love this place. if not then why did you come back? |
Jim wrote:
i have been hanging around probably six years. everything looks the same to me. if you really need good advise on radio the older guys will come out of the woodwork. you can get a good four or five replies before the thread goes flying off topic. this group wont implode because most of us suck. everyone hates everyone else and each of us cant wait to ridicule another for their off topic post. the ones who dont take an active part in the carnage and slaughter that goes on here all hold the coats for the active contestants. their short posts of support to various sides bolsters their egos and keeps the cycle strong. meanwhile the few adults scan for on topic posts to reply to and maintain enough real legitimate traffic to rationalise the groups existence in the first place! oh! what a wonderful mechanism this group is! so dynamic and finely tuned as to support itself on its own irrelevancy. like a feed-back loop! like a bull**** powered oscillator that pits apathy against hatred to heterodyne together! the tone you hear is not noise, it is the life, the pulse of rec.radio. shortwave! ............ you know you love this place. if not then why did you come back? For the free beer. -- "The Democrats are all over this. Democratic strategists feel John Kerry's war record means he can beat Bush. They say when it comes down to it, voters will always vote for a war hero over someone who tried to get out of the war. I'll be sure to mention that to Bob Dole when I see him." -- Jay Leno |
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clifto wrote: Jim wrote: i have been hanging around probably six years. everything looks the same to me. if you really need good advise on radio the older guys will come out of the woodwork. you can get a good four or five replies before the thread goes flying off topic. this group wont implode because most of us suck. everyone hates everyone else and each of us cant wait to ridicule another for their off topic post. the ones who dont take an active part in the carnage and slaughter that goes on here all hold the coats for the active contestants. their short posts of support to various sides bolsters their egos and keeps the cycle strong. meanwhile the few adults scan for on topic posts to reply to and maintain enough real legitimate traffic to rationalise the groups existence in the first place! oh! what a wonderful mechanism this group is! so dynamic and finely tuned as to support itself on its own irrelevancy. like a feed-back loop! like a bull**** powered oscillator that pits apathy against hatred to heterodyne together! the tone you hear is not noise, it is the life, the pulse of rec.radio. shortwave! ............ you know you love this place. if not then why did you come back? For the free beer. And the entertainment value. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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