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lsmyer November 6th 04 04:57 PM

The radio on Gilligan's Island
 
Since the mid-1960s, I have searched far and wide to find a radio that had
such good reception as the one on Gilligan's Island.

That incredible DX powerhouse of a radio could regularly pick up US mainland
broadcasters -- KDKA comes to mind -- from its location on a tiny island
located thousands of miles from the US mainland deep in the South Pacific.
Not just at night, mind you, but right in the middle of the day.

Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product of a
secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
zero-point energy equilibrium.

I would like to get one of these radios and hopefully some of those
batteries as well. If anybody finds one on ebay, be sure to post it here.
Thanks.



Lee Smith November 6th 04 06:54 PM

Hi:

Since the mid-60's I've been looking for a woman who had the same effect on
me as "Ginger" when I was 15 or so who comes equipped with her own
wardrobe, massive high-heel collection and makeup case!

Just to keep the post on topic ... sorry can't help with one of those
super-receivers ... LOL.

Lee




elg110254 November 6th 04 10:31 PM

Ismyer, try checking http://gilligansisle.com/radio.html

Terry November 7th 04 01:51 AM


I like the voice of the female I'm listening to on radio Japan at 17825
right now.

Telamon
Ventura, California


Tokyo Rose; maybe?



Bob Sillett November 7th 04 01:58 AM

I seem to remember the castaways doing something to recharge the batteries.
Didn't the professor have something where they used coconuts or something?

And you're assumption that they were thousands of miles away might not be
right. Look at the evidence:

-- they had a plain, vanilla AM radio
-- stations came in clear as a bell

Maybe they were only stranded 50 or 100 miles away from Oahu!

Bob



"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
Since the mid-1960s, I have searched far and wide to find a radio that had
such good reception as the one on Gilligan's Island.

That incredible DX powerhouse of a radio could regularly pick up US
mainland broadcasters -- KDKA comes to mind -- from its location on a tiny
island located thousands of miles from the US mainland deep in the South
Pacific. Not just at night, mind you, but right in the middle of the day.

Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product of
a secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
zero-point energy equilibrium.

I would like to get one of these radios and hopefully some of those
batteries as well. If anybody finds one on ebay, be sure to post it here.
Thanks.




Radio Flyer November 7th 04 01:59 AM


"Bob Sillett" wrote in message
...
I seem to remember the castaways doing something to recharge the batteries.
Didn't the professor have something where they used coconuts or something?

And you're assumption that they were thousands of miles away might not be
right. Look at the evidence:

-- they had a plain, vanilla AM radio
-- stations came in clear as a bell

Maybe they were only stranded 50 or 100 miles away from Oahu!

Bob


Remember it WAS just a "3 hour tour"



Bob Haberkost November 7th 04 02:20 AM


"Bob Sillett" wrote in message
...
I seem to remember the castaways doing something to recharge the batteries. Didn't
the professor have something where they used coconuts or something?

And you're assumption that they were thousands of miles away might not be right.
Look at the evidence:

-- they had a plain, vanilla AM radio
-- stations came in clear as a bell

Maybe they were only stranded 50 or 100 miles away from Oahu!

Bob


Except that (I still remember this as a kid) one time John Facenda, the one-time
voice of NFL Football films and the venerated anchor of the CBS O&O, WCAU, once did a
bit. Now, Philadelphia is a long way from the Pacific no matter which way you go.
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Mark S. Holden November 7th 04 02:50 AM

Radio Flyer wrote:

"Bob Sillett" wrote in message
...

I seem to remember the castaways doing something to recharge the batteries.
Didn't the professor have something where they used coconuts or something?

And you're assumption that they were thousands of miles away might not be
right. Look at the evidence:

-- they had a plain, vanilla AM radio
-- stations came in clear as a bell

Maybe they were only stranded 50 or 100 miles away from Oahu!

Bob



Remember it WAS just a "3 hour tour"


In one episode a surfer arrived on the island after spending 4 days
riding a tsunami.



m II November 7th 04 02:54 AM

Terry wrote:
I like the voice of the female I'm listening to on radio Japan at 17825
right now.

Telamon
Ventura, California



Tokyo Rose; maybe?



