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[email protected] December 9th 04 11:06 PM

I know enough about hitler's Germany.I might have fell off the wagon
long ago,so to speak,but I didn't land on my head! By the way,
www.cryptome.org is a website I like and I have been checking out
everyday for over five years when I first got internet access with my
webtv box.(hey,it serves me A OK) Article at cryptome.org about,FCC
Rules On Radio Frequency Devices.In case y'all want to check it out.
webtv does not suck either.There are lots of folks who are on the msntv
(formerly webtv) one plan thingy and they use their computes on the
msntv one plan and webtv is free.OK,now cuss me out for useing
webtv,frankly,I don't care.I have a Velocity Micro $1,290.00 ProMagix
computer that I bought earlier this year but I only will use it for
World War Two gaming soon as I get satellite internet access.Going to
hang on to my webtv access too.
cuhulin



[email protected] December 9th 04 11:14 PM

I have DirecTV.My favorite channel on there (In fact,I am listening to
it right now) is channel 833 Easy Listening.My kind of music,my tv set
is sometimes a radio)
cuhulin



[email protected] December 9th 04 11:21 PM

Didn't Canada outlaw the Bible? I wish them crazy canuks would come to
my house and just try!!! to outlaw my Bible!!! They would be in for a
mighty big supprise!!!
cuhulin



[email protected] December 9th 04 11:23 PM

Know what's on the canuk dimes? I heard tell their queen is on one side
and a beaver is on the other side of their canuk dimes.
cuhulin


m II December 9th 04 11:29 PM

Michael Lawson wrote:

What, you've never heard of military tribunals for
military personnel?


I'm a pessimist. Remember Calley taking the fall? There seem to be
'justice' only when someone is trying to save face in front of the
media. A soldier also knows what the deal is when signing up.
Prisoners are treated differently and rightfully so.


My question stands, because the two are different
types. A member of the US military convicted of a
capital crime can be sentenced to death. Quite different
than executing prisoners of war or mass murder.


We were talking about killing captured enemy combatants...or in the US
case, captured enemy non combatants. Killing a captured unarmed enemy
soldier is plain wrong. You know it.


Does that make Nuremberg a "Death Camp"?? Hardly.
But the inference is there, because people were executed
there, that I because I think that the trials at Nuremberg
were justified as were the outcome, that I must be one
sick puppy.


Nuremberg wasn't done unilaterally by the US. It was decided there
that the chain of command, up to the top was guilty. Why does this
same decision then NOT apply to the US military? Why was Bush trying
to get immunity from the UN even BEFORE the atrocities started? If we
now apply what was decided at Nuremberg, half the US military would be
either hung or in prison, along with Perle, Wolfowitz, Cheney,
Bush..etc..

Using Nuremberg in context to the middle East, is counterproductive.
Russian camps in Siberia were evil. Why are the US camps in Cuba and
everywhere else not?


Or that because I feel that a guy by the
name of Dahmer should have been executed, I am a sick
puppy.


I should not have used that phrase. The death penalty is nothing more
than revenge killing. If the Arabs are looked upon so badly for doing
revenge killings, why do it here? If you want legalize revenge
killings, fine, let the families deal with the perpetrators as their
consciences allow. The state has no business in the death trade.

The death sentence isn't even a deterrent. Look at Texas. If the death
penalty worked as a deterrent, that would be the state with the best
behaved and courteous people in your country. It isn't.

If someone does get a life sentence, then it should mean that. They
work on a State run farm (NOT Halliburton) growing food and making
clothes. They get paid minimum wage, which is immediately sent to any
family they have left behind. That cuts down on the welfare rolls.

A REAL life sentence is a bigger deterrent to crime than some death
penalty that may or may not be carried out..in five or ten or twenty
years. Not forgetting all those tried on faulty evidence or just
framed to get convictions.


mike

[email protected] December 9th 04 11:34 PM

Dang right.Like Goober on the Andy Griffith tv show once said,I might be
a hillbilly but I ain't no dummy.
~Alice~


m II December 9th 04 11:43 PM

wrote:

Didn't Canada outlaw the Bible? I wish them crazy canuks would come to
my house and just try!!! to outlaw my Bible!!! They would be in for a
mighty big supprise!!!


