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Newbie: Is this a good deal?
I like old stuff and I want to get into hearing some talk radio outside of my
area. I'm also on a budget. Will this suit my needs? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...526781 1&rd=1 |
Doc Gorpon wrote:
I like old stuff and I want to get into hearing some talk radio outside of my area. I'm also on a budget. Will this suit my needs? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...526781 1&rd=1 Hi I'm not familiar with that radio, but I'd avoid it. He calls it a shortwave radio, but it's a four band, and he mentions covering AM, FM, VHF and PSB. If it got shortwave frequencies, I'd expect one of the bands he named to be "sw", or "hf". |
What about this one? I actually like it better.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5724327 0 94&rd=1 |
I would not consider that radio...
If you want just some standard AM radio I would look at a General Electric Super Radio 3. They're about $60, have good reception and good sound. You can also hook up an external antenna (randoom wire) to it. A good picture and some general information can be found here. http://www.leeselect.com/ge/ge-super.htm Below is some useful information off of the Neatherlands website http://www.rnw.nl/ Most of these radios can be had quite a bit cheaper than the prices listed. The numbers after the models such as 1 2 3 4 5 are the rankings that Radio Netherlands gave these radios.One would be the lowest rating while 5 would be the highest. There are some highly rated radios for around $50. I hope this helps you. Grundig Yacht Boy 360 portable 5 $136 Sony ICF-SW7600GR portable 5 $170 Grundig Yacht Boy 400 portable 5 $200 Sangean ATS-909 portable 5 $230 Ten-Tec RX-320 table-top 5 $295 Sony ICF-2001D/ ICF-2010 portable 5 $350 Lowe HF-150 table-top 5 $520 AOR AOR 7030 table-top 5 $1,150 Drake R8B table-top 5 $1,160 AOR AOR 7030 Plus table-top 5 $1,300 Kneisner and Doering KWZ-30 table-top 5 $1,950 Watkins-Johnson HF-1000 table-top 5 $3,800 ICOM IC-R9000 table-top 5 $6,200 Sony ICF-SW11 portable 4 $50 Sony ICF-SW600 portable 4 $50 Sony ICF-XR-C5100 table-top 4 $112 Philips AE-3750 portable 4 $125 Grundig Yacht Boy 305 portable 4 $130 Sangean ATS-505 portable 4 $130 Sony ICF-SW40 portable 4 $130 Sangean ATS-818 portable 4 $180 Sony ICF-SW100 portable 4 $360 Sony ICF-SW77 portable 4 $475 Sony ICF-SW07 portable 4 $498 Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium desktop 4 $500 Sony ICF-SW1000T portable 4 $540 Yaesu FRG-100B table-top 4 $550 ICOM IC-R75 table-top 4 $780 Lowe HF-250 table-top 4 $1,180 Sangean SG-711L portable 3 $40 Grundig Yacht Boy 207 portable 3 $50 Philips AE-3350 portable 3 $60 Grundig Yacht Boy 320 portable 3 $70 Philips AE-3650 portable 3 $70 Sangean ATS-808 portable 3 $120 Sangean ATS-606 portable 3 $160 AKD Target HF3 table-top 3 $250 Grundig Yacht Boy 500 portable 3 $299 Drake SW8 table-top 3 $780 Sangean SG-789A portable 2 $45 Radio Shack DX-397 portable 2 $60 Radio Shack DX-396 portable 2 $70 Freeplay Global Shortwave portable 2 $100 Grundig P 2000 portable 2 $150 Yaesu VR-500 portable 2 $305 Hitachi WKH-WS1 Worldspace portable 2 $406 Sangean ATS-303 portable 1 $90 Sony ICF-SW12 portable 1 $100 ICOM IC-R1 portable 1 $550 ICOM IC-R100 portable 1 $700 Japan Radio Company NRD-371 table-top 0 $0 Sangean ATS-404 portable 0 $90 Grundig Yacht Boy 217 portable 0 $120 Radio Shack DX-399 portable 0 $150 Lowe SRX-100 table-top 0 $260 Rosetta Laboratories WR-1000 table-top 0 $400 Rosetta Laboratories WR-1500 table-top 0 $500 NASA HF-5E table-top 0 $530 ICOM IC-R10 portable 0 $600 Palstar R30 table-top 0 $600 Japan Radio Company NRD-545 table-top 0 $1,800 Rosetta Laboratories WR-3000 table-top 0 $1,900 AOR AOR 5000 table-top 0 $2,000 ICOM IC-R8500 table-top 0 $2,000 ICOM IC-PCR1000 table-top 0 $400 Ten-Tec RX-340 table-top 0 $4,000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doc Gorpon" Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:21 PM Subject: Newbie: Is this a good deal? I like old stuff and I want to get into hearing some talk radio outside of my area. I'm also on a budget. Will this suit my needs? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...526781 1&rd=1 "Doc Gorpon" wrote in message ... I like old stuff and I want to get into hearing some talk radio outside of my area. I'm also on a budget. Will this suit my needs? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...526781 1&rd=1 |
Doc Gorpon wrote:
What about this one? I actually like it better. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5724327 0 94&rd=1 Again, I'm not familiar with that radio, but Zenith TO's are popular with collectors. It's bound to be better than the last one you found, as this shortwave radio will tune shortwave frequencies. On the other hand, while you like old things, you might find a new radio in the same price range that will out perform it. |
Yes, I'm fairly sure that I'm sacrificing some features and possibly sound
quality for the vintage tube twist. But my love of vintage tube radios is probably equal to that of wanting to hear some odd radio shows. So I'm willing to sacrifice a little as long as it is usable and works for shortwave listening (I'm sure it wouldn't be as reliable as a newer digital unit). |
