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Should I Buy Another Radio??
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I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky |
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I see. I thought the R8A and B were almost similar in the more important features? I didn't want to drop a bundle on a radio and, I rarely see R8B's for sale cheap if I see them at all. I can pick up on R8A for like $500. I don't even know if that's a good price. I figured it's not worth more then 4 bills to me really. A friend told told me there is not a heck of a lot of difference between the NRD-525 and the Drake. But everyone has their own opinion and it can't work for everyone. That's why I'm asking. Thanks "Dan" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 06:07:39 -0400, Lucky wrote: Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? I wouldn't waste money on an R8 or R8A. I have an R8 and it's not that great. The R8B is the one you want. Dan |
Lucky wrote:
Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky Hi It would be easier for people to give good advice if they knew what you were hoping to accomplish. I had an original R8. It was a good radio, and it did everything pretty well. As Dan has mentioned, the R8b has the better sync detector. Sideband selectable sync is nice - I use it all the time on my Harris. The original one had the nicer tuning knob. Not a performance feature, but hey, you'll probably spend a lot of time using it. The Drakes have nice audio - particularly if you use a good external speaker, so you'd probably enjoy one for program listening. Personally, I wouldn't buy a Grundig Sat 800. While it's got a circuit designed by Drake, they're made in China, and the build quality doesn't impress me. They're also incredibly large. They remind me of the stereos they used to sell in Woolworths back in the 70's. Speaker cabinets would be 5 feet tall, 2 feet wide, and weigh close to 10 pounds. |
Lucky wrote ...
Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. It's radio .. no you don't need it. Buy it. Have it. Enjoy it. You can't have too many radios. |
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I'm pretty new to SW radio. Not even a year into the hobby. I'm getting more and more into looking around for obscure SSB stations and weak muddy stations. All in all I want to own the best within price constraints so I know I'm working with good equipment and if I can't get a certain staion in it's my own fault and/or my antenna. I think the NRD-525 is pretty good as well as the r-5000 really. I just wondered if I bought the Drake and if I were in dark, would I notice anything different about the Drake. But you guys have given me the main reasons so far. "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky Hi It would be easier for people to give good advice if they knew what you were hoping to accomplish. I had an original R8. It was a good radio, and it did everything pretty well. As Dan has mentioned, the R8b has the better sync detector. Sideband selectable sync is nice - I use it all the time on my Harris. The original one had the nicer tuning knob. Not a performance feature, but hey, you'll probably spend a lot of time using it. The Drakes have nice audio - particularly if you use a good external speaker, so you'd probably enjoy one for program listening. Personally, I wouldn't buy a Grundig Sat 800. While it's got a circuit designed by Drake, they're made in China, and the build quality doesn't impress me. They're also incredibly large. They remind me of the stereos they used to sell in Woolworths back in the 70's. Speaker cabinets would be 5 feet tall, 2 feet wide, and weigh close to 10 pounds. |
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= = = . .. Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky LUCKY, Keep #1, #4 and #6. Sell #2, #3, and #5. Buy a new Drake R8"B" jm2cw ~ RHF .. |
Lucky wrote:
Hi I'm pretty new to SW radio. Not even a year into the hobby. I'm getting more and more into looking around for obscure SSB stations and weak muddy stations. All in all I want to own the best within price constraints so I know I'm working with good equipment and if I can't get a certain staion in it's my own fault and/or my antenna. I think the NRD-525 is pretty good as well as the r-5000 really. I just wondered if I bought the Drake and if I were in dark, would I notice anything different about the Drake. But you guys have given me the main reasons so far. Well, for what you're looking to do, I think I'd consider something other than the Drake. Here's the radio I enjoy the most: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4673&item=57204600 58&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW I know nothing about the seller, or the condition of his radio. It's a lifestyle choice - it's probably a little larger than the Sat 800, and weighs about 50 pounds. It has no memories - it doesn't even use a tuning knob. But it's great at digging stuff out of the mud and making it sound good. I've owned newer and more expensive military radios, but never a better performer, or one that was easier on the ears. It has sideband selectable sync detection, (They call it AFC) and a fancy AGC circuit that doesn't get easily confused. My other suggestion is smaller, more expensive, has convenience features and if you put in the right filters can sound almost as good - the AOR AR7030+ You'll pay about $1000 for a used one. I have one I set up as a "transportable" for camping trips and vacations. But for home use, if I could only have one, I'd go with a 550 - even if it was more expensive than the 7030. (and it shouldn't be) You might also consider an Icom R75. I've never tried one. Folks say it's a great radio, but to get them to work the way they're supposed to, you need to modify them with a couple dollars worth of parts. The idea people who aren't engineers can greatly improve a radio for pocket change is enough to keep me away. I'd revise my feelings if Icom incorporated the most common mods in the next batch they made. If you're interested in radios, a good book to get is "Shortwave Receivers Past and Present" by Fred Osterman. Universal Radio sells it. It has basic information and specs for hundreds of radios. But it's overdue for an update - many of the current model tabletops aren't in it. Good luck with your hunt, and if you end up with a 550, feel free to email me for tips on how to use the AFC and coherent AGC. It's actually quite easy, but I can save you an hour or two of guessing. |
Sell my Sears mint FRG-7? Never. I'll go down with thr ship first :)
"RHF" wrote in message om... = = = Lucky wrote in message = = = . .. Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky LUCKY, Keep #1, #4 and #6. Sell #2, #3, and #5. Buy a new Drake R8"B" jm2cw ~ RHF . |
Nice looking the 550. If it doesn't use a tuning knob, what is it scan only
