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"Honus" wrote in message news:PHSqd.12858$lv6.2417@trnddc03...
"Daryl Krupa" wrote in message om... snip If you wish, I can supply links to the writeups on Ballard's finds in professional journals. I can find 'em. I'm not going to let your demurral stop me, because there are really only 2 on the 'net: Ballard, R. D. Fred Hiebert, Dwight Coleman, Cheryl Ward, Jennifer Smith, Kathryn Willis, Brendan Foley, Katherine Croff, Candace Major, Francesco Torre 2001 Deepwater Archaeology of the Black Sea of the Black Sea: The 2000 Season at Sinop, Turkey American Journal of Archeology, v. 105, no. 4, pp. 607-623 http://www.ajaonline.org/archive/105...54.pdf#ballard There you will see, on p. 615, the supposed habitation site: Table 1. Radiocarbon Analysis of Samples Collected from the Surface of Site 82 The dates range from 250 to 120 BP, i.e. no earlier than the 17th Century A.D.. Also, on the previous page, "Two samples were taken of the top 5-7 cm of deposit from within Site 82 ... Both samples contained ... no ceramics, stone debitage, or diagnostic artifacts." Whatever it may be, the "habitation site" is not proof of a BSFlood. It could easily be 12,000 years old, which is about when the level of the Black Sea dropped to its lowest point. Sad to say, Ballard didn't find Noah's house. There's just one mo Further evidence of abrupt Holocene drowning of the Black Sea shelf. Ballard, R.D, Coleman, D.F., Rosenberg, G. D. 2000 Marine Geology. 170; 3-4, Pages 253-261 There used to be more, but his archaeolologist Hiebert's pages on the subject are gone, even from his own professional site, which otherwise seems not to have been updated for more than a year: http://www.museum.upenn.edu/Sinop/SinopIntro.htm Ballard's latest report on his 2000 season in the Black Sea mentions the BSFlood, but notes that it is controversial, and says nothing at all about Noah's address, Site 82. Ward, Cheryl and Robert D. Ballard 2004 Deep-water Archaeological Survey in the Black Sea: 2000 Season The International Journal of Nautical Archaeology Volume 33 Issue 1 Page 2 - April 2004 doi:10.1111/j.1095-9270.2004.00002.x "Recent archaeological survey by sidescan sonar and remotely operated vehicles (ROVs) resulted in the discovery of one of the best-preserved seagoing ships from antiquity in the anoxic waters of the Black Sea. Three shipwrecks from the 4th to 6th centuries AD, with cargoes of shipping jars from Sinop, Turkey, were found at depths of about 100 m; the fourth sits upright on the sea-bed, buried to deck level in sediment. A description of each site and identification of visible site components is followed by a discussion of directions and possible implications of future research." http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/lin....00002.x/full/ http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/ope...ssue=1&spage=2 And what is likely to be Ryan's last gasp (I hear that he has not done well in conference tournaments lately): William B.F. Ryan, Candace O. Major, Gilles Lericolais, and *Steven L. Goldstein CATASTROPHIC FLOODING OF THE BLACK SEA 2003 Annual Review of Earth and Planetary Sciences Vol. 31: 525-554 (Volume publication date May 2003) http://arjournals.annualreviews.org/...100901.141249? Abstract: http://arjournals.annualreviews.org/....100901.141249 Sorry to splash water in the frying pan. Why? It's some theists that can't accept change based on better information. I don't have that problem. ![]() Hmmm ... what's that subtle taste? I remember it from long ago, but I so rarely encounter it nowadays ... HAH! That's It! It's Rationality! Daryl Krupa |