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I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this
before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). |
uncle arnie wrote: I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). Quarter of 10 means 15 minutes to 10. Zulu is used the same as UTC and GMT. Zulu is more of a military term. dxAce Michigan USA |
All about UTC, GMT, and Zulu time at URL:
http://www.aros.net/~yogi/zulutime.htm Well after travelling and living across the USA, quarter of 10 (15 min before 10), quarter to (15 min before the hour), and quarter after (15 min after the hour), quarter past (15 min after the hour) are used everwhere I have been. -- The Anon Keyboard I doubt, therefore I might be "uncle arnie" wrote in message ... I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). |
The "Quarter of" / "Quarter till" and "Quarter past" / "Quarter after"
that dxAce and Keyboard in the Wilderness have mentioned refer to a "Quarter" of an hour. dxAce wrote: uncle arnie wrote: I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). Quarter of 10 means 15 minutes to 10. Zulu is used the same as UTC and GMT. Zulu is more of a military term. dxAce Michigan USA |
Al Patrick wrote: The "Quarter of" / "Quarter till" and "Quarter past" / "Quarter after" that dxAce and Keyboard in the Wilderness have mentioned refer to a "Quarter" of an hour. Well... yes, that's exactly what 15 minutes is! dxAce wrote: uncle arnie wrote: I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). Quarter of 10 means 15 minutes to 10. Zulu is used the same as UTC and GMT. Zulu is more of a military term. dxAce Michigan USA |
Ace,
I knew YOU knew. I wasn't too sure about the party asking the original question. ;-) Al ========= dxAce wrote: Al Patrick wrote: The "Quarter of" / "Quarter till" and "Quarter past" / "Quarter after" that dxAce and Keyboard in the Wilderness have mentioned refer to a "Quarter" of an hour. Well... yes, that's exactly what 15 minutes is! dxAce wrote: uncle arnie wrote: I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). Quarter of 10 means 15 minutes to 10. Zulu is used the same as UTC and GMT. Zulu is more of a military term. dxAce Michigan USA |
"Quarter Of" and "Quarter After" are more southern terms, though used other
places as well. "Quarter To" and "Quarter Past" are more northern terms (Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Chicago). Zulu is also used in aviation. "uncle arnie" wrote in message ... I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). |
Thanks, you gave me the origin of this as well as the meaning by this post.
I imagine we could also do some other terms too. On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:14 pm, Al Patrick posted to rec.radio.shortwave: %MM Ace, I knew YOU knew. I wasn't too sure about the party asking the original question. ;-) Al ========= dxAce wrote: Al Patrick wrote: The "Quarter of" / "Quarter till" and "Quarter past" / "Quarter after" that dxAce and Keyboard in the Wilderness have mentioned refer to a "Quarter" of an hour. Well... yes, that's exactly what 15 minutes is! dxAce wrote: uncle arnie wrote: I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). Quarter of 10 means 15 minutes to 10. Zulu is used the same as UTC and GMT. Zulu is more of a military term. dxAce Michigan USA |
Radio Flyer wrote:
"Quarter Of" and "Quarter After" are more southern terms, though used other places as well. "Quarter To" and "Quarter Past" are more northern terms (Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Chicago). Zulu is also used in aviation. We also use "quarter after" (as well as "quarter past") here in the Great White North -- however, I've never heard "quarter of" before. |
One quareter of an hour to go before beginning the next hour (or
completing the current one). uncle arnie wrote in message ... I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). |
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 06:26 pm, Michael Moore
posted to rec.radio.shortwave: %MM Radio Flyer wrote: "Quarter Of" and "Quarter After" are more southern terms, though used other places as well. "Quarter To" and "Quarter Past" are more northern terms (Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Chicago). Zulu is also used in aviation. We also use "quarter after" (as well as "quarter past") here in the Great White North -- however, I've never heard "quarter of" before. You got snow in Tronna? |
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= = = BDK wrote in message
