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Eton E1 XM Radio "Up-Date" on Release Date and MSRP Price
FO&A,
.. Eton E1 XM Radio "Up-Date" on Release Date and MSRP Price .. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...dio/message/81 .. we should all... expect more & pay less ~ RHF .. .. |
RHF wrote:
FO&A, . Eton E1 XM Radio "Up-Date" on Release Date and MSRP Price . http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...dio/message/81 . we should all... expect more & pay less ~ RHF . . Why send us a link that forces us to join a group? Why not just tell us the date and price? -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
LOL Too funny! I just read that same message in the Yahoo Sat-800 group and
asked the same question you just did... "Brian Denley" wrote in message news:3yryd.620475$D%.314261@attbi_s51... RHF wrote: FO&A, . Eton E1 XM Radio "Up-Date" on Release Date and MSRP Price . http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...dio/message/81 . we should all... expect more & pay less ~ RHF . . Why send us a link that forces us to join a group? Why not just tell us the date and price? -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html |
BD,
Here is the most important part: "NEWS & FACTS: Look for some Real News [Facts] during the 2005 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) to be held in Las Vegas, Nevada on 6-9 January 2005 Check-Out CES Booth #30974" CES =3D http://www.etoncorp.com/US/corp/trad...aspx?index=3D4 .. To Find Out More . . . .. ETON Corp. {Grundig Radio North America} Press Releases. PRESS =3D http://www.etoncorp.com/US/corp/pres...aspx?index=3D3 [ What Eton Corp. has not said. ] .. Who is the Et=F3n Corporation ? ETON CORP =3D http://www.etoncorp.com/US/corp/about_us.aspx?index=3D1 .. OnLine FORM for Submitting a Question to ETON Corp FORM =3D http://www.etoncorp.com/US/support/help.aspx?index=3D12 We're here to Help you with Questions about any Et=F3n Corporation or Et=F3n Products and Services. QUESTIONS =3D http://www.etoncorp.com/US/support/help.aspx?index=3D12 Send Us Your Question using this Form. .. .. hth ~ RHF ETON E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ Eton E1 Radio + XM Satellite Receiver=20 ..=20 .. |
JH - Hey So You Did :o) ~ RHF
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RHF wrote:
BD, Here is the most important part: "NEWS & FACTS: Look for some Real News [Facts] during the 2005 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) to be held in Las Vegas, Nevada on 6-9 January 2005 Check-Out CES Booth #30974" CES = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/corp/tradeshows.aspx?index=4 . To Find Out More . . . . ETON Corp. {Grundig Radio North America} Press Releases. PRESS = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/corp/press_room.aspx?index=3 [ What Eton Corp. has not said. ] . Who is the Etón Corporation ? ETON CORP = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/corp/about_us.aspx?index=1 . OnLine FORM for Submitting a Question to ETON Corp FORM = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/support/help.aspx?index=12 We're here to Help you with Questions about any Etón Corporation or Etón Products and Services. QUESTIONS = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/support/help.aspx?index=12 Send Us Your Question using this Form. . . hth ~ RHF ETON E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ Eton E1 Radio + XM Satellite Receiver . . Here's a link with some product information, but no price or release date: http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/product_specs.aspx?specs=true&prodID=9&catID=2&sub CatID=4 It looks like they're now offering an outboard speaker so you can use it as a portable stereo. |
MSH - Hey, Now Thats A Good Link :o) ~ RHF
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Hell - I thought that it was a Mircophone and was starting to practice my 10-4s Good Buddy ;-} .. .. see ya on the flip-side ~ RHF .. .. |
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In article , says... RHF wrote: BD, Here is the most important part: "NEWS & FACTS: Look for some Real News [Facts] during the 2005 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) to be held in Las Vegas, Nevada on 6-9 January 2005 Check-Out CES Booth #30974" CES = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/corp/tradeshows.aspx?index=4 . To Find Out More . . . . ETON Corp. {Grundig Radio North America} Press Releases. PRESS = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/corp/press_room.aspx?index=3 [ What Eton Corp. has not said. ] . Who is the Etón Corporation ? ETON CORP = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/corp/about_us.aspx?index=1 . OnLine FORM for Submitting a Question to ETON Corp FORM = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/support/help.aspx?index=12 We're here to Help you with Questions about any Etón Corporation or Etón Products and Services. QUESTIONS = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/support/help.aspx?index=12 Send Us Your Question using this Form. . . hth ~ RHF ETON E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ Eton E1 Radio + XM Satellite Receiver . . Here's a link with some product information, but no price or release date: http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/product_specs.aspx?specs=true&prodID=9&catID=2&sub CatID=4 It looks like they're now offering an outboard speaker so you can use it as a portable stereo. That's not a speaker. It is the antenna for XM. Bummer. |
