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lsmyer October 15th 04 09:49 PM

Bye bye sleaze ball Bill O'Reilly
 
I am a life-long conservative and radio freak, but I've never cared for
BO'R -- either on the radio, or on TV.

To be honest, I put him in the same category as Howard Stern. And that's not
a very good category in my book.

My favorites on the radio a Laura Ingraham, Glen Beck, Matt Drudge,
Michael Savage, Lucianne Goldberg, Sean Hannity, Phil Hendrie, Art Bell, and
Rush Limbaugh

I do not like listening to Dr Laura, Dr Dean Edell, Al Franken, Bill
O'Reilly, or Howard Stern.



Diverd4777 October 15th 04 10:53 PM

In article . net, "Stephen
M.H. Lawrence" writes:


But, wait a minute; I thought Liberals thought of themselves as
non-judgmental???


Sexual Harrasment is illegal;

If Bill O'Reilly engaged in same , He was Breaking The Law ...
Any company that allowed such behavior to continue
would be Breaking The Law ...

At FOX, BBC or NPR

- Illegal

- will be interesting to see how it all plays out ;
and what rehab he goes to

Dan / NYC



JuLiE Dxer October 15th 04 11:07 PM

Yes, but who do you despise the most from that "do not like" list?

I personally can't tolerate Dr. Laura.
She's an idiot beyond measure.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:49:13 -0400, "lsmyer"
wrote:

I am a life-long conservative and radio freak, but I've never cared for
BO'R -- either on the radio, or on TV.

To be honest, I put him in the same category as Howard Stern. And that's not
a very good category in my book.

My favorites on the radio a Laura Ingraham, Glen Beck, Matt Drudge,
Michael Savage, Lucianne Goldberg, Sean Hannity, Phil Hendrie, Art Bell, and
Rush Limbaugh

I do not like listening to Dr Laura, Dr Dean Edell, Al Franken, Bill
O'Reilly, or Howard Stern.



T. Early October 15th 04 11:14 PM


"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...
In article . net,

"Stephen
M.H. Lawrence" writes:


But, wait a minute; I thought Liberals thought of themselves as
non-judgmental???


Sexual Harrasment is illegal;


Sexual harassment is not a crime, if you mean "illegal" in the usual
sense.


If Bill O'Reilly engaged in same , He was Breaking The Law ...
Any company that allowed such behavior to continue
would be Breaking The Law ...


Also untrue as a blanket statement.

At FOX, BBC or NPR

- Illegal


See above.


- will be interesting to see how it all plays out ;
and what rehab he goes to


Why should he go to any "rehab" until we actually know what went down?
Based on what I've heard so far there are a lot more questins
about -her- story than about him. But then again, she's not on Fox.



Diverd4777 October 15th 04 11:34 PM


On my Dislike list are

Rush ( Dumb & Self Confident)

Dr. Laura ( Preaches religous conservative, acts Libertarian )

Howard Stern ( DULL ...! )


In article , JuLiE Dxer
writes:


Yes, but who do you despise the most from that "do not like" list?

I personally can't tolerate Dr. Laura.
She's an idiot beyond measure.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:49:13 -0400, "lsmyer"
wrote:

I am a life-long conservative and radio freak, but I've never cared for
BO'R -- either on the radio, or on TV.

To be honest, I put him in the same category as Howard Stern. And that's not


a very good category in my book.

My favorites on the radio a Laura Ingraham, Glen Beck, Matt Drudge,
Michael Savage, Lucianne Goldberg, Sean Hannity, Phil Hendrie, Art Bell, and


Rush Limbaugh

I do not like listening to Dr Laura, Dr Dean Edell, Al Franken, Bill
O'Reilly, or Howard Stern.




Pilotbutteradio October 16th 04 02:09 AM

Very hard to pick a most despised! I agree with Dr. Laura in some instances,
but her attitude is terrible, and I find her very abusive. Dr. Dean is a
typical liberal slimeball, and Franken is just a moron. Have not really
listened to Stern, but I am sure I would find plenty not to like.
The new liberal here localy is Ed Shultz. Another blowhard, but at least he
has some energy.

I have listened to Rush since the beggining, but I think my favorite is Sean
Hannity. We just got Laura Ingraham, and I am really enjoying her show as
well.

That is my 50 cents.


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"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message
...
Yes, but who do you despise the most from that "do not like" list?

