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Michael September 16th 04 04:40 PM


"Juan Gonzalez" wrote in message
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"Michael" wrote in
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As far as the PL-550 goes.... I think it is the least selective of
the three. It doesn't have glairing problems with this, but it
doesn't cut it as well as the 7600gr and the KA-1102.


How good is the PL-550 on MW?


Hiya.... I dont think the PL-550 is a good MW radio. For MW I prefer my
GE-SR III best for sure. Because it has analog tuning it has almost no
internal noise. As you would expect with such a large speaker, the audio
quality is also very good. It also has a nice long internal ferite bar
antenna, so its great for DX'ing. The only draw back is that the analog
tuning dial is not at all accurate. My next favorite radio for MW is the
KA-1102. It was a really nice surprise to find out what a great MW radio
that it is. I often use it to listen to WBT in Charlotte and WTAM in
Cleveland and WBAL in Maryland and others too. It is not as quite as the
GE-SR III, but it does a very nice job of it for sure.

I have just started to test the 7600gr out on MW. From what I have read, it
is a better performer for MW DX'ing then the KA-1102. I would imagine that
you could get more out of the 7600gr just going on the fact that it has
"real" ssb selectable sb capabilities that you can use when you are tuned in
the mw range. That alone would tell me I have a better chance of resolving
some tuff MW DX with the 7600gr then with the KA-1102. The KA-1102 has ssb
capabilities, but they dont work when tuned to mw, and even if it did, it
would hardly matter. The KA-1102 doesn't have "real" ssb selectable sb.
You cant choose usb or lsb. Along with that, using ecss on the KA-1102 is
almost useless because of the flutter you always get when you try to use
ecss. So... As of right now I can't say any thyting about the 7600gr for
MW. I need to test it out some more.

So... The PL-550 is not a good MW radio as compared to the other radios
that I own. The PL-550 is not the most sensitive, selective or quite when
tuned to MW. Nor does it have any ssb capabilities. I dont mind so much
though because I purchased it to use as a sw radio and I think it is very
good for sw. When you consider its price in comparison with the YB-400 and
7600GR, you really have to say that it was one of the best value for dollar
deals to come along in quite a while.

Michael



Juan Gonzalez September 16th 04 11:14 PM

"Michael" wrote in
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I have just started to test the 7600gr out on MW. From what I have
read, it is a better performer for MW DX'ing then the KA-1102. I
would imagine that you could get more out of the 7600gr just going on
the fact that it has "real" ssb selectable sb capabilities that you
can use when you are tuned in the mw range. That alone would tell me
I have a better chance of resolving some tuff MW DX with the 7600gr
then with the KA-1102. The KA-1102 has ssb capabilities, but they dont
work when tuned to mw, and even if it did, it would hardly matter.
The KA-1102 doesn't have "real" ssb selectable sb. You cant choose usb
or lsb. Along with that, using ecss on the KA-1102 is almost useless
because of the flutter you always get when you try to use ecss.
So... As of right now I can't say any thyting about the 7600gr for MW.
I need to test it out some more.


What you say about the Sony SSB on MW is exactly right. It's something the
Kaito can't do. If you like the Kaito for MW you will love the Sony.

Michael Bryant September 17th 04 01:35 AM

From: Juan Gonzalez

What you say about the Sony SSB on MW is exactly right. It's something the
Kaito can't do. If you like the Kaito for MW you will love the Sony.


My Degen 1103 beats my 7600G hands down on sensitivity in the SW bands, but the
7600G and a Radio Shack AM loop are hard to beat on MW. The 7600G is better
than the 1102 on ultimate selectivity possible with selectable sideband. The
better filters in the 1103 seem to allow the increased senstivity of the 1103
to nudge slightly ahead of my 7600G in overall SW AM reception. The SSB on
either the 1102 or 1103 is nowhere as stable as the 7600G.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A,
Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll,
Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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Telamon September 17th 04 05:38 AM

In article ,
ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote:

From: Juan Gonzalez


What you say about the Sony SSB on MW is exactly right. It's
something the Kaito can't do. If you like the Kaito for MW you will
love the Sony.