or direct entry? Are they quality made? Never heard of Harris sorry to say. I wish I could buy them all. I appreciate the offer Mark, thanks. I switch around radios like every 2-3 weeks but this new remote for the R-5000 really is nice. Hard to put it down! I'm going to do some research on it. "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: Hi I'm pretty new to SW radio. Not even a year into the hobby. I'm getting more and more into looking around for obscure SSB stations and weak muddy stations. All in all I want to own the best within price constraints so I know I'm working with good equipment and if I can't get a certain staion in it's my own fault and/or my antenna. I think the NRD-525 is pretty good as well as the r-5000 really. I just wondered if I bought the Drake and if I were in dark, would I notice anything different about the Drake. But you guys have given me the main reasons so far. Well, for what you're looking to do, I think I'd consider something other than the Drake. Here's the radio I enjoy the most: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4673&item=57204600 58&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW I know nothing about the seller, or the condition of his radio. It's a lifestyle choice - it's probably a little larger than the Sat 800, and weighs about 50 pounds. It has no memories - it doesn't even use a tuning knob. But it's great at digging stuff out of the mud and making it sound good. I've owned newer and more expensive military radios, but never a better performer, or one that was easier on the ears. It has sideband selectable sync detection, (They call it AFC) and a fancy AGC circuit that doesn't get easily confused. My other suggestion is smaller, more expensive, has convenience features and if you put in the right filters can sound almost as good - the AOR AR7030+ You'll pay about $1000 for a used one. I have one I set up as a "transportable" for camping trips and vacations. But for home use, if I could only have one, I'd go with a 550 - even if it was more expensive than the 7030. (and it shouldn't be) You might also consider an Icom R75. I've never tried one. Folks say it's a great radio, but to get them to work the way they're supposed to, you need to modify them with a couple dollars worth of parts. The idea people who aren't engineers can greatly improve a radio for pocket change is enough to keep me away. I'd revise my feelings if Icom incorporated the most common mods in the next batch they made. If you're interested in radios, a good book to get is "Shortwave Receivers Past and Present" by Fred Osterman. Universal Radio sells it. It has basic information and specs for hundreds of radios. But it's overdue for an update - many of the current model tabletops aren't in it. Good luck with your hunt, and if you end up with a 550, feel free to email me for tips on how to use the AFC and coherent AGC. It's actually quite easy, but I can save you an hour or two of guessing. |
Lucky wrote:
Nice looking the 550. If it doesn't use a tuning knob, what is it scan only or direct entry? That one has the RF-583 tuning option. It has six up/down paddle switches with a carry borrow feature. You push the paddle up to increase the digit it's under, and down to decrease it. For scanning, you'd hold the far right one (or the next to last one) up or down as you listen. It has a "fast" button so you can scan faster. I can go from one frequency to another known frequency very quickly. I don't like the ones without the 583 option. They use 10 position slide switches for tuning. Pretty clunky. Fortunately, most have the 583. Are they quality made? Never heard of Harris sorry to say. I wish I could buy them all. Most Harris radios are built for the government. They're built like tanks. The outer cabinet is roughly 1/8" aluminum, and most of the modules inside are individually shielded in aluminum that's about 1/16" thick. The car I'd compare it to would be an early 80's Rolls Royce. They are very reliable. I appreciate the offer Mark, thanks. I switch around radios like every 2-3 weeks but this new remote for the R-5000 really is nice. Hard to put it down! I'm going to do some research on it. "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: Hi I'm pretty new to SW radio. Not even a year into the hobby. I'm getting more and more into looking around for obscure SSB stations and weak muddy stations. All in all I want to own the best within price constraints so I know I'm working with good equipment and if I can't get a certain staion in it's my own fault and/or my antenna. I think the NRD-525 is pretty good as well as the r-5000 really. I just wondered if I bought the Drake and if I were in dark, would I notice anything different about the Drake. But you guys have given me the main reasons so far. Well, for what you're looking to do, I think I'd consider something other than the Drake. Here's the radio I enjoy the most: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4673&item=57204600 58&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW I know nothing about the seller, or the condition of his radio. It's a lifestyle choice - it's probably a little larger than the Sat 800, and weighs about 50 pounds. It has no memories - it doesn't even use a tuning knob. But it's great at digging stuff out of the mud and making it sound good. I've owned newer and more expensive military radios, but never a better performer, or one that was easier on the ears. It has sideband selectable sync detection, (They call it AFC) and a fancy AGC circuit that doesn't get easily confused. My other suggestion is smaller, more expensive, has convenience features and if you put in the right filters can sound almost as good - the AOR AR7030+ You'll pay about $1000 for a used one. I have one I set up as a "transportable" for camping trips and vacations. But for home use, if I could only have one, I'd go with a 550 - even if it was more expensive than the 7030. (and it shouldn't be) You might also consider an Icom R75. I've never tried one. Folks say it's a great radio, but to get them to work the way they're supposed to, you need to modify them with a couple dollars worth of parts. The idea people who aren't engineers can greatly improve a radio for pocket change is enough to keep me away. I'd revise my feelings if Icom incorporated the most common mods in the next batch they made. If you're interested in radios, a good book to get is "Shortwave Receivers Past and Present" by Fred Osterman. Universal Radio sells it. It has basic information and specs for hundreds of radios. But it's overdue for an update - many of the current model tabletops aren't in it. Good luck with your hunt, and if you end up with a 550, feel free to email me for tips on how to use the AFC and coherent AGC. It's actually quite easy, but I can save you an hour or two of guessing. |
