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JuLiE Dxer
"Diverd4777" wrote in message ... ** JuLiE Dxer: ** ** - Do you post anything about Shortwave? ** What kind of receivers do you have? ** What kind of Antennas? ** How's Propagation in your neck of the woods ?? ** Any interesting catches recently? ** Write any Utilities for receivers ? ** ** JuLiE Dxer: ** - Do you post anything about Shortwave? ** Put up or Shut up, and have a nice day. ** * Is there some odd reason why you are concerned with "JuLIE" and not * with the other id that's engaged in massive OT bombardment of rrs * with no shortwave content? Just wonderin' Exactly... There are way too many off topic postings cluttering up this group with pure garbage not related to short wave radio. One reason why they're not channeling their efforts towards the spammers is that they're part of the group of spammers with all their Identity shifting. |
"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message ... "Diverd4777" wrote in message ... ** JuLiE Dxer: ** ** - Do you post anything about Shortwave? ** What kind of receivers do you have? ** What kind of Antennas? ** How's Propagation in your neck of the woods ?? ** Any interesting catches recently? ** Write any Utilities for receivers ? ** ** JuLiE Dxer: ** - Do you post anything about Shortwave? ** Put up or Shut up, and have a nice day. ** * Is there some odd reason why you are concerned with "JuLIE" and not * with the other id that's engaged in massive OT bombardment of rrs * with no shortwave content? Just wonderin' Exactly... There are way too many off topic postings cluttering up this group with pure garbage not related to short wave radio. One reason why they're not channeling their efforts towards the spammers is that they're part of the group of spammers with all their Identity shifting. No you shut up! |
-=jd=- schrieb: .....Will it include the content of broadcasts heard on the radio? The contetnt is sometimes useful for IDing a station for some reason. But _discussing_ on the content is clearly offtopic here. Thanks. |
"Brian Edward Hill" wrote in message ... | | "JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message | ... | | | "Diverd4777" wrote in message | ... | ** JuLiE Dxer: | ** | ** - Do you post anything about Shortwave? | ** What kind of receivers do you have? | ** What kind of Antennas? | ** How's Propagation in your neck of the woods ?? | ** Any interesting catches recently? | ** Write any Utilities for receivers ? | ** | ** JuLiE Dxer: | ** - Do you post anything about Shortwave? | ** Put up or Shut up, and have a nice day. | ** | * Is there some odd reason why you are concerned with "JuLIE" and not | * with the other id that's engaged in massive OT bombardment of rrs | * with no shortwave content? Just wonderin' | | | Exactly... There are way too many off topic postings cluttering up | this group with pure garbage not related to short wave radio. One | reason why they're not channeling their efforts towards the spammers | is that they're part of the group of spammers with all their Identity | shifting. | | No you shut up! Time has come for us to shut *her* up. Send your complaints to: if you've had enough of her garbage. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota "If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up." - Anonymous --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/04 |
"-=jd=-" wrote in message ... | On Sat 06 Nov 2004 12:00:20p, Dan wrote | in message : | | On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 17:51:50 +0100, Volker Tonn | wrote: | | | -=jd=- schrieb: | | .....Will it include the content of broadcasts | heard on the radio? | | The contetnt is sometimes useful for IDing a station for | some reason. But _discussing_ on the content is clearly | offtopic here. Thanks. | | In your opinion. Thanks. | | Dan | | | Here's a snip from a 1996 post pointing to the charter & faq: | http://www.faqs.org/faqs/radio/monitoring/introduction/ | (my emphasis added in all-caps) | ################### | What is rec.radio.shortwave for? | | ...This group is intended to be a place where ANY radio | monitoring topic can and should be discussed. We are happy to | hear from posters who listen to any part of the radio or | microwave spectrum, from DC to daylight. We discuss topics of | ALMOST ANY KIND, ranging from (but not limited to) SHORTWAVE | BROADCASTING, DXing small or distant shortwave stations, | utility and teletype monitoring, military eavesdropping, | station schedules, QSLing sw broadcasters, spectrum | usage, equipment design and modifications, antennas, receiver | reviews and recommendations, AND MANY MORE... | ################### | | So, when it gets to the part about topics, what is the *very* | first item in the example list?: | | "...We discuss topics of almost any kind, ranging from (but | not limited to) shortwave broadcasting..." | | And there you have it. | | Julie (if that's your *real* name), Mike Terry, Volker Tonn - | You are all hereby relieved of your net-kopping duties. You | may lay down your arms & return peacfully to your farms and | fields; You fought bravely and honorably, but now the war has | ended. Honorably? By making reference to where I live and the names of members of my family? By posting one of my email addresses multiple times to encourage spam? She doesn't understand honor, and for that reason, I think it's time to encourage Verizon to take away her posting privileges. "She" is a control freak, and will stop at nothing to shut people up. It's time to fight fire with fire. "She" is in way over her head. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota "If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up." - Anonymous --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/04 |