****ing asshole...
On 22 Dec 2004 16:42:39 -0800, "RHF" wrote: FO&A, . Eton E1 XM Radio "Up-Date" on Release Date and MSRP Price . http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...dio/message/81 . we should all... expect more & pay less ~ RHF . . |
David wrote: ****ing asshole... You should know, 'tard boy. Now go tote it. dxAce Michigan USA |
David wrote:
****ing asshole... Hey, don't you have an overmodulated, drifty, harmonic-riddled, third-world-grade transmitter to maintain? |
DaviD,
.. "****ing asshole..." .. Coming from 'you' that is and EXPERT Opinion :o) .. ~ RHF .. |
Johnps1964 wrote: In article .com, "RHF" writes: DaviD, . "****ing asshole..." . Coming from 'you' that is and EXPERT Opinion :o) . ~ RHF Gee what wonderful words some so called grown ups use in this group I am a stranger in a very strange land |
JOHNPS1964,
.. You are right. .. To DaviD - Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :o) .. God's Blessings Be With You; Your Family, Friends and Loved Ones - amen, Amen. and AMEN ! ~ rhf .. .. |
And still, no one has the common courtesy to give the price and
delivery date. On 23 Dec 2004 14:26:11 -0800, "RHF" wrote: JOHNPS1964, . You are right. . To DaviD - Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :o) . God's Blessings Be With You; Your Family, Friends and Loved Ones - amen, Amen. and AMEN ! ~ rhf . . |
Gee Boy Howdy "DaviD"
Once Again - Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :o) .. God's Blessings Be With You; Your Family, Friends and Loved Ones - amen, Amen. and AMEN ! ~ rhf .. .. |
DaviD,
Heres your Christmas Present :o) .. FULL TEXT : Eton E1 XM Radio "Up-Date" on Release Date and MSRP Price .. THE BIG PICTURE : Eton E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...le/e1xmlrg.jpg .. Replt To - RANDY, .. Thank You for the "TIP" .. So Eton Corp. is talking and the word is that the Eton E1 XM Radio will be 'out' Mid January 2005. .. It is interesting that the Price will be about =3DEqual=3D to the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radio. .. The 'original' MSRP for the Grundig Satellit 800 M Radio. was IIRC $699.95 and is now generally priced at $499.95. Currently Universal Radio has the Grundig Satellit 800 M Radio "On Sale" at $449.95. .. Per the Universal-Radio.Com WebSite http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html "This new model is expected February 2005. We will post the price as soon as available." Eton E1 XM AM/FM/SW/XM Radio Order #0101 List Price: TBA Your Price: TBA .. Per the Grundig-Radio.Com WebSite .. DESCRIPTION =3D http://tinyurl.com/6numg http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/product.aspx? catID=3D2&subCatID=3D4&prodID=3D9 .. SPECIFICATIONS =3D http://tinyurl.com/4477b http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/product_specs.aspx? specs=3Dtrue&prodID=3D9&catID=3D2&subCatID=3D4 .. TECSUN GEM CHINA (PRC) =3D http://tinyurl.com/58agq "The Eton E1 XM is the world's first radio that combines AM, FM, Shortwave, and XM Satellite radio into one ultra high-performance unit. In development for more than 10 years in collaboration with RL Drake Company and XM Satellite Radio, the E1 is simply the finest full-sized portable in the world." .. CLICK-ON "Ready To Buy" [Add To Cart] Button http://www.etoncorp.com/US/ecart/view_cart1.aspx "Shopping Cart" Message for the Eton E1 XM Radio 'Our et=F3n E-commerce site is temporarity under construction and will be available in the next few weeks. If you would like to place an order for any of our products Please Call our at: US Toll-Free Number 1-800-872-2228 and Canada Toll-Free Number 1-800-637-1648.' .. .. P R I C E - ABOUT THE MSRP AN WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO PAY: I would suspect that the Eton E1 XM Radio will have the $699.95 MSRP and that for the first few months that they will be sold at the Full MSRP of $699.95 until the fall off in 'demand' at that Price-Point warrants a Big "Price Discount" by the Retailers and OnLine Merchants. .. N E W S & F A C TS : Look for some Real News [Facts] during the 2005 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) to