I don't think she was woman. I read she was hung after the
war..therefore, she was hung *before* the war.




mike

Howard November 7th 04 04:10 AM

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 20:58:01 -0500, "Bob Sillett"
wrote:

I seem to remember the castaways doing something to recharge the batteries.
Didn't the professor have something where they used coconuts or something?

And you're assumption that they were thousands of miles away might not be
right. Look at the evidence:

-- they had a plain, vanilla AM radio
-- stations came in clear as a bell

Maybe they were only stranded 50 or 100 miles away from Oahu!

Bob

Actually just off the coast of Oahu on an island, I believe, in or
near Kaneohe Bay.




"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
Since the mid-1960s, I have searched far and wide to find a radio that had
such good reception as the one on Gilligan's Island.

That incredible DX powerhouse of a radio could regularly pick up US
mainland broadcasters -- KDKA comes to mind -- from its location on a tiny
island located thousands of miles from the US mainland deep in the South
Pacific. Not just at night, mind you, but right in the middle of the day.

Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product of
a secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
zero-point energy equilibrium.

I would like to get one of these radios and hopefully some of those
batteries as well. If anybody finds one on ebay, be sure to post it here.
Thanks.




Jon Lippert November 7th 04 04:24 AM

Greetings! I seem to remember Giligan riding a bicycle to generate power for
something; maybe the radio. All those years with neither Ginger or Mary Ann
getting pregnant? Maybe the only nuts there were the ones that the professor
tried to make power from. By the way; where did the bicycle come from?

Frank Dresser November 7th 04 05:13 AM


"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
Since the mid-1960s, I have searched far and wide to find a radio that had
such good reception as the one on Gilligan's Island.


There were at least three radios on Gilligan's Island. The Packard Bell
tabletop (with the add on handle and telescopic antenna), the Hallicrafters
S-40B the Skipper converted into a transmitter and Gilligan's filling, which
somehow turned into a radio receiver.

There were a few radios which came with the several visitors to the island.



That incredible DX powerhouse of a radio could regularly pick up US

mainland
broadcasters -- KDKA comes to mind -- from its location on a tiny island
located thousands of miles from the US mainland deep in the South Pacific.
Not just at night, mind you, but right in the middle of the day.


I'm sure we have all figured out the real reason the castaways never got off
the island. It's because they didn't really want to. They were already in
paradise. And good DX is one of the more obscure, yet important, parts of
paradise.



Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product of

a
secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
zero-point energy equilibrium.


Ah, that's the easy part. Those 60s transistor radios didn't use much
current. I've got an old Silvertone from that era, and it draws less than
15 mils at low volume settings. It's powered with six D cells, and alkaline
cells would run the radio for two to four hours a day for over a year. Half
an hour a week for a couple of years? Piece o' cake.


I would like to get one of these radios and hopefully some of those
batteries as well. If anybody finds one on ebay, be sure to post it here.
Thanks.



Frank Dresser



Sir Cumference November 7th 04 05:34 AM

Frank Dresser wrote:

"lsmyer" wrote in message
...

Since the mid-1960s, I have searched far and wide to find a radio that had
such good reception as the one on Gilligan's Island.



There were at least three radios on Gilligan's Island. The Packard Bell
tabletop (with the add on handle and telescopic antenna), the Hallicrafters
S-40B the Skipper converted into a transmitter and Gilligan's filling, which
somehow turned into a radio receiver.

There were a few radios which came with the several visitors to the island.



That incredible DX powerhouse of a radio could regularly pick up US


mainland

broadcasters -- KDKA comes to mind -- from its location on a tiny island
located thousands of miles from the US mainland deep in the South Pacific.
Not just at night, mind you, but right in the middle of the day.



I'm sure we have all figured out the real reason the castaways never got off
the island. It's because they didn't really want to. They were already in
paradise. And good DX is one of the more obscure, yet important, parts of
paradise.



Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product of


a

secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
zero-point energy equilibrium.



Ah, that's the easy part. Those 60s transistor radios didn't use much
current. I've got an old Silvertone from that era, and it draws less than
15 mils at low volume settings. It's powered with six D cells, and alkaline
cells would run the radio for two to four hours a day for over a year. Half
an hour a week for a couple of years? Piece o' cake.


Wonder how they powered that S40B with all the tubes?