I personally can't tolerate Dr. Laura.
She's an idiot beyond measure.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:49:13 -0400, "lsmyer"
wrote:

I am a life-long conservative and radio freak, but I've never cared for
BO'R -- either on the radio, or on TV.

To be honest, I put him in the same category as Howard Stern. And that's
not
a very good category in my book.

My favorites on the radio a Laura Ingraham, Glen Beck, Matt Drudge,
Michael Savage, Lucianne Goldberg, Sean Hannity, Phil Hendrie, Art Bell,
and
Rush Limbaugh

I do not like listening to Dr Laura, Dr Dean Edell, Al Franken, Bill
O'Reilly, or Howard Stern.






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lsmyer October 16th 04 02:51 AM

All five on my "do not like" list are pretty much equal. And maybe I would
add George Noory to the list because he is boring and puts me to sleep.

I used to get myself in trouble when Art Bell was full-time on Coast to
Coast because I would stay awake to listen to him. Now that Noory does the
weekday show, there's no reason for me to stay up late during the week. At
least I can get my Art Bell fix on the weekend, but it was nice having him
all over the radio every night of the week.

I guess I'm not alone. When Art was still doing the show, most stations
carried the preceding day's last two or three hours as a taped pre-cursor to
the live show. That was nice. But after Noory took over, I guess ratings
have dropped to the point that reruns of Coast to Coast aren't that much in
demand any longer.



T. Early October 16th 04 03:08 AM


"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
All five on my "do not like" list are pretty much equal. And maybe I

would
add George Noory to the list because he is boring and puts me to

sleep.

I used to get myself in trouble when Art Bell was full-time on Coast

to
Coast because I would stay awake to listen to him. Now that Noory

does the
weekday show, there's no reason for me to stay up late during the

week. At
least I can get my Art Bell fix on the weekend, but it was nice

having him
all over the radio every night of the week.

I guess I'm not alone. When Art was still doing the show, most

stations
carried the preceding day's last two or three hours as a taped

pre-cursor to
the live show. That was nice. But after Noory took over, I guess

ratings
have dropped to the point that reruns of Coast to Coast aren't that

much in
demand any longer.


Noory claims ratings are up, something I find hard to believe. When
Alex Jones and Steve Quayle are on a show's "current events" panel,
there's a problem.





m II October 16th 04 07:46 AM

Diverd4777 wrote:

Dr. Laura ( Preaches religous conservative, acts Libertarian )



I did a Google search on Dr. Laura jpg and got this. It looks like a
soft porn site. The 'good' doctor's pictures look real enough, though.
I'd read rumours these were out there. Looks like some disgruntled
'friend' got revenge.



http://www.findallcelebs.com/picture...age=&pid=65312




mike

Madelin McKinnon October 16th 04 05:05 PM

I think the low blows are actually being thrown by the Cheney family
(specifically Lynne) and the republicans. It was pretty convenient for
Lynne and Dick to bring up their daughter when it makes Bush and
Cheney look "compassionate." It would be one thing if they never
brought it up in any speech or anything that furthers their campaign
with moderates...but they have.

For them to publicly talk about Mary being gay, then to turn around
and say that it was a "low blow" or inappropriate should actually clue
the moderates in on how they REALLY feel about gays and lesbians--that
we love 'em but we would rather they stay in their 2X2 closets. We
love 'em, but we don't talk about 'em (unless it will make people
think WE are compassionate). It's like it is some kind of "painful"
subject that shouldn't be raised instead of a simple fact of life.

Would they feel so indignant if Mary had found the cure for cancer and
Kerry mentioned that? Would they feel so indignant if Mary was a
heterosexual and just had a baby and Kerry had mentioned that? Would
they feel so indignant if Mary had MS and Kerry mentioned it and said
we need to do more research etc. etc...

NO, of course they wouldn't. So all this righteous indignation that he
took a "low blow" or used "taaawdry tactics" is simply a symptom that
they were lying through their teeth when they claim not to be ashamed
of her. I think if I were Mary, I would actually be devastated by
their reaction--it is like she is something "unmentionable" and
something to be so ashamed of that no one but her family is ever
allowed to mention her.

I'm sorry that Mom and Dad Cheney are so ashamed of their daughter
being gay that the mere mention of it makes John Kerry a "bad man."
THEY are the ones that I lost whatever shred of respect I had left
for.

