Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?


Therein might lie the key!


Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin
reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a
subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy
matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control
numbers of your web cruising.

The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others...




mike

m II wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?


Therein might lie the key!

Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin
reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a
subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy
matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control
numbers of your web cruising.

The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others...

But... it's not your home is it, 'tard boy?

Keep buying those leaky, rusty submarines that your 'canoe' navy doesn't know
how to operate.

LMAO.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"m II" wrote in message
news:Atbbd.36945$663.20268@edtnps84...
Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?


Therein might lie the key!


Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin
reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need
a
subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy
matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control
numbers of your web cruising.

The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a
Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the
others...


I think you left out a few things that a Stalinist state does that the
U.S. does not do.

m II wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?



Therein might lie the key!


The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others...

Can you post some sources of these independent news web sites around the
world being shut down by the US government?

"Sir Cumferenc" wrote in message
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m II wrote:

Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?



Therein might lie the key!


The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others...

Can you post some sources of these independent news web sites around the
world being shut down by the US government?


I have lost the original link, but here's one of the many sites that mirror
the following article, along with related links.

http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/190952.html

From the IndyMedia website:

Thursday morning, US authorities issued a federal order to Rackspace
ordering them to hand over Indymedia web servers to the requesting agency.
Rackspace, which provides hosting services for more that 20 Indymedia sites
at its London facility, complied and turned over the requested servers,
effectively removing those sites from the internet.

Since the subpoena was issued to Rackspace and not to Indymedia, the reasons
for this action are still unknown to Indymedia. Talking to Indymedia
volunteers, Rackspace stated that "they cannot provide Indymedia with any
information regarding the order." ISPs have received gag orders in similar
situations which prevent them from updating the concerned parties on what is
happening.

It is unclear to Indymedia how and why a server that is outside the US
jurisdiction can be seized by US authorities.

At the same time an additional server was taken down at Rackspace which
provided streaming radio to several radio stations, BLAG (linux distro), and
a handful of miscellanous things.

The last few months have seen numerous attacks on independent media by the
US Federal Government. In August the Secret Service used a subpoena in an
attempt to disrupt the NYC IMC before the RNC by trying to get IP logs from
an ISP in the US and the Netherlands. Last month the FCC shut down community
radio stations around the US. Two weeks ago the FBI requested that Indymedia
takes down a post on the Nantes IMC that had a photo of some undercover
Swiss police and IMC volunteers in Seattle were visited by the FBI on the
same issue. On the other hand, Indymedia and other independent media
organisations were successfull with their victories for example against
Diebold and the Patroit Act. Today however, the US authorities shut down
IMCs around the world.

The list of affected local media collectives includes Ambazonia, Uruguay,
Andorra, Poland, Western Massachusetts, Nice, Nantes, Lilles, Marseille (all
France), Euskal Herria (Basque Country), Liege, East and West Vlaanderen,
Antwerpen (all Belgium), Belgrade, Portugal, Prague, Galiza, Italy, Brazil,
UK, part of the Germany site, and the global Indymedia Radio site.

"m II" wrote in message


Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin
reception? What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a
subscription. If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy
matter to trace who is listening to what...just like the IP control
numbers of your web cruising.

The US government recently shutting down independent news web sites
around the world doesn't look too good either. This is what a Stalinist
state does, not the home of Jefferson, Franklin and all the others...




mike


Don't worry so much Mike.

Brian the Sinner!

Brian Hill wrote:


Don't worry so much Mike.

Brian the Sinner!


Well! That is certainly a good step in your recovery. Admission of fault
is of the greatest importance in becoming the well rounded and liked
individuals we all aspire to be. It's work(1), but well worth it.

Believe me, I know! It took me at least three weeks to attain the level
of near perfection I enjoy now. With a bit more work, you too will
ascend to these lofty Olympian peaks.

We can wonder at the aimless wanderings of the unenlightened masses as
they confusedly stumble around our Mountain of Enlightenment.(2)

Look! I can see dxEh? down there now...ha...he's drunk again! I can't
blame him. He just found out that the deal he got on the last shipment
of fifty thousand .223 rounds was so cheap because the commies used
mercury fulminate primers. The EPA will surely make him clean it all up
after the next killing spree he goes on.



mike


(1) ..but NOT 'Bush' hard work. **REAL** hard work!
(2) Better than a Prayer Tower anyday.

"m II" wrote in message
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Al Patrick wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?


Therein might lie the key!


Is this why the broadband over powerlines is getting all set to ruin
reception?

It creates broadband noise in the vicinity of power lines.

What about the new digital broadcast technology? You need a subscription.

Depends. IBOC, the digital capability being added to AM and FM in the US, is
free.

Satellite radio subscribers have addressable receivers which store
activation data and update it off the air. There is no key card.

If it's an encrypted key card used, then it's an easy matter to trace who
is listening to what...just like the IP control numbers of your web
cruising.

Nope. Satellite radio is one way, and only receives.

"Frank White" wrote in message

Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?


And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too.


--
73 and good DXing.
Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire!
Zumbrota, Southern MN
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/

Brian Hill wrote:

"Frank White" wrote in message


Just out of curiosity, how would that stop those of us with
shortwave radios from tuning into foreign newscasts and finding
out what's going on?



And Hams all over the place will be reporting what they see too.



True. But you'll be surprised how many people will just accept whatever
comes over that one-eyed monster in their living room.