Paflyguy November 7th 04 05:43 AM

I seem to remember the castaways doing something to recharge the batteries.
Didn't the professor have something where they used coconuts or something?



I remember that episode.
To recharge the batteries the professor soaked them in some sort of citrus or
sal****er solution. I remember asking my father (an electrical engineer) if
this would really work.
I tried it, and it did nothing.
So much for expert fatherly advice.



Dan Gett November 7th 04 07:42 AM

The reception was pretty amazing...that is some groundwave!

You may recall that there was a later episode where the professor had
the entire cast sit at a table and stir liquid in coconut shells in
order to "recharge" the batteries that had finally gone dead...

Perhaps they employed this method often between episodes to make it
SEEM like the batteries lasted forever?

Your thoughts???

Dan

PS Mary Ann is the hotter of the two in my book. Dawn Wells was
actually a beauty pageant winner in real life. Hubba Hubba!

"lsmyer" wrote in message ...
Since the mid-1960s, I have searched far and wide to find a radio that had
such good reception as the one on Gilligan's Island.

That incredible DX powerhouse of a radio could regularly pick up US mainland
broadcasters -- KDKA comes to mind -- from its location on a tiny island
located thousands of miles from the US mainland deep in the South Pacific.
Not just at night, mind you, but right in the middle of the day.

Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product of a
secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
zero-point energy equilibrium.

I would like to get one of these radios and hopefully some of those
batteries as well. If anybody finds one on ebay, be sure to post it here.
Thanks.


Dyuob Poltice November 7th 04 07:56 AM

On 6 Nov 2004 23:42:53 -0800, (Dan Gett) wrote:

PS Mary Ann is the hotter of the two in my book. Dawn Wells was
actually a beauty pageant winner in real life. Hubba Hubba!


Ya know, for a 66 year old, she's not too bad either...
(from imdb)

Dawn Wells
Date of birth (location)
18 October 1938
Reno, Nevada, USA

http://www.dawn-wells.com/

Lee Smith November 7th 04 01:26 PM

OK .... so I'll grant you that Mary Ann has held up well over the years and
many of my friends sure liked the look of her, but she was always just a
little too "girl next door" for me.

Ginger on the other hand looked super-hot and used to send me into
alternating hot and cold flashes.

This debate has been timeless and is the subject of a website where you can
cast your vote. I was aghast to find myself in the minority!! No
accounting for some people's taste in women I guess ... LOL. No ... I've
got it, the vote was rigged!

Lee

Here's the link: http://tbs.com/general/story/0,,36370,00.html





dxAce November 7th 04 01:28 PM



Lee Smith wrote:

OK .... so I'll grant you that Mary Ann has held up well over the years and
many of my friends sure liked the look of her, but she was always just a
little too "girl next door" for me.

Ginger on the other hand looked super-hot and used to send me into
alternating hot and cold flashes.

This debate has been timeless and is the subject of a website where you can
cast your vote. I was aghast to find myself in the minority!! No
accounting for some people's taste in women I guess ... LOL. No ... I've
got it, the vote was rigged!


It must have been the exit polling after leaving her hut...

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Frank Dresser November 7th 04 01:36 PM


"Sir Cumference" wrote in message
...

Wonder how they powered that S40B with all the tubes?


I don't exactly remember, but it was an early episode, so I suppose there
was enough juice left in the Minnow's batteries to run a dynamotor.

I also don't know who sabotaged the plan. Might it have been the Professor,
who was enjoyed studying the flora and fauna of the island, and certainly
enjoyed the brand new experience of being the most eligible male on a
paradise island with two beautiful women? Mr. and Mrs. Howell, who were
finally able to enjoy their marriage after Mr. Howell's forced "retirement"
from the grueling 24 hour responsibilities of running Howell Industries?
Ginger, whose Hollywood career was going nowhere fast, and now had to
compete with a younger generation of shapely airheads for B-movie and
C-movie roles? The Skipper might have been faking his sleepwalking in that
episode in order to avoid the ugly mainland questions about his competence
as a Sea Captain. Even Gilligan might have had a dim glimmer of perception
that his uncanny ability to screw up at exactly the critical moment was
useful only to his friends on the island.

I say they were all in on it.

