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lsmyer December 9th 04 06:47 PM

Air America lands funding, reups Franken
 
This headline made it sound like Air Amerika had gotten some type of public
funding, but it was just more money being pumped in by its investors.

Hmmm.... I thought commercial radio was supposed to be funded by
commercials. Or maybe that's only when it produces a commercially viable
product.

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news...&w=RTR&coview=




Al Dykes December 9th 04 06:55 PM

In article ,
lsmyer wrote:
This headline made it sound like Air Amerika had gotten some type of public
funding, but it was just more money being pumped in by its investors.

Hmmm.... I thought commercial radio was supposed to be funded by
commercials. Or maybe that's only when it produces a commercially viable
product.

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news...&w=RTR&coview=




"suposed to" ?

Huh ?

There's private companies and public companies. The owners of a
private companies get to keep all the profits and don't have to listen
to grumbling stockholders at the annual public meeting, or report lots
of stuff to the SEC. There are reasons why companes go public, but in
general they wish they didn't have to. (stock speculation is a whole
other discussion.)

It took several years for Fox Cable to need private funding.

They seem to be doing fine, about 40 stations, plus XM, Serius,
and internet streaming.


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RHF December 9th 04 10:02 PM

TB,

Your repeated posts with the same message that is unrelated to the
original posting is oh so boring.


You are a perfect example of the NEO-DEM Political Cadre; who are
'preachers' of Class Warfare, Hate Speech and Fear Mongering.


You apparently see anyone who does not feel and believe as you do
as an Enemy-of-the-People.
..
so say i - my opinions stated as facts ~ RHF
..
..


David Eduardo December 9th 04 11:19 PM


"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
This headline made it sound like Air Amerika had gotten some type of
public funding, but it was just more money being pumped in by its
investors.

Hmmm.... I thought commercial radio was supposed to be funded by
commercials. Or maybe that's only when it produces a commercially viable
product.


All startups are funded by investor.



David Eduardo December 9th 04 11:21 PM


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
.44...
(Al Dykes) wrote in :

It took several years for Fox Cable to [not] need private funding.


Several years, and much more than $100,000,000 of financing. For a
piddly million viewers at any given time, tops. Usually much less than
500,000.

In contrast, Air America Radio usually has more than a quarter million
listeners just on its web stream, probably 3 or 4 million on the radio at
any given time. And Air America just came out of the gate in April.


The AQH on AA on radio is less than 250,000.



RHF December 9th 04 11:48 PM

DE,

To a Political Cadre like "TB": 250,000 has a "Propaganda Factor" of
Ten Times (10X) which means 2.5M; then you have to count the Doubling
Factor (2X) of those who would have listened; had they known that they
should be listening; which makes the 'new-reality-number' about 5M.

So when "TB" claims 3M to 4M divide by 10 to 20 and 300K to 200K is
a 'fair' estimate.

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jftfoi ~ RHF
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David Eduardo December 10th 04 11:42 AM


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
9...
Quoth "David Eduardo" in news:p65ud.31286
:

The AQH on AA on radio is less than 250,000.


Really? That's very interesting information, thanks.

Sampled when? The most recent quarterly book?


October trend. And I gave benefit of the doubt for the non-rated markets
like Key West. The actual measured figure is probaby more like 175,000.

I'd also be very interested to know what the AQH is for the
individual programs.


Subscribers are not allowed to release this data publically.

Also, I have read elsewhere that Rush's AQH is about 3 million. Is
this correct?


That is the range. His cume is much higher.



David December 10th 04 03:43 PM

How many if you include Sirius, XM and the WWW?

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:42:23 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 69...
Quoth "David Eduardo" in news:p65ud.31286
:

The AQH on AA on radio is less than 250,000.


Really? That's very interesting information, thanks.

Sampled when? The most recent quarterly book?


October trend. And I gave benefit of the doubt for the non-rated markets
like Key West. The actual measured figure is probaby more like 175,000.

I'd also be very interested to know what the AQH is for the
individual programs.


Subscribers are not allowed to release this data publically.

Also, I have read elsewhere that Rush's AQH is about 3 million. Is
this correct?


That is the range. His cume is much higher.



dxAce December 10th 04 03:47 PM



David wrote:

How many if you include Sirius, XM and the WWW?


Not as many as Rush has!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:42:23 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 69...
Quoth "David Eduardo" in news:p65ud.31286
:

The AQH on AA on radio is less than 250,000.

Really? That's very interesting information, thanks.

Sampled when? The most recent quarterly book?


October trend. And I gave benefit of the doubt for the non-rated markets
like Key West. The actual measured figure is probaby more like 175,000.

I'd also be very interested to know what the AQH is for the
individual programs.


Subscribers are not allowed to release this data publically.

Also, I have read elsewhere that Rush's AQH is about 3 million. Is
this correct?


That is the range. His cume is much higher.



David December 10th 04 06:04 PM

Mediocrity always attracts big numbers. What's #1 on the TV? Who
watches that ****?

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:47:15 -0500, dxAce wrote:



David wrote:

How many if you include Sirius, XM and the WWW?


Not as many as Rush has!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:42:23 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
. 69...
Quoth "David Eduardo" in news:p65ud.31286
:

The AQH on AA on radio is less than 250,000.

Really? That's very interesting information, thanks.

Sampled when? The most recent quarterly book?

October trend. And I gave benefit of the doubt for the non-rated markets
like Key West. The actual measured figure is probaby more like 175,000.

I'd also be very interested to know what the AQH is for the
individual programs.

Subscribers are not allowed to release this data publically.

Also, I have read elsewhere that Rush's AQH is about 3 million. Is
this correct?

That is the range. His cume is much higher.




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