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dxAce December 7th 04 05:17 PM

OT Lesson From a Real Christian Nation (aka Scalia is bonkers)
 


David wrote:

[ idiotic BS snipped yet again]

Talk about tripping... Rickets, you take the cake!

Now go tote your Sirius portable, boy... emphasis on the 'boy', and leave the
shortwave and dx to those who are obviously your superiors.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


m II December 7th 04 06:12 PM

dxAce wrote:

Now go tote your Sirius portable, boy... emphasis on the 'boy', and leave the
shortwave and dx to those who are obviously your superiors.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



http://wilstar.net/midi/bugsmaroon.wav

Ace, Ace, Ace....you pathetic hillbilly.

You don't appear to have had an original thought since Eisenhower was
in Office and even that one backfired when the outhouse blew up with
the still.

As always, you are wrong. Very opinionated, but wrong. Here are some
international test results in math. So much for your US IQ tests. They
were so far off the mark that I suspect YOU had something to do with
it. Finland was number one.

Please get someone to read the following page to you.


=================================
The United States ranked 24th on the list, and Washington was
criticized by Andreas Schleicher, the coordinator of the report, for
the way it spends education money. Canada was #11.

http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Dec...c3ad8a08a.html
=================================

dxAce December 7th 04 06:15 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Now go tote your Sirius portable, boy... emphasis on the 'boy', and leave the
shortwave and dx to those who are obviously your superiors.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


http://wilstar.net/midi/bugsmaroon.wav

Ace, Ace, Ace....you pathetic hillbilly.


Although I am certainly not a hillbilly as you suggest, even an ordinary 'ol
hillbilly is far ahead of any Canadian.

Get over it 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



m II December 7th 04 06:35 PM

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:


dxAce wrote:

Now go tote your Sirius portable, boy... emphasis on the 'boy', and leave the
shortwave and dx to those who are obviously your superiors.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


http://wilstar.net/midi/bugsmaroon.wav

Ace, Ace, Ace....you pathetic hillbilly.



Although I am certainly not a hillbilly as you suggest, even an ordinary 'ol
hillbilly is far ahead of any Canadian.

Get over it 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



That's pretty much the insulting, predictable answer from someone who
is 24th rank in the world. Perhaps spending those Billions on your
schools instead of giving it to Cheney's company may be the answer. I
don't imagine you understand why education is important, you've never
been in need of it.


http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Dec...c3ad8a08a.html



mike

dxAce December 7th 04 06:38 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:


dxAce wrote:

Now go tote your Sirius portable, boy... emphasis on the 'boy', and leave the
shortwave and dx to those who are obviously your superiors.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


http://wilstar.net/midi/bugsmaroon.wav

Ace, Ace, Ace....you pathetic hillbilly.



Although I am certainly not a hillbilly as you suggest, even an ordinary 'ol
hillbilly is far ahead of any Canadian.

Get over it 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



That's pretty much the insulting, predictable answer from someone who
is 24th rank in the world. Perhaps spending those Billions on your
schools instead of giving it to Cheney's company may be the answer. I
don't imagine you understand why education is important, you've never
been in need of it.

http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Dec...c3ad8a08a.html


Well, I can certainly understand why you think it's terribly important... you are in
dire need of it!

LMAO at the ridiculous Canadian.

Now, either go tote your portable, boy, or try to dream up yet another stupid reply.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David December 7th 04 06:53 PM

Leave it to you to side with Hitler...

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:17:10 -0500, dxAce wrote:



David wrote:

[ idiotic BS snipped yet again]

Talk about tripping... Rickets, you take the cake!

Now go tote your Sirius portable, boy... emphasis on the 'boy', and leave the
shortwave and dx to those who are obviously your superiors.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce December 7th 04 06:56 PM



David wrote:

Leave it to you to side with Hitler...


You really don't realize just how stupid you are, do you?