= = = ... In article , says... I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). How old are you? I can't believe anyone over 25 hasn't heard the term before. As others have posted, a "quarter" is 15 minutes, AKA 1/4 of an hour... BDK FO&A, Let us remember that Two Quarters make a Half. As in "Half Past the Hour" (30 Minutes after the Hour) The 'concept' of Quarters was most likely a Visual Imaging {A Memory Tool} for many who were used to the old fashion "Round" ANALOG Clocks and Watches. Close Your Eyes and 'think' of the Round Clock face as a Pie Chart. This Imaging of a Round Clock is were we also get the terms: - Top-of-the-Hour {Exactly "On-the-Hour" - The Hour and Zero Minutes} - Bottom-of-the-Hour {Exactly 30 Minutes Between Hours} about: money, Money. MONEY ! The Quarter US Dollar 25 Cents is easy to understand. But the expression "Two-Bits" is strange to many since 'One-Bit' would be 12.5 Cents HUH? Unless one is told that a "Bit" referred to a Piece-of-Eight (A 1/8th part 'piece' of a Spanish Coin being a Piece-of-Eight) and at one time in our history the US Quater Dollar was literaly compared to Two Pieces-of-Eight - Hence the expression "Two-Bits" ! AMERICA'S TWO-BIT COINS - by Thomas LaMarre (ANA) http://www.money.org/mtquarter.html The Amazing Greenback Dollar and President, Abraham Lincoln http://www.xat.org/cgi-bin/fcp.pl?wo...&d=/xat3a.html The History of the "Greenback Dollar" http://ecclesia.org/forum/uploads/bo...greenbackP.pdf more than you wanted to know ~ RHF .. .. |
" Radio Flyer" wrote in message ... "Quarter Of" and "Quarter After" are more southern terms, though used other places as well. "Quarter To" and "Quarter Past" are more northern terms (Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Chicago). Zulu is also used in aviation. "uncle arnie" wrote in message ... I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). I'm from the EAST (PA & NJ). All of the above (Radio Flyer's) examples have been and are still used. I think they are 'age' related, not regionally related. HankG |
uncle arnie wrote:
You got snow in Tronna? No. The weather has been seasonably good here. I sure hope we do not get what Halifax got. Cheers! -- M2 |
Interestingly, the term "O'Clock" is a term that has survived in English
since mediaeval times. It is a contraction of "of the clock". So, for example, "nine o'clock" is a shortened version of nine of the clock". Mark. Auckland, New Zealand. "uncle arnie" &mex. wrote in message ... Thanks, you gave me the origin of this as well as the meaning by this post. I imagine we could also do some other terms too. On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:14 pm, Al Patrick posted to rec.radio.shortwave: %MM Ace, I knew YOU knew. I wasn't too sure about the party asking the original question. ;-) Al ========= dxAce wrote: Al Patrick wrote: The "Quarter of" / "Quarter till" and "Quarter past" / "Quarter after" that dxAce and Keyboard in the Wilderness have mentioned refer to a "Quarter" of an hour. Well... yes, that's exactly what 15 minutes is! dxAce wrote: uncle arnie wrote: I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). Quarter of 10 means 15 minutes to 10. Zulu is used the same as UTC and GMT. Zulu is more of a military term. dxAce Michigan USA |
Your post raises an interesting topic. The relation between the sun, a
compass and an analogue watch (or clock) is an equation. If you have any two of these three items, the third can be determined. For example, if you can see the sun, and you are wearing an analogue watch, you can determine true North. Or, if you have a compass, and you can see the sun, you can determine what time it is. Remember, that it is a watch or clock that is used to determine longitude also. First, you set your watch to midday exactly as the sun reaches the highest point in the sky (Note: your watch is now set to sidereal time and not mean time). Next, sail (for simplicity) due East. Next day, when the sun is at its highest, see what the time is on your watch. Let's say its 11 o'clock. Then you have travelled 15 degrees East of where you started (remembering that 360 degrees of longitude divided by 24 hours is 15 degrees per hour). No navigator would be seen without his/her analogue watch! Finally, a question: There is a time zone in the world which is set to UTC. And there are 12 times zones which are ahead of UTC (+1, +2, etc) (and, yes, some partial hour variations too). And there's 12 timezones which are less than UTC (-1, -2, etc). That adds up to 25 time zones. Yet there's only 24 hours in a day! What's going on? (Hint: the timezone at my location holds the answer) Mark. Auckland, New Zealand, which is currently UTC + 13 hours. "uncle arnie" &mex. wrote in message ... Thanks, you gave me the origin of this as well as the meaning by this post. I imagine we could also do some other terms too. On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:14 pm, Al Patrick posted to rec.radio.shortwave: %MM Ace, I knew YOU knew. I wasn't too sure about the party asking the original question. ;-) Al ========= dxAce wrote: Al Patrick wrote: The "Quarter of" / "Quarter till" and "Quarter past" / "Quarter after" that dxAce and Keyboard in the Wilderness have mentioned refer to a "Quarter" of an hour. Well... yes, that's exactly what 15 minutes is! dxAce wrote: uncle arnie wrote: I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). Quarter of 10 means 15 minutes to 10. Zulu is used the same as UTC and GMT. Zulu is more of a military term. dxAce Michigan USA |
