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Michael October 23rd 04 01:16 AM

LDE Long deleayed echoe ???
 
Quick question here...

I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk
about it on Coast To Coast.

I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment
itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation
condition.

My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of
solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known
observations of this phenomenon.

Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102
PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com



dxAce October 23rd 04 01:23 AM



Michael wrote:

Quick question here...

I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk
about it on Coast To Coast.

I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment
itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation
condition.

My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of
solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known
observations of this phenomenon.

Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated.


I can remember operating CW in 1970 or 1971 in the 40 meter band and being able
to un-key and hear my own signal, or part of it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA






Michael October 23rd 04 01:30 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

Quick question here...

I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk
about it on Coast To Coast.

I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment
itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation
condition.

My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of
solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known
observations of this phenomenon.

Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated.


I can remember operating CW in 1970 or 1971 in the 40 meter band and being
able
to un-key and hear my own signal, or part of it.


No kiddin' ??? What the heck could it be, atmospherically speaking ???
Really... That is some screwy stuff... Nothing adds up.

Michael

dxAce
Michigan
USA








JuLiE Dxer October 23rd 04 06:20 AM


There are a couple of guys on 3840 kHz that experience LDE often.

I, myself, was experiencing a mild echo where I'd catch the last
second or so of my last transmission on one night on 75m. Other
signals on the band were frequented with echoes too. It was pretty
bizarre.

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:16:25 GMT, "Michael"
wrote:

Quick question here...

I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk
about it on Coast To Coast.

I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment
itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation
condition.

My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of
solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known
observations of this phenomenon.

Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated.



dxAce October 23rd 04 07:04 AM



Michael wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:

Quick question here...

I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk
about it on Coast To Coast.

I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment
itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation
condition.

My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of
solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known
observations of this phenomenon.

Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated.


I can remember operating CW in 1970 or 1971 in the 40 meter band and being
able
to un-key and hear my own signal, or part of it.


No kiddin' ??? What the heck could it be, atmospherically speaking ???
Really... That is some screwy stuff... Nothing adds up.


It adds up very well. Simply conditions that would allow the signal to propagate
all the way around the earth.

It's been reported and noted in the past.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



m II October 23rd 04 07:48 AM

Michael wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Michael wrote:


Quick question here...

I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk
about it on Coast To Coast.

I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment
itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation
condition.

My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of
solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known
observations of this phenomenon.

Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated.


I can remember operating CW in 1970 or 1971 in the 40 meter band and being
able
to un-key and hear my own signal, or part of it.



No kiddin' ??? What the heck could it be, atmospherically speaking ???
Really... That is some screwy stuff... Nothing adds up.



Not so. The Ace thinks 'CW' means 'non compos mentis'. Some things he
did in the seventies STILL reverberate in his brain. A lot of the
phenomena are auditory hallucinations. The use of mercury in cartridge
primers was quite common in the stone age and NOW we have to deal with
these unfortunate victims of heavy metal poisoning.



mike

Doug Smith W9WI October 23rd 04 09:22 AM

Michael wrote:
My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of
solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known
observations of this phenomenon.


A long-time member of the West Allis RAC told me - in the late 1970s -
of a LDE he'd heard some 20 years earlier.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com


Keyboard In The Wilderness October 23rd 04 02:59 PM

See URL:
http://www.vhfdx.net/lde.html

AND
http://www.ham-shack.com/history31.html

AND
http://www.ac6v.com/LDE.htm
--
The Anon Keyboard
I doubt, therefore I might be



"Michael" wrote in message
. net...
Quick question here...

I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk
about it on Coast To Coast.

I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment
itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation
condition.

My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of
solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known
observations of this phenomenon.

Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102
PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com





Richard October 23rd 04 10:05 PM

Yes LDE's were previously called the "Luxembourg effect" and were first
noted in the 1930s!!!

Rgds
Richard, SO5GB



"Michael" wrote in message
. net...
Quick question here...

I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk
about it on Coast To Coast.

I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment
itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation
condition.

My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of
solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known
observations of this phenomenon.

Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102
PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com





dxAce October 23rd 04 10:11 PM



Richard wrote:

Yes LDE's were previously called the "Luxembourg effect" and were first
noted in the 1930s!!!


The 'Luxembourg effect' has nothing whatsoever to do with LDE's.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Rgds
Richard, SO5GB

"Michael" wrote in message
. net...
Quick question here...

I've read about LDE a number of times and have even heard Art Bell talk
about it on Coast To Coast.

I've been thinking that it might be a product of the electronic equipment
itself, rather then any kind of outlandish atmospheric/propagation
condition.

My question... Has LDE ever been noticed or logged prior to the days of
solid state and computer chip rigs ??? I'd love to know the first known
observations of this phenomenon.

Any help on this question would be enormously appreciated.
--
Respectfully,

Michael

Location: New Jersey
Primary Receiver: R-75 with full Kiwa mods
Antennas: G5RV, 200ft "Frankenstein" roof wire
Additional Radios: 7600GR,KA-1101,KA-1102
PL-550, KA-989, Info-Mate 837, GE-SR III
Westinghouse H-104 (seven tube)
Web Site: http://md_dxing.tripod.com





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