-=jd=- schrieb: The group name is "Rec.Radio.Shortwave", not "Rec.Radio.Shortwave.Technical-Aspects-Only"... There are are plenty of groups specialized to talk on political and other topics. If you want political, geographical or sexual talk go to the related group(s)! Newsgroups are related on themes. And rrs is related on _receiving_ not on _contetnt_ of transmissions. Period. It's fine to point out what you're actually hearing on shortwave or other freqs. But if you want to discuss on non receiving related content make a follow-up to the related group. Thanks. |
-=jd=- schrieb: Please refer to the previous post of mine with reference to the newsgroup charter for a clearer understanding that broadcast content is on topic. Thanks much! A newsgroup with a special topic is to prefer over any other usegroup it may be a "special part" of. With other words: Any topic a special newsgroup exists for, is offtopic everywhere(!) else. This is how newsgroups _basically_ work. Take it. |
On 06 Nov 2004 19:42:04 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote: On Sat 06 Nov 2004 02:27:54p, Volker Tonn wrote in message : -=jd=- schrieb: The group name is "Rec.Radio.Shortwave", not "Rec.Radio.Shortwave.Technical-Aspects-Only"... There are are plenty of groups specialized to talk on political and other topics. If you want political, geographical or sexual talk go to the related group(s)! Newsgroups are related on themes. And rrs is related on _receiving_ not on _contetnt_ of transmissions. Period. It's fine to point out what you're actually hearing on shortwave or other freqs. But if you want to discuss on non receiving related content make a follow-up to the related group. Thanks. Please refer to the previous post of mine with reference to the newsgroup charter for a clearer understanding that broadcast content is on topic. Thanks much! -=jd=- Exactly. It's my pleasure to "cross the aisle" and to agree with an excellent example of a thinking conservative on this issue of content. Otherwise, this interesting and challenging list could devolve into a bunch of ******s discussing their rigs. The self-appointed Wouff-Hongs, like JuLiE-of-the-mystery-chromosome, are free to ignore the posts that do not meet their needs. And, oh yeah, keep listening, and 73, BB |
"-=jd=-" wrote: | I can empathise with your sentiments & it indicates why my | humor and sarcasm may not have registered... | | -=jd=- (chuckling) Not a problem, jd. I just had a bit of an epiphany. JuLIE is a child, or has the mentality of a child, and has no sense of control over her/his/its environment. Upon re - reading the aforementioned post, I see just what you're saying. Too, I notice JuLIE isn't posting here - could her/his/its verizon.net account have been suspended for TOS violations? 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota "If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up." - Anonymous --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/04 |
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message ink.net... Not a problem, jd. I just had a bit of an epiphany. JuLIE is a child, or has the mentality of a child, and has no sense of control over her/his/its environment. Upon re - reading the aforementioned post, I see just what you're saying. Too, I notice JuLIE isn't posting here - could her/his/its verizon.net account have been suspended for TOS violations? I have assumed she was about 12 all along, I just now realized that she could be older (hopefully not) |
There are are plenty of groups specialized to talk on political and other topics. If you want political, geographical or sexual talk go to the related group(s)! Newsgroups are related on themes. And rrs is related on _receiving_ not on _contetnt_ of transmissions. Period. It's fine to point out what you're actually hearing on shortwave or other freqs. But if you want to discuss on non receiving related content make a follow-up to the related group. Thanks. That is not true. Read the charter and you will see that this is an open group that is not strict about posting on topic. |
"Volker Tonn" wrote in message ... A newsgroup with a special topic is to prefer over any other usegroup it may be a "special part" of. With other words: Any topic a special newsgroup exists for, is offtopic everywhere(!) else. This is how newsgroups _basically_ work. Take it. That may be your opinion but it is incorrect. |
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:20:28 GMT, Bradley B.
