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Old October 7th 04, 02:21 AM
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Default Newbie: Is this a good deal?

I like old stuff and I want to get into hearing some talk radio outside of my
area. I'm also on a budget. Will this suit my needs?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...526781 1&rd=1

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Old October 7th 04, 03:31 AM
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Doc Gorpon wrote:

I like old stuff and I want to get into hearing some talk radio outside of my
area. I'm also on a budget. Will this suit my needs?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...526781 1&rd=1


Hi

I'm not familiar with that radio, but I'd avoid it.

He calls it a shortwave radio, but it's a four band, and he mentions
covering AM, FM, VHF and PSB.

If it got shortwave frequencies, I'd expect one of the bands he named to
be "sw", or "hf".







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Old October 7th 04, 03:38 AM
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What about this one? I actually like it better.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5724327 0
94&rd=1
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Old October 7th 04, 04:15 AM
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I would not consider that radio...

If you want just some standard AM radio I would look at a General Electric
Super Radio 3. They're about $60, have good reception and good sound. You
can also hook up an external antenna (randoom wire) to it. A good picture
and some general information can be found here.
http://www.leeselect.com/ge/ge-super.htm



Below is some useful information off of the Neatherlands website
http://www.rnw.nl/ Most of these radios can be had quite a bit cheaper than
the prices listed. The numbers after the models such as 1 2 3 4 5 are the
rankings that Radio Netherlands gave these radios.One would be the lowest
rating while 5 would be the highest. There are some highly rated radios for
around $50. I hope this helps you.

Grundig Yacht Boy 360 portable 5 $136
Sony ICF-SW7600GR portable 5 $170
Grundig Yacht Boy 400 portable 5 $200
Sangean ATS-909 portable 5 $230

Ten-Tec RX-320 table-top 5 $295
Sony ICF-2001D/ ICF-2010 portable 5 $350
Lowe HF-150 table-top 5 $520
AOR AOR 7030 table-top 5 $1,150
Drake R8B table-top 5 $1,160
AOR AOR 7030 Plus table-top 5 $1,300
Kneisner and Doering KWZ-30 table-top 5 $1,950
Watkins-Johnson HF-1000 table-top 5 $3,800
ICOM IC-R9000 table-top 5 $6,200


Sony ICF-SW11 portable 4 $50
Sony ICF-SW600 portable 4 $50
Sony ICF-XR-C5100 table-top 4 $112
Philips AE-3750 portable 4 $125
Grundig Yacht Boy 305 portable 4 $130
Sangean ATS-505 portable 4 $130
Sony ICF-SW40 portable 4 $130
Sangean ATS-818 portable 4 $180
Sony ICF-SW100 portable 4 $360
Sony ICF-SW77 portable 4 $475
Sony ICF-SW07 portable 4 $498
Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium desktop 4 $500
Sony ICF-SW1000T portable 4 $540
Yaesu FRG-100B table-top 4 $550
ICOM IC-R75 table-top 4 $780
Lowe HF-250 table-top 4 $1,180


Sangean SG-711L portable 3 $40
Grundig Yacht Boy 207 portable 3 $50
Philips AE-3350 portable 3 $60
Grundig Yacht Boy 320 portable 3 $70
Philips AE-3650 portable 3 $70
Sangean ATS-808 portable 3 $120
Sangean ATS-606 portable 3 $160
AKD Target HF3 table-top 3 $250
Grundig Yacht Boy 500 portable 3 $299
Drake SW8 table-top 3 $780


Sangean SG-789A portable 2 $45
Radio Shack DX-397 portable 2 $60
Radio Shack DX-396 portable 2 $70
Freeplay Global Shortwave portable 2 $100
Grundig P 2000 portable 2 $150
Yaesu VR-500 portable 2 $305
Hitachi WKH-WS1 Worldspace portable 2 $406


Sangean ATS-303 portable 1 $90
Sony ICF-SW12 portable 1 $100
ICOM IC-R1 portable 1 $550
ICOM IC-R100 portable 1 $700