be held in Las Vegas, Nevada on 6-9 January 2005 Check-Out CES Booth #30974 CES =3D http://www.etoncorp.com/US/corp/trad...aspx?index=3D4 .. From RadioIntel.Com RADIO-INTEL =3D http://www.radiointel.com/ Eton To Announce Porsche Designed AM-FM-SW-XM Radios At CES 2005 - Models P`7131 & P`7132 Though the E1 has yet to hit the shelves, thanks to Gizmodo we learn that Eton will announce at CES 2005 two new models (a tabletop - P`7131 and a portable - P`7132) that both will feature XM and Shortwave. . Sneak peek photos can be found at Gizmodo and more details on Eton's website. Dec 13 [ Go there to Click-On and read the "Gizmodo" Link ] Plus the is 'more' Eton E1 XM Radio Information in the Old News Section of RadioIntel.Com http://www.radiointel.com/oldnews.htm .. From Thie.DE (Germany) E1XM Kurzwellenradio mit XM bzw. DAB Empfang (Vorabinfos) PLL Kurzwellen-Radio mit XM bzw. DAB Empfang und SSB http://www.thiecom.de/e1xm.htm Letzte Info: Die Europa Version soll OHNE XM oder sonstige digitale Zus=E4tze angeboten werden! .. =20 .. =20 just my opinion ~ RHF=20 .. =20 .. |
Well It Starts Tommorrow . . .
.. The 2005 International CES Show http://www.cesweb.org/default_flash.asp .. 6-9 January 2005 Las Vegas, Nevada (USA) .. ETON Corp. =3D http://tinyurl.com/647q6 CES Booth # 30974 http://www.cesweb.org/attendees/dire...s.asp?exhibid= =3D5154& .. What Will Be the News ? ? ? - - - About the Eton E1 XM Radio ! http://tinyurl.com/567o7 http://www.cesweb.org/attendees/show...duct_details.= asp?prodid=3D4377 The Et=F3n E1XM is the world's first radio that combines AM, FM, Shortwave, and XM Satellite Radio into one ultra high-performance unit. In development for more than 10 years in collaboration with RL Drake Company and XM Satellite Radio, the E1XM is simply the finest full-sized portable in the world. .. 'Other' New Eton Corp. Products: ETON Corp =3D http://tinyurl.com/647q6 * E10 Radio * E100 Radio * FR300 Radio * P'7140 Radio * P'7141 Radio .. Company Contact(s): .. Mr. Walter Hess, Technical Manager eMail =3D .. Mrs. Samantha Nguyen, Director of Marketing eMail =3D .. .. waiting, Waiting. WAITING ! ~ RHF .. ETON E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ Eton E1 Radio + XM Satellite Receiver=20 ..=20 .. |
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= = = "likquidnail" karlhess@y... wrote: FWIW - Eton Corp. has a full page ad in this week's issue of Newsweek. Features the Eton 'Elite' E1 Xm Radio with two other models. The Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio's Price listed as $500.00. Also provided is a "Direct Order" Telephone Number: 1-800-793-6542 along with a Promtional Code: NW21 ~ Karl Hess - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - KH, Thank You for this Information on the $500 USD Price {MSRP} of the 'new' Eton E1 XM Radio All Are "WELCOME" to JOIN the Eton E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! E1 XM RADIO = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ Where the Topic is the Eton E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver. .. .. ~ RHF .. .. |
The Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver's
"Genealogy" is RL Drake : SW1 SW2 SW8 GS800M E1 XM .. .. The Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium was based on the RL Drake SW8 'portable' AM/MW and Shortwave Radio. SW8 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw8.htm Designed in collaboration with the R.L. Drake Company, borrowing many features from the Drake Model SW8 Radio. .. I have no doubt that RL Drake used what ever "Leasons Learn" from the Drake R8, R8A and R8B Receivers to make any practical and cost efective product improvements to the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium during it's Design and Development. That would simply be 'good business'. .. FWIW - RL Drake was also involved in the Design and Development of the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio. .. AFAIK - Tecsun GEM China (PRC) continues to be the Production Design and Manufacturing Facility for the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium and now is doing the same for