Congratulations and well done on some superb logs as usual, especially from
suburban Puyallup.

RRI Serui is interesting. I see that it is now moved from 4606.6 to 4605! -
I think reception in U.S. is favoured by the fact that the Serui TX has the
large mass of Irian Jaya mainland behind it and the high mountains. In my
empirical experience this would favour transmission to your QTH as some of
the transmitted signal would bounce off the mountains in your direction.
Received here in Montagu at 2100 utc, bang on local Serui sunrise. Very
faint though and confirms it's 500 watt power. Only managed a very faint RRI
"Radio Republika Indonesia" ID. Signal was barely readable and only came in
for about ten minutes.

OTOH I received RRI Fak Fak also at 2100 utc booming in quite clear with
excellent ID's on 4790 Khz. According to my theory Fak Fak is located on a
large bay with its outlook pointing directly to South Africa and mountains
behind the TX favouring reception in my area. This is also confirmed by the
fact that the signal is so strong here that it gives the impression that the
TX power is much more than the listed 1 Kw, but bear in mind that it is not
received in the U.S. at all.

Both Serui and Fak Fak were received at 2100 utc on 040906
They are both equidistant from Puyallup and Montagu - some 7,500 miles.
--
John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s.
RX Drake R8B, SW8
BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A.
Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940
GE circa 50's radiogram
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop

"4nradio" wrote in message
news:zt2%c.44084$3l3.14509@attbi_s03...

SHORTWAVE


INDONESIA 4604.9, 1326-1458*, RRI Serui Sep 4 Caught tail end of RRI
network
broadcast, with RRI promo and announcements leading up to 'RRI Serui' ID
by
male, 'Waktu Timur' time check, other announcements, and into very nice
lagu
hiburan music. ID again at 1336. Excellent, pounding signal at tune-in;
best
ever heard. Signal only weakening slightly past local sunrise. Low studio
modulation ID by male and voice-over steel guitar type instrument at 1454;
Love Ambon tune at 1455 (slightly upbeat, peppy version I've never heard
before), and announcer with ID, time check, frequency, and announcements
1456. At 1458* Love Ambon ended with Serui sign-off (1-1/2 hours past
local
SR). Also heard at great levels on August 5. Can Serui really be just 500
watts? Sounds more like 10 kw. (Atkins-WA)


***BELOW are bang on local sunrise here in South Africa

SOUTH AFRICA 3255, 0416-0420, SABC Meyerton Sep 2 BBC World Service news
or
commentary by man, with discussion about US Bush adminstration's dealings
with Mexico, and into business news 0420. Fair signal at Meyerton sunrise,
and parallel to 5975. (Atkins-WA)

SOUTH AFRICA 3320, 0432-0438, R. Sonder Grense Sep 2 Tentative. Weak
signal
of what seemed to be Afrikaans lang. by male. Ute QRM on frequency also,
disturbing the copy of Sonder Grense. Fading signal just past Meyerton
sunrise. (Atkins-WA)

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA
Modified RA6790GM & R75
Kiwa MAP / ERGO / DSP-59+
450 & 700 ft. Beverage Antennas

John Plimmer wrote:

Congratulations and well done on some superb logs as usual, especially from
suburban Puyallup.

RRI Serui is interesting. I see that it is now moved from 4606.6 to 4605! -
I think reception in U.S. is favoured by the fact that the Serui TX has the
large mass of Irian Jaya mainland behind it and the high mountains. In my
empirical experience this would favour transmission to your QTH as some of
the transmitted signal would bounce off the mountains in your direction.
Received here in Montagu at 2100 utc, bang on local Serui sunrise. Very
faint though and confirms it's 500 watt power. Only managed a very faint RRI
"Radio Republika Indonesia" ID. Signal was barely readable and only came in
for about ten minutes.

OTOH I received RRI Fak Fak also at 2100 utc booming in quite clear with
excellent ID's on 4790 Khz. According to my theory Fak Fak is located on a
large bay with its outlook pointing directly to South Africa and mountains
behind the TX favouring reception in my area. This is also confirmed by the
fact that the signal is so strong here that it gives the impression that the
TX power is much more than the listed 1 Kw, but bear in mind that it is not
received in the U.S. at all.

Why would you say Fak Fak is not received in the U.S. at all? It is reported
here from time to time.

I don't think the mountains have a lot to do with it.

dxAce

dxAce wrote:

John Plimmer wrote:

Congratulations and well done on some superb logs as usual, especially from
suburban Puyallup.