(And of course, you don't)

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Bruce Jensen December 7th 04 07:50 PM

Now, just a damn minute - I don't agree with the bulk of the politics
of many of the conservatives on this newsgroup, and I don't agree that
GWB should be mixing his policies with religious principles, and I
certainly think Hitler sucks - but it is a *huge* stretch to suggest
that GWB is even from the same universe as Hitler, and it is is silly
to suggest also that dxAce or anyone else who regularly responds to
these messages is a neo-Nazi. That is just plain demagoguery, as bad
or worse than anything from either side these days - and for the woman
whose work you quote above to make this statement shows that her mind,
however intelligent and rational she may be, is set on stirring up
emotions using whatever weird analogies she can dredge up.

Is there a danger that US politics can sink as low as those of the
Third Reich? Sure - it is always true, of every country everywhere.
Are we anywhere near that yet? No person in his or her right mind with
any thorough knowledge of current events would hesitate to answer this
correctly, but just in case it is not obvious - NO, we are nowhere
close. The policies of this country suggest just the opposite (which
in fact may be too far left in some cases, as illegal immigrants from
Mexico flood in and that door also remains flung wide open to anyone
from anywhere).

Bruce Jensen


Bruce Jensen December 7th 04 07:51 PM

Now, just a damn minute - I don't agree with the bulk of the politics
of many of the conservatives on this newsgroup, and I don't agree that
GWB should be mixing his policies with religious principles, and I
certainly think Hitler sucks - but it is a *huge* stretch to suggest
that GWB is even from the same universe as Hitler, and it is is silly
to suggest also that dxAce or anyone else who regularly responds to
these messages is a neo-Nazi. That is just plain demagoguery, as bad
or worse than anything from either side these days - and for the woman
whose work you quote above to make this statement shows that her mind,
however intelligent and rational she may be, is set on stirring up
emotions using whatever weird analogies she can dredge up.

Is there a danger that US politics can sink as low as those of the
Third Reich? Sure - it is always true, of every country everywhere.
Are we anywhere near that yet? No person in his or her right mind with
any thorough knowledge of current events would hesitate to answer this
correctly, but just in case it is not obvious - NO, we are nowhere
close. The policies of this country suggest just the opposite (which
in fact may be too far left in some cases, as illegal immigrants from
Mexico flood in and that door also remains flung wide open to anyone
from anywhere).

Bruce Jensen


Brian Hill December 7th 04 08:26 PM


"m II" wrote in message
news:VJmtd.50163$VL6.30846@clgrps13...
dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:


dxAce wrote:

Now go tote your Sirius portable, boy... emphasis on the 'boy', and

leave the
shortwave and dx to those who are obviously your superiors.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


http://wilstar.net/midi/bugsmaroon.wav

Ace, Ace, Ace....you pathetic hillbilly.



Although I am certainly not a hillbilly as you suggest, even an ordinary

'ol
hillbilly is far ahead of any Canadian.

Get over it 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



That's pretty much the insulting, predictable answer from someone who
is 24th rank in the world. Perhaps spending those Billions on your
schools instead of giving it to Cheney's company may be the answer. I
don't imagine you understand why education is important, you've never
been in need of it.


http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Dec...c3ad8a08a.html



mike


Tis the season to be jolly!

B.H.



Brian Hill December 7th 04 08:35 PM


"m II" wrote in message :

Ace, Ace, Ace....you pathetic hillbilly.




Troll the ancient Yuletide carol! Fa la la la la la la la la. :)

B.H.





dxAce December 7th 04 09:07 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Now go tote your Sirius portable, boy... emphasis on the 'boy', and leave the
shortwave and dx to those who are obviously your superiors.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


http://wilstar.net/midi/bugsmaroon.wav

Ace, Ace, Ace....you pathetic hillbilly.

You don't appear to have had an original thought since Eisenhower was
in Office and even that one backfired when the outhouse blew up with
the still.

As always, you are wrong. Very opinionated, but wrong. Here are some
international test results in math. So much for your US IQ tests. They
were so far off the mark that I suspect YOU had something to do with
it. Finland was number one.

Please get someone to read the following page to you.