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"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: Nice looking the 550. If it doesn't use a tuning knob, what is it scan only or direct entry? That one has the RF-583 tuning option. It has six up/down paddle switches with a carry borrow feature. You push the paddle up to increase the digit it's under, and down to decrease it. For scanning, you'd hold the far right one (or the next to last one) up or down as you listen. It has a "fast" button so you can scan faster. I can go from one frequency to another known frequency very quickly. I don't like the ones without the 583 option. They use 10 position slide switches for tuning. Pretty clunky. Fortunately, most have the 583. Are they quality made? Never heard of Harris sorry to say. I wish I could buy them all. Most Harris radios are built for the government. They're built like tanks. The outer cabinet is roughly 1/8" aluminum, and most of the modules inside are individually shielded in aluminum that's about 1/16" thick. The car I'd compare it to would be an early 80's Rolls Royce. They are very reliable. I appreciate the offer Mark, thanks. I switch around radios like every 2-3 weeks but this new remote for the R-5000 really is nice. Hard to put it down! I'm going to do some research on it. "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: Hi I'm pretty new to SW radio. Not even a year into the hobby. I'm getting more and more into looking around for obscure SSB stations and weak muddy stations. All in all I want to own the best within price constraints so I know I'm working with good equipment and if I can't get a certain staion in it's my own fault and/or my antenna. I think the NRD-525 is pretty good as well as the r-5000 really. I just wondered if I bought the Drake and if I were in dark, would I notice anything different about the Drake. But you guys have given me the main reasons so far. Well, for what you're looking to do, I think I'd consider something other than the Drake. Here's the radio I enjoy the most: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4673&item=57204600 58&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW I know nothing about the seller, or the condition of his radio. It's a lifestyle choice - it's probably a little larger than the Sat 800, and weighs about 50 pounds. It has no memories - it doesn't even use a tuning knob. But it's great at digging stuff out of the mud and making it sound good. I've owned newer and more expensive military radios, but never a better performer, or one that was easier on the ears. It has sideband selectable sync detection, (They call it AFC) and a fancy AGC circuit that doesn't get easily confused. My other suggestion is smaller, more expensive, has convenience features and if you put in the right filters can sound almost as good - the AOR AR7030+ You'll pay about $1000 for a used one. I have one I set up as a "transportable" for camping trips and vacations. But for home use, if I could only have one, I'd go with a 550 - even if it was more expensive than the 7030. (and it shouldn't be) You might also consider an Icom R75. I've never tried one. Folks say it's a great radio, but to get them to work the way they're supposed to, you need to modify them with a couple dollars worth of parts. The idea people who aren't engineers can greatly improve a radio for pocket change is enough to keep me away. I'd revise my feelings if Icom incorporated the most common mods in the next batch they made. If you're interested in radios, a good book to get is "Shortwave Receivers Past and Present" by Fred Osterman. Universal Radio sells it. It has basic information and specs for hundreds of radios. But it's overdue for an update - many of the current model tabletops aren't in it. Good luck with your hunt, and if you end up with a 550, feel free to me for tips on how to use the AFC and coherent AGC. It's actually quite easy, but I can save you an hour or two of guessing. Hi Mark! How does the Harris 550 perform on MW BCB? Is it better than a Drake R8/8A/8B ? Thanks, Margaret |
"Lucky" wrote in message ... Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky Hiya, Lucky.... I don't know if you want your next new radio to be ideal for program listening, DX'ing, utility or all three :-) You already have the NRD-525 and the R-5000. I have used the R-5000 and I can say as you can that it is a GREAT radio. I like it quite a bit. I have also used my friends R8A and his R8B. I have read posts that say the R-5000 sounds as good as the R-5000 for program listening, but I dont think so. I think the R-5000 sounds very good, and I think it is a very versatile radio, but I still dont think it sounds as good as the R8A. As for the R8B... When you are program listening and have conditions of fade and or strong adjacent signals, I have NEVER heard anything deal with it as good as the R8B. It keeps it nice and steady and the ssb selectable am sync allows you to listen to a signal that may be getting splashed from above or below without having to put up with the muffled sound that you get by going to a narrow filter setting. So... If you want the "King" for program listening, I think the R8B will beat every radio you have. Now... If you want to do some serious DX'ing... I may be able to offer a suggestion.... Currently, I use an R-75 with all the Kiwa mods... I have found it to be good for both program listening and for DX'ing. For DX'ing, I almost always use the R-75 in ssb mode. If found it to be great for doing that. I think it is better for DX'ing then the R8 or the R8A and R8B. With the Kiwa mods, it is also respectable as a radio for program listening. Not as good as the R8 series for program listening, but it is adequate. The one amazing feature of the R-75 given its good performance and features... The Price... I got mine brand new with the free DSP module for just under $500.00. But.... As of the past few months, I have really been interested in getting a new true DSP rig for DX'ing. One of the first rigs I thought of was the NRD-545. After some reading, advice and research, I have come to a radio I didn't even know existed. I have not yet used it, but everything I have read and heard shows that it would be exactly what I would hope for as far as DX'ing performance.... It is the ICOM IC-746Pro. It seems to be a primeDSP rig for DX'ing. I never would have thought to look at transceivers as I am not a ham, but I have to admit, it looks to be the direction I want to go in. I'm probably going to buy one soon. If I do get one, I'll probably also study to get a ham ticket, being that it also has a transmitter. It might be fun. Also.. I wouldn't buy a used radio, but I have seen used 746Pro's selling for just under $1,000 bucks because there are serious defects in the transmitter section. No problem there, though, if you only want it for receiving. It would be a bargain to have a receiver like that for under $1,000. So.... For top quality program listening... The R8B.... For non DSP DX'ing, The R-75. For DSP SUPER DX'ing, The 746Pro. For best over all versatility, the R8B. For best value for dollar... R-75. Hope that helps -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt wrote:
Hi Mark! How does the Harris 550 perform on MW BCB? Is it better than a Drake R8/8A/8B ? Thanks, Margaret I'm not really interested in MW Dx, so I'm not the best person to answer this question. There is some attenuation on the MW frequencies - If you'd like I can look up how much and what frequency it starts at when I get home. Otherwise, the AFC and coherent AGC work on MW. Coherent AGC takes the AGC reading through a 500hz filter regardless of what filter you're listening through. It also has 126 or 130db of dynamic range. (Haven't read the manual in a couple years.) I almost always listen in sideband mode because the AFC and Coherent AGC don't work in other modes. Coherent AGC won't work without AFC. For RTTY decoding, I got better results with the AFC turned off. One of the things I like about the Harris is the filters are kind of wide - but they have a good shape factor, so audio quality is good, but selectivity has never been a problem. On AM & CW you can choose between 500, 6khz and if you enjoy listening to hets in the background, 16khz. On Sideband it's always 3.2khz. The 550 comes equipped for ISB reception too. (Both sidebands with one coming through the internal speaker, and the other on terminals on the rear.) Let me know if you'd like me to check specs for MW attenuation or dynamic range. Regards, Mark |
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt wrote: Hi Mark! How does the Harris 550 perform on MW BCB? Is it better than a Drake R8/8A/8B ? Thanks, Margaret I'm not really interested in MW Dx, so I'm not the best person to answer this question. There is some attenuation on the MW frequencies - If you'd like I can look up how much and what frequency it starts at when I get home. Otherwise, the AFC and coherent AGC work on MW. Coherent AGC takes the AGC reading through a 500hz filter regardless of what filter you're listening through. It also has 126 or 130db of dynamic range. (Haven't read the manual in a couple years.) I almost always listen in sideband mode because the AFC and Coherent AGC don't work in other modes. Coherent AGC won't work without AFC. For RTTY decoding, I got better results with the AFC turned off. One of the things I like about the Harris is the filters are kind of wide - but they have a good shape factor, so audio quality is good, but selectivity has never been a problem. On AM & CW you can choose between 500, 6khz and if you enjoy listening to hets in the background, 16khz. On Sideband it's always 3.2khz. The 550 comes equipped for ISB reception too. (Both sidebands with one coming through the internal speaker, and the other on terminals on the rear.) Let me know if you'd like me to check specs for MW attenuation or dynamic range. Regards, Mark That would be very kind of you, Mark. I'm just thrilled by your desription of its audio quality. Exactly what I want. I wonder if someone could remove the MW attenuation. Thanks, Margaret |
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I'd say they are probably as good as the Drake series. While we're discussing questions on the Harris 550 why don't you tell us which one you think *might* come nearer surviving an EMP attack! ;-) Al ============ Mark S. Holden wrote: Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt wrote: Hi Mark! How does the Harris 550 perform on MW BCB? Is it better than a Drake R8/8A/8B ? Thanks, Margaret I'm not really interested in MW Dx, so I'm not the best person to answer this question. |
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Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt wrote: Hi Mark! How does the Harris 550 perform on MW BCB? Is it better than a Drake R8/8A/8B ? Thanks, Margaret I'm not really interested in MW Dx, so I'm not the best person to answer this question. There is some attenuation on the MW frequencies - If you'd like I can look up how much and what frequency it starts at when I get home. Otherwise, the AFC and coherent AGC work on MW. Coherent AGC takes the AGC reading through a 500hz filter regardless of what filter you're listening through. It also has 126 or 130db of dynamic range. (Haven't read the manual in a couple years.) I almost always listen in sideband mode because the AFC and Coherent AGC don't work in other modes. Coherent AGC won't work without AFC. For RTTY decoding, I got better results with the AFC turned off. One of the things I like about the Harris is the filters are kind of wide - but they have a good shape factor, so audio quality is good, but selectivity has never been a problem. On AM & CW you can choose between 500, 6khz and if you enjoy listening to hets in the background, 16khz. On Sideband it's always 3.2khz. The 550 comes equipped for ISB reception too. (Both sidebands with one coming through the internal speaker, and the other on terminals on the rear.) Let me know if you'd like me to check specs for MW attenuation or dynamic range. Regards, Mark That would be very kind of you, Mark. I'm just thrilled by your desription of its audio quality. Exactly what I want. I wonder if someone could remove the MW attenuation. Thanks, Margaret Hi It is the sort of radio you can listen to for hours at a time without listener fatigue. The manual indicates sensitivity is 1.5uv max for Am, and .35uv max for sideband. (at 10db (s+n)/n ) It just says sensitivity is reduced below 1.5mhz The radio has half octave filters on the input - a very quick Look at the schematic leads me to feel you could adjust or eliminate the attenuation by tweaking the value of a 470 ohm resistor. Dynamic range is rated at 125db. Near as I can tell, two of the keys to good audio quality are dynamic range, and wide filters with steep skirts. My AOR ar7030+ also has good dynamic range, and the sideband filter I use with it is a 3.24khz crystal filter intended for a Racal 6790/gm. It has a shape factor of 1:1.33 The radio reads it as 2.9khz. |
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message My advice is to keep all of your radios. And enjoy them. Or give one to you since you don't have one. LOL!!!! B.H. |
Brian Hill wrote: "Michael Bryant" wrote in message My advice is to keep all of your radios. And enjoy them. Or give one to you since you don't have one. LOL!!!! I guess I could try and contact MWB at Louisville Technical Institute and try to set up a time when I could drive down there and meet him, give him some complimentary Cheeto's, meet his 'family', and check out his radios. dxAce |
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Brian Hill wrote: "Michael Bryant" wrote in message My advice is to keep all of your radios. And enjoy them. Or give one to you since you don't have one. LOL!!!! I guess I could try and contact MWB at Louisville Technical Institute and try to set up a time when I could drive down there and meet him, give him some complimentary Cheeto's, meet his 'family', and check out his radios. dxAce You better bring a pallet load of Cheeto's Steve. If you need to barrow my truck, let me know ;)) LMFAO B.H. |