wrote: Otherwise, this interesting and challenging list could devolve into a bunch of ******s discussing their rigs. Just to clarify... Not that there is anything wrong with that. Just that the DIVERSITY of what is discussed here produces a more lively microcosm. bb |
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"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote: "-=jd=-" wrote: | I can empathise with your sentiments & it indicates why my | humor and sarcasm may not have registered... | | -=jd=- (chuckling) Not a problem, jd. I just had a bit of an epiphany. JuLIE is a child, or has the mentality of a child, and has no sense of control over her/his/its environment. Upon re - reading the aforementioned post, I see just what you're saying. Too, I notice JuLIE isn't posting here - could her/his/its verizon.net account have been suspended for TOS violations? Two words... kill file. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Radio Flyer schrieb: That may be your opinion but it is incorrect. No. It's basics how usenet functions. |
My guess is that she is late 40's or early 50's, grossly overweight and
hasn't been in a relationship for 10 years. It certainly would explain a few things ;-). Top 10 to you. I do hope that the people at verizon are listening. Good DX John Barnard "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote: "-=jd=-" wrote: | I can empathise with your sentiments & it indicates why my | humor and sarcasm may not have registered... | | -=jd=- (chuckling) Not a problem, jd. I just had a bit of an epiphany. JuLIE is a child, or has the mentality of a child, and has no sense of control over her/his/its environment. Upon re - reading the aforementioned post, I see just what you're saying. Too, I notice JuLIE isn't posting here - could her/his/its verizon.net account have been suspended for TOS violations? 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota "If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up." - Anonymous --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/04 |
"Telamon" wrote in message ... | In article . net, | "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote: | | "-=jd=-" wrote: | | | I can empathise with your sentiments & it indicates why my | | humor and sarcasm may not have registered... | | | | -=jd=- | | (chuckling) | | Not a problem, jd. I just had a bit of an epiphany. JuLIE | is a child, or has the mentality of a child, and has no sense of | control over her/his/its environment. Upon re - reading the | aforementioned post, I see just what you're saying. | | Too, I notice JuLIE isn't posting here - could her/his/its | verizon.net account have been suspended for TOS violations? | | Two words... kill file. | | -- | Telamon | Ventura, California Right, right right...gotcha, I'm doing that right now, and her BS won't show up. Sorry for making mountains out of molehills. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota "If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up." - Anonymous --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/04 |
-=jd=- schrieb: ...which clearly states (as the first example given) that discussions about shortwave broadcasts is on topic. Yep! Discussion about *broadcasts* and NOT about *_content_ of broadcasts*. Every content you wish to discuss you can find for sure a specialized newsgroup for. Except the content itself is focussed on the own or others transmission like dx/listeners-information or broadcast schedules etc. You want to discuss on the content of the numbers-stations, right? |
I realize that people will post whatever they want to post, but there
are groups dedicated to the discussion of politics and I *wish* that more of the political stuff would be directed there. In fact, it seems to me that that would be better for those posting political stuff, since your posts will then be read by more people who are interested in discussing politics. It would also help poor SWLers like me, who want to be able to see the on-topic posts here without having to wade through tons of off-topic posts. I wouldn't mind if a political post popped up once in a while, but it doesn't seem like this group is really about shortwave at all anymore. Just my two cents! Steve " Radio Flyer" wrote in message ... There are are plenty of groups specialized to talk on political and other topics. If you want political, geographical or sexual talk go to the related group(s)! Newsgroups are related on themes. And rrs is related on _receiving_ not on _contetnt_ of transmissions. Period. It's fine to point out what you're actually hearing on shortwave or other freqs. But if you want to discuss on non receiving related content make a follow-up to the related group. Thanks. That is not true. Read the charter and you will see that this is an open group that is not strict about posting on topic. |
Many true blue SWLers have long since left this NG and are now on other