Gay people are deeply hurt when their parents react the way the
Cheney's did. If they were really proud of her they would have reacted
differently. For instance if she had been a doctor and Kerry had
brought that up they would not have reacted the way they did.


http://www.geocities.com/jacknichols123/johnjohn.htm

T. Early October 16th 04 05:20 PM


"Madelin McKinnon" wrote in message
om...
I think the low blows are actually being thrown by the Cheney family
(specifically Lynne) and the republicans. It was pretty convenient

for
Lynne and Dick to bring up their daughter when it makes Bush and
Cheney look "compassionate." It would be one thing if they never
brought it up in any speech or anything that furthers their campaign
with moderates...but they have.


Please don't pollute this excellent OT thread on "sleazeball" O'Reilly
and his antics with a double OT rant about Kerry' gaffe at the debate
that polling now shows 2/3 of Americans found inappropriate. You've
obviously been waiting for a spot to launch this diatribe but the
ignorance shown--including the assertion that the Cheney's make an
issue of their daughter when it suits them--is simply stunning and the
ultimate in ham-handed rationalization.



Brian Hill October 16th 04 05:49 PM


"T. Early" wrote in message
...

"Madelin McKinnon" wrote in message
om...
I think the low blows are actually being thrown by the Cheney family
(specifically Lynne) and the republicans. It was pretty convenient

for
Lynne and Dick to bring up their daughter when it makes Bush and
Cheney look "compassionate." It would be one thing if they never
brought it up in any speech or anything that furthers their campaign
with moderates...but they have.


Please don't pollute this excellent OT thread on "sleazeball" O'Reilly
and his antics with a double OT rant about Kerry' gaffe at the debate
that polling now shows 2/3 of Americans found inappropriate. You've
obviously been waiting for a spot to launch this diatribe but the
ignorance shown--including the assertion that the Cheney's make an
issue of their daughter when it suits them--is simply stunning and the
ultimate in ham-handed rationalization.



I couldn't have said it better Mr. T. Thanks


--
73 and good DXing.
Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire!
Zumbrota, Southern MN
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/



Lucky October 16th 04 06:25 PM

Figures you'd be for bush....it explains a lot to me.....what are you 75
years old?

Lucky

"T. Early" wrote in message
...

"Madelin McKinnon" wrote in message
om...
I think the low blows are actually being thrown by the Cheney family
(specifically Lynne) and the republicans. It was pretty convenient

for
Lynne and Dick to bring up their daughter when it makes Bush and
Cheney look "compassionate." It would be one thing if they never
brought it up in any speech or anything that furthers their campaign
with moderates...but they have.


Please don't pollute this excellent OT thread on "sleazeball" O'Reilly
and his antics with a double OT rant about Kerry' gaffe at the debate
that polling now shows 2/3 of Americans found inappropriate. You've
obviously been waiting for a spot to launch this diatribe but the
ignorance shown--including the assertion that the Cheney's make an
issue of their daughter when it suits them--is simply stunning and the
ultimate in ham-handed rationalization.





Brian Hill October 16th 04 06:31 PM


"Lucky" wrote in message
...
Figures you'd be for bush....it explains a lot to me.....what are you 75
years old?

Lucky

"T. Early" wrote in message
...

"Madelin McKinnon" wrote in message
om...
I think the low blows are actually being thrown by the Cheney family
(specifically Lynne) and the republicans. It was pretty convenient

for
Lynne and Dick to bring up their daughter when it makes Bush and
Cheney look "compassionate." It would be one thing if they never
brought it up in any speech or anything that furthers their campaign
with moderates...but they have.


Please don't pollute this excellent OT thread on "sleazeball" O'Reilly
and his antics with a double OT rant about Kerry' gaffe at the debate
that polling now shows 2/3 of Americans found inappropriate. You've
obviously been waiting for a spot to launch this diatribe but the
ignorance shown--including the assertion that the Cheney's make an
issue of their daughter when it suits them--is simply stunning and the
ultimate in ham-handed rationalization.





You don't have to be a Bush supporter to see that was a load of B.S..

B.H.



T. Early October 16th 04 07:09 PM


"Lucky" wrote in message
...
Figures you'd be for bush....it explains a lot to me.....what are

you 75
years old?

Lucky


Thanks for the top post. Funny, I thought only 75-year olds did that.

Since it explains a lot, how about filling the rest of us in on what
it explains. Why does it "figure"?


"T. Early" wrote in message
...