the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio. .. IMHO - That the 'overall' Product Design, Development and Manufacturing "Genealogy" for these Radios follows: .. FIRST Generation (G1.0) = Drake SW8 (Including the Drake SW1 & SW2) G1.3 - SW8 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw8.htm G1.2 - SW2 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw2.htm G1.1 - SW1 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/ssr1.htm .. SECOND Generation (G2.0) = Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium G2.0 - GS800M = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htm Designed in collaboration with the R.L. Drake Company, borrowing many features from the Drake Model SW8 Radio. .. Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Satellit800/ WELCOME - All Are Welcome to "Join" the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! .. THIRD Generation (G3.0) = Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio .. G3.0 - E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/...tID=4&prodID=9 .. E1 XM SPECS = http://tinyurl.com/4477b PDF = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/specs/E1XM.pdf http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/...2&sub CatID=4 eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ .. "Eton E1 Radio plus XM Satellite Receiver" eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ .. WELCOME - All Are Welcome to "Join" the the Eton E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ .. .. ~ RHF .. .. |
SW8
On 6 Jan 2005 16:48:04 -0800, "RHF" wrote: The Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver's "Genealogy" is RL Drake : SW1 SW2 SW8 GS800M E1 XM . . The Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium was based on the RL Drake SW8 'portable' AM/MW and Shortwave Radio. SW8 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw8.htm Designed in collaboration with the R.L. Drake Company, borrowing many features from the Drake Model SW8 Radio. . I have no doubt that RL Drake used what ever "Leasons Learn" from the Drake R8, R8A and R8B Receivers to make any practical and cost efective product improvements to the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium during it's Design and Development. That would simply be 'good business'. . FWIW - RL Drake was also involved in the Design and Development of the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio. . AFAIK - Tecsun GEM China (PRC) continues to be the Production Design and Manufacturing Facility for the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium and now is doing the same for the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio. . IMHO - That the 'overall' Product Design, Development and Manufacturing "Genealogy" for these Radios follows: . FIRST Generation (G1.0) = Drake SW8 (Including the Drake SW1 & SW2) G1.3 - SW8 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw8.htm G1.2 - SW2 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sw2.htm G1.1 - SW1 = http://www.dxing.com/rx/ssr1.htm . SECOND Generation (G2.0) = Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium G2.0 - GS800M = http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htm Designed in collaboration with the R.L. Drake Company, borrowing many features from the Drake Model SW8 Radio. . Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Satellit800/ WELCOME - All Are Welcome to "Join" the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! . THIRD Generation (G3.0) = Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio . G3.0 - E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/...tID=4&prodID=9 . E1 XM SPECS = http://tinyurl.com/4477b PDF = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/specs/E1XM.pdf http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/...2&sub CatID=4 eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ . "Eton E1 Radio plus XM Satellite Receiver" eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ . WELCOME - All Are Welcome to "Join" the the Eton E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ . . ~ RHF . . |
Eton E1 XM Radio Due Our in March 2005 ?