Japan Radio Company NRD-371 table-top 0 $0
Sangean ATS-404 portable 0 $90
Grundig Yacht Boy 217 portable 0 $120
Radio Shack DX-399 portable 0 $150
Lowe SRX-100 table-top 0 $260
Rosetta Laboratories WR-1000 table-top 0 $400
Rosetta Laboratories WR-1500 table-top 0 $500
NASA HF-5E table-top 0 $530
ICOM IC-R10 portable 0 $600
Palstar R30 table-top 0 $600
Japan Radio Company NRD-545 table-top 0 $1,800
Rosetta Laboratories WR-3000 table-top 0 $1,900
AOR AOR 5000 table-top 0 $2,000
ICOM IC-R8500 table-top 0 $2,000
ICOM IC-PCR1000 table-top 0 $400
Ten-Tec RX-340 table-top 0 $4,000


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From: "Doc Gorpon"
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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:21 PM
Subject: Newbie: Is this a good deal?


I like old stuff and I want to get into hearing some talk radio outside of

my
area. I'm also on a budget. Will this suit my needs?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...526781 1&rd=1

"Doc Gorpon" wrote in message
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I like old stuff and I want to get into hearing some talk radio outside of

my
area. I'm also on a budget. Will this suit my needs?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...526781 1&rd=1


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Old October 7th 04, 04:38 AM
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Doc Gorpon wrote:
What about this one? I actually like it better.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5724327 0
94&rd=1


Again, I'm not familiar with that radio, but Zenith TO's are popular
with collectors. It's bound to be better than the last one you found,
as this shortwave radio will tune shortwave frequencies.

On the other hand, while you like old things, you might find a new radio
in the same price range that will out perform it.




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Old October 7th 04, 04:44 AM
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Yes, I'm fairly sure that I'm sacrificing some features and possibly sound
quality for the vintage tube twist. But my love of vintage tube radios is
probably equal to that of wanting to hear some odd radio shows. So I'm willing
to sacrifice a little as long as it is usable and works for shortwave listening
(I'm sure it wouldn't be as reliable as a newer digital unit).
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Old October 7th 04, 01:44 PM
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= = = (Doc Gorpon) wrote in message
= = = ...
I like old stuff and I want to get into hearing some talk
radio outside of my area.

I'm also on a budget.

Will this suit my needs?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=2275267811



DG,

Here are a few Vintage Radios on eBay:

* NICE 41 PHILCO TABLE TOP RADIO
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274626930

* Hallicrafters S-38 Shortwave HF Ham Radio Receiver
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2273879195

* Very Nice Vintage Westinghouse Wooden Radio
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274840894

* Hallicrafter S-38A Radio
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5724256862

* Firestone Air Chief 4-A-20 table top radio 1947 Great!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5723535039

* TELEFUNKEN GAVOTTE MULTIBAND TABLE RADIO
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274704087

* GE ANTIQUE RADIO - G-53
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274843073

* Philco Classic 40's-style Bakelite Radio~1949~EXCLT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274324237

* HALLICRAFTERS SX 110 RECEIVER Nice Cond.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5724086762

* VINTAGE STROMBERG CARLSON RADIO 1947 PERFECT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2274881216

* very old German Grundig Type: 4085 near mint of 1956
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2273981327

* GERMAN TELEFUNKEN OPUS STEREO RADIO BIG BEAUTY !!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2272773716

* HALLICRAFTERS SX-100 SHORTWAVE RADIO
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5723281587

* Search "HALLICRAFTERS" in Vintage Electronics
SEARCH= http://tinyurl.com/4tr4s

* Search "HALLICRAFTERS" in Shortwave Radio
SEARCH= http://tinyurl.com/6ox2s

* Search "NATIONAL" in Shortwave Radio
SEARCH= http://tinyurl.com/5phwd

* Search "HAMMERLUND" in Shortwave Radio
SEARCH= http://tinyurl.com/5u3e8

READ: Selecting a Shortwave Radio - by DXing.Com
http://www.dxing.com/swrx.htm

READ: Favorite Tube-Type Shortwave Receivers - by DXing.Com
http://www.dxing.com/rx/tindex.htm

OBTW: If you are simply looking for a good 'old time' Transistor
AM Radio for AM/MW DXing; then consider the GE Superadio II
* General Electric {GE} Superadio II - Excellent AM-FM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5723615274

AM/MW LOOP ANTENNAS:
Also, consider building a AM/MW Loop Antenna to assist in your
Day-Time AM Talk Radio Listening.