Mark wrote: Your post raises an interesting topic. The relation between the sun, a compass and an analogue watch (or clock) is an equation. If you have any two of these three items, the third can be determined. For example, if you can see the sun, and you are wearing an analogue watch, you can determine true North. Or, if you have a compass, and you can see the sun, you can determine what time it is. Remember, that it is a watch or clock that is used to determine longitude also. First, you set your watch to midday exactly as the sun reaches the highest point in the sky (Note: your watch is now set to sidereal time and not mean time). Next, sail (for simplicity) due East. Next day, when the sun is at its highest, see what the time is on your watch. Let's say its 11 o'clock. Then you have travelled 15 degrees East of where you started (remembering that 360 degrees of longitude divided by 24 hours is 15 degrees per hour). No navigator would be seen without his/her analogue watch! Finally, a question: There is a time zone in the world which is set to UTC. And there are 12 times zones which are ahead of UTC (+1, +2, etc) (and, yes, some partial hour variations too). And there's 12 timezones which are less than UTC (-1, -2, etc). That adds up to 25 time zones. Yet there's only 24 hours in a day! What's going on? (Hint: the timezone at my location holds the answer) It has to do with the International Date Line, correct? dxAce Michigan USA |
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:19:02 -0600, uncle arnie
wrote: I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). Not US, as far as I know. My parents were from Ireland and they always used "quarter of" for a quarter to the hour. Also "ten (minutes) of" for minutes, etc. before the hour. Also quarter past and half past for after the hour. Another of their time phrasings was "He's one age to her" meaning they were of the same age. None of those usages were common among the people I grew up with in California. Note: After the coming of digital wris****ches, someone once said, "No one except a train conductor needs to know that it's eight thirty-seven." I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). |
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 13:48:42 -0600, uncle arnie
&mex. wrote: Thanks, you gave me the origin of this as well as the meaning by this post. I imagine we could also do some other terms too. I was in my twenties before I doped out that a fifth of whiskey meant a fifth of a gallon. |
"HankG" no_one@invalid wrote in message ... I'm from the EAST (PA & NJ). All of the above (Radio Flyer's) examples have been and are still used. I think they are 'age' related, not regionally related. HankG I am sure that age may have something to do with it, but I have lived in all of those places, and those are generally how they are used. But like I said, you will hear any of them anywhere, but some are used more in some places. |
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BDK wrote:
How old are you? I can't believe anyone over 25 hasn't heard the term before. As others have posted, a "quarter" is 15 minutes, AKA 1/4 of an hour... The original poster's problem was not with the word "quarter", but with the word "of". The phrase "a quarter of nine" is completely meaningless... what exactly is one-fourth of nine o'clock, anyway? 9:15? But "a quarter of nine" actually means 8:45. |
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:56:31 -0600, Tony Calguire
wrote: BDK wrote: How old are you? I can't believe anyone over 25 hasn't heard the term before. As others have posted, a "quarter" is 15 minutes, AKA 1/4 of an hour... The original poster's problem was not with the word "quarter", but with the word "of". The phrase "a quarter of nine" is completely meaningless... Meaningless??? I always understood it as meaning within a quarter hour of being nine o'clock. what exactly is one-fourth of nine o'clock, anyway? 9:15? But "a quarter of nine" actually means 8:45. |
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:34:01 +1300, "Mark" wrote:
Your post raises an interesting topic. The relation between the sun, a compass and an analogue watch (or clock) is an equation. If you have any two of these three items, the third can be determined. For example, if you can see the sun, and you are wearing an analogue watch, you can determine true North. Or, if you have a compass, and you can see the sun, you can determine what time it is. This is far from exact, based on the equation of time, which is not reflected on the watch. Local solar time, mean solar time and zone time are all different from each other. Remember, that it is a watch or clock that is used to determine longitude also. First, you set your watch to midday exactly as the sun reaches the highest point in the sky (Note: your watch is now set to sidereal time and not mean time). Actually it's set to solar time. A solar day does not correspond exactly to a sidereal day, so solar and siderial 00:00 drift with respect to each other. Next, sail (for simplicity) due East. Next day, when the sun is at its highest, see what the time is on your watch. Let's