We Can 'only' Hope... and Dream On ! .. PAUL, .. The History of the Grundig Satellit 900 . . . and now the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM Radio is full of Hopes and Dreams ! ! ! .. DAILY "WATCH" Webpages for Price and Availability of the Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver .. * Universal-Radio.Com product webpage for the new Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html NOTE - Still States : Expected February 2005 and there is No Price Listed as of : 9 JAN 2005 .. ETON Corp.Com product webpage for the new Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/...tID=4&prodID=9 NOTE - No Price is Listed as of : 9 JAN 2005 .. .. wishing, hoping and praying ~ RHF .. . .. . All are Welcome and Invited to Join the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ The Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver .. . .. . = = = In , = = = "pabigelow" pbigelow@u... wrote: Hello, If they keep delaying it, an essential chip is going to go out of production and then..... Wait, that sounds familiar! ;-) Paul |
PHIL,
.. "WHY" I would Buy the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio .. I would agree with you, that in many respects the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellit Radio should be a better receiver than the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium, and I love my GS800M. .. What have been many of the problems and grips that have been written about here with the GS800M. - Small Ferrite Rod Antenna - Internal RF Noise from the Radios Circuits - Hash from the LCD Display. and many more . . . all this in a big, Big. BIG ! Box. .. Well for Eton / Drake /Tecsun to take the GS800M and place it into a much smaller Box; would mean that at least two of the above problems would have had to be Fix or at least significantly reduced to at least the same performance levels as the GS800M. .. Imagine a GS800M with a 'lower' Noise Floor and able to "Hear" those Weak Signals that are just now on the edge of Listenability with the GS800M. .. The nature of the Business Product Process Cycle is to Continously Seek to Build-It-Better and Make-It-Cheaper. [ Increase the Value of the Product to the Customer. ] .. The Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium was ETON Corps Premier [Flag Ship] "Big Box" Radio. The Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio is designed to be ETON Corps Premier 'Small Box' Radio. For ETON Corp, the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio has to be at least as-good-as the GS800M; and ideally much better. Remember, it has been four years since ETON Corp has released the GS800M and it need a New STAR for it's Consumer Marketing "Image". If the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio is as-good-as the GS800M and in a 'smaller' Box; it will be a Hit with the Buying Public. (An Executive Gift) However, if the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio is much better than the GS800M; then it will be a Hit with the Radio Enthusiast who will feel they need to "Got-to-Have-It !" .. Please Note - That when I write about the Eton E1 XM Radio; I 'label' it as the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio. That is because 'for me' what it is as the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver is what I am interested in as a Radio. What it will do as an AM/MW, FM and Shortwave Radio is the "Why" that will make 'me' want to Buy it. The fact that it also comes 'with' XM Satellit Radio is not a Selling Point for me. .. .. For now all we can do is wait and keep listening ~ RHF .. . All are Welcome and Invited to Join the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ The Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver .. . .. . * * * EXTRACTED from Grundig Satellit 800 eGroup on YAHOO ! = = = In , = = = "just_rtfm" just_rtfm@y... wrote: .. Message - "WHY" I would Buy the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Satellit800/message/8903 .. hi Michael: .. i see no reason to doubt Drake, who designed the R8B, SW8, and Sat800. IMO the E1XM will surpass the performance of the Sat800 due to the PBT. add small size [S350-like], 1700 memories, and likely 5-kHz tuning steps . . . it should be a winner. .. regards, phil :) .. .. Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! eGROUP = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Satellit800/ WELCOME - All Are Welcome to "Join" the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Receiver eGroup on YAHOO ! .. .. |
AMIN,
