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Old October 15th 04, 11:56 PM
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I was wondering if durring WW2, did people record audio broadcast on
shortwave and if they, what are these recording called and where could I
hear them at?

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Old October 16th 04, 05:54 AM
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I was wondering if durring WW2, did people record audio broadcast on
shortwave and if they, what are these recording called and where could I
hear them at?

73



You may find an archival SW broadcast from that time, but the only
"common man" recorders of that era were wire recorders, and you might
look a l-o-o-o-n-g time to find an accesible library of wire recordings.

But the "war broadcasts" made on SW were repeated in transcribed form
(usually shellac disc) on the AM broadcast networks later in the
evening, and there are lots of recordings of those. Countless people
clustered around their radio console (they all had SW in those days) to
hear Edward R. Murrow during the war.
They could hear him over the networks at typical "late evening news"
times every night, but they could hear the same broadcast hours earlier
in the day via the BBC on shortwave. But it was the same broadcast.

Tony
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SR wrote:

I was wondering if durring WW2, did people record audio broadcast on
shortwave and if they, what are these recording called and where could I
hear them at?

73



You may find an archival SW broadcast from that time, but the only
"common man" recorders of that era were wire recorders, and you might
look a l-o-o-o-n-g time to find an accesible library of wire recordings.

But the "war broadcasts" made on SW were repeated in transcribed form
(usually shellac disc) on the AM broadcast networks later in the
evening, and there are lots of recordings of those. Countless people
clustered around their radio console (they all had SW in those days) to
hear Edward R. Murrow during the war.
They could hear him over the networks at typical "late evening news"
times every night, but they could hear the same broadcast hours earlier
in the day via the BBC on shortwave. But it was the same broadcast.

Tony


You may even find a recording of "The Voice of Doom" from WW2 )

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You may even find a recording of "The Voice of Doom" from WW2 )

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From what I've heard there may only be one air check in existence of Lorne
Greene reading the news on CBC Radio during World War II. He was after all
"just" an announcer (as well as a radio actor) rather than an actual
reporter. What does exist is a lot of material from reporters like Matthew
Halton who were at the front with Canadian troops. Most of the material you
find of this sort is the actual "raw" recordings that Halton and other
reporters made on site using "portable" transcription disk recorders. The
process of getting this material on the air (from say the Italian Front) was
to send the disks to an airbase where transports were flying, fly them to a
shortwave transmitter site in North Africa (Algeria I think) where they'd be
transmitted to London. In London the reports would again be put on disk and
that would be transmitted by shortwave to the CBC.

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SR wrote:

I was wondering if durring WW2, did people record audio broadcast on
shortwave and if they, what are these recording called and where could I
hear them at?


You might want to check with the Smithsonian, in Washington, DC.

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SR wrote:

I was wondering if durring WW2, did people record audio broadcast on
shortwave and if they, what are these recording called and where could I
hear them at?


You might want to check with the Smithsonian, in Washington, DC.



Didn't the government discourage use of SW radios during WWII? I seem to
remember reading where there was some mandate to remove SW reception
capabilities from radios during that time?



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SR wrote:

I was wondering if durring WW2, did people record audio broadcast on
shortwave and if they, what are these recording called and where could I
hear them at?


You might want to check with the Smithsonian, in Washington, DC.


Didn't the government discourage use of SW radios during WWII? I seem to
remember reading where there was some mandate to remove SW reception
capabilities from radios during that time?


They shut down amateur radio transmitting at the time, however I do not think
that receiving was curtailed.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:

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SR wrote:

I was wondering if durring WW2, did people record audio broadcast on
shortwave and if they, what are these recording called and where could I
hear them at?

You might want to check with the Smithsonian, in Washington, DC.


Didn't the government discourage use of SW radios during WWII? I seem to
remember reading where there was some mandate to remove SW reception
capabilities from radios during that time?


They shut down amateur radio transmitting at the time, however I do not think
that receiving was curtailed.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



This would make sense to me, too. There were few if any radios made for
the consumer during the war - all industry was given over to "war work"
for the "duration". But hundreds of thousands of people already had
consoles and even some portables in their homes with SW capabilities,
and I know of no restriction - and it would have been unenforcable
anyway - that that government made on listening to foreign broadcasts
during that time.

Tony
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Old October 18th 04, 08:44 AM
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They shut down amateur radio transmitting at the time, however I do not think
that receiving was curtailed.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I have two issues of that Jan 42 QST. In the center of it, it had a 4
page yellow paper announcement to that effect. I activated the
scanning device here in studio X, and ran off copies of all 4 pages.
These are reduced quality to quicken d/l speeds, but should still be
quite readable. They are really yellow, but I scanned in b/w to also
reduce the file size. This will give an idea of the amateur mindset at
that time. BTW, in some countries, I believe even receiving was
frowned upon. Mainly because the osc stages in the radios could be
used to track the location of the receiver, and theoretically could be
used by the enemy for tracking purposes. But I think that was more in
Europe, than in the U.S. IE: England was pretty strict, and have been
for years. They used to use that osc tracking method to hunt down
receivers that hadn't paid the radio tax, or whatever they
required...Same for TV's I think.

The QST images are in my ISP "briefcase" at :
http://briefcase.wt.net/cgi-perl/Lis...26b32620cf18ea

They are the four files named WW2-??.jpg....MK
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Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:

Didn't the government discourage use of SW radios during WWII? I seem to
remember reading where there was some mandate to remove SW reception
capabilities from radios during that time?


Amateur radio was not allowed during the war. SW transceivers were
confiscated from 'suspicious' citizens, particularly those of German and
Japanese ancestry. The government used radio direction finding aircraft
to locate the source of clandestine SW transmissions. I heard a story
from a local veteran about a military plane flying over the area looking
for a transmitter. A few days later they found the person who was a
German sympathizer. I imagine he spent the rest of the war in a prison
camp.


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