RRI Serui is interesting. I see that it is now moved from 4606.6 to 4605! -
I think reception in U.S. is favoured by the fact that the Serui TX has the
large mass of Irian Jaya mainland behind it and the high mountains. In my
empirical experience this would favour transmission to your QTH as some of
the transmitted signal would bounce off the mountains in your direction.
Received here in Montagu at 2100 utc, bang on local Serui sunrise. Very
faint though and confirms it's 500 watt power. Only managed a very faint RRI
"Radio Republika Indonesia" ID. Signal was barely readable and only came in
for about ten minutes.

OTOH I received RRI Fak Fak also at 2100 utc booming in quite clear with
excellent ID's on 4790 Khz. According to my theory Fak Fak is located on a
large bay with its outlook pointing directly to South Africa and mountains
behind the TX favouring reception in my area. This is also confirmed by the
fact that the signal is so strong here that it gives the impression that the
TX power is much more than the listed 1 Kw, but bear in mind that it is not
received in the U.S. at all.

Why would you say Fak Fak is not received in the U.S. at all? It is reported
here from time to time.

In fact, I believe it is them that I have here at 1200 on 4789.95 or so.

I don't think the mountains have a lot to do with it.

dxAce

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

John Plimmer wrote:

Congratulations and well done on some superb logs as usual, especially from
suburban Puyallup.

RRI Serui is interesting. I see that it is now moved from 4606.6 to 4605! -
I think reception in U.S. is favoured by the fact that the Serui TX has the
large mass of Irian Jaya mainland behind it and the high mountains. In my
empirical experience this would favour transmission to your QTH as some of
the transmitted signal would bounce off the mountains in your direction.
Received here in Montagu at 2100 utc, bang on local Serui sunrise. Very
faint though and confirms it's 500 watt power. Only managed a very faint RRI
"Radio Republika Indonesia" ID. Signal was barely readable and only came in
for about ten minutes.

OTOH I received RRI Fak Fak also at 2100 utc booming in quite clear with
excellent ID's on 4790 Khz. According to my theory Fak Fak is located on a
large bay with its outlook pointing directly to South Africa and mountains
behind the TX favouring reception in my area. This is also confirmed by the
fact that the signal is so strong here that it gives the impression that the
TX power is much more than the listed 1 Kw, but bear in mind that it is not
received in the U.S. at all.

Why would you say Fak Fak is not received in the U.S. at all? It is reported
here from time to time.

In fact, I believe it is them that I have here at 1200 on 4789.95 or so.

Fak Fak signal still holding up well here, SCI (Song of the Cocoanut Isles) at 1200,
mentions of Indonesia, then into presumed news, and the ocean radar (swisher), has
faded a bit. Like a lot of stations, the voice modulation seems a bit low, but the
music comes through quite well.

One of the better Indo's on the band this morning.

I don't think the mountains have a lot to do with it.

dxAce
Michigan

In article , dxAce wrote:
mentions of Indonesia, then into presumed news, and the ocean radar
(swisher), has
faded a bit. Like a lot of stations, the voice modulation seems a bit

Is there any site/source for the current details on what Over the
Horizon Radars are running and their impact on SWL?

(Yea, we're all glad the Woodpecker is gone).

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

Mark Zenier wrote:

Is there any site/source for the current details on what Over the
Horizon Radars are running and their impact on SWL?

(Yea, we're all glad the Woodpecker is gone).

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

The CODAR transmitters are causing some serious QRM on the tropical
bands in the range 4500-5000/Khz. I've emailed some of the operators,
which are usually universities, to remind them that their transmitters
are disrupting certain international broadcasts. However the FCC
encouraged them to use these frequencies because shortwave listeners are
at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to interference from licensed
stations such as CODAR. The current FCC chairman doesn't seem to care
about the possible interference from the proposed BPL systems, so I
doubt he's concerned about CODAR interference to shortwave listeners.


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In article , starman
wrote:

Mark Zenier wrote:

Is there any site/source for the current details on what Over the
Horizon Radars are running and their impact on SWL?

(Yea, we're all glad the Woodpecker is gone).

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

The CODAR transmitters are causing some serious QRM on the tropical
bands in the range 4500-5000/Khz. I've emailed some of the operators,
which are usually universities, to remind them that their transmitters
are disrupting certain international broadcasts. However the FCC
encouraged them to use these frequencies because shortwave listeners are
at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to interference from licensed
stations such as CODAR. The current FCC chairman doesn't seem to care
about the possible interference from the proposed BPL systems, so I
doubt he's concerned about CODAR interference to shortwave listeners.