"Madelin McKinnon" wrote in message
om...
I think the low blows are actually being thrown by the Cheney

family
(specifically Lynne) and the republicans. It was pretty

convenient
for
Lynne and Dick to bring up their daughter when it makes Bush and
Cheney look "compassionate." It would be one thing if they never
brought it up in any speech or anything that furthers their

campaign
with moderates...but they have.


Please don't pollute this excellent OT thread on "sleazeball"

O'Reilly
and his antics with a double OT rant about Kerry' gaffe at the

debate
that polling now shows 2/3 of Americans found inappropriate.

You've
obviously been waiting for a spot to launch this diatribe but the
ignorance shown--including the assertion that the Cheney's make an
issue of their daughter when it suits them--is simply stunning and

the
ultimate in ham-handed rationalization.







Mike Terry October 16th 04 07:32 PM

Hi all,

When is he on shortwave?

Thanks

Mike



JuLiE Dxer October 16th 04 11:06 PM

Howard Stern doesn't phase me a bit. Often, if I tune across him with
the car radio I don't find what he's doing too interesting. From my
brief visits to Stern's work he seems to do a lot of the same stuff
over and over.

Rush Limbaugh can be interesting. He seems more realistic than the
bleeding heart liberals on-the-air but does exhibit a very clear bias
and subjective view on events even though his side does seem to favor
reality more often than not. His lack of objective reporting and
relevent commentary does get annoying as it happens too often. Having
typed this commentary, I'd listen to his banter over any of the "do
not like list" every single time.

Hopefully, the political posting idiots wont jump in on this... We're
getting close to straying from newgroup's focus :)...


On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:09:07 -0700, "Pilotbutteradio"
wrote:

Very hard to pick a most despised! I agree with Dr. Laura in some instances,
but her attitude is terrible, and I find her very abusive. Dr. Dean is a
typical liberal slimeball, and Franken is just a moron. Have not really
listened to Stern, but I am sure I would find plenty not to like.
The new liberal here localy is Ed Shultz. Another blowhard, but at least he
has some energy.

I have listened to Rush since the beggining, but I think my favorite is Sean
Hannity. We just got Laura Ingraham, and I am really enjoying her show as
well.

That is my 50 cents.



JuLiE Dxer October 16th 04 11:10 PM

You can catch Art on 3840 kHz almost every single night. I don't
listen too much to him while he's at work. I mostly interact with him
via HF; I even get the oddball e-mails from him of strange things. I
can't speak too much of his on-the-job behavior, but from my
interactions with him via amateur radio the last 9 years I've noticed
he sure does exaggerate on a very frequent basis. Everything's
"amazing" or "unbelievable" or "the greatest thing ever." That does
get annoying.



On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:51:17 -0400, "lsmyer"
wrote:

All five on my "do not like" list are pretty much equal. And maybe I would
add George Noory to the list because he is boring and puts me to sleep.

I used to get myself in trouble when Art Bell was full-time on Coast to
Coast because I would stay awake to listen to him. Now that Noory does the
weekday show, there's no reason for me to stay up late during the week. At
least I can get my Art Bell fix on the weekend, but it was nice having him
all over the radio every night of the week.

I guess I'm not alone. When Art was still doing the show, most stations
carried the preceding day's last two or three hours as a taped pre-cursor to
the live show. That was nice. But after Noory took over, I guess ratings
have dropped to the point that reruns of Coast to Coast aren't that much in
demand any longer.



JuLiE Dxer October 16th 04 11:11 PM

Is this a political newsgroup or shortwave radio newsgroup?

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:25:46 -0400, "Lucky"
wrote:

Figures you'd be for bush....it explains a lot to me.....what are you 75
years old?

Lucky

"T. Early" wrote in message
...

"Madelin McKinnon" wrote in message
om...
I think the low blows are actually being thrown by the Cheney family
(specifically Lynne) and the republicans. It was pretty convenient

for
Lynne and Dick to bring up their daughter when it makes Bush and
Cheney look "compassionate." It would be one thing if they never
brought it up in any speech or anything that furthers their campaign
with moderates...but they have.


Please don't pollute this excellent OT thread on "sleazeball" O'Reilly
and his antics with a double OT rant about Kerry' gaffe at the debate
that polling now shows 2/3 of Americans found inappropriate. You've
obviously been waiting for a spot to launch this diatribe but the
ignorance shown--including the assertion that the Cheney's make an
issue of their daughter when it suits them--is simply stunning and the
ultimate in ham-handed rationalization.





bubba ho-tep October 16th 04 11:15 PM

"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message
...