* Loop Antenna Information and Design eGroup on YAHOO!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gccloopantennadesign/

* MTM Scientific, Inc... AM Radio Loop Antenna
http://www.mtmscientific.com/loop.html
Purchase the Starter Kit, Deluxe Kit or Finished Antenna!

Ultimate AM Radio Antenna
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5724289169


hth ~ RHF
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Old October 7th 04, 03:57 PM
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RHF wrote:

DG,

Here are a few Vintage Radios on eBay:


Lots of nice stuff out there. I wonder about the tube supply though..how
hard is it to get the things these days?

I haven't looked lately, so I don't know supply or pricing.

A long time ago, someone suggested a variable power supply for the
filament supply..the idea being that you could heat up the filaments in
a slow and orderly fashion and thereby extending their life
tremendously. It seemed to make sense as most lightbulbs fail at the
moment of being turned on. There are enough similarities that a
comparison may safely be made.




mike
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RHF wrote:

DG,

Here are a few Vintage Radios on eBay:


Lots of nice stuff out there. I wonder about the tube supply though..how
hard is it to get the things these days?


There's still plenty of tubes. Most radios used common tubes, which were
produced in high volume. The military has surplused out pallet loads of
mil-spec radio tubes over the last couple of decades. Also, since the tubes
were common to most of the makers, there's still bushel baskets full of good
pulled tubes nobody ever threw out. I've bought plenty of used tubes at
hamfests, and nearly all are good. I usually pay fifty cents to a buck for
used tubes I know I can use. New radio tubes usually go for two to five
bucks. Some audio output tubes and rectifiers might go for more. There's a
couple of battery set tubes which are now pretty expensive.


I haven't looked lately, so I don't know supply or pricing.


Mostly it's not a problem If the radio tube supply ever gets tight, people
will be able to modify sets to use solid state replacements or TV tubes.
Most of the TV tubes are almost give away items now. If those TV tubes
don't get thrown out, somebody might be using them in radios in a hundred
years or so.


A long time ago, someone suggested a variable power supply for the
filament supply..the idea being that you could heat up the filaments in
a slow and orderly fashion and thereby extending their life
tremendously. It seemed to make sense as most lightbulbs fail at the
moment of being turned on. There are enough similarities that a
comparison may safely be made.


Don Klipstein says a soft start device might improve bulb life by only a few
percent. I'll take his word for it:

http://members.misty.com/don/bulb1.html#mll


Anyway, the heater of a tube runs much cooler than the filament of a light
bulb and ought to last much longer. I know there's a formula for
calculating the life of a filament vs. temperature. I don't know what it
is. I think there's a fourth power relationship, however. A little
temperature reduction increases lifespan dramatically.

Tube heaters run cool enough that they don't evaporate much material during
their lifespan. I think the heater failure mode is a little different than
a light bulb. The number one cause for heater failure in the AC/DC sets
I've worked on is a heater to cathode short in another tube.

Tubes fail, but they don't usually fail by opening up the heater. Emissions
go down as the tube ages. Heater to cathode shorts are a common problem.
Gas can get into the tube Grids can get damaged by overheating. Tubes
which use soldered pins can have bad connections.

Still, radio tubes are generally reliable. I think small signal tubes have
been estimated to have an average lifespan of 50,000 hours, longer if you
can accecpt reduced performance. My Hallicrafters SX-99 (1957) still has
all it's original tubes, and they all work fine.

Frank Dresser





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