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= = = ... I like old stuff and I want to get into hearing some talk radio outside of my area. I'm also on a budget. Will this suit my needs? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=2275267811 DG, Here are a few Vintage Radios on eBay: * NICE 41 PHILCO TABLE TOP RADIO http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274626930 * Hallicrafters S-38 Shortwave HF Ham Radio Receiver http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2273879195 * Very Nice Vintage Westinghouse Wooden Radio http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274840894 * Hallicrafter S-38A Radio http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5724256862 * Firestone Air Chief 4-A-20 table top radio 1947 Great! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5723535039 * TELEFUNKEN GAVOTTE MULTIBAND TABLE RADIO http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274704087 * GE ANTIQUE RADIO - G-53 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274843073 * Philco Classic 40's-style Bakelite Radio~1949~EXCLT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274324237 * HALLICRAFTERS SX 110 RECEIVER Nice Cond. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5724086762 * VINTAGE STROMBERG CARLSON RADIO 1947 PERFECT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274881216 * very old German Grundig Type: 4085 near mint of 1956 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2273981327 * GERMAN TELEFUNKEN OPUS STEREO RADIO BIG BEAUTY !! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2272773716 * HALLICRAFTERS SX-100 SHORTWAVE RADIO http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5723281587 * Search "HALLICRAFTERS" in Vintage Electronics SEARCH= http://tinyurl.com/4tr4s * Search "HALLICRAFTERS" in Shortwave Radio SEARCH= http://tinyurl.com/6ox2s * Search "NATIONAL" in Shortwave Radio SEARCH= http://tinyurl.com/5phwd * Search "HAMMERLUND" in Shortwave Radio SEARCH= http://tinyurl.com/5u3e8 READ: Selecting a Shortwave Radio - by DXing.Com http://www.dxing.com/swrx.htm READ: Favorite Tube-Type Shortwave Receivers - by DXing.Com http://www.dxing.com/rx/tindex.htm OBTW: If you are simply looking for a good 'old time' Transistor AM Radio for AM/MW DXing; then consider the GE Superadio II * General Electric {GE} Superadio II - Excellent AM-FM http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5723615274 AM/MW LOOP ANTENNAS: Also, consider building a AM/MW Loop Antenna to assist in your Day-Time AM Talk Radio Listening. * Loop Antenna Information and Design eGroup on YAHOO! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gccloopantennadesign/ * MTM Scientific, Inc... AM Radio Loop Antenna http://www.mtmscientific.com/loop.html Purchase the Starter Kit, Deluxe Kit or Finished Antenna! Ultimate AM Radio Antenna http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5724289169 hth ~ RHF .. |
RHF wrote:
DG, Here are a few Vintage Radios on eBay: Lots of nice stuff out there. I wonder about the tube supply though..how hard is it to get the things these days? I haven't looked lately, so I don't know supply or pricing. A long time ago, someone suggested a variable power supply for the filament supply..the idea being that you could heat up the filaments in a slow and orderly fashion and thereby extending their life tremendously. It seemed to make sense as most lightbulbs fail at the moment of being turned on. There are enough similarities that a comparison may safely be made. mike |
"m II" wrote in message news:UPc9d.37987$N%.31812@edtnps84... RHF wrote: DG, Here are a few Vintage Radios on eBay: Lots of nice stuff out there. I wonder about the tube supply though..how hard is it to get the things these days? There's still plenty of tubes. Most radios used common tubes, which were produced in high volume. The military has surplused out pallet loads of mil-spec radio tubes over the last couple of decades. Also, since the tubes were common to most of the makers, there's still bushel baskets full of good pulled tubes nobody ever threw out. I've bought plenty of used tubes at hamfests, and nearly all are good. I usually pay fifty cents to a buck for used tubes I know I can use. New radio tubes usually go for two to five bucks. Some audio output tubes and rectifiers might go for more. There's a couple of battery set tubes which are now pretty expensive. I haven't looked lately, so I don't know supply or pricing. Mostly it's not a problem If the radio tube supply ever gets tight, people will be able to modify sets to use solid state replacements or TV tubes. Most of the TV tubes are almost give away items now. If those TV tubes don't get thrown out, somebody might be using them in radios in a hundred years or so. A long time ago, someone suggested a variable power supply for the filament supply..the idea being that you could heat up the filaments in a slow and orderly fashion and thereby extending their life tremendously. It seemed to make sense as most lightbulbs fail at the moment of being turned on. There are enough similarities that a comparison may safely be made. Don Klipstein says a soft start device might improve bulb life by only a few percent. I'll take his word for it: http://members.misty.com/don/bulb1.html#mll Anyway, the heater of a tube runs much cooler than the filament of a light bulb and ought to last much longer. I know there's a formula for calculating the life of a filament vs. temperature. I don't know what it is. I think there's a fourth power relationship, however. A little temperature reduction increases lifespan dramatically. Tube heaters run cool enough that they don't evaporate much material during their lifespan. I think the heater failure mode is a little different than a light bulb. The number one cause for heater failure in the AC/DC sets I've worked on is a heater to cathode short in another tube. Tubes fail, but they don't usually fail by opening up the heater. Emissions go down as the tube ages. Heater to cathode shorts are a common problem. Gas can get into the tube Grids can get damaged by overheating. Tubes which use soldered pins can have bad connections. Still, radio tubes are generally reliable. I think small signal tubes have been estimated to have an average lifespan of 50,000 hours, longer if you can accecpt reduced performance. My Hallicrafters SX-99 (1957) still has all it's original tubes, and they all work fine. Frank Dresser |
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