Brian Hill wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Brian Hill wrote: "Michael Bryant" wrote in message My advice is to keep all of your radios. And enjoy them. Or give one to you since you don't have one. LOL!!!! I guess I could try and contact MWB at Louisville Technical Institute and try to set up a time when I could drive down there and meet him, give him some complimentary Cheeto's, meet his 'family', and check out his radios. dxAce You better bring a pallet load of Cheeto's Steve. If you need to barrow my truck, let me know ;)) LMFAO By the way, if anyone wants to come by here, see the shack, the antenna's, etc., they are more than welcome. dxAce |
= = = ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ... From: "Lucky" Sell my Sears mint FRG-7? Never. I'll go down with thr ship first :) "RHF" wrote in message . com... = = = Lucky wrote in message = = = . .. Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky LUCKY, Keep #1, #4 and #6. Sell #2, #3, and #5. Buy a new Drake R8"B" jm2cw ~ RHF RHF must be off his meds, again. MWB, Oh so 'sorry' I don't do Meds be they legal or illegal. This must be a self-relective statement based on your personal preferences, disposition and lifestyle. MWB - Have a nice diner and a glass of good wine - Enjoy ! Then sit-back with your Radios and Listen to the World ~ RHF .. .. The DE 1103 is also a "keeper". My advice is to keep all of your radios. And enjoy them. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A, Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nospam" to reply) .. |
= = = ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ... From: "Lucky" Sell my Sears mint FRG-7? Never. I'll go down with thr ship first :) "RHF" wrote in message . com... = = = Lucky wrote in message = = = . .. Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky LUCKY, Keep #1, #4 and #6. Sell #2, #3, and #5. Buy a new Drake R8"B" jm2cw ~ RHF RHF must be off his meds, again. MWB, Oh so 'sorry' I don't do Meds be they legal or illegal. This must be a self-relective statement based on your personal preferences, disposition and lifestyle. MWB - Have a nice diner and a glass of good wine - Enjoy ! Then sit-back with your Radios and Listen to the World ~ RHF .. .. The DE 1103 is also a "keeper". My advice is to keep all of your radios. And enjoy them. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A, Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nospam" to reply) .. |
= = = ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ... From: "Lucky" Sell my Sears mint FRG-7? Never. I'll go down with thr ship first :) "RHF" wrote in message . com... = = = Lucky wrote in message = = = . .. Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky LUCKY, Keep #1, #4 and #6. Sell #2, #3, and #5. Buy a new Drake R8"B" jm2cw ~ RHF RHF must be off his meds, again. MWB, Oh so 'sorry' I don't do Meds; be they legal or illegal. This must be a self-relective statement based on your personal preferences, disposition and lifestyle. MWB - Have a nice diner and a glass of good wine - Enjoy ! Then sit-back with your Radios and Listen to the World ~ RHF .. .. The DE 1103 is also a "keeper". My advice is to keep all of your radios. And enjoy them. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A, Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nospam" to reply) .. |
= = = ospam (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ... From: "Lucky" Sell my Sears mint FRG-7? Never. I'll go down with thr ship first :) "RHF" wrote in message . com... = = = Lucky wrote in message = = = . .. Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky LUCKY, Keep #1, #4 and #6. Sell #2, #3, and #5. Buy a new Drake R8"B" jm2cw ~ RHF RHF must be off his meds, again. MWB, Oh so 'sorry' I don't do Meds; be they legal or illegal. This must be a self-relective statement based on your personal preferences, disposition and lifestyle. MWB - Have a nice diner and a glass of good wine - Enjoy ! Then sit-back with your Radios and Listen to the World ~ RHF .. .. The DE 1103 is also a "keeper". My advice is to keep all of your radios. And enjoy them. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A, Degen 1102, Degen 1103, GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nospam" to reply) .. |
On 16 Sep 2004 06:32:09 -0500, Dan wrote:
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 06:07:39 -0400, Lucky wrote: Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? I wouldn't waste money on an R8 or R8A. I have an R8 and it's not that great. The R8B is the one you want. Dan You can have the best radio around for about $1000US. It's called the 313i WinRadio. Check it out he http://www.winradio.com/home/g313i.htm Absolutely great features and a fantastic performer. Also, you can access your WinRadio from anywhere in the world with the Client/Server option. All you need is a computer that is connected to the Web. Keep it in mind and good luck. |
Michael wrote:
"Lucky" wrote in message ... Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky Hiya, Lucky.... I don't know if you want your next new radio to be ideal for program listening, DX'ing, utility or all three :-) You already have the NRD-525 and the R-5000. I have used the R-5000 and I can say as you can that it is a GREAT radio. I like it quite a bit. I have also used my friends R8A and his R8B. I have read posts that say the R-5000 sounds as good as the R-5000 for program listening, but I dont think so. I think the R-5000 sounds very good, and I think it is a very versatile radio, but I still dont think it sounds as good as the R8A. As for the R8B... When you are program listening and have conditions of fade and or strong adjacent signals, I have NEVER heard anything deal with it as good as the R8B. It keeps it nice and steady and the ssb selectable am sync allows you to listen to a signal that may be getting splashed from above or below without having to put up with the muffled sound that you get by going to a narrow filter setting. So... If you want the "King" for program listening, I think the R8B will beat every radio you have. Now... If you want to do some serious DX'ing... I may be able to offer a suggestion.... Currently, I use an R-75 with all the Kiwa mods... I have found it to be good for both program listening and for DX'ing. For DX'ing, I almost always use the R-75 in ssb mode. If found it to be great for doing that. I think it is better for DX'ing then the R8 or the R8A and R8B. With the Kiwa mods, it is also respectable as a radio for program listening. Not as good as the R8 series for program listening, but it is adequate. The one amazing feature of the R-75 given its good performance and features... The Price... I got mine brand new with the free DSP module for just under $500.00. But.... As of the past few months, I have really been interested in getting a new true DSP rig for DX'ing. One of the first rigs I thought of was the NRD-545. After some reading, advice and research, I have come to a radio I didn't even know existed. I have not yet used it, but everything I have read and heard shows that it would be exactly what I would hope for as far as DX'ing performance.... It is the ICOM IC-746Pro. It seems to be a primeDSP rig for DX'ing. I never would have thought to look at transceivers as I am not a ham, but I have to admit, it looks to be the direction I want to go in. I'm probably going to buy one soon. If I do get one, I'll probably also study to get a ham ticket, being that it also has a transmitter. It might be fun. Also.. I wouldn't buy a used radio, but I have seen used 746Pro's selling for just under $1,000 bucks because there are serious defects in the transmitter section. No problem there, though, if you only want it for receiving. It would be a bargain to have a receiver like that for under $1,000. So.... For top quality program listening... The R8B.... For non DSP DX'ing, The R-75. For DSP SUPER DX'ing, The 746Pro. For best over all versatility, the R8B. For best value for dollar... R-75. Hope that helps I've had a similar experience the last few weeks --- hunting for a new rig, and everything points in the direction of the Icom 746Pro, a mediocre transceiver that is really an awesome receiver! I see them on ebay for about 800 bucks... think I'll get one. Tim |