That's true. We now have to use the Torah and are all subject to
Rabbinical Law. All Politicians must also follow the Talmud. The
Government will be paying for all the mandatory circumcisions.


We got used to it. You will too. It's coming to the US next year.

http://www.altavista.com/image/resul...ah&kgs=1&kls=0


OR:

http://snipurl.com/axvx



mikeisaac II

[email protected] December 10th 04 09:21 AM

So,let us study the name Bubba. (and Sissy) Teaching a baby to say
Brother or Sister,what does a baby usually say.Bubba,,, Sissy.Sure,those
are such enduring names coming from the mouths of babys.Call me Bubba
any old time!
cuhulin


[email protected] December 10th 04 09:27 AM

I say let us fold our part of our U.S.Military unbrella that covers
canukland and watch them canuks run like Chicken Little.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 10th 04 09:31 AM

Because on certain Holidays I take a nip or two from my bottle of Old
Crow Whiskey.Otherwise,I drink my Beer like it's going out of style.Have
a Beer. --- []
cuhulin


bpnjensen December 10th 04 03:43 PM

Man - you must have gotten a bad batch. The way my dear Grampa, Harry
Jensen (the old viking, rest his soul) used to make lutefisk, it was
luscious! Sweet, melt-in-your-mouth, buttery and fattening as hell!
Every Christmas, that plus my Gramma's (rest her soul) fabulous
sweet-kraut and apple-cinnamon-crisp-whipped cream extravaganza made
Christmas dinner something to remember year 'round. We didn't need a
SW radio to get Norway - we had it in spades right in the house :-)
Bruce Jensen


clifto December 10th 04 08:08 PM

m II wrote:
Ashcroft was busy that week. Notice all the references to domestic
concentration camps.

========================


http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...G=Search&meta=


Similar search, but for "kill all the christians", turns up over one
million hits:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=kill+all+the+christians&btnG=Google +Search

Eighty thousand for "god hates liberals", 47,900 hits for "god loves
ashcroft". Hell, I got 729 hits for "m II is a gallon of elephant urine",
so it must be so.

--
The state religion of the USA is atheism, as established by the courts.

m II December 11th 04 08:33 AM

bpnjensen wrote:

Man - you must have gotten a bad batch. The way my dear Grampa, Harry
Jensen (the old viking, rest his soul) used to make lutefisk, it was
luscious! Sweet, melt-in-your-mouth, buttery and fattening as hell!
Every Christmas, that plus my Gramma's (rest her soul) fabulous
sweet-kraut and apple-cinnamon-crisp-whipped cream extravaganza made
Christmas dinner something to remember year 'round. We didn't need a
SW radio to get Norway - we had it in spades right in the house :-)
Bruce Jensen


I may have been a bit too harsh in my description, but I've heard
nasty rumours of a very bad smell given off by the stuff.

Perhaps they're not rumours after all:


http://www.oldlutheran.com/humor/ohlutefisk.html



mike

[email protected] December 12th 04 12:28 AM

Black Day 911.Do a search for that.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 12th 04 12:30 AM

klintoon set some of those terrorist free.How soon some folks forget.I
Never Forget!
cuhulin


[email protected] December 12th 04 12:32 AM

Their "talmud" is not in my vocalbulary.
cuhulin



Brian Hill December 12th 04 03:08 PM


"m II" wrote in message
news:KIvtd.208$U47.53@clgrps12...
Brian Hill wrote:

I got family in Finland on my Dads side. I spent some time visiting my
cousin in Turku. We got drunk as hell and sat in the sauna. Then we all

ran
around naked and jumped in the freezing water and beat each other with
sticks. Yea their some real smart MFs over there. LOL!!! :)


Is Finland the home of the Lutkefisk abomination? May be
Norway..either way, I'd be armed with a stick too if anyone got near
me with that gastronomical equivalent of nerve gas.





mike


Naw, I think it's Norwegian? But the Fins eat it too as well as the Swedes.
I'm a pickled Clupeidae man. And not that crap with the bones still left in
it!


