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I'm new to the hobby of SWL, and currently studying for a amateur radio license. I'm using a Sony ICF-2010 as my primary radio. I apologize if my question is OT, but I'm interested in picking up distant MW signals. One of my better catches would have to be WICC on 600 kHz broadcasting from Bridgeport, CT @ 500 W, and approx. 350 miles from me (reciever is in downeast Maine.) Anyway, my goal is to pick up a signal from each of the 48 contiguous states. In addition to the 2010 I've got a Terk loop. Is this setup adequate for my goal (assuming "luck" as a factor)? I'd add that I'm limited to indoor antennas at this time. I suppose I will need to pay more attention to timing.... Also, I was trying to listen for a signal on the aeronautical band. The 2010 was picking up music from the AM/FM radio in the adjacent room... confusing at first, since I couldn't understand why the AB would be host to syphonic music. I don't quite understand how the AM/FM being on would cause this to happen.... thanks, M. |
Maturin wrote:
I'm new to the hobby of SWL, and currently studying for a amateur radio license. I'm using a Sony ICF-2010 as my primary radio. I apologize if my question is OT, but I'm interested in picking up distant MW signals. One of my better catches would have to be WICC on 600 kHz broadcasting from Bridgeport, CT @ 500 W, and approx. 350 miles from me (reciever is in downeast Maine.) Anyway, my goal is to pick up a signal from each of the 48 contiguous states. In addition to the 2010 I've got a Terk loop. Is this setup adequate for my goal (assuming "luck" as a factor)? I'd add that I'm limited to indoor antennas at this time. I suppose I will need to pay more attention to timing.... The 2010 is primarily a shortwave radio. For MW you're gonna need a radio that is just an AM/FM radio, and that has good MW circuitry. Examples would be a GE Superadio 3 or a Sangean CCRadio. I'm surprised nobody has responded to you yet, since there are plenty of people here who are familiar with MW DXing. You'll probably need to make your own loop, since most ready made loop antennas are designed for SW. Also, since you're in Maine, you'll have a hard time picking up MW stations from west of the Rocky Mountains (likewise, people in California rarely pick up anything east of Denver). It can be done under exceptional propagation conditions but that doesn't happen very often. Also, I was trying to listen for a signal on the aeronautical band. The 2010 was picking up music from the AM/FM radio in the adjacent room... confusing at first, since I couldn't understand why the AB would be host to syphonic music. I don't quite understand how the AM/FM being on would cause this to happen.... The aero band is like the police and fire bands-if you're tuning across the band at random you'll be unlikely to hear anything unless you're near a major airport. This is because the aero, police, and fire bands are "point to point" transmissions. Unlike a regular broadcast station that puts out a signal all the time, planes and towers only broadcast when they're communicating, and are silent the rest of the time. (Same thing with a police car or a fire truck communicating with central dispatch.) For public service bands you'll need a specific radio called a "scanner", go to rec.radio.scanner. The 2010 is not designed for either MW DX or public service band listening, it's designed for shortwave listening. thanks, M. -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =----- |
"running dogg" wrote in message
... The 2010 is primarily a shortwave radio. For MW you're gonna need a radio that is just an AM/FM radio, and that has good MW circuitry. The 2010 is not designed for either MW DX or public service band listening, it's designed for shortwave listening. Yes, that's fair to say the 2010 isn't for MW DX. But I just wanted to comment that I use a 2010 (well, an ICF-2001D, identical radio) for MW DX. For example, I can often listen to Radio Fiji 1, out of Suva, Fiji (12 kiloWatts) from here in Auckland, New Zealand. That's 1,150 nautical miles away, so I consider that to be MW DX. Mark. Auckland New Zealand. |
"Maturin" wrote in message ... I'm new to the hobby of SWL, and currently studying for a amateur radio license. I'm using a Sony ICF-2010 as my primary radio. I apologize if my question is OT, but I'm interested in picking up distant MW signals. One of my better catches would have to be WICC on 600 kHz broadcasting from Bridgeport, CT @ 500 W, and approx. 350 miles from me (reciever is in downeast Maine.) Anyway, my goal is to pick up a signal from each of the 48 contiguous states. In addition to the 2010 I've got a Terk loop. Is this setup adequate for my goal (assuming "luck" as a factor)? I'd add that I'm limited to indoor antennas at this time. I suppose I will need to pay more attention to timing.... Also, I was trying to listen for a signal on the aeronautical band. The 2010 was picking up music from the AM/FM radio in the adjacent room... confusing at first, since I couldn't understand why the AB would be host to syphonic music. I don't quite understand how the AM/FM being on would cause this to happen.... Well, I would have to disagree with the poster who suggested the 2010 was not adequate for MW dx. I have a portable quite inferior to yours(dx-398) with which I logged 1120 KMOX St. Louis, and 1080 WTIC Hartford, Ct. from my qth in Wilmington, NC last night without any external antenna at all, and those are just the two that I recall off hand. I do agree however that it would prove difficult to say the least to log 48 states on MW, but I'll leave that for someone more knowledgeable to comment on. You'll probably want to construct a box loop antenna or some such for the mw band. There are several sites with instructions on how to build various types of mw loops on the internet. Good luck. -Brian |