=================================
The United States ranked 24th on the list, and Washington was
criticized by Andreas Schleicher, the coordinator of the report, for
the way it spends education money. Canada was #11.

http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Dec...c3ad8a08a.html
=================================


If everyone in Canada is so dang smart, as you seem to be claiming, how do you
explain your own personal situation? You seem to be a wee bit below the norm.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Michael Lawson December 7th 04 09:11 PM

Godwin!!

Ace wins.

--Mike L.

"David" wrote in message
...
Leave it to you to side with Hitler...

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:17:10 -0500, dxAce

wrote:



David wrote:

[ idiotic BS snipped yet again]

Talk about tripping... Rickets, you take the cake!

Now go tote your Sirius portable, boy... emphasis on the 'boy', and

leave the
shortwave and dx to those who are obviously your superiors.

dxAce
Michigan
USA






MnMikew December 7th 04 09:11 PM


"David" wrote in message
...
Leave it to you to side with Hitler...

Leave it to you to side with the loony left chicken little.




MnMikew December 7th 04 09:16 PM

Now that Canaduh is getting Fox perhaps they will be enlightened. Bill
O'Reilly nailed this one;

Secular progressives realize that America as it is now will never approve of
gay marriage, partial birth abortion, euthanasia, legalized drugs, income
redistribution through taxation, and many other progressive visions because
of religious opposition.

But if the secularists can destroy religion in the public arena, the brave
new progressive world is a possibility. That's what happened in Canada.

The facts:

.. In 1980, 79 percent of Canadians said that religion was important for the
nation there. That number has now dropped to 61percent.

.. In 1971, less than one percent of the Canadian population reported having
no religion. That number has now risen to 16 percent.

The fall of religion in Canada has corresponded to the rise in progressive
public policy. Most Canadians now favor gay marriage. The age of consent for
sex is 14 years. That means if you're an adult and you have sex with a
15-year-old, that's fine.

Welfare's double what it is in the USA. And the Canadian military is almost
non-existent.

Drug decriminalization is a reality, as is any kind of abortion. The
Canadian model is what progressive Americans are shooting for. Thus,
Christian displays like Christmas must be scaled back because the connection
with Judeo-Christian beliefs is bad for the secular agenda.

Now most people, of course, love Christmas and want to keep its traditions,
but the secular movement has influence in the media, among some judges and
politicians. Americans will lose their country if they don't begin to take
action. Any assault on Judeo-Christian philosophy should be fought.






Brian Hill December 7th 04 11:27 PM


"m II" wrote in message

As always, you are wrong. Very opinionated, but wrong. Here are some
international test results in math. So much for your US IQ tests. They
were so far off the mark that I suspect YOU had something to do with
it. Finland was number one.

Please get someone to read the following page to you.


=================================
The United States ranked 24th on the list, and Washington was
criticized by Andreas Schleicher, the coordinator of the report, for
the way it spends education money. Canada was #11.

http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Dec...c3ad8a08a.html
=================================


I got family in Finland on my Dads side. I spent some time visiting my
cousin in Turku. We got drunk as hell and sat in the sauna. Then we all ran
around naked and jumped in the freezing water and beat each other with
sticks. Yea their some real smart MFs over there. LOL!!! :)


--
73 and good DXing.
Brian
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Howard December 8th 04 02:59 AM

On 7 Dec 2004 11:51:39 -0800, "Bruce Jensen"
wrote:

Now, just a damn minute - I don't agree with the bulk of the politics
of many of the conservatives on this newsgroup, and I don't agree that
GWB should be mixing his policies with religious principles, and I
certainly think Hitler sucks - but it is a *huge* stretch to suggest
that GWB is even from the same universe as Hitler, and it is is silly
to suggest also that dxAce or anyone else who regularly responds to
these messages is a neo-Nazi. That is just plain demagoguery, as bad
or worse than anything from either side these days - and for the woman
whose work you quote above to make this statement shows that her mind,
however intelligent and rational she may be, is set on stirring up
emotions using whatever weird analogies she can dredge up.