groups, some moderated. See URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=shortwave Where you will find dozens of SWL groups Example Yahoo shortwave-radio Discussion group for people who like to listen to and log shortwave radio stations from around the globe, here you can exchange frequencies and discuss the radios and receivers available for this interesting hobby. Has 877 members ! Another SWL group is for SWL antennas -- has 1328 members ! Shortwave-SWL-Antenna This focus of this Group on YAHOO! is the Shortwave (SW) Antenna; the Medium Wave (MW) Antenna and the FM Radio Antenna: Theory, Design, Construction, Use and Application for Shortwave (Radio) Listeners (SWL) and Medium (Radio) Wave Listeners. Medium Wave is better know as the AM Radio Broadcast Band (BCB). The FM Radio Band (87-108 MHz) because it is Very High Frequency (VHF) has its own unique antenna considerations. In some parts of the world all of these forms of radio listening are called And there are hundreds (thousands ?) of Yahoo groups devoted to politics where readers are really interested in politics. Except for the dozen or so regular political types here, I doubt most readers of rec.radio.shortwave care about the political rants or even read them, but it is unmoderated -- so there you go, quit complaining about an unmoderated NG and get on one that stays on topic. -- The Anon Keyboard with two cents worth (more or less) I doubt, therefore I might be "Steve" wrote in message om... I realize that people will post whatever they want to post, but there are groups dedicated to the discussion of politics and I *wish* that more of the political stuff would be directed there. In fact, it seems to me that that would be better for those posting political stuff, since your posts will then be read by more people who are interested in discussing politics. It would also help poor SWLers like me, who want to be able to see the on-topic posts here without having to wade through tons of off-topic posts. I wouldn't mind if a political post popped up once in a while, but it doesn't seem like this group is really about shortwave at all anymore. Just my two cents! Steve |
"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote in message news:P3sjd.119551$hj.6941@fed1read07... Many true blue SWLers have long since left this NG and are now on other groups, some moderated. Very true and especially when they are moderated. I block sender the off topic posters here and get about 30-40 good postings a day, just about worthwhile supporting this group I feel. I don't have a clue why these political posters don't stick to rec.politics or whatever its called where they might find readers!! 73s Mike |
"Volker Tonn" wrote in message ... -=jd=- schrieb: ...which clearly states (as the first example given) that discussions about shortwave broadcasts is on topic. Yep! Discussion about *broadcasts* and NOT about *_content_ of broadcasts*. Every content you wish to discuss you can find for sure a specialized newsgroup for. Except the content itself is focussed on the own or others transmission like dx/listeners-information or broadcast schedules etc. You want to discuss on the content of the numbers-stations, right? It is outrageous to say that you can discuss the frequency, location, strength, and language, but it is off topic to discuss what they said on the broadcast. If that were true, then this group should be called rec.radio.shortwave.frequencyalerts |
STOP YOUR OFF TOPIC POLITICAL SPAM IN HERE
Did I type ??? ok.. just checking STOP YOUR POLITICAL OFF TOPIC SPAM IN HERE |
It good to see a smart person in here with a clear mind.
Perhaps you can help all these idiots understand the appropriate behavior for this newsgroup. On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:27:54 +0100, Volker Tonn wrote: -=jd=- schrieb: The group name is "Rec.Radio.Shortwave", not "Rec.Radio.Shortwave.Technical-Aspects-Only"... There are are plenty of groups specialized to talk on political and other topics. If you want political, geographical or sexual talk go to the related group(s)! Newsgroups are related on themes. And rrs is related on _receiving_ not on _contetnt_ of transmissions. Period. It's fine to point out what you're actually hearing on shortwave or other freqs. But if you want to discuss on non receiving related content make a follow-up to the related group. Thanks. |
I agree, RadioFlyer is wrong.
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:19:12 +0100, Volker Tonn wrote: Radio Flyer schrieb: That may be your opinion but it is incorrect. No. It's basics how usenet functions. |
You almost had me confused for a moment. You're RoadRunner Steve, not
Primary.net Steve ;) I agree whole heartedly with your sentiments. I came here to read up on shortwave related topics and gain insightful knowledge on where to listen to certain broadcast as well as what interesting, less known broadcast were available to receive. I have to weed through hundreds of posts of pure "OFF-TOPIC" nonsense to find relevelant postings. One time, last month, when I pulled down new headers I think it was 72 of 102 were political postings by one specific individual up in Canada. The remaining 30 were mostly political retorts to the sot in Canada. Maybe one or two shortwave related postings existed. I should haven't to weed through 100+ postings to find one, maybe two shortwave radio postings. That's just purely wrong. It's too bad they're too stupid to see the errors of their ways, but I imagine if I started posting scores of some other "OFF-TOPIC" genre into the group they'd all be crying and whining about it! IMHO, they're all hippocrits. |
Don't worry Volker, you're correct on this issue.