Why not go for all 50 States -- for best bets see URL:
http://ac6v.com/clearam.htm#50 -- Caveat Lecter "Maturin" wrote in message ... I'm new to the hobby of SWL, and currently studying for a amateur radio license. I'm using a Sony ICF-2010 as my primary radio. I apologize if my question is OT, but I'm interested in picking up distant MW signals. One of my better catches would have to be WICC on 600 kHz broadcasting from Bridgeport, CT @ 500 W, and approx. 350 miles from me (reciever is in downeast Maine.) Anyway, my goal is to pick up a signal from each of the 48 contiguous states. In addition to the 2010 I've got a Terk loop. Is this setup adequate for my goal (assuming "luck" as a factor)? I'd add that I'm limited to indoor antennas at this time. I suppose I will need to pay more attention to timing.... SNIP Question 2 thanks, M. |
"running dogg" wrote Maturin wrote: Also, I was trying to listen for a signal on the aeronautical band. The 2010 was picking up music from the AM/FM radio in the adjacent room... confusing at first, since I couldn't understand why the AB would be host to syphonic music. I don't quite understand how the AM/FM being on would cause this to happen.... The aero band is like the police and fire bands-if you're tuning across the band at random you'll be unlikely to hear anything unless you're near a major airport. This is because the aero, police, and fire bands are "point to point" transmissions. Unlike a regular broadcast station that puts out a signal all the time, planes and towers only broadcast when they're communicating, and are silent the rest of the time. (Same thing with a police car or a fire truck communicating with central dispatch.) For public service bands you'll need a specific radio called a "scanner", go to rec.radio.scanner. The 2010 is not designed for either MW DX or public service band listening, it's designed for shortwave listening. Aeronautical Mobile is allocated thousands of frequencies from MW (2000+ Khz range) all the way up through most of the entire HF spectrum. These are all in USB mode. Portable radios that can select "SSB" will also receive these but may need to fine-tune to the upper sideband. Nighttime frequencies will be lower, daytime higher for New York Center/New York Oceanic, Gander Radio, Shanwick, etc. All transoceanic flights use aeronautical-mobile MW and HF frequencies. Just for starters, try night frequencies of 2.899Mhz, 3.016Mhz, 5.598Mhz, 5.616Mhz, 5.649Mhz Daytime frequencies of 8.825Mhz, 8.864Mhz, 8.879Mhz, 8.903Mhz, 8.906Mhz, 11.396Mhz, 13.306Mhz As to your second problem, turn off other radios and television, dimmer-switches, low-voltage lighting and halogen-dimmers when you are SW listening. They are all "transmitters" to your highly sensitive little SW radio. If you have a short wire antenna with the radio, use it and put the wire around a window or outside completely. Good luck, Jack |
"Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:GOfyd.12163$JI.5760@fed1read07... Why not go for all 50 States -- for best bets see URL: http://ac6v.com/clearam.htm#50 -- Caveat Lecter Great link. -Brian |
Back in the 1950's almost any cheap little transistor radio I owned that
had five or six transistors could at night time pick up some radio stations in New York City and Denver and Detroit and Minneapolis and a radio station in either (I forget which city now) Los Angeles or Sacramento. cuhulin |
People who live in the East coast area's of America can pick up some
European MW radio stations with their ordinary radio's at night time.In 1960,one night I was driving along the A1A highway to Miami and I picked up a radio station in Ireland on my car radio. cuhulin |
Heck, I used to get 40 states and Canada and Mexico on my old
Astronaut-8 and a 60 ft. wire from Massachusetts, and I didn't know what I was doing.. MW is not that hard if you just spend a bit of time at the right moments. Bruce Jensen |
bpnjensen wrote:
Heck, I used to get 40 states and Canada and Mexico on my old Astronaut-8 and a 60 ft. wire from Massachusetts, and I didn't know what I was doing.. MW is not that hard if you just spend a bit of time at the right moments. Was the sixty foot wire from Massachusetts attached to a cable company on the other end? I bet being so close you could wave to their secretary.. mike |
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) writes: Back in the 1950's almost any cheap little transistor radio I owned that had five or six transistors could at night time pick up some radio stations in New York City and Denver and Detroit and Minneapolis and a radio station in either (I forget which city now) Los Angeles or Sacramento. cuhulin But one of the immediate problems is closer stations getting in the way of distant stations. A local station will block the use of that frequency, unless you wait till it goes off the air for some reason. Same if KDKA is booming in. The problem of receiving distant stations can't come into play until you can eliminate closer stations. Michael |
Howdy - Actually, this set-up predated cable by quite a few years!
