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Old September 16th 04, 07:26 PM
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Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
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Dwight Stewart wrote:

"-=jd=-" wrote:

Convincing anyone is none of my concern,
but I do reserve the right to wonder aloud
how a reasonable and prudent person
would ignore the mounting list of indicators
pointing to obvious forgeries. (snip)

Then I trust you won't mind if I reserve the right to wonder aloud why

you
are so determined to establish, and publically declare, these documents

to
be forgeries.


Possibly because they are fake?


And possibly because your sound machine is a diversion from the real issues
of this election.


The diversion was started by CBS when they aired the story.

The reason it's continued is stonewalling by CBS.
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Old September 16th 04, 07:39 PM
Gandalf Grey
 
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"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Dwight Stewart wrote:

"-=jd=-" wrote:

Convincing anyone is none of my concern,
but I do reserve the right to wonder aloud
how a reasonable and prudent person
would ignore the mounting list of indicators
pointing to obvious forgeries. (snip)

Then I trust you won't mind if I reserve the right to wonder aloud

why
you
are so determined to establish, and publically declare, these

documents
to
be forgeries.


Possibly because they are fake?


And possibly because your sound machine is a diversion from the real

issues
of this election.


The diversion was started by CBS when they aired the story.


Not at all. The FACTS about Bush's missing service time and his dodging, IS
ALREADY KNOWN. The CBS report if anything was only more confirmation of
WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. Bush deserted his post and his daddy got him out with
an honorable discharge.


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Old September 16th 04, 09:06 PM
Mark S. Holden
 
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Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Dwight Stewart wrote:

"-=jd=-" wrote:

Convincing anyone is none of my concern,
but I do reserve the right to wonder aloud
how a reasonable and prudent person
would ignore the mounting list of indicators
pointing to obvious forgeries. (snip)

Then I trust you won't mind if I reserve the right to wonder aloud

why
you
are so determined to establish, and publically declare, these

documents
to
be forgeries.


Possibly because they are fake?

And possibly because your sound machine is a diversion from the real

issues
of this election.


The diversion was started by CBS when they aired the story.


Not at all. The FACTS about Bush's missing service time and his dodging, IS
ALREADY KNOWN. The CBS report if anything was only more confirmation of
WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. Bush deserted his post and his daddy got him out with
an honorable discharge.


Sorry, but I don't see how your response ties in with my last message.

But if they are facts that are already known, how will forged documents confirm them?

As a reminder, you said:

And possibly because your sound machine is a diversion from the real issues
of this election.


I pointed out this was started when CBS aired the story.

If they hadn't dug up 30+ year old allegations and used what appear to be forged documents to create a story, we'd be discussing something else.
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Old September 16th 04, 10:58 PM
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"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Dwight Stewart wrote:

"-=jd=-" wrote:

Convincing anyone is none of my concern,
but I do reserve the right to wonder aloud
how a reasonable and prudent person
would ignore the mounting list of indicators
pointing to obvious forgeries. (snip)

Then I trust you won't mind if I reserve the right to wonder

aloud
why
you
are so determined to establish, and publically declare, these

documents
to
be forgeries.


Possibly because they are fake?

And possibly because your sound machine is a diversion from the real

issues
of this election.

The diversion was started by CBS when they aired the story.


Not at all. The FACTS about Bush's missing service time and his

dodging, IS
ALREADY KNOWN. The CBS report if anything was only more confirmation of
WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. Bush deserted his post and his daddy got him out

with
an honorable discharge.


Sorry, but I don't see how your response ties in with my last message.


Well, it's probably a little late in life for me to teach you how to think.


But if they are facts that are already known, how will forged documents

confirm them?

They don't need to be confirmed. The lapses are already there. The
testimomy of witinesses is already there. CBS wasn't really showing anyone
anything knew. Plus, Killian's secretary has come forward and testified
that the memos, fake or not, completely support how Killian felt about Bush.


As a reminder, you said:

And possibly because your sound machine is a diversion from the real

issues
of this election.


I pointed out this was started when CBS aired the story.

If they hadn't dug up 30+ year old allegations and used what appear to be

forged documents to create a story, we'd be discussing something else.

I doubt it.