In article ,
says... Since you've owned many of my radios I think you're in a good position to answer my question. I just might save my money for a computer upgrade in Dec then unless I hear something else. I use external speakers and the 525's audio output is superb for it's age that's for sure. I would give it no more than "It's ok" as far as audio quality goes, with the right speaker, it's pretty good, but the Kenwood R5000 and the Drake are much better. If you find exactly the right speaker for the R5000 (not any of the ham/SW speakers), it's very nice.. The thing is I love collecting these radios but I've spending just too much money. I bought these 6 radios in less then 7 months. It's addictive. The funny thing is, the guy selling the R8a told me if I have a 525 I won't hear the station any better. After that reply I just had to ask you guys. Unless you listen to really weak stuff where the sync detect will make a big difference, no you wont hear it any better. I would say RF performance wise, the 525 beats the Drake R8X series, but has worse audio, in AM. BDK "BDK" wrote in message ... In article , says... Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky I have a NRD-525, and have had a Kenwood R5000 with the YK88A1 filter, also a Frg7700. The only advantages an R8x(any model) has over the 525 is much better AM audio quality and synch detection. I rarely listen to AM, and the ergonomic advantages of the NRD-525 make it any easy choice for me over the Drakes. I don't like the looks of the Drakes, they just look cheap, IMO. Their operation is awkward, and to me, most of the front panel is backwards. To me, nothing are as pleasant to use as my NRD515, and my Hammarlund HQ100(modded to the max) are. IMO, the Kenwood is a match for the Drakes, audio quality wise, and close everywhere else except for the sync detector not being there. I wouldn't spend the money on a Drake, unless you really need the sync detector.. BDK |
Michael wrote:
Should I Buy Another Radio?? Yes, you should. You know you deserve it. I have also used my friends R8A and his R8B. I have read posts that say the R-5000 sounds as good as the R-5000 for program listening, but I dont think so. I'd say it sounds EXACTLY like the R-5000 g mike |
You're all great guys and are giving me fantastic advice. I mainly use the
radio for program listening during the day, and DX'ing at night. But, as I said before, I want the benefit of a good receiver so I know I can improve my skill at this hobby. It seems I have a "Drake" bug in my head now as well as the other radios people mentioned. I get these bugs to buy something and it won't leave me alone. It's like I start telling myself how short life is, I'm getting older, asteroids could destroy the planet any month, so why not buy the radio? :) Can someone tell me what a good price for a R8A with VHF option in very good condition sells for these days just in case I succumb to my addiction? Lucky "Michael" wrote in message t... "Lucky" wrote in message ... Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky Hiya, Lucky.... I don't know if you want your next new radio to be ideal for program listening, DX'ing, utility or all three :-) You already have the NRD-525 and the R-5000. I have used the R-5000 and I can say as you can that it is a GREAT radio. I like it quite a bit. I have also used my friends R8A and his R8B. I have read posts that say the R-5000 sounds as good as the R-5000 for program listening, but I dont think so. I think the R-5000 sounds very good, and I think it is a very versatile radio, but I still dont think it sounds as good as the R8A. As for the R8B... When you are program listening and have conditions of fade and or strong adjacent signals, I have NEVER heard anything deal with it as good as the R8B. It keeps it nice and steady and the ssb selectable am sync allows you to listen to a signal that may be getting splashed from above or below without having to put up with the muffled sound that you get by going to a narrow filter setting. So... If you want the "King" for program listening, I think the R8B will beat every radio you have. Now... If you want to do some serious DX'ing... I may be able to offer a suggestion.... Currently, I use an R-75 with all the Kiwa mods... I have found it to be good for both program listening and for DX'ing. For DX'ing, I almost always use the R-75 in ssb mode. If found it to be great for doing that. I think it is better for DX'ing then the R8 or the R8A and R8B. With the Kiwa mods, it is also respectable as a radio for program listening. Not as good as the R8 series for program listening, but it is adequate. The one amazing feature of the R-75 given its good performance and features... The Price... I got mine brand new with the free DSP module for just under $500.00. But.... As of the past few months, I have really been interested in getting a new true DSP rig for DX'ing. One of the first rigs I thought of was the NRD-545. After some reading, advice and research, I have come to a radio I didn't even know existed. I have not yet used it, but everything I have read and heard shows that it would be exactly what I would hope for as far as DX'ing performance.... It is the ICOM IC-746Pro. It seems to be a primeDSP rig for DX'ing. I never would have thought to look at transceivers as I am not a ham, but I have to admit, it looks to be the direction I want to go in. I'm probably going to buy one soon. If I do get one, I'll probably also study to get a ham ticket, being that it also has a transmitter. It might be fun. Also.. I wouldn't buy a used radio, but I have seen used 746Pro's selling for just under $1,000 bucks because there are serious defects in the transmitter section. No problem there, though, if you only want it for receiving. It would be a bargain to have a receiver like that for under $1,000. So.... For top quality program listening... The R8B.... For non DSP DX'ing, The R-75. For DSP SUPER DX'ing, The 746Pro. For best over all versatility, the R8B. For best value for dollar... R-75. Hope that helps -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
you certainly have given the group fodder for conversation!
