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m II October 13th 04 04:04 PM

Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?



Therein might lie the key!



Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin
reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a
subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy
matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control
numbers of your web cruising.

The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others...




mike

dxAce October 13th 04 04:07 PM



m II wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?



Therein might lie the key!


Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin
reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a
subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy
matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control
numbers of your web cruising.

The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others...


But... it's not your home is it, 'tard boy?

Keep buying those leaky, rusty submarines that your 'canoe' navy doesn't know
how to operate.

LMAO.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



T. Early October 13th 04 04:16 PM


"m II" wrote in message
news:Atbbd.36945$663.20268@edtnps84...
Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?



Therein might lie the key!



Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin
reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need

a
subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy
matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control
numbers of your web cruising.

The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a

Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the

others...


I think you left out a few things that a Stalinist state does that the
U.S. does not do.



Sir Cumferenc October 13th 04 05:56 PM

Al Patrick wrote:



BDK wrote:

In article AZ0bd.4101$Rp4.3913@trnddc01, honus1
@earthlink.net.is.invalid says...

"BDK" wrote in message
...

In article xt0bd.4090$Rp4.2255@trnddc01, honus1
@earthlink.net.is.invalid says...


snip

Al, sometimes you really frighten me.




Sometimes??


It's hard to be scared when I'm LMAO. ;)



The scary part is that Al isn't laughing!

BDK



Should I remind you if/when it happens?


*IF* it happens, please do.


Sir Cumferenc October 13th 04 05:58 PM

m II wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?




Therein might lie the key!



The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others...


Can you post some sources of these independent news web sites around the
world being shut down by the US government?


BDK October 13th 04 06:35 PM

In article ,
says...


BDK wrote:

In article AZ0bd.4101$Rp4.3913@trnddc01, honus1
@earthlink.net.is.invalid says...

"BDK" wrote in message
...

In article xt0bd.4090$Rp4.2255@trnddc01, honus1
says...

snip

Al, sometimes you really frighten me.




Sometimes??

It's hard to be scared when I'm LMAO. ;)



The scary part is that Al isn't laughing!

BDK


Should I remind you if/when it happens?


Sure, feel free, IF it happens..

BDK

Brenda Ann Dyer October 13th 04 09:43 PM


"Sir Cumferenc" wrote in message
...
m II wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?



Therein might lie the key!



The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others...


Can you post some sources of these independent news web sites around the
world being shut down by the US government?



I have lost the original link, but here's one of the many sites that mirror
the following article, along with related links.

http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/190952.html

From the IndyMedia website:

Thursday morning, US authorities issued a federal order to Rackspace
ordering them to hand over Indymedia web servers to the requesting agency.
Rackspace, which provides hosting services for more that 20 Indymedia sites
at its London facility, complied and turned over the requested servers,
effectively removing those sites from the internet.

Since the subpoena was issued to Rackspace and not to Indymedia, the reasons
for this action are still unknown to Indymedia. Talking to Indymedia
volunteers, Rackspace stated that "they cannot provide Indymedia with any
information regarding the order." ISPs have received gag orders in similar
situations which prevent them from updating the concerned parties on what is
happening.

It is unclear to Indymedia how and why a server that is outside the US
jurisdiction can be seized by US authorities.

At the same time an additional server was taken down at Rackspace which
provided streaming radio to several radio stations, BLAG (linux distro), and
a handful of miscellanous things.

The last few months have seen numerous attacks on independent media by the
US Federal Government. In August the Secret Service used a subpoena in an
attempt to disrupt the NYC IMC before the RNC by trying to get IP logs from
an ISP in the US and the Netherlands. Last month the FCC shut down community
radio stations around the US. Two weeks ago the FBI requested that Indymedia
takes down a post on the Nantes IMC that had a photo of some undercover
Swiss police and IMC volunteers in Seattle were visited by the FBI on the
same issue. On the other hand, Indymedia and other independent media
organisations were successfull with their victories for example against
Diebold and the Patroit Act. Today however, the US authorities shut down
IMCs around the world.

The list of affected local media collectives includes Ambazonia, Uruguay,
Andorra, Poland, Western Massachusetts, Nice, Nantes, Lilles, Marseille (all
France), Euskal Herria (Basque Country), Liege, East and West Vlaanderen,
Antwerpen (all Belgium), Belgrade, Portugal, Prague, Galiza, Italy, Brazil,
UK, part of the Germany site, and the global Indymedia Radio site.



Brian Hill October 13th 04 10:11 PM


"Frank White" wrote in message

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?



And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too.


--
73 and good DXing.
Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire!
Zumbrota, Southern MN
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/



Brian Hill October 13th 04 10:18 PM


"m II" wrote in message


Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin
reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a
subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy
matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control
numbers of your web cruising.

The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others...




mike



Don't worry so much Mike.

Brian the Sinner!



Al Patrick October 13th 04 10:43 PM

Brian Hill wrote:

"Frank White" wrote in message


Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?




And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too.



True. But you'll be surprised how many people will just accept whatever
comes over that one-eyed monster in their living room.


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