Mid-1970s. It was strung up in some of our BIG trees. We were lucky - way out in the sticks of west-central state, we had no QRM to speak of, and fine dark skies at night for astronomy. Could hear Arthur Cushen on RNZ's little transmitter from half a world away easily. KFI - LA was an infrequent but definite visitor. Could hear Lome, Togo 5047 too, while here it's just a weak heterodyne on SSB. Lord, how I miss it. Urban California is a sad, sad substitute. sigh Bruce Jensen |
An MFJ-1025/26 does this pretty nicely if your offending station is
groundwave, a bit more difficult if your station is skywave. It helps to disable the MW attenuation (easily done, not easily reversible). Bruce Jensen |
m II wrote:
wrote: Back in the 1950's almost any cheap little transistor radio I owned that had five or six transistors could at night time pick up some radio stations in New York City and Denver and Detroit and Minneapolis and a radio station in either (I forget which city now) Los Angeles or Sacramento. I would not have thought that there were any CHEAP five or six transistor radios in the fifties. Didn't the Sixties bring in the less expensive sets? You win. It wasn't until the little Japanese companies flooded the market with cheapies that the prices became very affordable. Before that, an all-transistor, American-made radio cost about one week's take-home pay. -- The state religion of the USA is atheism, as established by the courts. |
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I'm using a Sony ICF-2010 as my primary radio. I
apologize if my question is OT, but I'm interested in picking up distant MW signals. One of my better catches would have to be WICC on 600 kHz broadcasting from Bridgeport, CT @ 500 W, and approx. 350 miles from me (reciever is in downeast Maine.) Anyway, my goal is to pick up a signal from each of the 48 contiguous states. In addition to the 2010 I've got a Terk loop. Is this setup adequate for my goal (assuming "luck" as a factor)? I'd add that I'm limited to indoor antennas at this time. I suppose I will need to pay more attention to timing.... The 2010 is primarily a shortwave radio. For MW you're gonna need a radio that is just an AM/FM radio, and that has good MW circuitry. Examples would be a GE Superadio 3 or a Sangean CCRadio. Huh? I would say that the 2010 and its Sync Detector will beat out the GE and CC radios every single time. I have the GE SR2 and a Sony 7600GR. I can tell you that I much prefer by far the 7600 with its Sync Detector on MW. Also, the use of SSB mode in the cluttered MW band is priceless. |
The aero band is like the police and fire bands-if you're tuning across
the band at random you'll be unlikely to hear anything unless you're near a major airport. This is because the aero, police, and fire bands are "point to point" transmissions That's what I thought he meant at firsst, also. The VHF aircraft band. However, I now think he was talking about the shortwave aircraft bands. Those do supposedly propagate worldwide. |
Brian wrote:
Well, I would have to disagree with the poster who suggested the 2010 was not adequate for MW dx. I have a portable quite inferior to yours(dx-398) with which I logged 1120 KMOX St. Louis, and 1080 WTIC Hartford, Ct. from my qth in Wilmington, NC last night without any external antenna at all, and those are just the two that I recall off hand. I do agree however that it would prove difficult to say the least to log 48 states on MW, but I'll leave that for someone more knowledgeable to comment on. You'll probably want to construct a box loop antenna or some such for the mw band. There are several sites with instructions on how to build various types of mw loops on the internet. Good luck. -Brian The 2010 has more than enough sensitivity and AM selectivity with the sync' detector for MW Dx'ing. All it needs is a good antenna and possibly a passive preselector to control intermod's from strong local MW stations. -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =----- |
m II wrote:
wrote: Back in the 1950's almost any cheap little transistor radio I owned that had five or six transistors could at night time pick up some radio stations in New York City and Denver and Detroit and Minneapolis and a radio station in either (I forget which city now) Los Angeles or Sacramento. I would not have thought that there were any CHEAP five or six transistor radios in the fifties. Didn't the Sixties bring in the less expensive sets? The first generation of transistor radios cost several hundred dollars in today's money, which is similar to the first pocket calculators in the 70's. -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =----- |
A1A to Miami that night.They was in Maryknoll,Ireland playing them
