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The Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver's
"Genealogy" is RL Drake : SW1 SW2 SW8 GS800M E1 XM .. .. The Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium was based on the RL Drake SW8 'portable' AM/MW and Shortwave Radio. SW8 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw8.htm Designed in collaboration with the R.L. Drake Company, borrowing many features from the Drake Model SW8 Radio. .. I have no doubt that RL Drake used what ever "Leasons Learn" from the Drake R8, R8A and R8B Receivers to make any practical and cost efective product improvements to the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium during it's Design and Development. That would simply be 'good business'. .. FWIW - RL Drake was also involved in the Design and Development of the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio. .. AFAIK - Tecsun GEM China (PRC) continues to be the Production Design and Manufacturing Facility for the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium and now is doing the same for the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio. .. IMHO - That the 'overall' Product Design, Development and Manufacturing "Genealogy" for these Radios follows: .. FIRST Generation (G1.0) = Drake SW8 (Including the Drake SW1 & SW2) G1.3 - SW8 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw8.htm G1.2 - SW2 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw2.htm G1.1 - SW1 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/ssr1.htm .. SECOND Generation (G2.0) = Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium G2.0 - GS800M = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htm Designed in collaboration with the R.L. Drake Company, borrowing many features from the Drake Model SW8 Radio. .. Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Satellit800/ WELCOME - All Are Welcome to "Join" the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! .. THIRD Generation (G3.0) = Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio .. G3.0 - E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/...tID=4&prodID=9 .. E1 XM SPECS = http://tinyurl.com/4477b PDF = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/specs/E1XM.pdf http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/...2&sub CatID=4 eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ .. "Eton E1 Radio plus XM Satellite Receiver" eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ .. WELCOME - All Are Welcome to "Join" the the Eton E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ .. .. ~ RHF .. .. |
SW8
On 6 Jan 2005 16:48:04 -0800, "RHF" wrote: The Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver's "Genealogy" is RL Drake : SW1 SW2 SW8 GS800M E1 XM . . The Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium was based on the RL Drake SW8 'portable' AM/MW and Shortwave Radio. SW8 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw8.htm Designed in collaboration with the R.L. Drake Company, borrowing many features from the Drake Model SW8 Radio. . I have no doubt that RL Drake used what ever "Leasons Learn" from the Drake R8, R8A and R8B Receivers to make any practical and cost efective product improvements to the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium during it's Design and Development. That would simply be 'good business'. . FWIW - RL Drake was also involved in the Design and Development of the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio. . AFAIK - Tecsun GEM China (PRC) continues to be the Production Design and Manufacturing Facility for the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium and now is doing the same for the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio. . IMHO - That the 'overall' Product Design, Development and Manufacturing "Genealogy" for these Radios follows: . FIRST Generation (G1.0) = Drake SW8 (Including the Drake SW1 & SW2) G1.3 - SW8 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw8.htm G1.2 - SW2 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw2.htm G1.1 - SW1 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/ssr1.htm . SECOND Generation (G2.0) = Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium G2.0 - GS800M = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htm Designed in collaboration with the R.L. Drake Company, borrowing many features from the Drake Model SW8 Radio. . Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Satellit800/ WELCOME - All Are Welcome to "Join" the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! . THIRD Generation (G3.0) = Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio . G3.0 - E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/...tID=4&prodID=9 . E1 XM SPECS = http://tinyurl.com/4477b PDF = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/specs/E1XM.pdf http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/...2&sub CatID=4 eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ . "Eton E1 Radio plus XM Satellite Receiver" eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ . WELCOME - All Are Welcome to "Join" the the Eton E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ . . ~ RHF . . |
Eton E1 XM Radio Due Our in March 2005 ?