.. You will NEVER Convince a RL Drake R8B Receiver Owner that an Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM satellite Radio is as-good-as a "R8B" [.] - - - And I Did NOT and Would NOT Make That Claim. .. I am simply suggesting the it should be as-good-as the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium; and just 'possibly' a little better. Plus it will be a Real 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio with the capabilities of the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium; and that ain't bad. .. The Proof will be in the Radio Listening Experience ! .. For Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium "Big Sound" Quality just add a Set (2S+1B) of Self Powered Computer Stereo Speakers with a center Bass Sub-Woofer and individual Right and Left Channel (Side) Speakers. .. jm2cw ~ RHF .. All are Welcome and Invited to Join the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ The Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver .. .. = = = In , = = = "gt25psi2002" sha99@s... wrote: .. Hi there, .. I'm still doubt that E1XM uses the same 1st mixer and oscillator as Sat800. This is due to the fact that the lowest frequency able to be dialled-in is *100Hz* in both radios - this implies that they are subject to the same phase noise level. .. -R- There is more to a Radio's Circuity that will impact its Sensetivity and RF Noise Levels then simply the 1st Mixer/Osc and the fact that it uses a PPL Circuit Design. .. If Drake designs E1XM to be better than Sat800 (in this respect), then where will the R8B stand? Does Drake want the R8B to be killed by E1XM ? .. -R- See the Top Most Reply. .. ? Anyway, where can we get the E1XM "block diagram" ? .. -R- Well you can expect that ETON will not provide you with one. Most likely some?one will find a 'copy' of what ever name and model number is given to the Tecsun 'labeled' E1XM that will be for sale in China (PRC). .. Best regards, Amin .. .. = = = In , = = = "just_rtfm" just_rtfm@y... wrote: hi Michael: i see no reason to doubt Drake, who designed the R8B, SW8, and Sat800. IMO the E1XM will surpass the performance of the Sat800 due to the PBT. add small size [S350-like], 1700 memories, and likely 5-kHz tuning steps... it should be a winner. regards, phil :) |
DAVE,
.. Read about "Anthony's" Experience as Reported in Message # 112 .. Check-Out - Eton E1 XM Radio MSRP Price = $ 5 0 0 USD http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...io/message/112 .. Good Luck in Calling the ETON Corp and Verifying the Price and Availability of the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio. .. ETON CORP = http://www.etoncorp.com/US/ecart/view_cart1.aspx .. * USofA Toll-Free Number 1-800-872-2228 .. * Canada Toll-Free Number 1-800-637-1648 .. Please Tell Us {Post Here} What They Tell You :o) .. For now here is the 1/11 UPDATE for ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio "DAILY WATCH" .. . . for Price & Availability http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...io/message/133 .. * Universal-Radio.Com product webpage for the new Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html NOTE - Still States : Expected February 2005 and there is No Price Listed as of : UPDATE for UNIVERSAL-RADIO on 11 JAN 2005 = NO CHANGE [.] .. * ETON Corp.Com product webpage for the new Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/product.aspx? catID=2&subCatID=4&prodID=9 NOTE - No Price is Listed as of : UPDATE for ETON CORP on 11 JAN 2005 = NO CHANGE [.] .. ETON CORP - Will Tell Us - When They Tell Us .. . . and I Will Tell You - Or You Will Tell Me THEN WE WILL ALL KNOW ! - The Price ! - - The Availability ! ! - - - And A Lot More ! ! ! .. .. waiting, Waiting. WAITING ! ~ RHF .. .. All are WELCOME and Invited to JOIN the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ The Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio .. |
I predict that the 800 will be in production long after the E1 is put
to bed. And I would definitely avoid the first production run of the E1. |
RHF wrote: snip Please Note - That when I write about the Eton E1 XM Radio; I 'label' it as the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio. That is because 'for me' what it is as the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver is what I am interested in as a Radio. What it will do as an AM/MW, FM and Shortwave Radio is the "Why" that will make 'me' want to Buy it. The fact that it also comes 'with' XM Satellit Radio is not a Selling Point for me. . This gets at one of the worries I have about the E1. People who are interested in satellite radio can find satellite receivers much cheaper than the E1; and people who are interested in AM/FM can likewise find cheaper receivers. Now, my *sense*, and I stress that this is my *impression* and not the result of any sort of research, is that most people who are interested in satellite radio won't be attracted to the AM/FM capabilities of this receiver, and consequently they'll pass it over in favor of a less expensive satellite receiver. Likewise, SWLers will pass over the E1 because there are superior tabletop sets (Icom R-75, Palstar R30) in the SAME PRICE RANGE as the E1. Furthermore, the E1 will not have the benefit of the Grundig name. If I worked for Eton, this is what I'd be worried about...well, aside from whatever mechanical defects might emerge in the first production run. (I'm extremely curious to find out what the build quality is like on the E1. I hope it's built like a tank, but I can't help but worry.) |
It isn't the XM capability that is running the price up.