The tragedy of Gilligan's Island, one that we rrs can fully appreciate, is
that Mary Ann was too naive to see that she was surrounded by selfish
dead-enders who were abusing her trust and stealing her chance to have a
normal life.

The children laughed while watching Gilligan's Island because the shows had
a facile sort of comedy. The critics hated it because they're idiots. But
the discerning conspiratorialist can see the show for a metaphor of life as
it really is.

Sherwood Schwartz was a genius.

Frank Dresser




Lee Smith November 7th 04 02:20 PM

Yes Ace, that had to be it. Mary Ann must have used her feminine wiles to
gain unwarranted votes. Who knows went on in the privacy of the hayloft
when she was wearing those plaid shirts and cut-off jeans.

Ginger on the other hand must have been too shy to conduct herself in that
way for something as tawdry as getting a vote.

73 de Lee



Brian Hill November 7th 04 03:01 PM


"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

"Sir Cumference" wrote in message
...

Wonder how they powered that S40B with all the tubes?


I don't exactly remember, but it was an early episode, so I suppose there
was enough juice left in the Minnow's batteries to run a dynamotor.

I also don't know who sabotaged the plan. Might it have been the

Professor,
who was enjoyed studying the flora and fauna of the island, and certainly
enjoyed the brand new experience of being the most eligible male on a
paradise island with two beautiful women? Mr. and Mrs. Howell, who were
finally able to enjoy their marriage after Mr. Howell's forced

"retirement"
from the grueling 24 hour responsibilities of running Howell Industries?
Ginger, whose Hollywood career was going nowhere fast, and now had to
compete with a younger generation of shapely airheads for B-movie and
C-movie roles? The Skipper might have been faking his sleepwalking in

that
episode in order to avoid the ugly mainland questions about his competence
as a Sea Captain. Even Gilligan might have had a dim glimmer of

perception
that his uncanny ability to screw up at exactly the critical moment was
useful only to his friends on the island.

I say they were all in on it.

The tragedy of Gilligan's Island, one that we rrs can fully appreciate, is
that Mary Ann was too naive to see that she was surrounded by selfish
dead-enders who were abusing her trust and stealing her chance to have a
normal life.

The children laughed while watching Gilligan's Island because the shows

had
a facile sort of comedy. The critics hated it because they're idiots.

But
the discerning conspiratorialist can see the show for a metaphor of life

as
it really is.

Sherwood Schwartz was a genius.

Frank Dresser




I think I remember some type of human powered generator. It looked like an
exercise bike made of bamboo.


--
73 and good DXing.
Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire!
Zumbrota, Southern MN
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/





Brian Hill November 7th 04 03:05 PM


"Jon Lippert" wrote in message
...
Greetings! I seem to remember Giligan riding a bicycle to generate power

for
something; maybe the radio. All those years with neither Ginger or Mary

Ann
getting pregnant? Maybe the only nuts there were the ones that the

professor
tried to make power from. By the way; where did the bicycle come from?


That's what I remember too.

B.H.



Michael Black November 7th 04 04:39 PM


"Frank Dresser" ) writes:
"lsmyer" wrote in message
...

Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product of

a
secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
zero-point energy equilibrium.


Ah, that's the easy part. Those 60s transistor radios didn't use much
current. I've got an old Silvertone from that era, and it draws less than
15 mils at low volume settings. It's powered with six D cells, and alkaline
cells would run the radio for two to four hours a day for over a year. Half
an hour a week for a couple of years? Piece o' cake.

That's a good point. QST ran a review of the Baygen windup radio, and pointed
out for the curious that the generator put out very limited power. The
key was a radio that didn't draw much current, and one reason for that
was that the radio put out no more than soemthing like 50mW of audio.

Your point about D cells is also useful. Go back to that vintage, and many
a radio did look like a radio, big and "powerful" so it had the space for
D cells. We've gotten so used to pocket radios that run off 9volt batteries
or a pair of AA cells that we forget that there was a time when much
bigger batteries were part of the radio.

But as has been pointed out, there were various episodes dealing with powering
the radio.

Michael


JuLiE Dxer November 7th 04 07:28 PM

Does Yoko Ono count ??

sumimasen :)

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 22:21:08 -0330, "Terry"
wrote:


I like the voice of the female I'm listening to on radio Japan at 17825
right now.