--
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Brian
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[email protected] December 12th 04 06:48 PM

But there are some beautifull wimmins in Norway.I think I will hit my
penpals link again and scope around in Norway.
cuhulin


Ross December 15th 04 03:26 AM

TV news is wonderful entertainment, because entertainment best delivers
the most eyeballs to the commercials whose sales are the whole point of
commercial television.

Some old people remember when the networks competed for credibility to
lend prestige to their organizations. Problem is, really excellent
news is a guaranteed money-loser. In the days of Edward R. Murrow, it
was understood that news was not to be judged on profitability, on the
same model that big automakers will turn out an impressive
low-production sports car at a loss to lend prestige to the nameplate.

That's simply no longer true anywhere in US TV news. News programs are
expected to turn a profit. These considerations are incompatible with
accuracy, balance or depth in a population with a short attention span.

If you want to be informed, alternate between at least 7 or 8
newspapers from at least a few different countries.

If you want to be entertained, try a good fictional show instead.

It's hard to say what TV news is good for, but for being informed...
not so much. :)


Ross December 18th 04 05:11 AM

The problem with this is Bill O'Reilly is an inveterate liar, the worst
hypocrite to hit the airwaves in a geneartion, and a total and complete
coward. This is proven.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200412160011

If you believe anything he or Ann Coulter says, you are mentally
deficient.
Enough said.

Have a nice day :)


[email protected] December 18th 04 05:23 PM

This old people person (that's me,folks) knows that those so called
"news" A@@Holes are full of S...!
cuhulin


[email protected] December 18th 04 05:24 PM

Online newspapers? www.kidon.com
cuhulin


David December 19th 04 02:51 AM

ill O'Reilly
The O'Reilly Factor
FOX News Channel
1211 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10036

Dear Mr. O'Reilly:

In May of this year, I asked that you allow me to come on The O'Reilly
Factor to discuss your attacks on philanthropist George Soros. Your
producer denied my request, saying you were no longer discussing the
topic. Yet in subsequent weeks, you continued to discuss Mr. Soros on
your radio and television programs. Despite my offer to discuss Soros,
you still did not invite me on -- even complaining during your June 1
Radio Factor, "I mean, we really can't get anybody in here [to defend
Soros] that's not a raving, raving Far-Left person, and why we would
want to do that, I don't know."

In recent months, you have repeatedly attacked me and my organization,
Media Matters for America:

On the June 28 O'Reilly Factor, you referred to Media Matters as a
"Far Left website";
On the August 5 Radio Factor, you likened Media Matters to Mao Zedong;
On the August 5 O'Reilly Factor, you claimed your critics are
"hiding"; in response, I reiterated my willingness to appear on your
television show;
During your August 7 debate with New York Times columnist Paul Krugman
on CNBC, you compared Media Matters to the Ku Klux Klan and Fidel
Castro;
On August 13, Media Matters noted your recent attacks on us, and
wondered how long it would be before you compared us to Nazi
propagandist Joseph Goebbels. It took less than a month: On the
September 14 Radio Factor, you referred to comments I made as "Joseph
Goebbels Nazi stuff";
On the December 9 Radio Factor, you called Media Matters "the most
vile, despicable human beings in the country";
On the December 14 Radio Factor, you called Media Matters "sneaky";
accused us of "tak[ing] things out of context"; called us a "Far Left,
deceitful, disgusting website"; and called us "character assassins"
and "despicable weasels."