say its 11 o'clock. Then you have travelled 15 degrees East of where you started (remembering that 360 degrees of longitude divided by 24 hours is 15 degrees per hour). No navigator would be seen without his/her analogue watch! Finally, a question: There is a time zone in the world which is set to UTC. And there are 12 times zones which are ahead of UTC (+1, +2, etc) (and, yes, some partial hour variations too). And there's 12 timezones which are less than UTC (-1, -2, etc). That adds up to 25 time zones. Yet there's only 24 hours in a day! What's going on? (Hint: the timezone at my location holds the answer) Mark. Auckland, New Zealand, which is currently UTC + 13 hours. "uncle arnie" &mex. wrote in message ... Thanks, you gave me the origin of this as well as the meaning by this post. I imagine we could also do some other terms too. On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:14 pm, Al Patrick posted to rec.radio.shortwave: %MM Ace, I knew YOU knew. I wasn't too sure about the party asking the original question. ;-) Al ========= dxAce wrote: Al Patrick wrote: The "Quarter of" / "Quarter till" and "Quarter past" / "Quarter after" that dxAce and Keyboard in the Wilderness have mentioned refer to a "Quarter" of an hour. Well... yes, that's exactly what 15 minutes is! dxAce wrote: uncle arnie wrote: I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). Quarter of 10 means 15 minutes to 10. Zulu is used the same as UTC and GMT. Zulu is more of a military term. dxAce Michigan USA |
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:44:51 GMT, m II
wrote: wrote: I was in my twenties before I doped out that a fifth of whiskey meant a fifth of a gallon. Not the right one. A twenty-sixer is a roughly a fifth of the US (128 ounces) gallon. The proper Gallon has 160 ounces. 26 liquid ounces is roughly 750 cc, or 3/4 liter. I wasn't buying it in Canada. The bottles were clearly marked as being 25.6 ounces -- one fifth of a US gallon. You can stuff the "Proper" trolling. |
It's correct and common usage..."quarter of" is the same as a "quarter
before". One of many definitions of "of" includes: Away from or distance from. The full sentence would be: It is one quarter of an hour before (away from) nine hours on the clock. In the interest of brevity it becomes: It's a quarter of nine. Tony Calguire wrote in message ... BDK wrote: How old are you? I can't believe anyone over 25 hasn't heard the term before. As others have posted, a "quarter" is 15 minutes, AKA 1/4 of an hour... The original poster's problem was not with the word "quarter", but with the word "of". The phrase "a quarter of nine" is completely meaningless... what exactly is one-fourth of nine o'clock, anyway? 9:15? But "a quarter of nine" actually means 8:45. |
Yes. The +12 hours and the -12 hours are of course the same time. But on
different dates. Mark. "dxAce" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: Your post raises an interesting topic. The relation between the sun, a compass and an analogue watch (or clock) is an equation. If you have any two of these three items, the third can be determined. For example, if you can see the sun, and you are wearing an analogue watch, you can determine true North. Or, if you have a compass, and you can see the sun, you can determine what time it is. Remember, that it is a watch or clock that is used to determine longitude also. First, you set your watch to midday exactly as the sun reaches the highest point in the sky (Note: your watch is now set to sidereal time and not mean time). Next, sail (for simplicity) due East. Next day, when the sun is at its highest, see what the time is on your watch. Let's say its 11 o'clock. Then you have travelled 15 degrees East of where you started (remembering that 360 degrees of longitude divided by 24 hours is 15 degrees per hour). No navigator would be seen without his/her analogue watch! Finally, a question: There is a time zone in the world which is set to UTC. And there are 12 times zones which are ahead of UTC (+1, +2, etc) (and, yes, some partial hour variations too). And there's 12 timezones which are less than UTC (-1, -2, etc). That adds up to 25 time zones. Yet there's only 24 hours in a day! What's going on? (Hint: the timezone at my location holds the answer) It has to do with the International Date Line, correct? dxAce Michigan USA |