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Old September 16th 04, 11:03 PM
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Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Dwight Stewart wrote:

"-=jd=-" wrote:

Convincing anyone is none of my concern,
but I do reserve the right to wonder aloud
how a reasonable and prudent person
would ignore the mounting list of indicators
pointing to obvious forgeries. (snip)

Then I trust you won't mind if I reserve the right to wonder

aloud
why
you
are so determined to establish, and publically declare, these
documents
to
be forgeries.


Possibly because they are fake?

And possibly because your sound machine is a diversion from the real
issues
of this election.

The diversion was started by CBS when they aired the story.

Not at all. The FACTS about Bush's missing service time and his

dodging, IS
ALREADY KNOWN. The CBS report if anything was only more confirmation of
WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. Bush deserted his post and his daddy got him out

with
an honorable discharge.


Sorry, but I don't see how your response ties in with my last message.


Well, it's probably a little late in life for me to teach you how to think.


But if they are facts that are already known, how will forged documents

confirm them?

They don't need to be confirmed. The lapses are already there. The
testimomy of witinesses is already there. CBS wasn't really showing anyone
anything knew. Plus, Killian's secretary has come forward and testified
that the memos, fake or not, completely support how Killian felt about Bush.


Ever hear of 'hearsay'? It's pretty hard for a dead guy to come back and dispute
what anyone says about how he felt or what he did.

How convenient for both you, Dan Rather and See'BS' News.

dxAce




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Old September 16th 04, 11:50 PM
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"dxAce" wrote in message
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Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Dwight Stewart wrote:

"-=jd=-" wrote:

Convincing anyone is none of my concern,
but I do reserve the right to wonder aloud
how a reasonable and prudent person
would ignore the mounting list of indicators
pointing to obvious forgeries. (snip)

Then I trust you won't mind if I reserve the right to

wonder
aloud
why
you
are so determined to establish, and publically declare,

these
documents
to
be forgeries.


Possibly because they are fake?

And possibly because your sound machine is a diversion from the

real
issues
of this election.

The diversion was started by CBS when they aired the story.

Not at all. The FACTS about Bush's missing service time and his

dodging, IS
ALREADY KNOWN. The CBS report if anything was only more

confirmation of
WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. Bush deserted his post and his daddy got him

out
with
an honorable discharge.

Sorry, but I don't see how your response ties in with my last message.


Well, it's probably a little late in life for me to teach you how to

think.


But if they are facts that are already known, how will forged

documents
confirm them?

They don't need to be confirmed. The lapses are already there. The
testimomy of witinesses is already there. CBS wasn't really showing

anyone
anything knew. Plus, Killian's secretary has come forward and testified
that the memos, fake or not, completely support how Killian felt about

Bush.

Ever hear of 'hearsay'?


Yeah. It's what the Smearboat Vets for Lies use in their Bushfront
mudslinging campaign against Kerry.


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Old September 17th 04, 12:22 AM
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= = = "Gandalf Grey" wrote in message
= = = om...
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Gandalf Grey wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Dwight Stewart wrote:

"-=jd=-" wrote:

Convincing anyone is none of my concern,
but I do reserve the right to wonder aloud
how a reasonable and prudent person
would ignore the mounting list of indicators
pointing to obvious forgeries. (snip)

Then I trust you won't mind if I reserve the right to wonder aloud

why
you
are so determined to establish, and publically declare, these

documents
to
be forgeries.


Possibly because they are fake?

And possibly because your sound machine is a diversion from the real

issues
of this election.


The diversion was started by CBS when they aired the story.


Not at all. The FACTS about Bush's missing service time and his dodging, IS
ALREADY KNOWN. The CBS report if anything was only more confirmation of
WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. Bush deserted his post and his daddy got him out with
an honorable discharge.


GG,

The 'issue' for "Informed Voters" is not President George "W"
Bush's Texas National Guard Service Record, or Senator John 'ff'
Kerry's Vietnam Service Record. Both of which occurred more that
Thirty Years (30 Yrs) ago.

The 'issue' for "Informed Voters" is President George "W" Bush's
record of accomplishments during his Four Years (4 Yrs) as the US
President; contrasted with Senator John 'ff' Kerry's of doing
nothing during his Twenty Years (20 Yrs) in the US Senate.

ssi ~ RHF
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