Is there a danger that US politics can sink as low as those of the
Third Reich? Sure - it is always true, of every country everywhere.
Are we anywhere near that yet? No person in his or her right mind with
any thorough knowledge of current events would hesitate to answer this
correctly, but just in case it is not obvious - NO, we are nowhere
close. The policies of this country suggest just the opposite (which
in fact may be too far left in some cases, as illegal immigrants from
Mexico flood in and that door also remains flung wide open to anyone
from anywhere).

Bruce Jensen


Well said Bruce!

[email protected] December 8th 04 03:03 AM

I like that part in the Easy Rider movie when Jack Nicholson drinks his
booze and raises his right elbow and says,NIK! NIK! NIK!
cuhulin


m II December 8th 04 04:44 AM

wrote:
I like that part in the Easy Rider movie when Jack Nicholson drinks his
booze and raises his right elbow and says,NIK! NIK! NIK!
cuhulin



So...just how does not making it across the Parish line relate to the
Christmas season? Well..other than the fact the Nicholson would make
the best Grinch ever.


ho ho ho




m II December 8th 04 04:48 AM

Brian Hill wrote:

I got family in Finland on my Dads side. I spent some time visiting my
cousin in Turku. We got drunk as hell and sat in the sauna. Then we all ran
around naked and jumped in the freezing water and beat each other with
sticks. Yea their some real smart MFs over there. LOL!!! :)


Is Finland the home of the Lutkefisk abomination? May be
Norway..either way, I'd be armed with a stick too if anyone got near
me with that gastronomical equivalent of nerve gas.





mike

m II December 8th 04 04:51 AM

Howard wrote:

Well said Bruce!


Two years ago the US government put out feelers to see if death camps
would be accepted by the public. That in itself says enough.





mike

Michael Lawson December 8th 04 01:51 PM


"m II" wrote in message
news:nLvtd.209$U47.193@clgrps12...
Howard wrote:

Well said Bruce!


Two years ago the US government put out feelers to see if death

camps
would be accepted by the public. That in itself says enough.


Cite??

--Mike L.




BDK December 8th 04 03:08 PM

In article ,
says...

"m II" wrote in message
news:nLvtd.209$U47.193@clgrps12...
Howard wrote:

Well said Bruce!


Two years ago the US government put out feelers to see if death

camps
would be accepted by the public. That in itself says enough.


Cite??

--Mike L.





Oh, this should be good...

For a chuckle...

BDK

David December 8th 04 03:14 PM

Fascism has always been around, just inches below the surface. We are
primed and the next perceived crisis may well be the one where the
brainwashed masses give up on a free society in favor of one where a
benevolent father figure apparently protects them from all demons real
and (mostly) imagined.

Look at how the masses have embraced the largely inaccurate and
sensationalist Fox News Channel. Not because it reports well, but
because it helps feed their paranoia, to which they have become
addicted.

Study your history. Start he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

On 7 Dec 2004 11:50:55 -0800, "Bruce Jensen"
wrote:

Now, just a damn minute - I don't agree with the bulk of the politics
of many of the conservatives on this newsgroup, and I don't agree that
GWB should be mixing his policies with religious principles, and I
certainly think Hitler sucks - but it is a *huge* stretch to suggest
that GWB is even from the same universe as Hitler, and it is is silly
to suggest also that dxAce or anyone else who regularly responds to
these messages is a neo-Nazi. That is just plain demagoguery, as bad
or worse than anything from either side these days - and for the woman
whose work you quote above to make this statement shows that her mind,
however intelligent and rational she may be, is set on stirring up
emotions using whatever weird analogies she can dredge up.

Is there a danger that US politics can sink as low as those of the
Third Reich? Sure - it is always true, of every country everywhere.
Are we anywhere near that yet? No person in his or her right mind with
any thorough knowledge of current events would hesitate to answer this
correctly, but just in case it is not obvious - NO, we are nowhere
close. The policies of this country suggest just the opposite (which
in fact may be too far left in some cases, as illegal immigrants from
Mexico flood in and that door also remains flung wide open to anyone
from anywhere).

Bruce Jensen



MnMikew December 8th 04 06:06 PM


"David" wrote in message
...