Rush Limbaugh can be interesting.


Of course he's interesting, he's a delusional drug-addict who hallucinates
on air.



clifto October 17th 04 02:53 AM

lsmyer wrote:
My favorites on the radio a Laura Ingraham, Glen Beck, Matt Drudge,
Michael Savage, Lucianne Goldberg, Sean Hannity, Phil Hendrie, Art Bell, and
Rush Limbaugh


I liked Savage until recently, when every time I turn on his show he's
putting down both Kerry and Bush. Never heard Ingraham except in tv
interviews; never heard Goldberg or Hendrie. Like Art Bell, not much
for his replacement.

I do not like listening to Dr Laura, Dr Dean Edell, Al Franken, Bill
O'Reilly, or Howard Stern.


I like Dr. Laura, and kinda like O'Reilly even if he doesn't share all
my views. Sometimes he turns out clinkers, sometimes he is right on.

--
Most dying mothers say, "I love you, son," or "Take care of your sister."
Why were the last words of Kerry's mother a lecture on integrity?

clifto October 17th 04 03:01 AM

Pilotbutteradio wrote:
Very hard to pick a most despised! I agree with Dr. Laura in some instances,
but her attitude is terrible, and I find her very abusive.


Think about this: she has about three minutes with each caller. Callers
often are in emotional distress as well as several layers of mindf*ck.
I've heard lots of callers who I believe wouldn't have heard a word
DrL said without some brash, unvarnished harsh truth spoken in no
uncertain terms. The fact that she's willing to take the blame for
being the bad guy tells me she's dedicated to helping the people who
call, unlike so many shows before hers that were nothing more than a
showcase for weirdos where the host said soothing nothings to placate
the callers and keep 'em coming.

Listen again, but this time, when you hear her sounding harsh, take a
second and listen to the caller and see if you could *really help* the
caller by being nice instead of honest. You might see what I'm talking
about.

--
Most dying mothers say, "I love you, son," or "Take care of your sister."
Why were the last words of Kerry's mother a lecture on integrity?

clifto October 17th 04 03:10 AM

Brian Hill wrote:
"monsieur sandman" kittens@love.**** wrote in message
...
First Rush Limbaugh gets caught using drugs, and now Bill O'Reilly is
caught watching porno and masturbating while on the phone with his
female producer.


When did masturbation become imoral? The things you learn on usenet.


Haven't seen anything (other than the OP) that actually suggested he
did more than talk dirty, and that much is from the woman who wants
sixty million dollars.

However, to further your education, when a conservative does it, it's
masturbation and it's immoral. When a liberal does it, even in front
of a classroom full of third-graders, it's performance art and it's
perfectly moral. See?

--
Most dying mothers say, "I love you, son," or "Take care of your sister."
Why were the last words of Kerry's mother a lecture on integrity?

Brian Hill October 17th 04 03:21 AM


"clifto" wrote in message
...
Brian Hill wrote:
"monsieur sandman" kittens@love.**** wrote in message
...
First Rush Limbaugh gets caught using drugs, and now Bill O'Reilly is
caught watching porno and masturbating while on the phone with his
female producer.


When did masturbation become imoral? The things you learn on usenet.


Haven't seen anything (other than the OP) that actually suggested he
did more than talk dirty, and that much is from the woman who wants
sixty million dollars.

However, to further your education, when a conservative does it, it's
masturbation and it's immoral. When a liberal does it, even in front
of a classroom full of third-graders, it's performance art and it's
perfectly moral. See?

--
Most dying mothers say, "I love you, son," or "Take care of your sister."
Why were the last words of Kerry's mother a lecture on integrity?


No education needed, just smarting off.

B.H.



Honus October 17th 04 03:34 AM


"clifto" wrote in message
...
Pilotbutteradio wrote:
Very hard to pick a most despised! I agree with Dr. Laura in some

instances,
but her attitude is terrible, and I find her very abusive.


Think about this: she has about three minutes with each caller. Callers
often are in emotional distress as well as several layers of mindf*ck.
I've heard lots of callers who I believe wouldn't have heard a word
DrL said without some brash, unvarnished harsh truth spoken in no
uncertain terms. The fact that she's willing to take the blame for
being the bad guy tells me she's dedicated to helping the people who
call, unlike so many shows before hers that were nothing more than a
showcase for weirdos where the host said soothing nothings to placate
the callers and keep 'em coming.