As you can see, Mr. O'Reilly, you have repeatedly and personally
attacked me, Media Matters for America, and my fine staff, calling us
"vile," "despicable," and "weasels," and comparing us to the Ku Klux
Klan, Castro, Mao, and the Nazis. And you have refused my repeated
requests to appear on your broadcast.

You once offered your viewers your definition of the word "coward." On
the January 5, 2004, O'Reilly Factor, you declared: "If you attack
someone publicly, as these men did to me, you have an obligation to
face the person you are smearing. If you don't, you are a coward."

Well, Mr. O'Reilly, you have attacked me publicly on numerous
occasions, and you refuse to face me. You, sir, are a coward -- by
your own definition of the term. You are "hiding under your desk" (to
paraphrase your August 26, 2003, claim about a "coward" who declined
to appear on your show) rather than allowing me on your program to
discuss your insults. You are "gutless," to borrow the phrase you used
on January 10, 2003, and February 8, 2001, to describe people who
would not appear on your program. I attach additional examples of your
pejorative descriptions of those who decline invitations to appear on
your broadcast.

Your frequent complaint that your words are taken out of context
appears to have spurred your recent assault on my organization. While
reasonable people can disagree about conclusions we, or you, have
drawn about your comments, you are simply wrong to say that we took
you out of context. I remain willing and eager to appear on either
your television or radio program to discuss your contention that my
organization has taken your comments out of context.

Should you continue to refuse this offer, it is only reasonable that
the American people will conclude that you are not only -- as you
would put it -- a "coward," but a hypocrite as well.

Sincerely,

David Brock
President and CEO
Media Matters for America

http://mediamatters.org/



On 18 Dec 2004 14:10:44 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:

On Sat 18 Dec 2004 12:11:50a, "Ross"
wrote in message
roups.com:

The problem with this is Bill O'Reilly is an inveterate
liar, the worst hypocrite to hit the airwaves in a
geneartion, and a total and complete coward. This is
proven.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200412160011

If you believe anything he or Ann Coulter says, you are
mentally deficient.
Enough said.

Have a nice day :)



Would you agree that those who rely upon and place faith in
blatantly biased websites like mediamatters.org are not
equally (to borrow your phrase) "mentally deficient"?

-=jd=-



[email protected] December 19th 04 07:45 AM

O'Reilly is a POS.
cuhulin


Telamon December 19th 04 10:17 AM

In article ,
wrote:

O'Reilly is a POS.
cuhulin


Quite a string of nonsensical posts.

Plonk

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David December 19th 04 02:31 PM

On 19 Dec 2004 04:03:51 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:
Show me where the bias results in factal inaccuracy. Give me one
example of Brock lying. The right wing press as embodied in Fox News
lies a lot. Show me where Air America or Mediamatters lies.

Do you know Brock's history? He used to be one of them. He used to
be a lying right-wing hit man:

''Timeline of Brock's Career

1986: Brock comes to Washington to write for Insight, a conservative
weekly magazine published by the Washington Times' parent company

October 1991: Professor Anita Hill testifies at the confirmation
hearing for Supreme Court justice nominee Clarence Thomas. Brock later
recalls watching the hearings from his office at the Washington Times,
where he was an editor; and that at first, he "believed that what
(Hill) was saying was quite possibly true." About a month later, Brock
gets an assignment to write about Hill for the American Spectator, a
conservative journal based in Arlington, Va.

March 1992: The Spectator publishes Brock's sharply critical piece on
Hill, whom he describes as "a bit nutty and a bit slutty."

April 1993: Brock's book, The Real Anita Hill: The Untold Story, is
published. In an interview on C-SPAN, Brock says the book's key
message is that, "when you look at the evidence, the battle of
credibility is settled hands down in favor of Clarence Thomas. Anita
Hill's testimony is really shot through with false, incorrect and
misleading statements."

December 1993: In the January 1994 Spectator, Brock, now on the
magazine's staff, writes about what would come to be called
"Troopergate": allegations by Arkansas state troops that they helped
procure women for Clinton when he was Arkansas governor.