Mark wrote: Yes. The +12 hours and the -12 hours are of course the same time. But on different dates. Anything new regarding Antarctica? Mark. "dxAce" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: Your post raises an interesting topic. The relation between the sun, a compass and an analogue watch (or clock) is an equation. If you have any two of these three items, the third can be determined. For example, if you can see the sun, and you are wearing an analogue watch, you can determine true North. Or, if you have a compass, and you can see the sun, you can determine what time it is. Remember, that it is a watch or clock that is used to determine longitude also. First, you set your watch to midday exactly as the sun reaches the highest point in the sky (Note: your watch is now set to sidereal time and not mean time). Next, sail (for simplicity) due East. Next day, when the sun is at its highest, see what the time is on your watch. Let's say its 11 o'clock. Then you have travelled 15 degrees East of where you started (remembering that 360 degrees of longitude divided by 24 hours is 15 degrees per hour). No navigator would be seen without his/her analogue watch! Finally, a question: There is a time zone in the world which is set to UTC. And there are 12 times zones which are ahead of UTC (+1, +2, etc) (and, yes, some partial hour variations too). And there's 12 timezones which are less than UTC (-1, -2, etc). That adds up to 25 time zones. Yet there's only 24 hours in a day! What's going on? (Hint: the timezone at my location holds the answer) It has to do with the International Date Line, correct? dxAce Michigan USA |
wrote in message ... On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:34:01 +1300, "Mark" wrote: Your post raises an interesting topic. The relation between the sun, a compass and an analogue watch (or clock) is an equation. If you have any two of these three items, the third can be determined. For example, if you can see the sun, and you are wearing an analogue watch, you can determine true North. Or, if you have a compass, and you can see the sun, you can determine what time it is. This is far from exact, based on the equation of time, which is not reflected on the watch. Local solar time, mean solar time and zone time are all different from each other. Yes, you're right, its far from exact. If you want it to be exact then you'll need the compass after all. Oh, and if you want true North then you'll need to know the magnetic variation at your current location. And to help you know your current location, you'll need the compass.... etc. I suppose I was outlining a rule of thumb, perhaps to be used in an emergency situation, or simply as an exercise to demonstrate such relationships between the three. Remember, that it is a watch or clock that is used to determine longitude also. First, you set your watch to midday exactly as the sun reaches the highest point in the sky (Note: your watch is now set to sidereal time and not mean time). Actually it's set to solar time. A solar day does not correspond exactly to a sidereal day, so solar and siderial 00:00 drift with respect to each other. Again, thanks for the correction. Better not rely on me if you get lost! Anyway, after re-reading all of this, I realised I have drifted off-course and off-topic. Now, back to the radio.... Mark. Auckland, New Zealand, which is located at 36 degrees, 52 minutes South, 174 degrees, 52 minutes East. And the magnetic variation is currently around 19 degrees, 30 minutes East. |
No, nothing new as such. Some activity re ICE flights on 9032, the usual for
this time of the year I suppose. What have you been listening to lately? Something interesting? Mark. "dxAce" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: Yes. The +12 hours and the -12 hours are of course the same time. But on different dates. Anything new regarding Antarctica? Mark. "dxAce" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: Your post raises an interesting topic. The relation between the sun, a compass and an analogue watch (or clock) is an equation. If you have any two of these three items, the third can be determined. For example, if you can see the sun, and you are wearing an analogue watch, you can determine true North. Or, if you have a compass, and you can see the sun, you can determine what time it is. Remember, that it is a watch or clock that is used to determine longitude also. First, you set your watch to midday exactly as the sun reaches the highest point in the sky (Note: your watch is now set to sidereal time and not mean time). Next, sail (for simplicity) due East. Next day, when the sun is at its highest, see what the time is on your watch. Let's say its 11 o'clock. Then you have travelled 15 degrees East of where you started (remembering that 360 degrees of longitude divided by 24 hours is 15 degrees per hour). No navigator would be seen without his/her analogue watch! Finally, a question: There is a time zone in the world which is set to UTC. And there are 12 times zones which are ahead of UTC (+1, +2, etc) (and, yes, some partial hour variations too). And there's 12 timezones which are less than UTC (-1, -2, etc). That adds up to 25 time zones. Yet there's only 24 hours in a day! What's going on? (Hint: the timezone at my location holds the answer) It has to do with the International Date Line, correct? dxAce Michigan USA |
Mark wrote: No, nothing new as such. Some activity re ICE flights on 9032, the usual for this time of the year I suppose. What have you been listening to lately? Something interesting? Nothing much of interest here at the moment. Soon I'll be looking for Indian regionals though. That's the plan at any rate. dxAce Michigan USA |
Yes, it's getting worse down this end with all this daylight around! Better