Listen again, but this time, when you hear her sounding harsh, take a
second and listen to the caller and see if you could *really help* the
caller by being nice instead of honest. You might see what I'm talking
about.


Just how much good would a -real- professional with a real interest in their
patients expect to do in -three- minutes regardless of the approach they
take? And harsh can be flat out damaging, requiring a judgement call that
she's in no position to make in these anonymous cases. I admittedly don't
listen to her, but I sure wonder just how altruistic she really is.

I just pray that her and Dr. Phil never breed. Talk about insufferable.



Brenda Ann Dyer October 17th 04 05:14 AM


"Honus" wrote in message
news:bTkcd.1549$7d7.958@trnddc04...

"clifto" wrote in message
...
Pilotbutteradio wrote:
Very hard to pick a most despised! I agree with Dr. Laura in some

instances,
but her attitude is terrible, and I find her very abusive.


Think about this: she has about three minutes with each caller. Callers
often are in emotional distress as well as several layers of mindf*ck.
I've heard lots of callers who I believe wouldn't have heard a word
DrL said without some brash, unvarnished harsh truth spoken in no
uncertain terms. The fact that she's willing to take the blame for
being the bad guy tells me she's dedicated to helping the people who
call, unlike so many shows before hers that were nothing more than a
showcase for weirdos where the host said soothing nothings to placate
the callers and keep 'em coming.

Listen again, but this time, when you hear her sounding harsh, take a
second and listen to the caller and see if you could *really help* the
caller by being nice instead of honest. You might see what I'm talking
about.


Just how much good would a -real- professional with a real interest in

their
patients expect to do in -three- minutes regardless of the approach they
take? And harsh can be flat out damaging, requiring a judgement call that
she's in no position to make in these anonymous cases. I admittedly don't
listen to her, but I sure wonder just how altruistic she really is.


She's there for the 'entertainment value', like anyone else on the radio or
TV. She's downright rude to many of her callers, and the way she treats
some of the more despondant ones, I wouldn't doubt that some have commited
suicide after calling her looking for help.




Pilotbutteradio October 17th 04 05:27 AM

I do know what you mean. I think there is a lot of what you mention, and I
also think she goes over the edge a lot. I do think she is helpful to many
people. She just irritates me. It's a personality conflict LOL.

"clifto" wrote in message
...
Pilotbutteradio wrote:
Very hard to pick a most despised! I agree with Dr. Laura in some
instances,
but her attitude is terrible, and I find her very abusive.


Think about this: she has about three minutes with each caller. Callers
often are in emotional distress as well as several layers of mindf*ck.
I've heard lots of callers who I believe wouldn't have heard a word
DrL said without some brash, unvarnished harsh truth spoken in no
uncertain terms. The fact that she's willing to take the blame for
being the bad guy tells me she's dedicated to helping the people who
call, unlike so many shows before hers that were nothing more than a
showcase for weirdos where the host said soothing nothings to placate
the callers and keep 'em coming.

Listen again, but this time, when you hear her sounding harsh, take a
second and listen to the caller and see if you could *really help* the
caller by being nice instead of honest. You might see what I'm talking
about.

--
Most dying mothers say, "I love you, son," or "Take care of your sister."
Why were the last words of Kerry's mother a lecture on integrity?





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Lucky October 17th 04 05:29 AM

After being here for a while, I think it's a group of old men who can't get
it up anymore, have nothing to do, their asses are glued to their computer
seat, they live here, are depressed, on medications, have mental problems,
and most of them are for bush. How surprising is that?

Lucky

"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message
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Is this a political newsgroup or shortwave radio newsgroup?

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:25:46 -0400, "Lucky"
wrote:

Figures you'd be for bush....it explains a lot to me.....what are you 75
years old?

Lucky

"T. Early" wrote in message
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"Madelin McKinnon" wrote in message
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I think the low blows are actually being thrown by the Cheney family
(specifically Lynne) and the republicans. It was pretty convenient
for
Lynne and Dick to bring up their daughter when it makes Bush and
Cheney look "compassionate." It would be one thing if they never
brought it up in any speech or anything that furthers their campaign
with moderates...but they have.