Cost of the XM chip to Eton is well under $1. |
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David wrote: If this is the SW8 legacy from Drake it will run circles around the Icom and the Palstar for SWL. I hope it will also run rings around that Satellite 800. |
wrote in message oups.com... David wrote: If this is the SW8 legacy from Drake it will run circles around the Icom and the Palstar for SWL. I hope it will also run rings around that Satellite 800. Unless Drake updated their circuit design from the SW8/Sat 800 version, probably not. --Mike L. |
ML,
.. HERE IS WHY I THINK THE "ETON E1 RECEIVER WITH XM SATELLITE RADIO WILL BE A BETTER 'BASIC' PRODUCT THAN THE DRAKE SW8 AND GRUNDIG SATELLIT 800 MILLENNIUM RADIO/RECEIVERS : {What I Think and Why} .. Since RL Drake Co. (including Grundig/Eton/Tecsun) have a History of "Lesions Learned" for the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium and the Drake SW8 Radio/Receivers. It would be in RL Drakes and the others collective "Best Interests" to make any and all small Fixes that would Reduce Customer Complaints and Improve Initial Customer Satisfaction with their new Radios. Each Dollar spend doing so usually results in about a Seven Dollar Saving in Repair Maintenance Costs 'after' the Sale of the Product {Radio/Receiver} . .. If you had read all the little 'low cost' FIXES that Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Owners have Reported about in the Grundig Satellit 800 eGroup on YAHOO! You would know that there are many minor 'parts' improvements that could make the new Eton E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio a "Better" Product {Radio/Receiver} for the Radio Enthusiast. .. NOTE : This is a Product {Radio/Receiver} that is Up-Scale-Priced and "Targeted" for the RADIO ENTHUSIAST : Or to be Given as what is usually called an "Executive Gift" . [Money & Image] .. I Will Repeat Myself: [ IMHO ] In order to put the 'basic' Electronics of the Drake SW8 / Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium into a much 'smaller' [Box] as that which is the "Size" of the new Eton E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio: The Design Engineers at RL Drake Co. (USA) and the Manufacturing Process and Testing Engineers at Tecsun GEM China (PRC); would have to BUILD THE RADIO BETTER; or offer an inferior product to the SW8 / GS800M. All the Companies concerned simply would NOT DO THIS with what will be Their PREMIER "Flag Ship" Product {Radio/Receiver} .. .. and that's what i think ~ RHF .. All are WELCOME and "Invited-to-Join" the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ The Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Radio with XM Satellite Receiver .. |
RHF: I hope you're right!! However, I'm not going to spend $500 to
become one of the E1's beta testers. Down the road, maybe.... Will Drake be servicing defective E1's and will they be selling the E1 on the Drake website, as they're doing with the Satellit 800? Steve |
For One and All,
WHY - The Eton E1 AM & FM Shortwave Receiver with XM Satellite Radio Does NOT have "DRM" Digital Radio Mondiale reception feature. READ : DRM - Do the Right Marketing ! [ DRM - What Went Wrong in the USofA ] Why Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) needs a Brand Name - Commentary by Andy Sennitt, 13 January 2005 RNW = http://tinyurl.com/4cona http://www2.rnw.nl/rnw/en/features/m...drm050113.html "Eton Corporation, the company that brought Grundig radios into the US, showed the Eton 'Elite' E1 XM portable Receiver. It combines AM, FM, Shortwave Receiver, and XM Satellite Radio into one ultra high-performance unit, which - although portable - is sized at 13.1 by 7.1 by 2.3 inches and weighs 4 pounds." .. OBSERVATIONS ABOUT - The 2005 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES), the world's largest consumer electronics event, ended a week ago in Las Vegas. .. Unfortunately, due to the decision of the US to adopt iBiquity Digital's HD Radio instead of DRM as the standard for digital AM, a major opportunity to promote Digital Shortwave Broadcasting in the US market has been lost. .. But the Shortwave receivers in these new devices are only for AM, because the digital system chosen for use in the US - iBiquity Digital's HD Radio - is aimed at the AM (Medium Wave) and FM bands. So even if a digital AM receiving capability is added to these sets in the future, it's not likely to benefit Shortwave Broadcasters. .. Also at the CES, 21 of the top radio broadcast groups in