I'm quite certain that you won't hear anything on an R8B that you would not hear as well on the 525 or the R5000. The 525 doesn't have the greatest audio, but it's a killer utility listener. I hated the R5000's ergonomics, but it's a great performer and has great audio. So chase DX on the 525 and listen to programs on the 5000. Play with the rest for fun. You know, of course, you'll never be completely happy until you've actually had the Drake. Then you too can feel qualified to answer questions like this. John "Lucky" wrote in message ... You're all great guys and are giving me fantastic advice. I mainly use the radio for program listening during the day, and DX'ing at night. But, as I said before, I want the benefit of a good receiver so I know I can improve my skill at this hobby. It seems I have a "Drake" bug in my head now as well as the other radios people mentioned. I get these bugs to buy something and it won't leave me alone. It's like I start telling myself how short life is, I'm getting older, asteroids could destroy the planet any month, so why not buy the radio? :) Can someone tell me what a good price for a R8A with VHF option in very good condition sells for these days just in case I succumb to my addiction? Lucky "Michael" wrote in message t... "Lucky" wrote in message ... Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky Hiya, Lucky.... I don't know if you want your next new radio to be ideal for program listening, DX'ing, utility or all three :-) You already have the NRD-525 and the R-5000. I have used the R-5000 and I can say as you can that it is a GREAT radio. I like it quite a bit. I have also used my friends R8A and his R8B. I have read posts that say the R-5000 sounds as good as the R-5000 for program listening, but I dont think so. I think the R-5000 sounds very good, and I think it is a very versatile radio, but I still dont think it sounds as good as the R8A. As for the R8B... When you are program listening and have conditions of fade and or strong adjacent signals, I have NEVER heard anything deal with it as good as the R8B. It keeps it nice and steady and the ssb selectable am sync allows you to listen to a signal that may be getting splashed from above or below without having to put up with the muffled sound that you get by going to a narrow filter setting. So... If you want the "King" for program listening, I think the R8B will beat every radio you have. Now... If you want to do some serious DX'ing... I may be able to offer a suggestion.... Currently, I use an R-75 with all the Kiwa mods... I have found it to be good for both program listening and for DX'ing. For DX'ing, I almost always use the R-75 in ssb mode. If found it to be great for doing that. I think it is better for DX'ing then the R8 or the R8A and R8B. With the Kiwa mods, it is also respectable as a radio for program listening. Not as good as the R8 series for program listening, but it is adequate. The one amazing feature of the R-75 given its good performance and features... The Price... I got mine brand new with the free DSP module for just under $500.00. But.... As of the past few months, I have really been interested in getting a new true DSP rig for DX'ing. One of the first rigs I thought of was the NRD-545. After some reading, advice and research, I have come to a radio I didn't even know existed. I have not yet used it, but everything I have read and heard shows that it would be exactly what I would hope for as far as DX'ing performance.... It is the ICOM IC-746Pro. It seems to be a primeDSP rig for DX'ing. I never would have thought to look at transceivers as I am not a ham, but I have to admit, it looks to be the direction I want to go in. I'm probably going to buy one soon. If I do get one, I'll probably also study to get a ham ticket, being that it also has a transmitter. It might be fun. Also.. I wouldn't buy a used radio, but I have seen used 746Pro's selling for just under $1,000 bucks because there are serious defects in the transmitter section. No problem there, though, if you only want it for receiving. It would be a bargain to have a receiver like that for under $1,000. So.... For top quality program listening... The R8B.... For non DSP DX'ing, The R-75. For DSP SUPER DX'ing, The 746Pro. For best over all versatility, the R8B. For best value for dollar... R-75. Hope that helps -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:06:11 -0400, "Lucky"
wrote: Can someone tell me what a good price for a R8A with VHF option in very good condition sells for these days just in case I succumb to my addiction? Lucky Yes - go here - http://tinyurl.com/3w4lo Ebay link |
"You know, of course, you'll never be completely happy until you've actually
had the Drake. Then you too can feel qualified to answer questions like" this. John I think you hit it on the head.....my head! "john KB5AG" wrote in message ... you certainly have given the group fodder for conversation! I'm quite certain that you won't hear anything on an R8B that you would not hear as well on the 525 or the R5000. The 525 doesn't have the greatest audio, but it's a killer utility listener. I hated the R5000's ergonomics, but it's a great performer and has great audio. So chase DX on the 525 and listen to programs on the 5000. Play with the rest for fun. You know, of course, you'll never be completely happy until you've actually had the Drake. Then you too can feel qualified to answer questions like this. John "Lucky" wrote in message ... You're all great guys and are giving me fantastic advice. I mainly use the radio for program listening during the day, and DX'ing at night. But, as I said before, I want the benefit of a good receiver so I know I can improve my skill at this hobby. It seems I have a "Drake" bug in my head now as well as the other radios people mentioned. I get these bugs to buy something and it won't leave me alone. It's like I start telling myself how short life is, I'm getting older, asteroids could destroy the planet any month, so why not buy the radio? :) Can someone tell me what a good price for a R8A with VHF option in very good condition sells for these days just in case I succumb to my addiction? Lucky "Michael" wrote in message t... "Lucky" wrote in message ... Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky Hiya, Lucky.... I don't know if you want your next new radio to be ideal for program listening, DX'ing, utility or all three :-) You already have the NRD-525 and the R-5000. I have used the R-5000 and I can say as you can that it is a GREAT radio. I like it quite a bit. I have also used my friends R8A and his R8B. I have read posts that say the R-5000 sounds as good as the R-5000 for program listening, but I dont think so. I think the R-5000 sounds very good, and I think it is a very versatile radio, but I still dont think it sounds as good as the R8A. As for the R8B... When you are program listening and have conditions of fade and or strong adjacent signals, I have NEVER heard anything deal with it as good as the R8B. It keeps it nice and steady and the ssb selectable am sync allows you to listen to a signal that may be getting splashed from above or below without having to put up with the muffled sound that you get by going to a narrow filter setting. So... If you want the "King" for program listening, I think the R8B will beat every radio you have. Now... If you want to do some serious DX'ing... I may be able to offer a suggestion.... Currently, I use an R-75 with all the Kiwa mods... I have found it to be good for both program listening and for DX'ing. For DX'ing, I almost always