My Degen 1103 beats my 7600G hands down on sensitivity in the SW
bands, but the 7600G and a Radio Shack AM loop are hard to beat on
MW. The 7600G is better than the 1102 on ultimate selectivity
possible with selectable sideband. The better filters in the 1103
seem to allow the increased senstivity of the 1103 to nudge slightly
ahead of my 7600G in overall SW AM reception. The SSB on either the
1102 or 1103 is nowhere as stable as the 7600G.


Yeah but that your Degen 1103 beating your 7600G.

What about someone else's real radios.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Richard Fry September 23rd 04 01:36 PM

"Juan Gonzalez" wrote
There isn't any Meter Band indicator on the Sony
or button to quickly jump from one meter band
to the next.

________________

It is possible to jump from one meter band to a higher or lower one by
holding the "AM Band" button down while punching the + or - keys at the ends
of the "Manual Tune" row of buttons. See #3 on page 20 of the instruction
book for a better explanation.

RF

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Juan Gonzalez September 23rd 04 11:27 PM

"Richard Fry" wrote in
:

"Juan Gonzalez" wrote
There isn't any Meter Band indicator on the Sony
or button to quickly jump from one meter band
to the next.

________________

It is possible to jump from one meter band to a higher or lower one by
holding the "AM Band" button down while punching the + or - keys at
the ends of the "Manual Tune" row of buttons. See #3 on page 20 of
the instruction book for a better explanation.


This would be good if it actually worked. I saw that on page 20. I hold the
am button and hit the arrow keys and nothing happens.

Richard Fry September 24th 04 12:18 PM

"Juan Gonzalez" wrote
This would be good if it actually worked. I saw that
on page 20. I hold the am button and hit the arrow
keys and nothing happens.

______________

Works on mine. Are you sure you're pressing on the outer pair of arrow
keys? They have the symbols ==| and |== on them. The center button of
that group is a single, rocker type with - and + on its ends, but that won't
do it.



Al Arduengo September 24th 04 05:48 PM

"Richard Fry" writes:

"Juan Gonzalez" wrote
This would be good if it actually worked. I saw that
on page 20. I hold the am button and hit the arrow
keys and nothing happens.

______________

Works on mine. Are you sure you're pressing on the outer pair of arrow
keys? They have the symbols ==| and |== on them. The center button of
that group is a single, rocker type with - and + on its ends, but that won't
do it.


And make sure you press and hold the "AM Band" button, *not* the FM/AM button while pressing the outer arrow keys.

Juan Gonzalez September 25th 04 06:40 AM

Al Arduengo
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"Richard Fry" writes:

"Juan Gonzalez" wrote
This would be good if it actually worked. I saw that
on page 20. I hold the am button and hit the arrow
keys and nothing happens.

______________

Works on mine. Are you sure you're pressing on the outer pair of
arrow keys? They have the symbols ==| and |== on them. The
center button of that group is a single, rocker type with - and + on
its ends, but that won't do it.


And make sure you press and hold the "AM Band" button, *not* the FM/AM
button while pressing the outer arrow keys.


You are right. I figured it out moments after posting. Thanks for the
info. Makes the radio alot nicer to use.

KEN8038 September 25th 04 10:29 PM

The major problem with the 7600GR that the 7600G did not have is
muting when you change frequencies, which slows you down to one poke
a second if you scan manually that way.


Actually, you CAN scan without muting. Just press the up or down 1kz instead of
the 5kz, and keep it pressed. It scans just like a manual dial scan. When you
hear something, just lift your finger.

I did not discover this, someone posted it in this NG about 2 years ago, and I
was amazed that 1) I never knew this, and 2) the manual doesn't say anything
about it.

---Ken


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