Look at how the masses have embraced the largely inaccurate and
sensationalist Fox News Channel. Not because it reports well, but
because it helps feed their paranoia, to which they have become
addicted.

So Fox is more sensational than say CBS or NBC? You have to be kidding! Have
you been under a rock for the last year? What do you think these outlets
feed YOU? Of course you rubes take it hook, line and sinker.




m II December 9th 04 12:39 AM

Michael Lawson wrote:
"m II" wrote in message
news:nLvtd.209$U47.193@clgrps12...

Howard wrote:


Well said Bruce!


Two years ago the US government put out feelers to see if death


camps

would be accepted by the public. That in itself says enough.



Cite??




Ashcroft was busy that week. Notice all the references to domestic
concentration camps.

========================


http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...G=Search&meta=

http://snipurl.com/b86r



http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...Search&me ta=

http://snipurl.com/b86j0



http://www.altavista.com/web/results...&kgs =1&kls=0

http://snipurl.com/b86g



This may be a fringe site, but they name sources that may be verified.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

Michael Lawson December 9th 04 01:22 AM

Only one from a reputable news source in the top three
pages. "US" also means "us", and there are enough
references to Nuremburg in the top results as well.

Saying that "because you can search it and something
comes up in google must mean that there's something
there" isn't good enough. I can type in "cincinnati
bengals super bowl winners" and get results, but that
doesn't mean that the men in orange and black have won
a Super Bowl.

--Mike L.

"m II" wrote in message
news:s9Ntd.5797$U47.3598@clgrps12...
Michael Lawson wrote:
"m II" wrote in message
news:nLvtd.209$U47.193@clgrps12...

Howard wrote:


Well said Bruce!

Two years ago the US government put out feelers to see if death


camps

would be accepted by the public. That in itself says enough.



Cite??




Ashcroft was busy that week. Notice all the references to domestic
concentration camps.

========================



http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...G=Search&meta=

http://snipurl.com/b86r




http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...Search&me ta=

http://snipurl.com/b86j0




http://www.altavista.com/web/results...&kgs =1&kls=0

http://snipurl.com/b86g



This may be a fringe site, but they name sources that may be

verified.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm





m II December 9th 04 02:13 AM

-=jd=- wrote:

/knowing-nod on
It's probably good enough for Art Bell...
/knowing-nod off


I get the distinct impression that you feel Mr. Bell may not always
be the pinnacle of unbiased reporting. He hasn't been the same since
that episode in the desert, so a bit of slack may be in order, ok?





mike

m II December 9th 04 02:33 AM

Michael Lawson wrote:
Only one from a reputable news source in the top three
pages. "US" also means "us", and there are enough
references to Nuremburg in the top results as well.

Saying that "because you can search it and something
comes up in google must mean that there's something
there" isn't good enough. I can type in "cincinnati
bengals super bowl winners" and get results, but that
doesn't mean that the men in orange and black have won
a Super Bowl.



It's easy enough to look deeper. I can understand why you wouldn't
want to, because then your conscience might bother you. Your
government has been hijacked by the most vile monsters known to
mankind...those that kill and torture for profit.


======================================
Camp Delta death chamber plan

Prisoners at Guantanamo Bay

Some detainees may be executed if convicted at military trials
A court and execution chamber could be built at the US detention camp
in Cuba under plans being drawn up by military officials.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2979076.stm




=======================================
US plans death camp
26may03

THE US has floated plans to turn Guantanamo Bay into a death camp,
with its own death row and execution chamber. Prisoners would be
tried, convicted and executed without leaving its boundaries, without
a jury and without right of appeal, The Mail on Sunday newspaper
reported yesterday.

The plans were revealed by Major-General Geoffrey Miller, who is in
charge of 680 suspects from 43 countries, including two Australians.
The suspects have been held at Camp Delta on Cuba without charge for
18 months.