We Can 'only' Hope... and Dream On ! .. PAUL, .. The History of the Grundig Satellit 900 . . . and now the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio is full of Hopes and Dreams ! ! ! .. DAILY "WATCH" Webpages for Price and Availability of the Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver .. * Universal-Radio.Com product webpage for the new Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html NOTE - Still States : Expected February 2005 and there is No Price Listed as of : 9 JAN 2005 .. ETON Corp.Com product webpage for the new Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/...tID=4&prodID=9 NOTE - No Price is Listed as of : 9 JAN 2005 .. .. wishing, hoping and praying ~ RHF .. . .. . All are Welcome and Invited to Join the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ The Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver .. . .. . = = = In , = = = "pabigelow" pbigelow@u... wrote: Hello, If they keep delaying it, an essential chip is going to go out of production and then..... Wait, that sounds familiar! ;-) Paul |
PHIL,
.. "WHY" I would Buy the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio .. I would agree with you, that in many respects the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellit Radio should be a better receiver than the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium, and I love my GS800M. .. What have been many of the problems and grips that have been written about here with the GS800M. - Small Ferrite Rod Antenna - Internal RF Noise from the Radios Circuits - Hash from the LCD Display. and many more . . . all this in a big, Big. BIG ! Box. .. Well for Eton / Drake /Tecsun to take the GS800M and place it into a much smaller Box; would mean that at least two of the above problems would have had to be Fix or at least significantly reduced to at least the same performance levels as the GS800M. .. Imagine a GS800M with a 'lower' Noise Floor and able to "Hear" those Weak Signals that are just now on the edge of Listenability with the GS800M. .. The nature of the Business Product Process Cycle is to Continously Seek to Build-It-Better and Make-It-Cheaper. [ Increase the Value of the Product to the Customer. ] .. The Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium was ETON Corps Premier [Flag Ship] "Big Box" Radio. The Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio is designed to be ETON Corps Premier 'Small Box' Radio. For ETON Corp, the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio has to be at least as-good-as the GS800M; and ideally much better. Remember, it has been four years since ETON Corp has released the GS800M and it need a New STAR for it's Consumer Marketing "Image". If the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio is as-good-as the GS800M and in a 'smaller' Box; it will be a Hit with the Buying Public. (An Executive Gift) However, if the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio is much better than the GS800M; then it will be a Hit with the Radio Enthusiast who will feel they need to "Got-to-Have-It !" .. Please Note - That when I write about the Eton E1 XM Radio; I 'label' it as the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio. That is because 'for me' what it is as the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver is what I am interested in as a Radio. What it will do as an AM/MW, FM and Shortwave Radio is the "Why" that will make 'me' want to Buy it. The fact that it also comes 'with' XM Satellit Radio is not a Selling Point for me. .. .. For now all we can do is wait and keep listening ~ RHF .. . All are Welcome and Invited to Join the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ The Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver .. . .. . * * * EXTRACTED from Grundig Satellit 800 eGroup on YAHOO ! = = = In , = = = "just_rtfm" just_rtfm@y... wrote: .. Message - "WHY" I would Buy the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Satellit800/message/8903 .. hi Michael: .. i see no reason to doubt Drake, who designed the R8B, SW8, and Sat800. IMO the E1XM will surpass the performance of the Sat800 due to the PBT. add small size [S350-like], 1700 memories, and likely 5-kHz tuning steps . . . it should be a winner. .. regards, phil :) .. .. Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Satellit800/ WELCOME - All Are Welcome to "Join" the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! .. .. |
AMIN,