Uillean Pipes over there and it scared the Coon Dog crap out of me! I had to pull over and listen for a while.I am Schotch Eyrie by ancestry so I hope y'all understand.(double whammy on me) cuhulin |
KDKA is the only radio station East of the Mississippi River that
begin's with a K.If I remember,there is only one other radio station West of the Mississippi River (I live about forty miles East of the big muddy) that begin's with a W.But I am old and senile (that married Irish woman wayyyyyy over across the big pond spells senile with a p) and I don't remember exactly. cuhulin |
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dxAce wrote: wrote: KDKA is the only radio station East of the Mississippi River that begin's with a K. I think there may still be a few exceptions with regards to the K call's east of the Mississippi, and there are certainly quite a few with regards to the W west of the Mississippi. I can come up with at least two K calls other than KDKA, they are KFNS, Wood River, Illinois and KQV also in Pittsburgh, there may be a couple more, but they are indeed rare these days. dxAce Michigan USA |
Not these days see URL:
http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm -- LC wrote in message ... KDKA is the only radio station East of the Mississippi River that begin's with a K.If I remember,there is only one other radio station West of the Mississippi River (I live about forty miles East of the big muddy) that begin's with a W.But I am old and senile (that married Irish woman wayyyyyy over across the big pond spells senile with a p) and I don't remember exactly. cuhulin |
For a map showing K's east and W's west -- see URL:
http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm -- LC "dxAce" wrote in message ... wrote: KDKA is the only radio station East of the Mississippi River that begin's with a K. I think there may still be a few exceptions with regards to the K call's east of the Mississippi, and there are certainly quite a few with regards to the W west of the Mississippi. dxAce Michigan USA |
Pittsburgh also has KYW as I recall. Texas is lousy...with W
stations. On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:48:49 -0800, "Left Coast" wrote: Not these days see URL: http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm |
David wrote: Pittsburgh also has KYW as I recall. Texas is lousy...with W stations. KYW is in Phiadelphia. dxAce Michigan USA |
They are all W's in the state of confusion I live in.I reckon I better
get up off of my doggys couch now and start wrapping them Christmas presents and put on my cleanest dirty clothes.I am supose to be over at my sister and brother in law's house at high noon today to do the Christmas thingy. cuhulin |
Gee Whiz Guys and Gals -- see the map
http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm -- LC "David" wrote in message ... Pittsburgh also has KYW as I recall. Texas is lousy...with W stations. On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:48:49 -0800, "Left Coast" wrote: Not these days see URL: http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm |
Pittsburgh has
KDKA 1020 KQV 1410 KYW is in Philadelphia Bob "David" wrote in message ... Pittsburgh also has KYW as I recall. Texas is lousy...with W stations. On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:48:49 -0800, "Left Coast" wrote: Not these days see URL: http://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm |
Hey thanks; news I can use.
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:57:20 -0500, dxAce wrote: David wrote: Pittsburgh also has KYW as I recall. Texas is lousy...with W stations. KYW is in Phiadelphia. dxAce Michigan USA |
wrote in message ... KDKA is the only radio station East of the Mississippi River that begin's with a K.If I remember,there is only one other radio station West of the Mississippi River (I live about forty miles East of the big muddy) that begin's with a W.But I am old and senile (that married Irish woman wayyyyyy over across the big pond spells senile with a p) and I don't remember exactly. cuhulin WBAP Ft. Worth. WHO Des Moines. ?? k35454. |
OK,I guess I haven't been keeping up with the K's and W's lately.
cuhulin |
wrote in message ... OK,I guess I haven't been keeping up with the K's and W's lately. cuhulin No sweat. And yes, I'm in Canada. k35454. |
"David" wrote in message ... Pittsburgh also has KYW as I recall. Texas is lousy...with W stations. WTAW, WBAP, WACO, WOAI, WRR... 5 out of 886 is not "lousy with" anything. |
Excuse the **** out of me.
Texas is lousy. Better? On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 17:27:00 GMT, "David Eduardo" wrote: "David" wrote in message .. . Pittsburgh also has KYW as I recall. Texas is lousy...with W stations. WTAW, WBAP, WACO, WOAI, WRR... 5 out of 886 is not "lousy with" anything. |
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