General Miller said building a death row was one plan. Another was to
have a permanent jail, with possibly an execution chamber.


http://www.nielsenhayden.com/makingl...es/002651.html

=========================================

Although the death camp is “seen as logical by the US,” according to
the Herald Sun, international human rights activists are infuriated.
“This camp was created to execute people,” said Jonathan Turley, an
American law professor who has led civil rights protests against
Guantanamo Bay military tribunals. “The administration has no interest
in long-term prison sentences for people it regards as hard-core
terrorists.”


http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_...s/10572-1.html

m II December 9th 04 02:36 AM

Michael Lawson wrote:
Only one from a reputable news source in the top three
pages. "US" also means "us", and there are enough
references to Nuremburg in the top results as well.

Saying that "because you can search it and something
comes up in google must mean that there's something
there" isn't good enough. I can type in "cincinnati
bengals super bowl winners" and get results, but that
doesn't mean that the men in orange and black have won
a Super Bowl.



and another one. There are many more, if only you'd care enough to
look. Don't let them do this in your name.


http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/arti...cid=33&did=591

m II December 9th 04 02:42 AM

-=jd=- wrote:

Hey! It was a sincere, knowing-nod! I had the raised-eyebrows,
pursed-lips - the whole contemplative-ponderment thing
going...



Oh...I see..well..cough...cough..that's ok then. We can't have our
greatest investigative reporter being slighted on the merest of whims,
can we now?

His troubling episode with sinister forces in the moonlit desert
notwithstanding, of course. He's still healing from the ordeal.





mike

David December 9th 04 01:50 PM

All TV News sucks.

If you think one is good and another is bad that just shows how
brainwashed you are. They're all chock full of ankle deep coverage of
complex issues, jingoism and dizzying spin.

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:06:35 -0600, "MnMikew"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .

Look at how the masses have embraced the largely inaccurate and
sensationalist Fox News Channel. Not because it reports well, but
because it helps feed their paranoia, to which they have become
addicted.

So Fox is more sensational than say CBS or NBC? You have to be kidding! Have
you been under a rock for the last year? What do you think these outlets
feed YOU? Of course you rubes take it hook, line and sinker.




David December 9th 04 01:54 PM

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:59:02 -0500, dxAce wrote:

The Arabs no doubt see the situation as a threat from both sides. The
paranoia builds. The genius Bush then comes out with his 'Crusade'
blunder and makes things even worse.

Most of the world no doubt sees the Missile defense shield as a means
of preventing revenge attacks after the US goes on a conquest binge
under the guise of pre-emptive, before the fact obliteration of
another dozen countries. Scary? Sure, but plausible.

The first country the USA ever attacked was Libya. We've been ****ing
with the Moslems ever since. Their wariness is warranted. Bin Laden
has a list. The toughest thing on it is for us to deal fairly with
Israel and Palestine and to not take sides in that struggle. Seems
doable.

Michael Lawson December 9th 04 02:53 PM

So, which is it? "Death camp" where thousands are killed
for the crime of being jewish/muslim/whatever, or a prison
camp that has an execution chamber, where those who have
been convicted of capital crimes can be executed?

The whole shock value and (apparent) satisfaction of
saying "Death Camps" relys on the fact that like most
maximum security prisons in the US, the prison at
Guantanamo will have an execution chamber. Why we
haven't heard "the US has DEATH CAMPS all over it's
landscape!!" for the past 25 years or so probably has
everything to do with the current administrations' policies,
and not any real desire for change.

Therefore, shouting about this now when nothing has
really changed is the equivalent of the Howler Monkey
Syndrome. Just like the other thread; if you really wish
Americans dead or think they are stinking piles of crap,
why not do more than just hurl feces at Americans??
If we're really all degenerates who are a threat and
abomination to the world, why are you sitting at home
conversing with us??

--Mike L.


"m II" wrote in message
news:qQOtd.5815$U47.3211@clgrps12...
Michael Lawson wrote:
Only one from a reputable news source in the top three
pages. "US" also means "us", and there are enough
references to Nuremburg in the top results as well.

Saying that "because you can search it and something
comes up in google must mean that there's something
there" isn't good enough. I can type in "cincinnati
bengals super bowl winners" and get results, but that
doesn't mean that the men in orange and black have won
a Super Bowl.