use the R-75 in ssb mode. If found it to be great for doing that. I think it is better for DX'ing then the R8 or the R8A and R8B. With the Kiwa mods, it is also respectable as a radio for program listening. Not as good as the R8 series for program listening, but it is adequate. The one amazing feature of the R-75 given its good performance and features... The Price... I got mine brand new with the free DSP module for just under $500.00. But.... As of the past few months, I have really been interested in getting a new true DSP rig for DX'ing. One of the first rigs I thought of was the NRD-545. After some reading, advice and research, I have come to a radio I didn't even know existed. I have not yet used it, but everything I have read and heard shows that it would be exactly what I would hope for as far as DX'ing performance.... It is the ICOM IC-746Pro. It seems to be a primeDSP rig for DX'ing. I never would have thought to look at transceivers as I am not a ham, but I have to admit, it looks to be the direction I want to go in. I'm probably going to buy one soon. If I do get one, I'll probably also study to get a ham ticket, being that it also has a transmitter. It might be fun. Also.. I wouldn't buy a used radio, but I have seen used 746Pro's selling for just under $1,000 bucks because there are serious defects in the transmitter section. No problem there, though, if you only want it for receiving. It would be a bargain to have a receiver like that for under $1,000. So.... For top quality program listening... The R8B.... For non DSP DX'ing, The R-75. For DSP SUPER DX'ing, The 746Pro. For best over all versatility, the R8B. For best value for dollar... R-75. Hope that helps -- Respectfully, Michael Location: New Jersey Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102 PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube) Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com |
That's the one I was looking at too. Only thing is I can't pay by CC and
have to send out the money first then get the reciever. I really like some kind of protection a credit card can afford just in case. It it arrives broken, something wrong, I'm out the money. I know most radio guys are very cool and responsible, but you know stuff happens. How do you people feel about sending out money first with no recourse really? Lucky "Kameron Spesial" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:06:11 -0400, "Lucky" wrote: Can someone tell me what a good price for a R8A with VHF option in very good condition sells for these days just in case I succumb to my addiction? Lucky Yes - go here - http://tinyurl.com/3w4lo Ebay link |
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:53:26 -0400, "Lucky"
wrote: That's the one I was looking at too. Only thing is I can't pay by CC and have to send out the money first then get the reciever. I really like some kind of protection a credit card can afford just in case. It it arrives broken, something wrong, I'm out the money. I know most radio guys are very cool and responsible, but you know stuff happens. How do you people feel about sending out money first with no recourse really? Lucky "Kameron Spesial" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:06:11 -0400, "Lucky" wrote: Can someone tell me what a good price for a R8A with VHF option in very good condition sells for these days just in case I succumb to my addiction? Lucky Yes - go here - http://tinyurl.com/3w4lo Ebay link Use payPal. |
He doesn't take Paypal. Only checks and money orders. He has to have a
Paypal account to take cash transactions. You know, I once paid a guy cash with Paypal who didn't tell me about a dent on top of the radio. When I looked over what my options were, Paypal told me if I pay with cash, they can do nothing at all but send him a e-mail asking him to comply. They actually told me you would be better off using a CC for your future purchases. I have no idea why some Ebayers feel people will send large sums of money to strangers and hope for the best. I know Paypal is not loved, but if you pay with a CC, it's hard to get taken. Lucky "Kameron Spesial" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:53:26 -0400, "Lucky" wrote: That's the one I was looking at too. Only thing is I can't pay by CC and have to send out the money first then get the reciever. I really like some kind of protection a credit card can afford just in case. It it arrives broken, something wrong, I'm out the money. I know most radio guys are very cool and responsible, but you know stuff happens. How do you people feel about sending out money first with no recourse really? Lucky "Kameron Spesial" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 23:06:11 -0400, "Lucky" wrote: Can someone tell me what a good price for a R8A with VHF option in very good condition sells for these days just in case I succumb to my addiction? Lucky Yes - go here - http://tinyurl.com/3w4lo Ebay link Use payPal. |
If you are into SSB and utilities, the NRD-545 is an excellent option. I
notice you already own a Japan Radio Company rig, so maybe that does a similar job. The 545 (as you probably know!) is a true DSP receiver (IF and AF DSP). Like all radios, there are varying opinions on its performance. I have one and I'm mightily impressed with it - the best radio I've ever had the pleasure of operating, simply brilliant. Mark. "Lucky" wrote in message ... Hi I'm pretty new to SW radio. Not even a year into the hobby. I'm getting more and more into looking around for obscure SSB stations and weak muddy stations. All in all I want to own the best within price constraints so I know I'm working with good equipment and if I can't get a certain staion in it's my own fault and/or my antenna. I think the NRD-525 is pretty good as well as the r-5000 really. I just wondered if I bought the Drake and if I were in dark, would I notice anything different about the Drake. But you guys have given me the main reasons so far. "Mark S. Holden" wrote in message ... Lucky wrote: Hi fellas I'm new to this group and would like your advice based on your broad knowledge of radios. OK I have 5 radios. 1] JRC NRD-525 stock 2] Kenwood R-5000 YK-88a-1 and remote options 3] FROG-7 stock, mint 4] Ten Tec 320-D 5] FRG-7700 FRA-7700 and F5 low pass filter options 6] Degen 1103 Now, I've been looking to buy a Drake R8 or R8A since I've read so many good things about them and many of you own one. My question is, do I need it and will I *notice a big difference owning one over my other 5 radios? Now when I ask "do I need it", I hope you radio owners know what I mean by that. Thanks for your time Lucky Hi It would be easier for people to give good advice if they knew what you were hoping to accomplish. I had an original R8. It was a good radio, and it did everything pretty well. As Dan has mentioned, the R8b has the better sync detector. Sideband selectable sync is nice - I use it all the time on my Harris. The original one had the nicer tuning knob. Not a performance feature, but hey, you'll probably spend a lot of time using it. The Drakes have nice audio - particularly if you use a good external speaker, so you'd probably enjoy one for program listening. Personally, I wouldn't buy a Grundig Sat 800. While it's got a circuit designed by Drake, they're made in China, and the build quality doesn't impress me. They're also incredibly large. They remind me of the stereos they used to sell in Woolworths back in the 70's. Speaker cabinets would be 5 feet tall, 2 feet wide, and weigh close to 10 pounds. |
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