I get interference on two bands. The high end of 25 meters and the low
end of 22 meters. About as annoying as the Bryant interference on RRS.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

John Plimmer wrote:

Congratulations and well done on some superb logs as usual, especially from
suburban Puyallup.

RRI Serui is interesting. I see that it is now moved from 4606.6 to 4605! -
I think reception in U.S. is favoured by the fact that the Serui TX has the
large mass of Irian Jaya mainland behind it and the high mountains. In my
empirical experience this would favour transmission to your QTH as some of
the transmitted signal would bounce off the mountains in your direction.
Received here in Montagu at 2100 utc, bang on local Serui sunrise. Very
faint though and confirms it's 500 watt power. Only managed a very faint RRI
"Radio Republika Indonesia" ID. Signal was barely readable and only came in
for about ten minutes.

OTOH I received RRI Fak Fak also at 2100 utc booming in quite clear with
excellent ID's on 4790 Khz. According to my theory Fak Fak is located on a
large bay with its outlook pointing directly to South Africa and mountains
behind the TX favouring reception in my area. This is also confirmed by the
fact that the signal is so strong here that it gives the impression that the
TX power is much more than the listed 1 Kw, but bear in mind that it is not
received in the U.S. at all.

Why would you say Fak Fak is not received in the U.S. at all? It is reported
here from time to time.

In fact, I believe it is them that I have here at 1200 on 4789.95 or so.

That should have been 1100.



I don't think the mountains have a lot to do with it.

dxAce

Steve, I congratulate you on getting RRI Fak Fak - I'm sure it doesn't come
in everyday in Holland Michigan.
Okay, I have not seen Fak Fak logged recently in the U.S. but have seen
several logs for RRI Serui, hence my comment.
Also, Guy Atkins in Puyallup, an extremely experienced DXer did not log Fak
Fak alongside his Serui log, although he was sure to have tried for it.

You have mentioned befo
I don't think the mountains have a lot to do with it.
but I beg to differ with your opinion. Here in Montagu, my QTH is surrounded
by high mountains and long distance DX comes in very rarely compared with
say a coastal site or a location on a flat plain. I'm not saying it NEVER
comes in, because, of course, my logs show that it does, but that is
occasionally. OTOH if I go on a DXpedition to the coast, then the very long
distance DX come's in everyday very easily.

It has also been written about in professional radio books and by
experienced DXers that long distance DX is very "low angle", which confirms
my own experience that high hills and/or mountains blocks out some of the
exotic long distance DX signals.

I have been on very many DXpeditions to a wide variety of locations and have
formed the opinion that better DX results are obtained if you are in a
"bowl" with its opening out towards the path of the TX site you are trying
for. This is even more enhanced at the coast if you are in a bay backed by
hills or mountains, and the mouth of the bay opens out towards your intended
target area. Magical results can be obtained under those circumstances.

Lastly, I receive more far distant DX from areas that have an open path to
my QTH, whereas getting Peru from over the Andes is a very rare occurrence.
Hence my opinion that mountains block long distance low angle DX signals.

--
John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 540 s, East 20 d 07 m 541 s.
RX Drake R8B, SW8
BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A.
Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940
GE circa 50's radiogram
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop

"dxAce" wrote in message
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dxAce wrote:

John Plimmer wrote:

OTOH I received RRI Fak Fak also at 2100 utc booming in quite clear
with
excellent ID's on 4790 Khz. According to my theory Fak Fak is
located on a
large bay with its outlook pointing directly to South Africa and
mountains
behind the TX favouring reception in my area. This is also confirmed
by the
fact that the signal is so strong here that it gives the impression
that the
TX power is much more than the listed 1 Kw, but bear in mind that it
is not
received in the U.S. at all.

Why would you say Fak Fak is not received in the U.S. at all? It is
reported
here from time to time.

In fact, I believe it is them that I have here at 1200 on 4789.95 or so.

That should have been 1100.



I don't think the mountains have a lot to do with it.

dxAce

John Plimmer wrote:

Steve, I congratulate you on getting RRI Fak Fak - I'm sure it doesn't come
in everyday in Holland Michigan.
Okay, I have not seen Fak Fak logged recently in the U.S. but have seen
several logs for RRI Serui, hence my comment.
Also, Guy Atkins in Puyallup, an extremely experienced DXer did not log Fak
Fak alongside his Serui log, although he was sure to have tried for it.

I'm not sure whether Guy tried for it or not, Fak Fak was off recently it seems
for a few weeks, but it is indeed regularly receivable here.

We'll have to continue to disagree about the mountains.

dxAce
Michigan
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

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