It's easy enough to look deeper. I can understand why you wouldn't
want to, because then your conscience might bother you. Your
government has been hijacked by the most vile monsters known to
mankind...those that kill and torture for profit.


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Camp Delta death chamber plan

Prisoners at Guantanamo Bay

Some detainees may be executed if convicted at military trials
A court and execution chamber could be built at the US detention

camp
in Cuba under plans being drawn up by military officials.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2979076.stm




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US plans death camp
26may03

THE US has floated plans to turn Guantanamo Bay into a death camp,
with its own death row and execution chamber. Prisoners would be
tried, convicted and executed without leaving its boundaries,

without
a jury and without right of appeal, The Mail on Sunday newspaper
reported yesterday.

The plans were revealed by Major-General Geoffrey Miller, who is in
charge of 680 suspects from 43 countries, including two Australians.
The suspects have been held at Camp Delta on Cuba without charge for
18 months.

General Miller said building a death row was one plan. Another was

to
have a permanent jail, with possibly an execution chamber.


http://www.nielsenhayden.com/makingl...es/002651.html

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Although the death camp is "seen as logical by the US," according to
the Herald Sun, international human rights activists are infuriated.
"This camp was created to execute people," said Jonathan Turley, an
American law professor who has led civil rights protests against
Guantanamo Bay military tribunals. "The administration has no

interest
in long-term prison sentences for people it regards as hard-core
terrorists."



http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_...s/10572-1.html




Bruce Jensen December 9th 04 05:09 PM

You're a paranoid guy.

By the way, Fox isn't nearly as embraced as you'd think. Many watch it
- I do on occasion - but I can tell that you every person on that
network would collapse under a challenge from an intelligent objective
reviewer (including Hannity, O'Reilly, and all the rest), and I would
bet that many who watch understand the same thing. not only that, but
they still only capture a few percent of the viewing public, a smaller
percent of the overall population.

One thing that is obvious is that Bush has not surrounded himself with
people that help him make wise decisions. Every member of his cabinet
at one time or another has opened his/her mouth and said something
utterly kooky. Most recently, Tommy Thompson, the ex-cabinet member,
opined that he couldn't believe that terrorists have not yet attacked
our food supply, with so much of our food coming from the Mid-East.
This comment is nutty on so many levels that one wonders how he ever
got into politics (or out of elementary school).

Bush is the Warren G. Harding of the 21st century. Neither is a
Fascist, despite the the later president's incredible mode of
operation. The only difference is that Bush is healthier...although we
understand he used to be an alkie too.

Bruce Jensen


Bruce Jensen December 9th 04 05:16 PM

In addition to what everyone else has said about reliability of this
information, I will say that I remember the episode, and I also
remember that the idea was flatly trounced by anyone with a brain. It
was withdrawn, quickly, and not raised again that I know of.

This does not sound like a Nazi nation to me. I am certain that the
people of the US on average are strong enough to see through this kind
of nonsense at a glance. We love freedom, and we love that our
Constitution takes pains to guarantee it. It takes a pretty big
problem to wants to restrict those freedoms, and an offhanded
suggestion of excessive internal security isn't going to make the big
time.

Bruce Jensen


m II December 9th 04 10:08 PM

Michael Lawson wrote:

So, which is it? "Death camp" where thousands are killed
for the crime of being jewish/muslim/whatever, or a prison
camp that has an execution chamber, where those who have
been convicted of capital crimes can be executed?


(snipped)


If all it takes for you to absolve the US of war crimes is the VOLUME
of people processed through the 'execution chambers', you are one sick
puppy.

Convicted? How? There no courts. No witnesses. Prisoners can not be
killed at the whim of the victors. Geneva doesn't apply to you?

As for doing something, I am. Maroon 'Ace' keeps saying he's invading
us. I'll just wait. Master Maroon Fort agrees with him in everything
he says.