Fifteen uneducated, mindless idiots on one side of an issue versus four or five on the other side doesn't make the idiots correct. On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 21:17:30 +0100, Volker Tonn wrote: -=jd=- schrieb: Please refer to the previous post of mine with reference to the newsgroup charter for a clearer understanding that broadcast content is on topic. Thanks much! A newsgroup with a special topic is to prefer over any other usegroup it may be a "special part" of. With other words: Any topic a special newsgroup exists for, is offtopic everywhere(!) else. This is how newsgroups _basically_ work. Take it. |
| ################### | What is rec.radio.shortwave for? | | ...This group is intended to be a place where ANY radio | monitoring topic can and should be discussed. RADIO MONITORING TOPIC !!! Damn you're an idiot STEVE STOP YOUR OFF TOPIC POLITICAL SPAM IN HERE Did I type ??? ok.. just checking STOP YOUR POLITICAL OFF TOPIC SPAM IN HERE |
STOP YOUR OFF TOPIC POLITICAL SPAM IN HERE
Did I type ??? ok.. just checking STOP YOUR POLITICAL OFF TOPIC SPAM IN HERE |
Damn you're stupid.
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| Two words... kill file. | | -- | Telamon | Ventura, California Telamon is no stranger to kill files. He's in about 80% of this group's pariticpants. |
"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message ... [snippage] I have to weed through hundreds of posts of pure "OFF-TOPIC" nonsense to find relevelant postings. One time, last month, when I pulled down new headers I think it was 72 of 102 were political postings by one specific individual up in Canada. The remaining 30 were mostly political retorts to the sot in Canada. Maybe one or two shortwave related postings existed. I should haven't to weed through 100+ postings to find one, maybe two shortwave radio postings. That's just purely wrong. You're absolutely right. But it's not going to stop. The other day I got home from work, ran OE and clicked this group. The status bar said 145 messages not downloaded. When my killfile and ignored threads filter got done I had 33 mostly on topic posts to look through. 77% cleanup rate. It takes a little effort but it's worth it to me. In fact, if so many people didn't bother to respond to the off topic posts... well, you get the picture. Trolls might go away if no one replies to them, but that's not going to happen either. I'll just keep filtering and clicking the posts that I'm interested in. |
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Thank you for your reply, Sanjaya.. That was my approach for the first month or two. I became very irritated once I figured out that quite of few of these morons were changing their Identities to get around kill filters. I manage to link one sot to about 15 identities in one week or two. I've actively emailed all their ISPs once I deemed their activity merited such actions. I've had to resort to adding topic filtering too which will undoubtedly filter out some good postings I'd rather not have filtered. 73 MJ On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:10:20 GMT, "Sanjaya" wrote: "JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message .. . [snippage] I have to weed through hundreds of posts of pure "OFF-TOPIC" nonsense to find relevelant postings. One time, last month, when I pulled down new headers I think it was 72 of 102 were political postings by one specific individual up in Canada. The remaining 30 were mostly political retorts to the sot in Canada. Maybe one or two shortwave related postings existed. I should haven't to weed through 100+ postings to find one, maybe two shortwave radio postings. That's just purely wrong. You're absolutely right. But it's not going to stop. The other day I got home from work, ran OE and clicked this group. The status bar said 145 messages not downloaded. When my killfile and ignored threads filter got done I had 33 mostly on topic posts to look through. 77% cleanup rate. It takes a little effort but it's worth it to me. In fact, if so many people didn't bother to respond to the off topic posts... well, you get the picture. Trolls might go away if no one replies to them, but that's not going to happen either. I'll just keep filtering and clicking the posts that I'm interested in. |
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"JuLiE Dxer" wrote in message ... STOP YOUR OFF TOPIC POLITICAL SPAM IN HERE Did I type ??? ok.. just checking STOP YOUR POLITICAL OFF TOPIC SPAM IN HERE On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 17:34:40 GMT, "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote: Honorably? By making reference to where I live and the names of members of my family? By posting one of my email addresses multiple times to encourage spam? She doesn't understand honor, and for that reason, I think it's time to encourage Verizon to take away her posting privileges. "She" is a control freak, and will stop at nothing to shut people up. It's time to fight fire with fire. "She" is in way over her head. 73, Steve Lawrence KAØPMD Burnsville, Minnesota "If a man wants his dreams to come true then he must wake up." - Anonymous --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/04 |
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