for you though... Mark. "dxAce" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: No, nothing new as such. Some activity re ICE flights on 9032, the usual for this time of the year I suppose. What have you been listening to lately? Something interesting? Nothing much of interest here at the moment. Soon I'll be looking for Indian regionals though. That's the plan at any rate. dxAce Michigan USA |
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:37 am, HankG no_one@invalid posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM " Radio Flyer" wrote in message ... "Quarter Of" and "Quarter After" are more southern terms, though used other places as well. "Quarter To" and "Quarter Past" are more northern terms (Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Chicago). Zulu is also used in aviation. "uncle arnie" wrote in message ... I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). I'm from the EAST (PA & NJ). All of the above (Radio Flyer's) examples have been and are still used. I think they are 'age' related, not regionally related. HankG No. They are not used in western Canada. It has been clarified that these are Americanisms. Not related to age. Are you over 50? |
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:40 am, Michael Moore posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM uncle arnie wrote: You got snow in Tronna? No. The weather has been seasonably good here. I sure hope we do not get what Halifax got. Cheers! We had snow and now it's gone. Lows of 10, highs of 10-15 this week. May we all be spared ice storms! |
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:44 pm, m II posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM wrote: I was in my twenties before I doped out that a fifth of whiskey meant a fifth of a gallon. Not the right one. A twenty-sixer is a roughly a fifth of the US (128 ounces) gallon. The proper Gallon has 160 ounces. 26 liquid ounces is roughly 750 cc, or 3/4 liter. A US ounce is bigger than an imperial ounce (.96 of a US oz.). |
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:36 am, bug posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:19:02 -0600, uncle arnie wrote: I've never heard this before. What does "quarter of 10" mean? Is this before 10 or after 10? I thought it was my hearing until this was repeated. "quarter to" and "quarter after", rarely "quarter past" are all usual ways of saying this around here. Though digital clocks make it "ten fifteen". I think this must be a regionalism or slang for somewhere in the USA (?). You're kidding, right? I also hear "zulu" said instead of UTC (or the old GMT). Again, you're kidding, right? bug No captain, this is US-speak, and not part of my world. I knew what zulu was, just found it weird. The other, never could figure it out. Nobody says stuff like that around here. |
"uncle arnie" -mex. wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:44 pm, m II posted to rec.radio.shortwave: %MM wrote: I was in my twenties before I doped out that a fifth of whiskey meant a fifth of a gallon. Not the right one. A twenty-sixer is a roughly a fifth of the US (128 ounces) gallon. The proper Gallon has 160 ounces. 26 liquid ounces is roughly 750 cc, or 3/4 liter. A US ounce is bigger than an imperial ounce (.96 of a US oz.). Well I better hide all my value-by-weight belongings from the metric police. |
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:31:48 +1300, "Mark" wrote:
I suppose I was outlining a rule of thumb, perhaps to be used in an emergency situation, or simply as an exercise to demonstrate such relationships between the three. Agreed. It does go, at least ghenerally, to the relationships. And you'd want to know whether you're in your hemisphere or mine before you start. :-) Anyway, after re-reading all of this, I realised I have drifted off-course May I suggest following the sci.geo.satellite-nav newsgroup for help with this part of the problem? :-) and off-topic. Now, back to the radio.... Mark. Auckland, New Zealand, which is located at 36 degrees, 52 minutes South, 174 degrees, 52 minutes East. And the magnetic variation is currently around 19 degrees, 30 minutes East. |
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:28 pm, Radio Flyer posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM "uncle arnie" -mex. wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:44 pm, m II posted to rec.radio.shortwave: %MM wrote: I was in my twenties before I doped out that a fifth of whiskey meant a fifth of a gallon. Not the right one. A twenty-sixer is a roughly a fifth of the US (128 ounces) gallon. The proper Gallon has 160 ounces. 26 liquid ounces is roughly 750 cc, or 3/4 liter. A US ounce is bigger than an imperial ounce (.96 of a US oz.). Well I better hide all my value-by-weight belongings from the metric police. No, better hide them from the British Imperial System Police. Though I guess metric police would have you give back 1.25 millilitres (1.25 cc) for each US ounce. |
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