My heart goes out to the Decent Americans everywhere who are shaking
their heads in disbelief and sorrow as the neocons dismantle the
integrity of a once proud Nation.




mike

dxAce December 9th 04 10:12 PM



m II wrote:

Michael Lawson wrote:

So, which is it? "Death camp" where thousands are killed
for the crime of being jewish/muslim/whatever, or a prison
camp that has an execution chamber, where those who have
been convicted of capital crimes can be executed?


(snipped)

If all it takes for you to absolve the US of war crimes is the VOLUME
of people processed through the 'execution chambers', you are one sick
puppy.

Convicted? How? There no courts. No witnesses. Prisoners can not be
killed at the whim of the victors. Geneva doesn't apply to you?

As for doing something, I am. Maroon 'Ace' keeps saying he's invading
us. I'll just wait. Master Maroon Fort agrees with him in everything
he says.

My heart goes out to the Decent Americans everywhere who are shaking
their heads in disbelief and sorrow as the neocons dismantle the
integrity of a once proud Nation.


Versus never able to be proud CanaDuh?

Now go pay allegience to your colonial masters, 'tard boy.

I hear the bonny prince is casting about for a new boyfriend.

LMAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce December 9th 04 10:48 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:


Michael Lawson wrote:


So, which is it? "Death camp" where thousands are killed
for the crime of being jewish/muslim/whatever, or a prison
camp that has an execution chamber, where those who have
been convicted of capital crimes can be executed?

(snipped)

If all it takes for you to absolve the US of war crimes is the VOLUME
of people processed through the 'execution chambers', you are one sick
puppy.

Convicted? How? There no courts. No witnesses. Prisoners can not be
killed at the whim of the victors. Geneva doesn't apply to you?

As for doing something, I am. Maroon 'Ace' keeps saying he's invading
us. I'll just wait. Master Maroon Fort agrees with him in everything
he says.

My heart goes out to the Decent Americans everywhere who are shaking
their heads in disbelief and sorrow as the neocons dismantle the
integrity of a once proud Nation.



Versus never able to be proud CanaDuh?

Now go pay allegience to your colonial masters, 'tard boy.

I hear the bonny prince is casting about for a new boyfriend.

LMAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA



You've got nothing to be proud of. The US Federal Reserve banking
system is run out of England. Didn't know that, did you Maroon?. You
can't even run your own banking system. What a joke.

I once read somewhere that the States were given independence, but
that there was to be a yearly payment, in perpetuity, to England as a
form of rental fees. That rental is still being made today.

YOU may look that up. I don't know if you CAN look it up, however.


Why don't you just show us all the cite on that one 'tard boy. Ask mommy first
if you can spend more time on her computer though.

LMAO more and more every day at CanaDuh.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Michael Lawson December 9th 04 10:50 PM

What, you've never heard of military tribunals for
military personnel?

My question stands, because the two are different
types. A member of the US military convicted of a
capital crime can be sentenced to death. Quite different
than executing prisoners of war or mass murder.

Does that make Nuremberg a "Death Camp"?? Hardly.
But the inference is there, because people were executed
there, that I because I think that the trials at Nuremberg
were justified as were the outcome, that I must be one
sick puppy. Or that because I feel that a guy by the
name of Dahmer should have been executed, I am a sick
puppy.

--Mike L.


"m II" wrote in message
news:914ud.3745$eb3.2812@clgrps13...
Michael Lawson wrote:

So, which is it? "Death camp" where thousands are killed
for the crime of being jewish/muslim/whatever, or a prison
camp that has an execution chamber, where those who have
been convicted of capital crimes can be executed?


(snipped)


If all it takes for you to absolve the US of war crimes is the

VOLUME
of people processed through the 'execution chambers', you are one

sick
puppy.

Convicted? How? There no courts. No witnesses. Prisoners can not be
killed at the whim of the victors. Geneva doesn't apply to you?

As for doing something, I am. Maroon 'Ace' keeps saying he's

invading
us. I'll just wait. Master Maroon Fort agrees with him in everything
he says.

My heart goes out to the Decent Americans everywhere who are shaking
their heads in disbelief and sorrow as the neocons dismantle the
integrity of a once proud Nation.




mike






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