Please don't pollute this excellent OT thread on "sleazeball" O'Reilly
and his antics with a double OT rant about Kerry' gaffe at the debate
that polling now shows 2/3 of Americans found inappropriate. You've
obviously been waiting for a spot to launch this diatribe but the
ignorance shown--including the assertion that the Cheney's make an
issue of their daughter when it suits them--is simply stunning and the
ultimate in ham-handed rationalization.







Honus October 17th 04 05:30 AM


"Brenda Ann Dyer" wrote in message
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"Honus" wrote in message
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"clifto" wrote in message
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Pilotbutteradio wrote:
Very hard to pick a most despised! I agree with Dr. Laura in some

instances,
but her attitude is terrible, and I find her very abusive.

Think about this: she has about three minutes with each caller.

Callers
often are in emotional distress as well as several layers of mindf*ck.
I've heard lots of callers who I believe wouldn't have heard a word
DrL said without some brash, unvarnished harsh truth spoken in no
uncertain terms. The fact that she's willing to take the blame for
being the bad guy tells me she's dedicated to helping the people who
call, unlike so many shows before hers that were nothing more than a
showcase for weirdos where the host said soothing nothings to placate
the callers and keep 'em coming.

Listen again, but this time, when you hear her sounding harsh, take a
second and listen to the caller and see if you could *really help* the
caller by being nice instead of honest. You might see what I'm talking
about.


Just how much good would a -real- professional with a real interest in

their
patients expect to do in -three- minutes regardless of the approach they
take? And harsh can be flat out damaging, requiring a judgement call

that
she's in no position to make in these anonymous cases. I admittedly

don't
listen to her, but I sure wonder just how altruistic she really is.


She's there for the 'entertainment value', like anyone else on the radio

or
TV. She's downright rude to many of her callers, and the way she treats
some of the more despondant ones, I wouldn't doubt that some have commited
suicide after calling her looking for help.


Exactly my point. I don't believe there's any altruism involved. Therefore,
I think the entire premise of her show is disingenuous at best, and
blatantly harmful at worst. I don't think she's helping as much as she's
probably hurting. I understand the point that time limitations affect her
ability to be "nice"; I just don't agree that justifies being "honest". And
she ought to know better. But then, she's the professional...so maybe she
does. But I kind of don't think so.



Pilotbutteradio October 17th 04 05:30 AM

ROFL ;-)


"clifto" wrote in message
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Brian Hill wrote:
"monsieur sandman" kittens@love.**** wrote in message
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First Rush Limbaugh gets caught using drugs, and now Bill O'Reilly is
caught watching porno and masturbating while on the phone with his
female producer.


When did masturbation become imoral? The things you learn on usenet.


Haven't seen anything (other than the OP) that actually suggested he
did more than talk dirty, and that much is from the woman who wants
sixty million dollars.

However, to further your education, when a conservative does it, it's
masturbation and it's immoral. When a liberal does it, even in front
of a classroom full of third-graders, it's performance art and it's
perfectly moral. See?

--
Most dying mothers say, "I love you, son," or "Take care of your sister."
Why were the last words of Kerry's mother a lecture on integrity?





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Telamon October 17th 04 06:11 AM

In article ,
"Lucky" wrote:

After being here for a while, I think it's a group of old men who can't get
it up anymore, have nothing to do, their asses are glued to their computer
seat, they live here, are depressed, on medications, have mental problems,
and most of them are for bush. How surprising is that?


You sure seem interested in a man's ability to "get it up."

Stop projecting and start taking your medications again. By the way long
term use of anti-depressants can cause you to be suicidal so I hope you
are getting counseling along with the medications.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Lucky October 17th 04 06:21 AM


"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Lucky" wrote:

After being here for a while, I think it's a group of old men who can't
get
it up anymore, have nothing to do, their asses are glued to their
computer
seat, they live here, are depressed, on medications, have mental
problems,
and most of them are for bush. How surprising is that?


You sure seem interested in a man's ability to "get it up."

Stop projecting and start taking your medications again. By the way long
term use of anti-depressants can cause you to be suicidal so I hope you
are getting counseling along with the medications.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California



Hmmm, you seem to know about projecting, therefore I'm sure you are the one
on medications. Hurts to tell people this when you on them yourself huh? But
again, you want bush back in so really that's all I need to know about your
mental composure which is not saying much. Go take your nap...

Lucky



[email protected] October 17th 04 10:43 AM

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:11:38 GMT, JuLiE Dxer
wrote:

Is this a political newsgroup or shortwave radio newsgroup?


What's your guess?