Telamon
Ventura, California


Tokyo Rose; maybe?



JuLiE Dxer November 7th 04 07:30 PM

holy cow!

only 15 mils current pull ?

I imagine that'd last a good while !

CW November 7th 04 08:12 PM

It was made from bamboo, remember?
"Jon Lippert" wrote in message
...
Greetings! I seem to remember Giligan riding a bicycle to generate power

for
something; maybe the radio. All those years with neither Ginger or Mary

Ann
getting pregnant? Maybe the only nuts there were the ones that the

professor
tried to make power from. By the way; where did the bicycle come from?




Steve Silverwood November 7th 04 09:08 PM

In article ,
says...
Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product of a
secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
zero-point energy equilibrium.


Sorry to burst your bubble about the batteries, but I remember seeing
some episodes where Gilligan was pedalling a stationary bicycle of sorts
which was generating power. They probably used that to recharge the
batteries. (I presume they were able to salvage the generator from the
SS Minnow's engines.)

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:


lsmyer November 7th 04 09:57 PM

Thanks for that link. I'll save that one for posterity's sake!



lsmyer November 7th 04 10:09 PM

Forget those young girls... I'm a Lovey Man myself.

Mrs Howell had enough money for us to buy the entire South Pacific if we
wanted.

One properly placed poisonous spider in her old man's bunk, and the Widow
Howell and I would soon be free of that old coot forever.

Of course Lovey would need to watch for spiders herself once I got my hands
on the Howell fortune.



Someone November 7th 04 11:22 PM

"Lee Smith" wrote in message ...

This [Ginger or Mary Ann] debate has been timeless...


I'll say it is. Whenever I set up a new server for a client that includes
the SharePoint company web site, I always start things off by putting
up a survey entitled, "Ginger or Mary Ann?"

The sad thing is that there are beginning to be some people who don't get it.



Christopher S. Dunne November 8th 04 03:02 AM

Hey....

Since we're on it, was there *not* one episode of the show where the
announcer on the radio said, "This is KGU Honolulu"?

I keep thinking it was uttered on an episode, but I'm not sure....maybe it
was in a dream of mine....I just thought it unusual to hear *actual* calls &
COL on a fictional show....

Did this *really* happen?

sincerely
Chris

"Steve Silverwood" wrote in message
t...
In article ,
says...
Also, this radio contained some amazing self-generating batteries. They
never ran low, despite the fact that there was no AC plug available for
charging purposes, nor did it have any type of crank-based charging
mechanism. It's possible that the batteries might have been the product
of a
secret military cold-war era attempt at attaining a self-sustaining,
zero-point energy equilibrium.


Sorry to burst your bubble about the batteries, but I remember seeing
some episodes where Gilligan was pedalling a stationary bicycle of sorts
which was generating power. They probably used that to recharge the
batteries. (I presume they were able to salvage the generator from the
SS Minnow's engines.)

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:




starman November 8th 04 06:20 AM

Home come the visitors to the island were able to leave but not the
castaways? Why didn't the visitors report the location of the island
when they got back to civilization? :-)

Frank Dresser wrote:

"Sir Cumference" wrote in message
...

Wonder how they powered that S40B with all the tubes?


I don't exactly remember, but it was an early episode, so I suppose there
was enough juice left in the Minnow's batteries to run a dynamotor.

Frank Dresser



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m II November 8th 04 06:49 AM

JuLiE Dxer wrote:

Does Yoko Ono count ??


No...and stop your incessant barrage of off topic postings in this
newsgroup.

Now, where were we?..Oh yes..

She's only managed to make it to the EIGHTH most hated position. Note
the rather illustrious criminals who beat her. This is amazing for an
UK based web page.


http://www.hated-celebrities.co.uk/





mike

Jon Lippert November 8th 04 07:01 AM

Greetings! Back to the Ginger Mary Ann thing. I hear that all the votes on
Ginger may not have come in from Florida yet. They are talking about hanging
chad.

Dyuob Poltice November 8th 04 10:34 AM

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 01:20:17 -0500, starman wrote:

Home come the visitors to the island were able to leave but not the
castaways? Why didn't the visitors report the location of the island
when they got back to civilization? :-)


I think it they had to sign a waiver saying if they disclosed the
location they could be sued...
; )

TimPerry November 9th 04 04:47 AM


"Someone" wrote in message
...
"Lee Smith" wrote in message

...