October 1996: Brock's much-awaited biography of Hillary Rodham
Clinton, The Seduction of Hillary Rodham, is an unexpectedly
sympathetic portrait that startles and angers many of his conservative
supporters.

July 1997: In an Esquire magazine article titled "I Was A Right- Wing
Hit Man," Brock writes that because of the way conservatives
dispossessed him over the Hillary Clinton biography, "I want out.
David Brock the Road Warrior of the Right is dead."

November 1997: Brock is fired from the staff of the Spectator.

April 1998: In an open letter to President Clinton published in
Esquire, Brock apologizes for his "Troopergate" expose, which he says
was written not "in the interest of good government or serious
journalism," but as part of an anti-Clinton crusade.

June 2001: The August issue of Talk magazine publishes an adaptation
from Brock's forthcoming book, Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of
an Ex-Conservative. In it, Brock says he "lost his soul" by knowingly
writing things about Hill that he knew were not true, and became "a
witting cog in the Republican sleaze machine."



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Based on that copy/paste operation, it *is* apparently safe to
presume that your response to my former question (...Would you
agree that those who rely upon and place faith in blatantly
biased websites like mediamatters.org are not equally (to
borrow your phrase) "mentally deficient"?...) is a resounding
YES!

-=jd=-



David December 19th 04 11:23 PM


O'Reilly LIES!! Limbaugh LIES!! Sean Hannity LIES!!

It's not spin. It's not bias. It's lying.



David December 20th 04 02:46 PM

So instead of refuting my allegation that these people lie, you change
the subject.

Our country is doomed if people like me, who only insist on factual
accuracyin the news media, are branded as ''naive...extremists''.




On 20 Dec 2004 02:07:48 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:

On Sun 19 Dec 2004 06:23:08p, David wrote in
message :


O'Reilly LIES!! Limbaugh LIES!! Sean Hannity LIES!!

It's not spin. It's not bias. It's lying.


Apologies if I struck a nerve. I've noticed extremists like
yourself tend to have very tender toes that are often too easily
stepped on. It's just a bit amusing to see you present yourself
and your preferred information sources as (purportedly) the
bastion of truth and unbiased information. It's cute in a "Puh-
leeeze!!" kind of way... Like I said before, if you want to wear
that yoke of hypocracy like a badge of honor, that's *your* bag.
Just don't cop an attitude if we get a chuckle out of your
naivety - and at your expense.

-=jd=-



MnMikew December 20th 04 06:51 PM


"David" wrote in message
...

O'Reilly LIES!! Limbaugh LIES!! Sean Hannity LIES!!

It's not spin. It's not bias. It's lying.

Rather LIES! Moore LIES! Al Franken LIES!

It's not spin. It's not bias. It's lying.



David December 21st 04 03:17 AM

You can't argue with an ideologue. It's like trying to deprogram a
cultist.

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:51:02 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .

O'Reilly LIES!! Limbaugh LIES!! Sean Hannity LIES!!

It's not spin. It's not bias. It's lying.

Rather LIES! Moore LIES! Al Franken LIES!

It's not spin. It's not bias. It's lying.



dxAce December 21st 04 08:14 AM



David wrote:

You can't argue with an ideologue. It's like trying to deprogram a
cultist.


Go tote your portable, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:51:02 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .

O'Reilly LIES!! Limbaugh LIES!! Sean Hannity LIES!!

It's not spin. It's not bias. It's lying.

Rather LIES! Moore LIES! Al Franken LIES!

It's not spin. It's not bias. It's lying.



MnMikew December 21st 04 06:08 PM

You would know oh great loony one.

"David" wrote in message
...
You can't argue with an ideologue. It's like trying to deprogram a
cultist.

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:51:02 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .

O'Reilly LIES!! Limbaugh LIES!! Sean Hannity LIES!!

It's not spin. It's not bias. It's lying.

Rather LIES! Moore LIES! Al Franken LIES!

It's not spin. It's not bias. It's lying.






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