Madelin McKinnon October 17th 04 04:13 PM

The mass delusion that Bush is better at fighting terrorism is belied
by the fact that Bush and Osama Bin laden are in the same boat:

http://nsnews.tripod.com/terrorism.htm

Gray Shockley October 18th 04 02:17 AM

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 1:46:28 -0500, m II wrote
(in message 8t3cd.25879$qU.9098@clgrps13):

Diverd4777 wrote:

Dr. Laura ( Preaches religous conservative, acts Libertarian )



I did a Google search on Dr. Laura jpg and got this. It looks like a
soft porn site. The 'good' doctor's pictures look real enough, though.
I'd read rumours these were out there. Looks like some disgruntled
'friend' got revenge.


An old "boyfriend" if I remember correctly.

She looks very nice; certainly, nothing of which to be ashamed. I've seen a
lot of similar (including my own gilfriend's) on the inside door of military
wall-lockers.

She seems to have been issued the standard equipment.


++ Gray //





http://www.findallcelebs.com/picture...age=&pid=65312




mike




Honus October 18th 04 02:50 AM


"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 1:46:28 -0500, m II wrote
(in message 8t3cd.25879$qU.9098@clgrps13):

Diverd4777 wrote:

Dr. Laura ( Preaches religous conservative, acts Libertarian )



I did a Google search on Dr. Laura jpg and got this. It looks like a
soft porn site. The 'good' doctor's pictures look real enough, though.
I'd read rumours these were out there. Looks like some disgruntled
'friend' got revenge.


An old "boyfriend" if I remember correctly.


That's what I remember as well.

She looks very nice; certainly, nothing of which to be ashamed. I've seen

a
lot of similar (including my own gilfriend's) on the inside door of

military
wall-lockers.

She seems to have been issued the standard equipment.


Thank God. The occasional third breast that I sometimes stumble across
always throws me off my game. ;)



m II October 18th 04 05:01 AM

Honus wrote:

She seems to have been issued the standard equipment.



Thank God. The occasional third breast that I sometimes stumble across
always throws me off my game. ;)





What's a breast, Mister Honus? What kind of game do you play with one?
Is it like Tennis or more like Badminton?




little michael II

Honus October 18th 04 05:18 AM


"m II" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:

She seems to have been issued the standard equipment.



Thank God. The occasional third breast that I sometimes stumble across
always throws me off my game. ;)





What's a breast, Mister Honus? What kind of game do you play with one?


It's a walking game...-walking- abreast is the usual way it's done.

To keep this at an appropriate level for "little michael II", I offer you
this in response to the question:

From www.dictionary.com

a-breast:

1. Side by side: ships docked two abreast.
2. Up to date: keeping abreast of the latest developments.

To keep this on-topic for the newsgroup, I urge you to focus on definition
number two. SW is well suited for that purpose. Also, www.dictionary.com has
a pronunciation guide if you run into any difficulties.

Is it like Tennis or more like Badminton?


Tennis is played with fuzzy balls, and the word "love" is used quite
frequently. Badminton is played with a shuttlecock, or cock for
short...although I hesitate to use the words cock and short in such close
proximity to each other.

So much for keeping it at an appropriate level.




m II October 18th 04 05:34 AM

Honus wrote:

Is it like Tennis or more like Badminton?



Tennis is played with fuzzy balls, and the word "love" is used quite
frequently. Badminton is played with a shuttlecock, or cock for
short...although I hesitate to use the words cock and short in such close
proximity to each other.

So much for keeping it at an appropriate level.



My little sister says you're a lecher, Mister Honus..is that like a
baseball catcher, but with the walking breast game instead?



little michael II


(starting to suspect that something is not quite right here)




Honus October 18th 04 06:12 AM


"m II" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:

Is it like Tennis or more like Badminton?



Tennis is played with fuzzy balls, and the word "love" is used quite
frequently. Badminton is played with a shuttlecock, or cock for
short...although I hesitate to use the words cock and short in such

close
proximity to each other.

So much for keeping it at an appropriate level.



My little sister says you're a lecher, Mister Honus..


You say that like it's a bad thing. It isn't; just ask her. ;)

is that like a
baseball catcher, but with the walking breast game instead?



little michael II


Little Michael, you should probably be asking your dad about these birds and
bees sorts of things. Here's his e-mail addy:



(starting to suspect that something is not quite right here)


Come on...you're quicker on the uptake than -that-!






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