.. You will NEVER Convince a RL Drake R8B Receiver Owner that an Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM satellite Radio is as-good-as a "R8B" [.] - - - And I Did NOT and Would NOT Make That Claim. .. I am simply suggesting the it should be as-good-as the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium; and just 'possibly' a little better. Plus it will be a Real 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio with the capabilities of the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium; and that ain't bad. .. The Proof will be in the Radio Listening Experience ! .. For Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium "Big Sound" Quality just add a Set (2S+1B) of Self Powered Computer Stereo Speakers with a center Bass Sub-Woofer and individual Right and Left Channel (Side) Speakers. .. jm2cw ~ RHF .. All are Welcome and Invited to Join the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ The Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver .. .. = = = In , = = = "gt25psi2002" sha99@s... wrote: .. Hi there, .. I'm still doubt that E1XM uses the same 1st mixer and oscillator as Sat800. This is due to the fact that the lowest frequency able to be dialled-in is *100Hz* in both radios - this implies that they are subject to the same phase noise level. .. -R- There is more to a Radio's Circuity that will impact its Sensetivity and RF Noise Levels then simply the 1st Mixer/Osc and the fact that it uses a PPL Circuit Design. .. If Drake designs E1XM to be better than Sat800 (in this respect), then where will the R8B stand? Does Drake want the R8B to be killed by E1XM ? .. -R- See the Top Most Reply. .. ? Anyway, where can we get the E1XM "block diagram" ? .. -R- Well you can expect that ETON will not provide you with one. Most likely some?one will find a 'copy' of what ever name and model number is given to the Tecsun 'labeled' E1XM that will be for sale in China (PRC). .. Best regards, Amin .. .. = = = In , = = = "just_rtfm" just_rtfm@y... wrote: hi Michael: i see no reason to doubt Drake, who designed the R8B, SW8, and Sat800. IMO the E1XM will surpass the performance of the Sat800 due to the PBT. add small size [S350-like], 1700 memories, and likely 5-kHz tuning steps... it should be a winner. regards, phil :) |
DAVE,
.. Read about "Anthony's" Experience as Reported in Message # 112 .. Check-Out - Eton E1 XM Radio MSRP Price = $ 5 0 0 USD http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...io/message/112 .. Good Luck in Calling the ETON Corp and Verifying the Price and Availability of the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio. .. ETON CORP = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/ecart/view_cart1.aspx .. * USofA Toll-Free Number 1-800-872-2228 .. * Canada Toll-Free Number 1-800-637-1648 .. Please Tell Us {Post Here} What They Tell You :o) .. For now here is the 1/11 UPDATE for ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio "DAILY WATCH" .. . . for Price & Availability http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...io/message/133 .. * Universal-Radio.Com product webpage for the new Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html NOTE - Still States : Expected February 2005 and there is No Price Listed as of : UPDATE for UNIVERSAL-RADIO on 11 JAN 2005 = NO CHANGE [.] .. * ETON Corp.Com product webpage for the new Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/product.aspx? catID=2&subCatID=4&prodID=9 NOTE - No Price is Listed as of : UPDATE for ETON CORP on 11 JAN 2005 = NO CHANGE [.] .. ETON CORP - Will Tell Us - When They Tell Us .. . . and I Will Tell You - Or You Will Tell Me THEN WE WILL ALL KNOW ! - The Price ! - - The Availability ! ! - - - And A Lot More ! ! ! .. .. waiting, Waiting. WAITING ! ~ RHF .. .. All are WELCOME and Invited to JOIN the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ The Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio .. |
I predict that the 800 will be in production long after the E1 is put
to bed. And I would definitely avoid the first production run of the E1. |
RHF wrote: snip Please Note - That when I write about the Eton E1 XM Radio; I 'label' it as the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio. That is because 'for me' what it is as the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver is what I am interested in as a Radio. What it will do as an AM/MW, FM and Shortwave Radio is the "Why" that will make 'me' want to Buy it. The fact that it also comes 'with' XM Satellit Radio is not a Selling Point for me. . This gets at one of the worries I have about the E1. People who are interested in satellite radio can find satellite receivers much cheaper than the E1; and people who are interested in AM/FM can likewise find cheaper receivers. Now, my *sense*, and I stress that this is my *impression* and not the result of any sort of research, is that most people who are interested in satellite radio won't be attracted to the AM/FM capabilities of this receiver, and consequently they'll pass it over in favor of a less expensive satellite receiver. Likewise, SWLers will pass over the E1 because there are superior tabletop sets (Icom R-75, Palstar R30) in the SAME PRICE RANGE as the E1. Furthermore, the E1 will not have the benefit of the Grundig name. If I worked for Eton, this is what I'd be worried about...well, aside from whatever mechanical defects might emerge in the first production run. (I'm extremely curious to find out what the build quality is like on the E1. I hope it's built like a tank, but I can't help but worry.) |
It isn't the XM capability that is running the price up.
Cost of the XM chip to Eton is well under $1. |
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