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Old November 29th 04, 01:05 PM
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If you think American mainstream media is ''liberal biased'' you must
walk without bending your knees and have a closet full of brown
shirts.

American media is totally dominated by corporate propaganda and fluff
pieces. It is infotainment at best and calculated to make the viewer
stupid.


On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:31:26 -0800, Steve Silverwood
wrote:

In article , says...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.


I agree. Domestic media is often liberally-biased, not to mention
America-centric. I often enjoy hearing what those in other countries
have to say about world events. It's often very eye-opening.

My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!


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Old November 29th 04, 09:08 PM
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bug schrieb:

I would much prefer a [news-reporting] media that isn't biased in any
way.


Hard (or IMHO impossible) to find.
Tell us when you (seem to) have found such.

Good luck.

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Old November 29th 04, 09:57 PM
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bug wrote:

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:31:26 -0800, Steve Silverwood
wrote:

In article , says...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.


I agree. Domestic media is often liberally-biased,


As a liberal with some conservative leanings -- I support a strong
national defense, I support handgun ownership for non-felons, etc. --
I no issue with "liberally-biased" media.

It's the right-wing, fundamentalist who really want a Christian
theocracy in the U.S. that scare the **** outta me!


And the sad part is, those people seem to be in control now, and the
rest of the population seems to have given their assent to a fascist
fundamentalist government. Someday the American people will realize that
"free speech for me but not for you" isn't a great idea, but by then it
will be too late. It wouldn't matter if the US wasn't the only remaining
superpower, a corrupt fascist military power sitting astride the world
like Rome and doing whatever it wants simply because it can, and having
the support of its ignorant populace to do so.



bug




not to mention
America-centric. I often enjoy hearing what those in other countries
have to say about world events. It's often very eye-opening.

My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!






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Old November 29th 04, 10:02 PM
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David wrote:

If you think American mainstream media is ''liberal biased'' you must
walk without bending your knees and have a closet full of brown
shirts.

American media is totally dominated by corporate propaganda and fluff
pieces. It is infotainment at best and calculated to make the viewer
stupid.


My grandparents can remember when "news" used to be 15 minutes long. Now
we have 24 hour news channels-all "news", all the time.



On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:31:26 -0800, Steve Silverwood
wrote:

In article , says...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.


I agree. Domestic media is often liberally-biased, not to mention
America-centric. I often enjoy hearing what those in other countries
have to say about world events. It's often very eye-opening.

My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!





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Old November 29th 04, 10:03 PM
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Steve Silverwood wrote in message et...
My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!


You forgot Voice of Korea. They may suffer from the same problems
that linger at VoR, but *dang* they're hilarious to listen to.

Amazingly, China Radio International, while still soft-pedaling its
own internal national problems, is much better than decades ago. They
seem, on the surface anyway, to be aiming more for gentle persuasion
and ideological moderation rather than hard-line bullyragging.

A special note for the Aussies and Kiwis - they insert a wry sense of
fun into all their "live" programming that is irresistible, and
reminiscent of the good old days when everyone wasn't so PC and knew a
laugh was worth a few-bucks-worth of wattpower. The news from down
under is always worth a listen just for the quips. Sort of like Radio
Nederland and RCI were 20 years ago.

Bruce Jensen
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Old November 30th 04, 01:38 PM
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Your grandparents news had more relevant contents. BTW, I remember
when the 11P News went from 15 to 30 minutes.

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:02:42 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

David wrote:

If you think American mainstream media is ''liberal biased'' you must
walk without bending your knees and have a closet full of brown
shirts.

American media is totally dominated by corporate propaganda and fluff
pieces. It is infotainment at best and calculated to make the viewer
stupid.


My grandparents can remember when "news" used to be 15 minutes long. Now
we have 24 hour news channels-all "news", all the time.



On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:31:26 -0800, Steve Silverwood
wrote:

In article , says...
I was wondering what all of you regularly listen to for news on SW. I'm
thinking of dusting off my Degen 1102 and seeing what I can hear that
comes in reliably. I'm in northern California. I'm sick of depending on
American TeeVee for news.

I agree. Domestic media is often liberally-biased, not to mention
America-centric. I often enjoy hearing what those in other countries
have to say about world events. It's often very eye-opening.

My short list of excellent news sources on shortwave:

BBC
Voice of America
Radio Netherlands
Deutsche Welle
Radio Taiwan
NHK Radio Japan
Radio Canada International
Radio Australia
Radio New Zealand International
Voice of Russia

Those all give pretty straightforward news reports. For news reports
that are somewhat slanted, you'll find Radio Havana Cuba and China Radio
International interesting.

Voice of Russia (formerly Radio Moscow) would have been in the
"slanted" list but they have been doing a commendable job in recent
years of striving for fair-and-balanced reporting. They're not quite at
the point where the VOA or BBC are, but that's probably because of
external (i.e., government) influences and not any fault of the
journalists themselves. Good job, guys!





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Most,if not all,domestic "news" on tv and radio is spoon fed news from
fed govt "ministry of propaganda" lapdogs.
cuhulin

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