This [Ginger or Mary Ann] debate has been timeless...


I'll say it is. Whenever I set up a new server for a client that includes
the SharePoint company web site, I always start things off by putting
up a survey entitled, "Ginger or Mary Ann?"

The sad thing is that there are beginning to be some people who don't get

it.


all this time its the question that was wrong. it should read; Ginger, Mary
Ann, or both?



Frank Dresser November 9th 04 04:51 PM


"starman" wrote in message
...
Home come the visitors to the island were able to leave but not the
castaways? Why didn't the visitors report the location of the island
when they got back to civilization? :-)


Thanks for getting me to clarify an important point. Only the first year of
Gilligan can be properly placed in the Island Noir genre. I know it's hard
to believe, but there are still some people who don't "get it". For them, I
suggest they imagine some cast changes. Picture the Skipper and Gilligan
played by Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre. Mr. and Mrs. Howell played
by Edward G. Robinson and Bette Davis. Ginger portrayed by Veronica Lake.
Of course, the Professor would be Robert Mitchum.

With such a cast, the true nature of the island elite would have been
obvious to even the most doltish, thick-headed viewer. Even some TV critics
might have gotten beyond the question, "Howcum they brought so many
cigarettes for a three hour tour?". But casting the castaways as comedic
figures goes even beyond the brilliance of casting Fred MacMurray as Walter
Neff. In this way, we get to see the other islanders as the trusting,
innocent Mary Ann sees them. It's only as we mature, and listen to enough
domestic shortwave radio, that the lies and moral corruption of Mary Ann's
fellow islanders become apparent.

But those later color episodes in which people start showing up? Well,
those episodes are just plain silly.

Frank Dresser



Sir Cumference November 9th 04 09:10 PM

Frank Dresser wrote:

"starman" wrote in message
...

Home come the visitors to the island were able to leave but not the
castaways? Why didn't the visitors report the location of the island
when they got back to civilization? :-)



Thanks for getting me to clarify an important point. Only the first year of
Gilligan can be properly placed in the Island Noir genre. I know it's hard
to believe, but there are still some people who don't "get it". For them, I
suggest they imagine some cast changes. Picture the Skipper and Gilligan
played by Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre. Mr. and Mrs. Howell played
by Edward G. Robinson and Bette Davis. Ginger portrayed by Veronica Lake.
Of course, the Professor would be Robert Mitchum.

With such a cast, the true nature of the island elite would have been
obvious to even the most doltish, thick-headed viewer. Even some TV critics
might have gotten beyond the question, "Howcum they brought so many
cigarettes for a three hour tour?". But casting the castaways as comedic
figures goes even beyond the brilliance of casting Fred MacMurray as Walter
Neff. In this way, we get to see the other islanders as the trusting,
innocent Mary Ann sees them. It's only as we mature, and listen to enough
domestic shortwave radio, that the lies and moral corruption of Mary Ann's
fellow islanders become apparent.

But those later color episodes in which people start showing up? Well,
those episodes are just plain silly.

Frank Dresser


For goodness sakes, it was a fantasy sitcom to entertain, nothing more.


Frank Dresser November 10th 04 04:09 PM


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For goodness sakes, it was a fantasy sitcom to entertain, nothing more.


And Gulliver's Travel's can be read as a children's story and not as a
biting political satire.

I think it's interesting that so many elements of what has become known as
the Globalist New World Order are represented on that bleak, monochromatic
island. The acumen and the stupidity. The mendacity. The authority
unearned by any accomplishment. But most importantly, the central character
who is doomed by her innocent trust.

One can almost hear Alex Jones shouting "Mary Ann, WAKE UP!!"

Frank Dresser




m II November 11th 04 05:37 AM

Frank Dresser wrote:

In this way, we get to see the other islanders as the trusting,
innocent Mary Ann sees them. It's only as we mature, and listen to enough
domestic shortwave radio, that the lies and moral corruption of Mary Ann's
fellow islanders become apparent.



You have a keen eye for the reality, nay, surreality, of the human
condition. Well done.




mike


(thinking..Frank musta bs'd his way through English lit too...)


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