the US announced an historic agreement with iBiquity Digital to accelerate the conversion of 2,000 AM and FM stations to HD Radio Technology. .. So it looks as if the US domestic market is firmly shut to DRM, despite its status as a world standard endorsed by the International Telecommunication Union. .. Unless this marketing issue is addressed, only a subset of existing Shortwave listeners are likely to be interested in DRM. Consequently sales of DRM-capable receivers - when they eventually appear in significant numbers - will be low, and the momentum will be lost. .. The majority of consumers will not even be aware that there's a digital AM Broadcasting System out there, especially as they need to buy a new receiver before they can hear it. .. And since the total number of hours aired by the International Broadcasters continues to fall, the selling of the medium in terms of listener choice becomes harder and harder day by day. .. DRM needs a brand name, preferably one that works in a number of major languages, that will explain what the technology is for, and cannot be confused with something else. .. As we're less than a year away from the release of the first 'portable' DRM Receivers in significant quantities, I hope attention now turns to how the technology is going to be sold to the consumer, especially in the US. A lot of time and effort has been spent getting to this point, but it could all be rendered ineffectual by poor marketing. .. |
For One and All,
The "DAILY WATCH" Webpages for Price and Availability of the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio .. * Universal-Radio.Com product webpage for the new Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html NOTE - Still States : Expected February 2005 and there is No Price Listed as of : SUNDAY / 9 JAN 2005 * * * UPDATE for UNIVERSAL-RADIO.COM SUNDAY / 16 JAN 2005 = NO CHANGE [.] .. .. ETON Corp.Com product webpage for the new Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg NOTE - No Price is Listed as of : SUNDAY / 9 JAN 2005 * * * UPDATE for ETON CORP SUNDAY / 16 JAN 2005 = NO CHANGE [.] .. .. wishing, hoping and waiting ~ RHF .. . .. . All are WELCOME "Invited-to-Join" the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ The Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio .. . . . |
For One and All,
.. The "DAILY WATCH" Webpages for Price and Availability of the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio .. SUNDAY / 23 JAN 2005 = RELEASE DATE CHANGED UPDATE for UNIVERSAL-RADIO.COM http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html The MONTH has CHANGED from FEBRUARY to MARCH NOTE - Now reads : Expected March 2005 and there is No Price Listed as of : SUNDAY / 23 JAN 2005 .. SUNDAY / 23 JAN 2005 = NO CHANGE [.] UPDATE for ETON CORP. E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg * NO PRICE HAS BEEN POSTED. * NO RELEASE DATE IS GIVEN. .. wishing, Hoping. and WAITING ! ~ RHF .. All are WELCOME and "Invited to Join" the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ Where the Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio. |
FO&A,
.. SUNDAY / 23 JAN 2005 = RELEASE DATE CHANGED UPDATE for UNIVERSAL-RADIO.COM http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html The MONTH has CHANGED from FEBRUARY to MARCH NOTE - Now reads : Expected March 2005 and there is No Price Listed as of : SUNDAY / 23 JAN 2005 .. SUNDAY / 23 JAN 2005 = NO CHANGE [.] UPDATE for ETON CORP. E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg * NO PRICE HAS BEEN POSTED. * NO RELEASE DATE IS GIVEN. .. wishing, Hoping. and WAITING ! ~ RHF .. All are WELCOME and "Invited to Join" the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ Where the Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio. |
FO&A,
.. SUNDAY / 23 JAN 2005 = RELEASE DATE CHANGED UPDATE for UNIVERSAL-RADIO.COM http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html The MONTH has CHANGED from FEBRUARY to MARCH NOTE - Now reads : Expected March 2005 and there is No Price Listed as of : SUNDAY / 23 JAN 2005 .. SUNDAY / 23 JAN 2005 = NO CHANGE [.] UPDATE for ETON CORP. E1 XM = http://tinyurl.com/6numg * NO PRICE HAS BEEN POSTED. * NO RELEASE DATE IS GIVEN. .. wishing, Hoping. and WAITING ! ~ RHF .. All are WELCOME and "Invited to Join" the ETON 'Elite' E1 XM Radio eGroup on YAHOO ! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/ Where the Topic is the Eton 'Elite' E1 Receiver with XM Satellite Radio. |
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